Every time he felt that chain after adjustment it moved less than an inch. One big move of the swing-arm and snap! Done it myself. Loose is better than tight.
Nice video - but, it's good to mention that some bikes will tighten the chain when the axle is tightened (mine does quite a bit). Always check when you've tightened everything. You can make sure the axle is tight forward against the stops (before you torque it down) by putting an object (like a screw driver) into the sprocket and rolling the wheel forward to pull it into the sprocket to tighten the chain and pull the rear tire forward. Also - some bikes (mine does a bit) the chain will tighten a bit when it's taken off the center stands and the suspension travels under the weight of the bike/rider. ALSO - Some bikes (my 2003 SV-1000s is like this) have hash marks on the swingarm that are NOT correct. I've verified the variance through several methods and two shops. They were both surprised by their findings. Perhaps just worth a mention in the video/annotation while you're tightening the chain. Thanks for the video!
All good points, Brandon! As you can see from the video, ours tightened a bit when we cranked down the axle nut. Looking back, it would have been a good comment to throw in there. Thanks for watching and giving some input!
Thanks.....just saw the put the nut on wrong that reads the wear on my chain. I'll be putting it back the way it ps supposed to go. Got all my tools just need that 30 min of free time to do it, it know it won't take that long but I wanna go slow and do it right. Awesome vid thanks.
Step 1: Read owner's manual Step 2: Follow directions All bikes are different, and have different postures the bike must be in when measuring slack. Page 112 of the 2008 Honda CBR600RR manual says to check the slack while it sits on its side stand...
Glad we could help, Brandon! If only we could make a video explaining step by step how to have patience when putting your machine back together... bet there are a few mechanics out there that could use that video. Thanks for watching!
Wrong! He compensated for that by measuring 1inch and 3/8ths. Considering the recommended measurement is 1inch. So to measure an extra 3/8ths, takes care of that. So you and the 21 idiots who liked your comment should probably go back to school and brush up on your math.
@@grownman1017 It will probably be alright but is a good idea to have the rider sit on it and then check it. It may need more or less in either direction. Why have extra slop in the chain if you don't need it
Chains tighten when a load is added to the seat. Does that play adjustment compensate for the suspension pressure which will tighten the chain? should it be adjusted with the rider sitting on it? Much discussion about this topic, and MANY opinions. Thanks
Question please. The chain looks tight, I'm sure it will be very tight and have no free slack after you sit on bike. It looks it will damage itself. Please reply. I got similar problem on FZ-09, the chain slack per the manual is only 0.20-0.59 in. But if I seat on it after required adjustment it will be very tight, even makes noise when rolling.
The 2008 600rr service manual and it says to put it on its side stand. Having the bike on a paddock stand is the same as having it on a side stand because the swingarm is taking all of the weight , as it would if it was on the ground.
So informative. Your awesome mechanical man.i ride my 2003 YZF yamaha up and up state ny .I think it's cheaper doing your self .but gotta be precise. So I'm learning. Thanks for the video. God bless.
Regarding the wheel sliding back when you tighten the nut, doesn't that apply to wheels with their nuts on the left side? (GSX-R600 and 750) because when you tighten the nut, you are trying to "roll" the axle to the back. But in this Honda, it's on the right so when you're tightening the nut, you're rolling the axle to the front. Isn't that whats going one? In any case, I think wedding a screw driver is the best practice!
where are you measuring the 30mm from? are you measuring from chain centre bottom to chain centre top or bottom of chain to top of chain (outside) or top of chain to bottom of chain (inside)
Perfect I see a lot of negative comments there either wanna know it alls or just thrive to tell you how to do your job but in a realistic world if there so smart why are the watching your videos then try and tell you want your doing wrong maybe they should post videos too
why do some people have someone sitting on bike when adjusting chain.And does the chain get tighter when torquing the bolt or does the little 10 and 12mm keep that from happening? thank you for your time.
On one side of my bike, the adjustment bolt isn't pressed up against the block. It's hovering and I'm suspecting that the rear axle nut is overtightened, keeping that block in place, not relying on the actual adjustment bolt. I'm not sure how to proceed
I do my chain on my Honda VTR1000f with the bike on the sidestand to have at least some load on it. My first chain years ago when I was first learning - it came out far too tight when I had made adjustments with the wheel off the ground [using the lift.].
Use newspapers or cardboards to put behind the chain to cover the tire and frame before spraying. Saves you time cleaning up! You sprayed on the sprocket too close to the axle, some of that cleaner is gonna get inside the axle and degrease it! Not a smart idea. There's no need to hose it with water, just wipe it with clean old rag or towel.
Superb sir, I have one issue on my bike, i have honda hornet 160R, my bike chain tightning after chain adjustment after few km driven,,, after adjustment when i driven bike few kms bike chain getting tight,, and i checked axle nut also,, all are tight only... but am facing this issue... please help me and please reply what is the reason and solution for that
We don't have any experience with that bike specifically. Normally, a chain will loosen with use rather than tighten up. Best guess, double check all your adjustments and locknuts. If everything looks good, but it still tightens the chain when riding, it may be worth taking to a shop for a quick inspection.
I have been obsessed with motorcycles my whole life but im 27 and I have yet to ride one which is a big problem because I feel until I ride one I wont know what I want to do with my life but I think I would want to repair bike and etc., once I finally ride one can you give me any advice?
Hi Robert! Well, you've got one thing right -- motorcycle riding is very addictive. If you feel like you need to get on a motorcycle, no better time than the present! As long as you're safe about it, what do you have to lose? Some good basic advice for your first ride: 1) TAKE A RIDER COURSE: As much as your cool guy motorcycle friends will try to tell you to skip the MSF new rider course, if you really have never been on a bike educating yourself on how to ride is the best place to start. It's not always intuitive and you put yourself and others in danger when you hop on a bike before you're ready. 2) PICK THE RIGHT BIKE: Don't bite off more than you can chew bike-wise. I'm talking both rpm and weight wise. You need to be able to hold the bike up when you come to a complete stop; you also don't want to find yourself with a fist full of throttle you're not ready for... Start with something moderate in the 200cc range. A Kawasaki Ninja, for example. 3) CHECK OUT THE BIKE BEFORE YOU GET ON: It's always a good idea to check the chain tension, the brakes, and the tire pressure before you get on. I'm not talking take the bike apart, just a visual inspection, a kick, and a tug will tell you if it's safe or not. Don't know -- ask a friend. Or find out what you need to know on TH-cam. ;) Happy riding!! We wish you hours of motorcycle obsession.
I appreciate it very much I have did so much research I know the basic down to a teeth all I need is a start I want to buy a dirt bike or sport quad because I live in new Orleans and the bike life here is the life right now thanks.
+Robert Weston Don't think, just go and try it! You can always give up ridding, or change bike for quad or UTV or 4x4 truck if you want same adventure but be safer. But start with NOT powerful bike and buy proper protective gear. I started when I was 29. My uncle bought Chinese 150cc. I rode it, liked it bought the same. Then kept upgrading each year.
Depends on the unit. There are some that have a center notch on the plate and others just use the outside edge. It varies. Your owners manual should give you the proper notation.
Not very, they are more of a guide than a precise measurement, I have a laser tool that allows me to check that the wheel is 100% straight, definitely advise investing in one, they are relatively inexpensive and allow you to adjust with total accuracy.
Thanks for the informative video - fyi it looks like the nut on this motorcycle is reversed from the stock installation, and as a result the method to check the chain's life might be slightly wrong here. Refer to p. 156 of the honda owner's manual (owners.honda.com/assets/ownerlink/model/own_man/powersports/motorcycle/2009/09_cbr600rr_a.pdf) to find the correct point of reference to refer to when measuring the chain's remaining life.
Is it normal for a bike chain to constantly be stretching...I mean on my bike I'm having to retighten it all the time and I feel like I shouldn't be, I make sure it's in alighnment. I've gone through two chains this year and I don't ride aggressively, I ride to work and just for fun, so I wouldn't mind some advice and pointers in the right direction.
Again I keep it aligned accurately with both the adjustment plates and a laser tool, but my chain always ends up getting more loose, according to my knowledge, I'm getting the best recommended heavy duty chain and sprocket sets, is it bad parts or could this be something more complex causing it?
How do you know which mark on the swing arm tells you the chain is shot? I have a Kawasaki and I assume there's a mark on the swing arm but the service manual doesn't say anything about it.
What year model do you have? There are typically hash marks to align your wheel. Once you get towards the end of your adjustment capabilities, it's time to swap out the chain and dial it all back in.
Hi, thanks for the video. The measurement that you are doing is like 1.38 of inches from the bottom of the swing arm or is it ot the distance between the points when the chain is fully pushed up and fully pushed down??
I don't have a paddock stand and my bike doesn't have a centre stand , can I adjust my chain while it's on its kickstand? (CBR300R doesn't have spools)
It's not advised. You want the bike to be upright if you are adjusting the axle in any way. You could always have a friend hold it up while you do the work in a pinch. We have found that providing cold beverages makes them more willing to help. When you're able, pick up a swingarm stand, they aren't too expensive and it will be a lot easier.
just curious why you don't use something like a laser alignment tool. I purchased one from Germany and it seems to work pretty good. My measurement stamps on the swingarm do not align up 100%
I honestly think the guide marks are useless. I take a tape measure from swingarm cut out, for the chain adjuster, and measure horizontally to the beginning of the axle. So much easier and quicker to check the distance matches on both sides.
and then is the chain tensioned correctly when someone is sat on the bike,ive adjusted both ways,with bike on a paddock stand and also on the sidestand,and recheck with someone sat on the bike,my owners manual suggests doing it on sidestand?
You can get it done without a rear stand. The only problem is, you need the bike to be upright, not on the kickstand. You can hire a buddy hold the bike up while you do it...We have found that cold beverages are pretty good payment.
If you are interested in eventually snapping your chain and having it destroy the back end of your bike and possibly your leg or back. That thing will turn into a weapon pretty quick. Once the chain is stretched out that far, just replace it. It will save you money and personal injury in the long run.
There should be a mark on the axle spacer that points to the sticker. After you adjust your chain, if that mark is pointing to the red or "replace" area of the sticker, it means your chain is stretched out and needs to be replaced with a new one.
I replaced my chain with a brand new chain and sprocket kit and the tick marks are equal on both sides.BUT my chain is on the loose side and the reading is not marking on the “new chain” or blue mark. It’s reading near the “replace chain” mark. WHY? It’s a brand new kit. Please help.
I would say you can, never heard anything bad about it. I'll do it tomorrow with my O-ring chain if I manage to get some. Gas stations don't have it here, I'll try at the paint shops.
+Partzilla Question. I got a brand new gsxr and looking at the swing arm notch marks I'm setting at 5 on one side and 6 on the other. This being a brand new bike these notch number should pretty much match, right?
You should not spray chain lube like that. You need to he more careful so it doesnt get on your back tire. Otherwise you can easily loose traction and get in an accident.
You make some great videos, but this was done wrong. For starters you want to clean the chain first as it will loosen after it’s clean. Second, when you move the bottom section of the chain to check how much freeplay, you only want to push the chain on the bottom until the top part of the chain on top of the swing arm just barely begins to rise. You take the measurement from that point for free play. If you push too hard you get a false reading and your chain ends up too tight.
If you watch it closely, it was a verbal correction. Both sides were adjusted to the 6th mark. That being said, if we get something wrong, by all means, leave a comment. Not saying we won't make an occasional mistake, but we have a pretty good track record. :D
Hello, I have 2 questions. #1 Are the cleaners and the chain wax harmful to the rubber of the tire? Should I be protecting that rear tire? Right now I clean and lube like you did on the video. #2 on the 2009 CBR600RR OM - owners.honda.com/assets/ownerlink/model/own_man/powersports/motorcycle/2009/09_cbr600rr_a.pdf Page 156 it states Check the chain wear label when adjusting the chain. If the front edge of the chain adjustment plate ( 1 ) enters the red zone (2) on the label after the chain has been adjusted to the proper slack, the chain is excessively worn and must be replaced. I noticed you are using a the center as a guide. Did it change that much from 2008 to 2009? Thanks
The cleaners and wax are not harmful to the tires. That being said, you don't want to get a ton of it on the tires simply for traction purposes. Some of them have a center mark and some models use the edge of the plate. If there is no notch on the plate, then it's the front edge.
Why would you want to stretch a 250? I'm not being mean or nasty im honestly asking? You stretch your bike to fight your front wheel coming up involuntary, thats not happening with a 250.
If you are working solo, you should have at least a swingarm stand. If you have a loyal buddy that can hold your bike up while you do it, that works too.
my bike was out side and not in use for about 3 weeks and the chain was rusted up relay bad. so i got all the rust off it with a wire brush and lubed it. But some of the o rings are a bit zig-zaged, and i rode it around the drive and it was clicking and it got relay slack (and it was a new chain) do i need to buy a new one?
When you go to clean it next time you will want to use a grunge brush. the wires are not made out of metal so it damage the o-rings. Here is what i use, it works very well www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/aftermarket/XP-4123256.html
waasy to tight. rider weight sits on THAT chain its GOING to cause pre WEAR on sprockets. also those points on swing arm are JUST reference TAKE a simple tape measure measure from swing arm pivot axle and middle of rear axel. get measurement take to other side and compare tape. just from experience i found those marks can be not exact 10 mm off one side is a lot if you take how far its off ftom THE front wheel
Every time he felt that chain after adjustment it moved less than an inch. One big move of the swing-arm and snap! Done it myself. Loose is better than tight.
Yep, same goes for belt drives. Seen lots on the dealers floor with belts sooo tight strung like piano strings.
This dude's the real deal and not just pulling our chain. Sorry, that just came out. No pun intended :) lol
Nice video - but, it's good to mention that some bikes will tighten the chain when the axle is tightened (mine does quite a bit). Always check when you've tightened everything.
You can make sure the axle is tight forward against the stops (before you torque it down) by putting an object (like a screw driver) into the sprocket and rolling the wheel forward to pull it into the sprocket to tighten the chain and pull the rear tire forward.
Also - some bikes (mine does a bit) the chain will tighten a bit when it's taken off the center stands and the suspension travels under the weight of the bike/rider.
ALSO - Some bikes (my 2003 SV-1000s is like this) have hash marks on the swingarm that are NOT correct. I've verified the variance through several methods and two shops. They were both surprised by their findings.
Perhaps just worth a mention in the video/annotation while you're tightening the chain. Thanks for the video!
All good points, Brandon! As you can see from the video, ours tightened a bit when we cranked down the axle nut. Looking back, it would have been a good comment to throw in there. Thanks for watching and giving some input!
Glad to add input! You guys have a good setup there - well done!
very first thing i always do is find the tight spot and adjust from there!
Thanks.....just saw the put the nut on wrong that reads the wear on my chain. I'll be putting it back the way it ps supposed to go. Got all my tools just need that 30 min of free time to do it, it know it won't take that long but I wanna go slow and do it right. Awesome vid thanks.
every one is an expert in the comments, Thanks for the video, its given me a rough idea of what i am dealing with.
You don't need to be an expert to see that is way overtight.
Step 1: Read owner's manual
Step 2: Follow directions
All bikes are different, and have different postures the bike must be in when measuring slack.
Page 112 of the 2008 Honda CBR600RR manual says to check the slack while it sits on its side stand...
Thank you!!! I get excited when I learn how to work on my motorcycle... thanks for the video! 😁
Our pleasure, Jorge! Thanks for watching.
Same bro did a chain adjustment changed all my breaks by myself
Thanks you I know how to adjust my chain now properly with patience. thank you for being very informative in this video tutorial.
Glad we could help, Brandon! If only we could make a video explaining step by step how to have patience when putting your machine back together... bet there are a few mechanics out there that could use that video. Thanks for watching!
Should check chain with suspension compressed after adjustment chain will tighten a little when you take bike off pit stand.
too tight ! Check proper adjustment with the pilot sitting on the bike !
Yeah it will be like a steel bar after sitting on it
Wrong! He compensated for that by measuring 1inch and 3/8ths. Considering the recommended measurement is 1inch. So to measure an extra 3/8ths, takes care of that. So you and the 21 idiots who liked your comment should probably go back to school and brush up on your math.
@@grownman1017 It will probably be alright but is a good idea to have the rider sit on it and then check it. It may need more or less in either direction. Why have extra slop in the chain if you don't need it
Nope that looks perfect.
Lol why would the manual tell you 1 3/8 🤣
Thank you sir and Partzilla! You've been my great help with the RR.
The best chain adjusting video yet thank you sir
Thanks, John! Glad we could help.
What is he lining up with the measurement markings? I didn't get that. Is it the centerline of the lug nut?
Chains tighten when a load is added to the seat. Does that play adjustment compensate for the suspension pressure which will tighten the chain? should it be adjusted with the rider sitting on it? Much discussion about this topic, and MANY opinions. Thanks
Yeah. He did it wrong. At the very least he should check it on the side stand not in the air.
thank you, i learn what is the correct distance and when to replace it.
Question please. The chain looks tight, I'm sure it will be very tight and have no free slack after you sit on bike. It looks it will damage itself. Please reply. I got similar problem on FZ-09, the chain slack per the manual is only 0.20-0.59 in. But if I seat on it after required adjustment it will be very tight, even makes noise when rolling.
Honda recomemds that the wheel is on the ground when you measure slack.
The weight of the bike is still on the swing arm. It would be in the same spot if the wheel was touching the ground
It would not be the same.. than most of the weight is on the stand..and the slack is around 5mm more
Source??
The 2008 600rr service manual and it says to put it on its side stand. Having the bike on a paddock stand is the same as having it on a side stand because the swingarm is taking all of the weight , as it would if it was on the ground.
Your intention is good, but the bike weight on the spool is the same as if the tire was on the ground.
I like this guy very helpful or at least I understand him quite well
Thanks, Xaviie! Happy we could help you get it done!
Great video! Thank you for making it so simple. Very good directions. Much appreciated 👊😁
So informative. Your awesome mechanical man.i ride my 2003 YZF yamaha up and up state ny .I think it's cheaper doing your self .but gotta be precise. So I'm learning. Thanks for the video. God bless.
is it an inch 3/4 from he top of the swing arm to the middle of the bottom chain
Regarding the wheel sliding back when you tighten the nut, doesn't that apply to wheels with their nuts on the left side? (GSX-R600 and 750) because when you tighten the nut, you are trying to "roll" the axle to the back. But in this Honda, it's on the right so when you're tightening the nut, you're rolling the axle to the front. Isn't that whats going one?
In any case, I think wedding a screw driver is the best practice!
where are you measuring the 30mm from?
are you measuring from chain centre bottom to chain centre top
or
bottom of chain to top of chain (outside)
or
top of chain to bottom of chain (inside)
Perfect I see a lot of negative comments there either wanna know it alls or just thrive to tell you how to do your job but in a realistic world if there so smart why are the watching your videos then try and tell you want your doing wrong maybe they should post videos too
They're either. They're so smart. You're doing wrong.
I'm not a motorcycle know-it-all, but I'm a spelling professor compared to you. 🏍
What a great video! I have a question: Is it necessary to measure the initial baseline tension that the chain has before adjusting it?
yes been waiting for a thorough Tutorial like this, thank you
Glad we could help, Nurg! Thanks for watching
why do some people have someone sitting on bike when adjusting chain.And does the chain get tighter when torquing the bolt or does the little 10 and 12mm keep that from happening? thank you for your time.
Hi, it is understandable , simple great video. Thanks
Glad it worked for you, Szudani! Thanks for watching
I have a question. Shouldn't the front plate be your guide for the window check?
Awesome video series 👍 Very helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the video. When using the sticker to gauge the chain life do you use the center of the axle to line up with the sticker?
0:45 I've always thought if chain touches swingarm, def too loose, or even comes close.
You cold do one video showing how to ajust the SAG (suspencion). Tks
We will add it to the list!
But, the video will be more cool on cbr600rr. kkkk Tks!
On one side of my bike, the adjustment bolt isn't pressed up against the block. It's hovering and I'm suspecting that the rear axle nut is overtightened, keeping that block in place, not relying on the actual adjustment bolt. I'm not sure how to proceed
I do my chain on my Honda VTR1000f with the bike on the sidestand to have at least some load on it. My first chain years ago when I was first learning - it came out far too tight when I had made adjustments with the wheel off the ground [using the lift.].
If it's on a rear stand, it still has some load on it. It's held up by the swingarm.
Kawasaki vulcan s's have an unusual way of adjusting the chain. Any chance you could do a video on one?
What is on the 5th mark? I know how is on the Kawasaki but I don't see what is your reference to the 5th mark? I guess middle of that round nut?
Don't chains usually have a tight spot that should be located first then adjust to spec?
Tight spots happen, but it's not a constant concern. Especially if you clean and lube your chain on a regular basis.
Especially not concerned when considered. Thanks!
this was one helpful video exactly what I was looking for
Use newspapers or cardboards to put behind the chain to cover the tire and frame before spraying. Saves you time cleaning up! You sprayed on the sprocket too close to the axle, some of that cleaner is gonna get inside the axle and degrease it! Not a smart idea. There's no need to hose it with water, just wipe it with clean old rag or towel.
I didnt loose the axle nut while tightening the chain. Is that wrong? I still managed to tighten it and both sides are the corect distance.
Manual says to measure slack when bike is on the side stand.
Do you have any videos on the PCX 150 ?
All I need is a bike stand and and tire chalk and then I can do this with little to no problem
Superb sir,
I have one issue on my bike, i have honda hornet 160R, my bike chain tightning after chain adjustment after few km driven,,, after adjustment when i driven bike few kms bike chain getting tight,, and i checked axle nut also,, all are tight only... but am facing this issue... please help me and please reply what is the reason and solution for that
We don't have any experience with that bike specifically. Normally, a chain will loosen with use rather than tighten up. Best guess, double check all your adjustments and locknuts. If everything looks good, but it still tightens the chain when riding, it may be worth taking to a shop for a quick inspection.
Step one: *wham 'go ahead and open er up" 1:50
scared me I wasn't ready for that
John's using his wrench karate skills. *KA POW!*
I have been obsessed with motorcycles my whole life but im 27 and I have yet to ride one which is a big problem because I feel until I ride one I wont know what I want to do with my life but I think I would want to repair bike and etc., once I finally ride one can you give me any advice?
Hi Robert! Well, you've got one thing right -- motorcycle riding is very addictive. If you feel like you need to get on a motorcycle, no better time than the present! As long as you're safe about it, what do you have to lose? Some good basic advice for your first ride: 1) TAKE A RIDER COURSE: As much as your cool guy motorcycle friends will try to tell you to skip the MSF new rider course, if you really have never been on a bike educating yourself on how to ride is the best place to start. It's not always intuitive and you put yourself and others in danger when you hop on a bike before you're ready. 2) PICK THE RIGHT BIKE: Don't bite off more than you can chew bike-wise. I'm talking both rpm and weight wise. You need to be able to hold the bike up when you come to a complete stop; you also don't want to find yourself with a fist full of throttle you're not ready for... Start with something moderate in the 200cc range. A Kawasaki Ninja, for example. 3) CHECK OUT THE BIKE BEFORE YOU GET ON: It's always a good idea to check the chain tension, the brakes, and the tire pressure before you get on. I'm not talking take the bike apart, just a visual inspection, a kick, and a tug will tell you if it's safe or not. Don't know -- ask a friend. Or find out what you need to know on TH-cam. ;)
Happy riding!! We wish you hours of motorcycle obsession.
I appreciate it very much I have did so much research I know the basic down to a teeth all I need is a start I want to buy a dirt bike or sport quad because I live in new Orleans and the bike life here is the life right now thanks.
+Robert Weston
Don't think, just go and try it! You can always give up ridding, or change bike for quad or UTV or 4x4 truck if you want same adventure but be safer. But start with NOT powerful bike and buy proper protective gear.
I started when I was 29. My uncle bought Chinese 150cc. I rode it, liked it bought the same. Then kept upgrading each year.
Great video ...thank you 👍🏍
good stuff, thanks for some wisdom. the only question i have is how often do you lube the chain ?
Hello Robin, I Lube mine about every 300 miles, then i will clean and lube every 600 miles.
does anyone knows the slack in mm? Can´t find it in the manual!
Its ok to hit the top especially if you pushing 200lb
Doesn't the Chain guide replacement indicator go on the outside left edge? Not the middle point.
Depends on the unit. There are some that have a center notch on the plate and others just use the outside edge. It varies. Your owners manual should give you the proper notation.
How accurate are the hash marks on swingarm when adjusting? Well i guess I could always measure the marks with tape measure.
Not very, they are more of a guide than a precise measurement, I have a laser tool that allows me to check that the wheel is 100% straight, definitely advise investing in one, they are relatively inexpensive and allow you to adjust with total accuracy.
Thanks for the informative video - fyi it looks like the nut on this motorcycle is reversed from the stock installation, and as a result the method to check the chain's life might be slightly wrong here. Refer to p. 156 of the honda owner's manual (owners.honda.com/assets/ownerlink/model/own_man/powersports/motorcycle/2009/09_cbr600rr_a.pdf) to find the correct point of reference to refer to when measuring the chain's remaining life.
Do u have to do anything with the brake caliber
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Haha! Right on, Louie. Couldn't have said it better myself.
Is the torque no. on the nut standard for all sportbikes?
Different manufacturers have different specs. They are all similar on the sportbikes.
Fantastic
Thanks SnewJ!
Sup snewj
Is it the same for the 2004?
do a 2008 honda cbr600rr valve adjustment ! :)
It's on the list! Thanks for tuning in.
Is it normal for a bike chain to constantly be stretching...I mean on my bike I'm having to retighten it all the time and I feel like I shouldn't be, I make sure it's in alighnment. I've gone through two chains this year and I don't ride aggressively, I ride to work and just for fun, so I wouldn't mind some advice and pointers in the right direction.
Again I keep it aligned accurately with both the adjustment plates and a laser tool, but my chain always ends up getting more loose, according to my knowledge, I'm getting the best recommended heavy duty chain and sprocket sets, is it bad parts or could this be something more complex causing it?
How do you know which mark on the swing arm tells you the chain is shot? I have a Kawasaki and I assume there's a mark on the swing arm but the service manual doesn't say anything about it.
What year model do you have? There are typically hash marks to align your wheel. Once you get towards the end of your adjustment capabilities, it's time to swap out the chain and dial it all back in.
Great vid!
Just 1 question.. When you measure the chain tension, do you measure to the top of link, middle, or bottom of it?
I generally measure to the rivets. As long as you're consistent and measure from the same place everytime, you should be fine.
Hi, thanks for the video. The measurement that you are doing is like 1.38 of inches from the bottom of the swing arm or is it ot the distance between the points when the chain is fully pushed up and fully pushed down??
it's the amount of slack in the chain, up and down.
Great informative video. Subbed!
Thanks -- and thanks for the sub, Dferd! Glad you're liking the videos!
Very nice tutorial sir 👍👍
Thanks for the video!!!
I don't have a paddock stand and my bike doesn't have a centre stand , can I adjust my chain while it's on its kickstand?
(CBR300R doesn't have spools)
It's not advised. You want the bike to be upright if you are adjusting the axle in any way. You could always have a friend hold it up while you do the work in a pinch. We have found that providing cold beverages makes them more willing to help. When you're able, pick up a swingarm stand, they aren't too expensive and it will be a lot easier.
just curious why you don't use something like a laser alignment tool. I purchased one from Germany and it seems to work pretty good. My measurement stamps on the swingarm do not align up 100%
can you link the tool?
www.amazon.com/Luster-Care-Laser-Alignment-Products/dp/B01LRJ6XQ2/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1475969552&sr=8-5&keywords=CAT+laser+alignment+tool
CAT laser alignment tool, they are made in Germany.
Sorry i wasn't sure which one was the mark so u know when to replace ur chain
On this bike, once you pass the green area, it's time to replace. Some bikes don't even have that, so once you run out of room to adjust, replace.
I honestly think the guide marks are useless. I take a tape measure from swingarm cut out, for the chain adjuster, and measure horizontally to the beginning of the axle. So much easier and quicker to check the distance matches on both sides.
i would have thought it would be best to do this on the side stand ?
You want to adjust with no pressure on the swingarm.
and then is the chain tensioned correctly when someone is sat on the bike,ive adjusted both ways,with bike on a paddock stand and also on the sidestand,and recheck with someone sat on the bike,my owners manual suggests doing it on sidestand?
can I accomplish adjusting the tension on the chain without the bike jack?
You can get it done without a rear stand. The only problem is, you need the bike to be upright, not on the kickstand. You can hire a buddy hold the bike up while you do it...We have found that cold beverages are pretty good payment.
Great video on how to adjust a chain!
Thanks DesertFZ1! Glad you liked it
Can the replacement be avoided if, one removed 1 connecting ring ???
If you are interested in eventually snapping your chain and having it destroy the back end of your bike and possibly your leg or back. That thing will turn into a weapon pretty quick. Once the chain is stretched out that far, just replace it. It will save you money and personal injury in the long run.
Partzilla Ahh, yes.. I too think thats a better option. Now if parts had no waiting... But it's best to wait. Thanks again for the prompt reply☺️
is it possible to adjust the chain without a wheel stand
To do it properly, you need the bike upright. So you can always have a friend hold it up while you adjust.
I dont understand the new/replace chain sticker thingy. how would i know if the chain needs replacing?? please help!!
There should be a mark on the axle spacer that points to the sticker. After you adjust your chain, if that mark is pointing to the red or "replace" area of the sticker, it means your chain is stretched out and needs to be replaced with a new one.
Partzilla Thanks!
What’s the technical name for the chain guid on top of the swing arm? I’m trying to find one for an 06 cbr 1000rr
You can find it here, your description could be one of three things.
www.partzilla.com/catalog/honda/motorcycle/2006/cbr1000rr-a/swingarm
I replaced my chain with a brand new chain and sprocket kit and the tick marks are equal on both sides.BUT my chain is on the loose side and the reading is not marking on the “new chain” or blue mark. It’s reading near the “replace chain” mark. WHY? It’s a brand new kit. Please help.
Confirm that the new chain has the proper amount of links as the OEM.
Hey John T, what Small Engine School do you recommend?
MMI is really the only good option I'm aware of.
Partzilla gotcha! Thanks brothaman, i appreciate it. Do you think having a shop that maintenances and fixes small engines in FL is a good business?
Lots of small engines in FL, with all the bikes, scooters, golf carts and marine engines! Follow your dreams, John!
Can i use Kerosene to clean the chain on my 2013 Honda CBR500R??
I would say you can, never heard anything bad about it. I'll do it tomorrow with my O-ring chain if I manage to get some. Gas stations don't have it here, I'll try at the paint shops.
Great info, Subbed
Thanks, Shooter! Glad we could help. And thanks for the sub!
+Partzilla Question. I got a brand new gsxr and looking at the swing arm notch marks I'm setting at 5 on one side and 6 on the other. This being a brand new bike these notch number should pretty much match, right?
They should match. You can measure from a fixed point on both sides to confirm they are accurate.
You should not spray chain lube like that. You need to he more careful so it doesnt get on your back tire. Otherwise you can easily loose traction and get in an accident.
Looked to tight to me .. rather little loose then screwed gearbox output shaft bearings
You make some great videos, but this was done wrong. For starters you want to clean the chain first as it will loosen after it’s clean. Second, when you move the bottom section of the chain to check how much freeplay, you only want to push the chain on the bottom until the top part of the chain on top of the swing arm just barely begins to rise. You take the measurement from that point for free play. If you push too hard you get a false reading and your chain ends up too tight.
thanks, john
3:20
"That's the 5th mark and this one.. needs to go to the 6th"
Lol, this is why I fear leaving my bike at dealerships or with anybody tbh
If you watch it closely, it was a verbal correction. Both sides were adjusted to the 6th mark. That being said, if we get something wrong, by all means, leave a comment. Not saying we won't make an occasional mistake, but we have a pretty good track record. :D
Hello, I have 2 questions. #1 Are the cleaners and the chain wax harmful to the rubber of the tire? Should I be protecting that rear tire? Right now I clean and lube like you did on the video. #2 on the 2009 CBR600RR OM - owners.honda.com/assets/ownerlink/model/own_man/powersports/motorcycle/2009/09_cbr600rr_a.pdf Page 156 it states Check the chain wear label when adjusting the chain. If the front edge of the chain adjustment plate ( 1 ) enters the red zone (2) on the label after the chain has been adjusted to the proper slack, the chain is excessively worn and must be replaced. I noticed you are using a the center as a guide. Did it change that much from 2008 to 2009? Thanks
The cleaners and wax are not harmful to the tires. That being said, you don't want to get a ton of it on the tires simply for traction purposes. Some of them have a center mark and some models use the edge of the plate. If there is no notch on the plate, then it's the front edge.
Partzilla thank you
how can i stretch my honda 2012 cbr 250
Why would you want to stretch a 250? I'm not being mean or nasty im honestly asking? You stretch your bike to fight your front wheel coming up involuntary, thats not happening with a 250.
do you need to have a bike lift to do this
If you are working solo, you should have at least a swingarm stand. If you have a loyal buddy that can hold your bike up while you do it, that works too.
how long will a o ring chain typically last?
15k to 20k miles. With normal everyday riding.
Thank you!
my bike was out side and not in use for about 3 weeks and the chain was rusted up relay bad. so i got all the rust off it with a wire brush and lubed it. But some of the o rings are a bit zig-zaged, and i rode it around the drive and it was clicking and it got relay slack (and it was a new chain) do i need to buy a new one?
If the o-rings are damaged, and the chain is clicking even after you cleaned and lubed it. i would say you need a need chain
dam..... thanks, had a nightmare of a day with the bike today.
No problem Big, sorry about the bad luck.
When you go to clean it next time you will want to use a grunge brush. the wires are not made out of metal so it damage the o-rings.
Here is what i use, it works very well
www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/aftermarket/XP-4123256.html
Great Video !
Thanks, Maldonado!
do chains get out of spec often?
Chains do stretch as you ride. Typically, unless you're racing around everywhere, you can get 15 to 20k out of a chain before it needs replacing.
THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
waasy to tight. rider weight sits on THAT chain its GOING to cause pre WEAR on sprockets. also those points on swing arm are JUST reference TAKE a simple tape measure measure from swing arm pivot axle and middle of rear axel. get measurement take to other side and compare tape. just from experience i found those marks can be not exact 10 mm off one side is a lot if you take how far its off ftom THE front wheel
thanks!