They were so conservative with Sparkle by giving her only 50% AA so as to not powercreep Bronya. But then released both siblings with broken kits, teamwide 100% AA and ST 100% including summon. Insane balancing
50% av is both a blessing and a curse, it can be better in certain cases so thats not an issue. Sparkle's issue is simply how simole her buffs are + atk buff gets better only in mono quantum
@@JMike-bq6rl yeah that's the thing. You need that much investment just for sparkle to give your carry 3 turn in first cycle while Sunday/bronya -1(>134 SPD) build allows the carry to have 4 turns in first cycle. Id even argue DDD is an even harder LC to get than signatures honestly
I saw people in chat say Sunday is not F2P friendly when they keep forgetting you have 10 cycles to clear MoC…. I haven’t pulled a single LC and I can clear MoC 12 Consistently…. It’s not in anyways fast clears but I still clear it
I pull only characters c0 and never touched LC banner. Still clear all endgame, but of course not always so easy, or fast, but still full stars. But I do understand, why people say about some characters are not f2p friendly, cause it is sucks when hoyo screw unit's kit just to sell the solution in their LC (like Yunli's LC having crazy agro bonus)
@@JohnDoe-si4eg I'm f2p but still pull Sig LC Seele,ratio,Fu xuan,Jing yuan and JQ Too bad Fu xuan LC is bad I mean it's not universal compared to other 4 LC
Who is better? Obviously sunday. He has everything u want in his kit. Sp positive, battery, 100℅ adv forward on both character &summon, both crit rate&crit dmg buff, buff that has the same duration mechanics as both ruan mei&robin. Not to mention he is also the one and only robin family. If u have robin u definitely have to pull for him. Otherwise how could u be so cruel to separate them when they can finally be reunite.
that last sentence … please dont get into fan fic Robin is top tier, but as far as the actual character she is my least favorite. I feel like she has me trapped in a f**king musical! I need an option to get her to at least sing something else, heck id even BUY an option to turn her volume off
@MakotoMajima30 well i get u. Hearing the same song for thousands of times can definitely get annoying. Wish mihoyo implement robin album song on her ultimate song. So that her ultimate song isn't so repetitive. Tho the moment when robin first introduced i can alrdy see this coming where her song will be like a curse. But anyway all said i am still advocating that as someone who has robin should definitely pull for sunday. Cuz it's so cruel to separate them after such a long while to finally have a chance to be reunite.
Sunday is better than the two others. Sparkle got powercrept pretty badly because Sunday gives more SP and bigger buffs. Bronya with one or two eidolons is not that far behind because unlike Sunday she can push Robin and is less reliant on signature.
More SP? I don't think so, at E0S0 he's neutral at best, even with Sign he generates nowhere near Sparkle's +7SP in the first cycle (technique + ult). One more thing is that his AV advance is 100%, meaning the Dps'd most likely consume more SP than they would have with Sparkle.
"Not far behind" Is an understatement. E2/E3 Bronya is Far behind E0S0 Sunday, And who is gonna push "Robin" with bronya? Lmao You like talking to 0.01% Playerbase from that statement
Hello! So to everyone including pokke that is asking "why does Sunday have 100% uptime on his ult?" It's because beatified's duration only ticks down at the START of his turn, hence why when you use the ultimate DURING your turn, your 1/4 towards you ulti while still having a 3 turn duration on his ultimate hence making him sp neutral This tactic is also used with sparkle ang ruan mei in their ultimate
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im kinda mad tbh version 2 didnt even end and a support character got powercrept this bad....how long till they powercreep robin and ruan mei? this is honestly very concerning and it very much demotivates me from playing because whats even the point? you spend all your resources building a unit and then boom they are no longer meta they cant clear MOC in good time all that resources and jades wasted I barely touch my jingliu and seelie anymore now sparkle despite being a support joins the group genshin truly could never hell ZZZ and wuwa probably would never either
@@Indian_gae_boii it's your fault for even caring about the META in a hoyoverse game in the first place. Any unit can clear the endgame easily. My f2p blade cleared moc within 3 cycles, 1 cycle less than my feixiao. Your sparkle, seele, and jingliu can certainly clear mic and apoc without a problem. So why does a slight powercreep bother you this badly?
7:00 if you ult on sunday's turn he is sp positive since the ult lasts one extra turn, first skill you don't get skill point, next turn you ult, then you get sp, get sp, get sp, then repeat
ult - 3t left, skill - 1/4 energy 2t left, 2/4 energy 1t left, 3/4 energy 0 - now skilling doesn't recover sp and you don't have max energy yet (needs 2 enemy hits or some other sources) how is this sp positive if you lose sp over time
@@sethl1475ulting on his turn means he essentially has 4 turns on ult. Thus, you can skill four time before the ult expires, then once it does just w8 until sunday's turn to use his ult again. This tech exists with rm ult too (ult on the start of her turn, you basically get three turn ult duration)
@@Wawawawawa750where did you pull 4 turns from? His ult duration goes down at the start of his turn so if you ult during his turn: Ult, 0 sp skill, 3 turns left 0 sp skill, 2 turns left 0 sp skill, 1 turn left Then on the fourth one his ult is out before he can use skill because the turn timer goes down at the start of his turn
@Foodiiee01 his buff duration ticks down at START of turn. Thus when you ult during his turn, it does not tick down until his next turn. So, technically it lasts 4 turns and this is important bcs Sunday has a 4 turn ult unless you. get hit without LC. This tech can be used for RM too, her ult last two turns but if you use it during her turn, its lasts 3 turns instead
@@Sable813 he retains his 4 turn rotation however you can now give your team 30% crit rate overall and give more cdmg, the sacrifice is not getting a 3 turn ult. You need his signature or s3 bronya lightcone anyways for that. Sparkle lightcone isn't that bad if you already have it. Just slap it on Sunday.
@@jmcMateo interesting! So if you're only pulling e0s0, since he won't get a 3 turn ult anyways just amp up his hypercarry buffing and go all in with Sparkles LC. You could essentially abandon crit rate on certain characters and go all out on crit dmg. Thinking about Hypercarry Ratio with e0s0 Sunday now, since Feixiao stole his team from him....
I mean sparkle really isn't dead, if you have her she is gonna do her job, its true that sunday is better but that doesn't mean she is bad, we are having this conversation for like 5th time, its simple, a really good harmony will never be bad no matter who comes out, they may be better but others are not bad, and honestly if you have sparkle and bronya and you dont want to partake in summon meta is there a need to summon for him, (or of course if you like him), especially because of the hell that's going to happen soon lord may save our souls 😭
Yeah I won't be tricked into pulling bronya #3. If I go from 2 cycling to 4 cycling or whatever I do not care. I will wait for the next TRULY broken character which you know we will get.
Yeah I think they really exaggerate Sparkle being dead. If you have her then she'll work just as fine (unless it's Jing Yuan). You can't even use Sunday to AA Robin for a fast ult at the start of the battle so it really doesn't matter for me. And I mainly use Firefly, Rappa, Yunli at the moment and they all don't need him to an extent (some argue Yunli for energy but who in their right mind would run speed on Yunli for a -1 Sunday??).
Sparkle is like their #1 favorite mascot, the character they've given the most mysterious lore, and the most foreshadowing. We literally know that she's been on Amphoreus, we still don't know what her powers are, how she put us to sleep, how she knew about Ena's dream before everyone, how she knew about Firefly and Robin's "deaths" to give Aventurine the clue, how she put you to sleep and sent you to Dreamflux Reef by herself without the use of "death", how she was the only one not to end up in Ena's dream in the first fake credits and "bad ending" while everyone else did... There's also a World's End Tavern on both Penacony and Amphoreus. And I'm _barely_ scratching the surface of everything she and Sampo have done, it's much, much deeper, but she does it all in the background to fool the player. When you do the math, Sparkle is _still_ better than Sunday at 1 team, giving a higher total dmg boost. That team is monoquantum with Qingque. Qingque boosts her own DMG% by an insane amount which is what Sparkle gives the least of, and what Sunday gives the most of, meaning Sunday gets diminishing returns and not Sparkle. And, since you _don't_ want double turns with Qingque because of her insane SP drain, hyperspeed is even better, and turns out Sparkle has more speed than Sunday on top of her better buff spread. Her light cone also gives more total stats and doesn't take 3 actions to give the full buff like Sunday's, Sunday trades slightly weaker buffs on the LC in exchange for the SP positivity, Sparkle is SP positive by default. How much are you willing to bet that Sparkle isn't gonna become better than Sunday the moment they release a Qingque 5 star powercreep that has an ult like Acheron/Feixiao/Firefly/Rappa and doesn't even need energy? Emanator of Elation Masked Sampo? Cipher? Castorice, maybe? It's _going_ to happen one day. Sparkle is worse now, not necessarily forever, the lack of ability to see what they're cooking up is insane.
@@BenBeckmane Sparkle feels pretty much custom made for Qingque. And sure it takes some QQ eidolons to get to a good level... But QQ is genuinely one of the most fun characters to play. And i feel that that should count for something
@@chimilicitypjm459 this is misleading. To ensure 3T ult rotation which can ensure his SP neutrality, you want at least E3 bronya Sig+err planar. If any less than that you need to rely on the rng of external energy sources.
@@izzme5204 this is NOT misleading. If you use Sunday’s ult in his own turn, you will get 100% uptime on his skill refund which makes him SP NEUTRAL. ult (his turn): 13.684 (target now beatified) skill: 58.468 (3 stacks beatified, doesn't tick down yet since it is done during his turn) skill: 103.252 (2 stacks beatified) skill: 148.036 (1 stack beatified) ult (his own turn again) - skill: repeat
@@izzme5204 3T ult rotation =/= being SP Negative. That’s not my point. He doesn’t do 3T ult at s0 BUT he has 100% uptime with his skill refund passive via the mechanic i said above^
They've actually updated this guide to include "Assumes you get hit once every 3 actions to get the missing energy" after Sunday's SP neutrality. So this does assume S0, though probably with Bronya Sig from the shop.
Sunday. Easy. Definitely Sunday. SP positive, instant action, damage buff to character with summon and energy regen. He is basically the entire package that arguably stands head and shoulders to Sparkle. Pair him with Robin for a Hypercarry team and that main can gonna go on a rampage.
@@krishnavjamdagni8076and it STILL pales in comparison to Sunday's buffs and action advance (not to mention he also cleanses on top), and at both e0s1 Sunday even wins in sp positivity. This INCLUDES quantum dps btw, Sunday has been tested to straight up be better even for QQ and Seele in a 3 qua team, there is literally no field Sparkle wins
19:52 uhh... no. It totally matches. An E0S1 Sunday comsumes 1 and generates 6 SP for a total of 5 SP generated in 9 turns (or roughly 700AV at 134 Spd); an E0S1 Sparkle in the same condition generates 6 SP (consumes 9 and generates 15 SP via 3 ults + technique). That didn't consider the fact that Sunday's DPS acts twice as fast instead of ×1.5 speed of Sparkle's. So E0S1 Sunday's SP economy matches Sparkle's at best, even when considering 0 cycling you won't ever see a Sunday recovering 7 SP in the first cycle like Sparkle does. Btw I wanna see you checking out Sparkle + Sunday's Sign, an absolute SP generating machine.
yeah, some people were only comparing Sparkle's Skill+Ult to Sunday's overall SP generation, when Sparkle has her Technique that gives her a head start and +2 sp cap to match the overload. in terms of SP alone, pretty sure E0S1 Sunday is only ever up to par with Sparkle, but not any better.
one thing that is not mentionned is that bronya S1 shorten her ult rotation, which does up her uptime. Oh and feixiao's follow up and ult are buffed by bronya if cast right after her action (same with everything happening before the start of another turn)
Just like his sister, Sunday gonna be in the meta for the whole X.0 version which is likely 8-10 months, and knowing hoyo he gonna have a fast rerun like robin to match the future meta
Mihoyo really did Sparkle dirty. I love her character, but there’s always this lingering feeling that I got baited into pulling for her. She has 50% AA, frontloaded SP generation, and diminishing returns on buffs-all of which are outclassed by Sunday. I sincerely hope they do her justice when we reach her home planet and give her a new form because, right now, she feels like half of what makes Sunday whole. I could understand if Sunday were just an SP-neutral support, but he outperforms Sparkle in every way: AA-ing summons, providing better ATK and crit buffs, more sp positive, and even offering energy regen. At this point, Sparkle feels like the first character to be truly powercrept, while other characters still have unique niches. RIP Sparkle, you were released too early.
How can Sunday be skill points positive when he spams his skill, and your main dpser has to use his Skill points to do damage? he action advance your main dpser. who has to use skill points to do DAMAGE. so where is the skill points regain?
@@valt4462 Can he achieve his Ultimate every activation? no then you are still in the 0 SP back cause you action advance the Main DPSER. who eats up 1 skill points. So in that turn your maindpser needs 2 skill points. and Sunday provide 0. cause his free skillpoints goes into his Skill.
@@drakehound2244 Okay let’s go through it. Every turn Sparkle has to use her skill. That’s -1 SP per turn but after 3 turns she gets her ult which lets you recover 4 SP. That’s means Sparkle recovers 1 SP per 3 turns. When you’re beautified (you will always be beautified after the first turn due to his trace), your SP is refunded on skill. So that is -0 sp per turn for the rest of the fight. If you have his lightcone, you get refunded a skill point every 2 casts of a single target buff. He gets his ultimate every 3 turns as well when you have his signature. That means in 3 turns, you will have used skill 3 times and ultimate 1 time. That means the light cone will give him 2 skill points while he never uses a skill point. That means Sunday recovers 2 skill points per 3 turns with his light cone. If you’re complaining that the DPS has more turns then just basic attack. No reason the DPS can’t basic every now and then since you get double the turns.
Idk man, ive seen some cooks back in the sus videos era showing Gallagher with quid go pro instead of huo huo and honestly, that I think solves all of the energy issues possible sp issues of the team, might not be as comfy but that's what I'll be mainly running
Well that's really depend on scenario, if it's just Sunday alone, everything hunky dory. But if it's all three slot empty, you better pray for good Rng.
I think one niche that Sparkle has is her comfort and ease of build for DPS. Hyperspeed variant is very comfortable in sp usage and dps don't have to worry about speed boots which are uncommon to get compare to atk/def/hp. I will say in order to be competitive, it revolves around using 168 spd with eagles + s5 DDD for that 3t in the first cycle which is her best build. Sunday and Bronya are better off with -1 spd due to their 100% action advance. Dps would need to use spd boots but they would get more turns off which equates to more energy for their ults. More ults adds more to their overall damage. Edit: Just want to also add: If I have to choose which to run Hyperspeed variant, it'll be Sparkle. Imo she's the best to fulfill that role. I prefer Sunday/Bronya to run their -1 spd variant to take full advantage of their action advance.
Sparkle is also just actually SP positive (0.33 SP is better than 0) whereas Sunday is SP neutral unless you pull his signature (or run Bronya's on him). She's still the GOAT for QQ, DHIL, and quantum DPS (which she buffs much better than Sunday can). Sadly, our only quantum DPS are not doing amazing unless you're E6 SW 😆
@@ladyhdwastaken If Sunday is e0s0, Sparkle would do better, yeah. Her signature is not worth going for anyway; just do s5 DDD variant to fulfill the pseudo 200 spd. But with Sunday's signature, which is his flaw because he really needs it, Sunday becomes better than her at that point. As Pokke said, "I wouldn't pull for Sunday if you can't go for his signature. " I agree.
@@ladyhdwastaken Yeah she is better at QQ. Qingque never got her powercreep yet. If you say "DHIL" is Qingque's powercreep then explain why his skill buffs crit dmg instead of DMG% like Qingque. DMG% is the thing that Sparkle lacks the most and crit dmg the thing she lacks the least so Qingque giving herself 152% DMG buff is extremely synergistic, gets diminishing returns on Sunday compared to Sparkle's wider variety of buffs... Also why is he Imaginary and not making use of her monoquantum trace? Her kit is not even being fully used. HSR NEVER makes premium options _not_ use the full kit of the allies. And, why does he rely on energy so heavily to get his ult and stacks up when there's no energy giver in monoquantum? The _real_ Qingque powercreep will have an ult like Acheron/Feixiao/Firefly/Rappa so that Sunday's energy regen doesn't matter, will prefer hyperspeed over double turns, will be quantum, and will buff their own DMG% massively through skill point consumption so that Sparkle's buffs are the best for that character. It's probably gonna be Masked Sampo, Cipher, or Castorice. It'll happen for sure, eventually. Sparkle is only "dead" for now until that character comes out
I am gonna skip 2.7 and 3.0 even though I have rappa, boothill, and acheron. All I want is an E2 of Castorice.(I may even skip castorice's support if their banner comes before my queen)
According to leaks the best character to pair her with is Mydei, who literally comes right before her so that has made me lose interest a little. Hopefully they dont absolutely need each other to be good
Yeah if someone asks "Do I pull Sparkle or Sunday" there's only one right answer for sure, it's 100% Sunday. After that it does get a bit trickier, and I'm glad Pokke went into the nitty gritty a bit. I'm skipping him for Fugue for the following reasons: My best DPS right now are Feixiao, Acheron, Firefly and Rappa. None of them are *particularly* interested in Sunday. Feixiao/Acheron technically can be, due to the 2 turn duration on skill buff and better SP economy, but we are getting a standard selector when the patch drops and that allows me to E6 my Bronya for that same effect. My Sparkle meanwhile is 168 speed on 4 pc Eagle with S5 DDD so she is basically in a different role at this point. 3 action forwards for your DPS in cycle 0 is diabolical, but also hella unrelatable. The average player should probably seriously consider getting him. Of course the elephant in the room is also summon meta, it could be completely unplayable without him for all we know. If that's the case then so be it. Not like my teams won't be able to clear if they're 1 cycling right now. Finally, I'm also kinda eyeing Sunday's LC for Bronya. It seems like a decent upgrade over her own as it refunds more skill points. The dmg% buff also appears to be permanent which helps the Broyna+Robin tech that I sometimes use on my Feixiao team.
Same here! E6 Bronya haver, I'll pull his lightcone for her but unless there's a summoner I *really* want, I'm hard skipping. I wouldn't assume Madame Herta is a summoner and she's who I'm saving for anyway. None of my DPS that I use really care for Sunday (also have E0S1 Sparkle)
@@source324 yeah well my 50/50 losses have been unreasonably lucky. I don’t even have Yanqing lol, and no eidolons on anyone else except randomly E2 Gepard. I get use out of him and his E1 on Acheron teams tho lol.
Alright i wanna give my thoughts about S1 for sunday. I feel like unless you are mad unlucky, if you run shared feeling s5 or quid pro quo s5 or huohuo (which you prolly would in hypercarry setup), and put him in the center of the team lineup next to the sustain, you should be able to consistently hit the 3 turn ult, especially if you dont waste those ult charges. So don't feel forced to pull his signature.
@@sethl1475 I wasn't clear enough but you should be able to do this with any sustain, like gallagher, or even lingsha with those light cones. Huohuo is comfort for when your carry doesn't use SP like clara, or jingliu. But I don't think his sig is required.
@@Sable813 his lightcone can be used on tingyun, sparkle and bronya. It's nuts. It makes them plus 1. Tingyun can fully utilize it since she's has a single target kit
I really dont know what sparkles niche is supposed to be anymore. At s1 sunday is giving as many skill points as sparkle. Unless they make like a dhil version of a support that takes more sp for more buffs, or make a dps that takes more skill points. I think this might be one of the most powercrept characters in the game alongside blade
I have Sparkle and I'm planning to pull for Sunday because I love his character. It kind of sucks gameplay wise that Sparkle is getting powercrept, but I do not regret pulling for her cause her trailer is absolute peak
The thing is this 2.7 patch is basically pull sunday level him up and his traces farm for a decent relic and bench him for the entire patch until a pretty much bonker remembrance DPS could utilize his full kit. Since Hoyo is known for selling characters They will definitely create a Summon DPS which can powercrept the existing break and Hypercarry Basically pull him now you have great investment that you don't need to pull him in his rerun. While fugue of the other side you can use her right away since she has the right DPSes which is also easy to build does not rely on insane 80/160 crit stat requirement. But They will become kinda outdated unless a new Break DPS could powercreep the existence of FF, Rappa, Boothill.
I have a cracked build for my E2 acheron with attack boots + 161 sparkle. Do i need to farm speed boots and get acheron to 135 and sunday to 134 or is 161 sunday good enough
You can play him 161 SPD, but then you're wasting the main thing that makes him better than Sparkle (100% action advance). At that point, I'm pretty sure Sparkle would pull ahead DPS-wise.
161 speed???? Even with speed boots that number is crazy high. If you don't sacrifice other stats, forget reaching such an amount. (Especially for casual players).
The thing with Sparkle is that her niche didn't really get the attention it needed for her to break out of the standard "Hypercarry" buffer. Even if Sunday gets powercrept in buffing power, he will still have that "summoning" niche. Bronya even while she was powercrept still had her 100% advance while being fairly accessible (now with the 5 star selector, completely accessible). As of now Psarkle's niche of skill point hungry characters are fairly outdated now, Qingque's buffs are simply not enough to make up for her being a 4 star (from 1.0 too) and DHIL's damage output is meh without his E2, but then again at that point if you want damage, just get Acheron or Feiziao or anyone E2. I'm sure that once we have good characters that use a ton of skill points then Sparkle might be able to geet off the bench, but for now, she can enjoy her time in HI3 for now.
😂Stop coping. She is the weakest 5 star harmony. No dps could save her if that dps also can be used with other harmony who already far ahead of her. Imagine only having 50% AA and new do g speed tuning lmao😂. So weak. Glad that both Sunday and Robin showing the value of 100% AA and saving hypercarry team fron the fraud of Sparkle. Remember that you cannot spell her name without L 😂😂😂
He sparkles better than the actual sparkle with his s1 and 2 sp per 3 turns instead of only 1 and has 100% AA with higher buff uptime He bronyas better than bronya since he also AAs the summons and his skill buffs last for 2 turns instead He tingyuns better than tingyun for also having a huge crit dmg buff on his ultimate alongside the energy with better uptime Unless they release a "1 to 1 SUNDAY BUT AOE" that i highly doubt they're gonna do especially since that'll take robins biggest advantage that is team wide AA
Of course they won't release 1 to 1, they'll powercreep the hell out of him eventually, considering how fast they released him after Sparkle, it's likely to be sooner than later.
Or the reverse when u see 3.x dps having 3+ bars of energy, i think there is a reason he only refund 20% energy but get a trace that gives 40 energy instead during the beta, i can see 300+ max energy coming in the future
@@The_CodFish69No. Remember MoC, APOC, and PF are about 2 teams. Why waste Sunday on Acheron when the dps on the other team would benefit more from Sunday.
@@TOTGodofWar like who? Currently only team's that benefit from him are Acheron, BH, DHIL and JY. And only 2 of the team's are universally good being BH and Acheron so what's your point exactly? Because BH can use Broyna fine also for your second team FUA and Break you know the best 2 teams RN don't use him so ya...
Even if I pull Sunday for the future (or in the future on rerun), my E2 Sparkle is my dedicated harmony for E2 Acheron. The ATK boots build is better on her than most, the advance is always fully forward, add the ATK and DEF shred eidolons on top of Jiaoqiu vulnerability and dmg (E1S1) and it just works. No DDD, S1 Sparkle with not much speed and high CDMG, Nuke Mode. With Fu Xuan I can run 42cr on Acheron and have 98% in battle. Robin can then always be with Feixiao, and Ruan Mei + Bronya for Boothill (or RM DoT). They all can have an ideal place IMO. Sunday buffing Boothill ult damage and being way more SP efficient while performing the same AA benefit would be very nice ofc, hard not to call him Bronya ProMax. I have zero summon characters, and fully intend to skip the first one of 3.x, But I doubt I'll ever truly skip a harmony on rerun if not the first time (I used to be Meidenless 😭, I fixed that).
okay but how about two of them together? i know there are sync and buff uptime issues with sparkle + sunday but waiting for the cook regardless for E2 DHIL
Sparkle was Hoyoverse's BS planning. Like, she was initially Hanya's promax but then added to her generic mono Quantumn trend that revolves around Silverwolf as a sub-dps and that killed her hard, that could've been something nice for hypercarry but s e r i o u s l y, generic teamwide buff for what reasons??? No rare stats unless E2, and even so takes time to stack???
I would say losing the 50/50 on Sparkle might not be so bad if I get Sunday, but I don't think there's enough cope in the world to justify being happy to get a Yanqing 💀
Does sunday's signature lightcone work on bronya? With bronya eidolons is there a team where she wants to be used and is better than Sunday? I quite like her character and happen to have an E-2. It would be a shame to not be able to use her
Cause most of HSR players are useless they don't explore or even test a character, half of them are hired trolls who don't even play the game or know anything about game mechanics. and just troll any bad post with meme. some of the youtubers are so stupid, yelling META and other stuff, without even understand what META is.
have you seen clara singlehandedly destroy MOC and PF, or himeko for AS, PF, herta in PF? all those are 1.0 characters and they are still top tier even to this day. Clara unique mechanic has only been rival by 1 character: yunli and not many people pulled her either.
@@Void_Everfrost Heck Herta 4 star is gigantic meta, beats out tons of 5 star. cause she can even do damage against none ICE weakness enemies. her follow up has no activation limite, same story for himeko. Clara I haven't pulled yet, so I cannot give my comment, I need to pull the characters test them Equip them trace them and relic them. and let say this RELICS passive 2 set and 4 set bonus, makes a huge difference cause they can make or break a character aside from Light cone combinations.
@@bjornnilsson2941 wow, i somehow miss that. One less reason for me to stick with Bronya. Also congratz with E6 Bronya next week. It's up to 2 years for me it seems, lol.
Just watched the end, im guranteed for one 2.7 character and I alr have jinng and firefly, and was saving for sunday, but I have E2S1 Bronya and E0S0 Sparkle, should I just get fugue?
Run both. I normally run Sparkle + Bronya + DHIL, but even with an E6 Sparkle I start to run out of SP by the end of a cycle. Sparkle + Sunday will be totally OP for all hypercarries.
You can run both. Both need to be at hyperspeed with Sparkle being 1 spd faster than Sunday. If you have to choose one, Sunday is better assuming you have his sig.
@@rafaelrose14My E6S5 Sparkle gives +217% CD from her skill, and 56% CD from her lightcone to everyone in the team. Giving a 273% CD buff to Sunday... who then gives a percentage of his crit damage as a buff to the hypercarry will be absolutely broken. Sunday/Robin won't be anywhere near as busted as Sunday/Sparkle.
don't matter, Hoyo's gonna release a new support that have 60% def ignore, 100% def down, gives 5k ATK one patch later before players are able to complete Sunday's build and they are forced to pull for that unit
People put way too much value into crit. Crit is easy to build for. We can even pick substats soon! You can’t build for things like res pen, def ignore, beyond a certain % of dmg boost, etc. E6 Bronya > Sunday for general buffing (dmg% is so much more valuable than crit.). E0 Sunday > Both for summoners E0 Sunday > Both for energy hungry units (Argenti for example) Sparkle > Both for SP Hungry DPS (DHIL, QQ) and Quantum DPS (SOON TM) Bronya + Sunday > Sparkle for action advance Bronya > both for action advancing Robin (and other harmony units) Bronya and Sunday together >>>> Also Sunday's LC = Bronya's LC pro max (I'm pulling it for my e6 bronya on HIS rerun) Edit: I don't plan to pull any summoners unless it's the potential Seele expy or Kevin expy (no idea what they do). I've heard rumours of a nihility meta somewhere down the line. Planning on saving for The Herta and investing in a team for her. Jing Yuan isn't used enough by me to warrant pulling Sunday.
pulled sparkle on last rerun didnt even build her cuz i waited for acheron e2 now i could just pulled sunday and be future proof gonna jump off smth rn
sunday being better than sparkle is not the real problem the real shit is sparkle losing against robin on hypercarry comp that shit is a real problem and not just that she can't maintain the buff if you pair with sunday
Fugue is going to be better for people who didnt pull ANY summon type characters and is going to make ALL your characters invested viable because of this HP and Toughness super inflation. I think people are sleeping on this and a lot of people are going to regret pulling Sunday instead. Specially when they hinted this by making an Acheron rerun first. She will be the PREFFERED support for C0 Acheron teams hands down. Dont be duped by TH-camrs glazing Sunday if your secondary main team doesn’t have summon based characters. Just a word of warning.
As long as people plan on investing into Remembrance path, Sunday is going to be a safe pull for the foreseeable future. Even ignoring that he will have good synergy with almost any CR/CD character minus Fei Xiao and Acheron.
@ Sure but the issue is that if you dont pull Fugue, most of your past investment is going to shit and if you dont pull him then your future characters who probably are summon characters wont be as good. I’d be safe than sorry. Fugue is better for my account.
@@TOTGodofWar right now and in the future we are likely to continue in HP and toughness inflation. I didnt pulled since robin and didnt pulled robin onwards. I could easily 36 star MOC with 0 issues with all my old lineups. Currently, only 1 team from literally ALL of the cast before robin’s that’d be (Imaginary MC, Gallagher, Ruan Mei and Firefly) is the ONLY team that can tackle this MoC properly because of the lack of proper superbreak support. Every character after that, for example, Feixiao, Jiaoqiu, Lingsha, Yungli, Rappa, Moze are ALL characters tailored specifically for this break damage, break weakness, follow up damage supports and playstyle and if you didnt pull any of those to carry any of your older units, you are cooked for current endgame. Its basically not clearable on 36 stars because there is a power gap that will continue to be there in the future. 1 side of your MoC will suffer the consequences so the only way to bring your old characters forward is to pull Fugue to revitalize your old units since its unlikely they will back down on this. They didnt do it in HI3 and this is certainly what they will continue to do in HSR for the future. They just create an issue and resolve it with a new unit. That is what Fugue is there to do. To patch your current investment of old units by giving them properties of the new lineups by the virtue of inserting her where she is needed as a patch to them. I didint pulled any of the summons meta so Fugue definitely will sustain my investment in old units to ensure I can properly clear endgame. The power creep in this game is becoming real. I i would pull Sunday when I invest in summons meta properly but at least for me, pulling him is a fools errand not having Topaz, lingsha or the General. That’s about it.
@Mindontcompute hmmm Pre-Robin characters. Pretty sure Acheron is usable on both sides, Blade side 1, and Jingliu side 2. Oh and if somebody has E2 IL he should be an option for side 2. Probably some person out there is using Seele even, but I suspect at that point it is utter brute forcing with limited support ediolons. Still not an idea MoC 12 for her.
use sparkle because, a just like having more skill point, and well acheron can just one shot all, with fu xuan. no need sunday, if you have sparkle or bronya, sunday is good, if you have 0 support to buff your main, dps or your jing yuan for sumoner.
heya i have acheron e2s1 firefly e0s0 feixiao e0s1 , so pulling sunday will help my account ? btw i have sparkle robine dont have bronya - jiaoqiu and ruan mei yet , i was thinking to pull sunday for future summon meta characters untill then will he be usable effectively in any of these teams ? or shall i go for firefly lightcone or e1 maybe and wait for jiaoqiu ruanmei and lingsha?
Unless you desperately want in on the summon meta it's completely optional for you to pull Sunday. I have the same teams kinda (E0S1 Acheron, E0S0 FF, E0S1-ish Feixiao and E0S0 Rappa), and I see no reason to pull Sunday at all. If you want to experiment with other break DPS I'd recommend Fugue otherwise you should be set if you have enough sustain, and yeah maybe consider Jiaoqiu tho he's also not necessary at E2 with Sparkle. Ruan Mei is also still worth picking up. If you change your mind about summon meta I think Sunday will have a decently fast rerun, it's what happened with Robin after all.
If Hoyo does this bullshit again, I go f2p. First they did absolute power creep of Loucha, then they made a weak kit for Sparkle scared to power creep Bronya and then absolute power crept both within the same major patch as Sparkle. Power creeping every aspect of a previous premiere character this soon is so beyond ridiculous. I would gladly skip Sunday but I bet summon characters will be useless without him.
I am hardly wrong about these things, as a person who told everybody to pull for Lingsha. especially F2P, don't worry about sunday for summons. Algaea is the meta for summons needs Robin or Jade that is from the official source, they never mention sunday. don't forget Harmony MC they want to move him on towards Remembrance, that is why if you are break team sadly you need Fugue. don't listen to hype about Fugue is set to replace Ruan Mei. (which isn't happening cause skill regain issue)
@@drakehound2244aglaea not needing sunday sounds a bit weird honestly. why would you not want an extra turn for your summon? sorry havent really been through the leaks yet but pretty sure aglaea is for the upcoming summon meta?
@@drakehound2244 Wow, dead wrong on both Sunday and Fugue, that's almost impressive. Fugue can replace anyone aside from the break DPS btw (ideally sustain if possible).
Well according to the dreams… Leaks below The next 2 DPS units are HP scaling like blade and work together and actually want to run 2 healers and the teams use Loucha so Bro might be making the ultimate comeback ( Maybe )
Honestly I don't care how great Sunday will be, I will not be tricked into pulling for a 3rd bronya. Not to mention I have ruan mei, sparkle, and Robin. Sunday will be great I'm sure but I'll wait until the next truly broken harmony releases.
bruh not even fucking 2.x harmony characters are safe from power creep, lmao. I think the likes of Acheron, feixiao are only going to be relevant for the next few months before they power crept to oblivion.
Tbh I don't rlly mind getting Sunday on a rerun but I was thinking E1 Bronya + Sunday LC.... is it a good idea? I kinda wanna save my pulls for fugue and madam herta and I don't plan on getting either LC, I already have 60 pity on LC banner Mainly using bronya on e2 Acheron team (Pela instead of jiaoqiu)
Is really the best IDEA Bronya gains more from Sunday LC then Sunday itself, especially at 200% speed (that is 4 activation a cycle) 3 of Bronya activation is used for Skill Regain cause of her basic attack, Sunday Lightcone makes it 100% garanteed that within that cycle you activate your Ultimate and Skill to be net positive. that lightcon of Sunday is BUSTED.
@@thatokperson so what Harmony MC going to be Remembrance, what if people come playing during 3.0 and want to build a remembrance team cause of summons/pokemons. so many might may or happen, sunday isn't META period. it isn't that sunday is bad, same reason Rappa isn't bad either. but stop hyping it up that Sunday will the next Ruan Mei cause he won't be. those are mathethical facts. and the way Sunday kit is build and they had to ad helps Summons to tease. so if you like sunday pull for him but Sunday NEEDS his lightcone, but funny enough his light cone is better for Bronya then Sunday.
@@valt4462 I can’t get the new set with some good cd for the life of me so my current 160+ build feels like a lil slap in the face since it feels unnecessary and sad without the cd lol
it's not. you run hyperspeed sparkle bc she has only 50% AA, it's just a shortcut for your dps to act faster. but 100% AA means your DPS gets to act TWICE everytime. running 160 gives your dps 2 turns 1st cycle, -1 gives you 4 turns. you're supposed to build him like bronya, not sparkle.
They were so conservative with Sparkle by giving her only 50% AA so as to not powercreep Bronya. But then released both siblings with broken kits, teamwide 100% AA and ST 100% including summon. Insane balancing
50% av is both a blessing and a curse, it can be better in certain cases so thats not an issue. Sparkle's issue is simply how simole her buffs are + atk buff gets better only in mono quantum
@@scorpx3790It is beneficial for 168 speed, 48 speed from 5 pieces, S5 DDD.
Sparkle with the true 3 turn rotation and carrying the DDD LC combined with her own 4pc Eagle set Adv.
@@JMike-bq6rl yeah that's the thing. You need that much investment just for sparkle to give your carry 3 turn in first cycle while Sunday/bronya -1(>134 SPD) build allows the carry to have 4 turns in first cycle. Id even argue DDD is an even harder LC to get than signatures honestly
@izzme5204 Until they get frozen, and restart all over again.
I saw people in chat say Sunday is not F2P friendly when they keep forgetting you have 10 cycles to clear MoC…. I haven’t pulled a single LC and I can clear MoC 12 Consistently…. It’s not in anyways fast clears but I still clear it
True all of my members laugh at me not pulling for acheron sig
She still can beat all content as f2p
Better save jade's for future 3.0 dps
I pull only characters c0 and never touched LC banner. Still clear all endgame, but of course not always so easy, or fast, but still full stars.
But I do understand, why people say about some characters are not f2p friendly, cause it is sucks when hoyo screw unit's kit just to sell the solution in their LC (like Yunli's LC having crazy agro bonus)
most likely gonna get his lc at his rerun, i have bronyas so yeah
@@RavenShugoRappa still the most egregious version of this imo.
@@JohnDoe-si4eg I'm f2p but still pull Sig LC
Seele,ratio,Fu xuan,Jing yuan and JQ
Too bad Fu xuan LC is bad I mean it's not universal compared to other 4 LC
Who is better? Obviously sunday. He has everything u want in his kit. Sp positive, battery, 100℅ adv forward on both character &summon, both crit rate&crit dmg buff, buff that has the same duration mechanics as both ruan mei&robin. Not to mention he is also the one and only robin family. If u have robin u definitely have to pull for him. Otherwise how could u be so cruel to separate them when they can finally be reunite.
that last sentence …
please dont get into fan fic
Robin is top tier, but as far as the actual character she is my least favorite. I feel like she has me trapped in a f**king musical! I need an option to get her to at least sing something else, heck id even BUY an option to turn her volume off
@MakotoMajima30 well i get u. Hearing the same song for thousands of times can definitely get annoying. Wish mihoyo implement robin album song on her ultimate song. So that her ultimate song isn't so repetitive. Tho the moment when robin first introduced i can alrdy see this coming where her song will be like a curse. But anyway all said i am still advocating that as someone who has robin should definitely pull for sunday. Cuz it's so cruel to separate them after such a long while to finally have a chance to be reunite.
Sunday is a creep who kidnapped his sister's friends. The glazing over his character is insane.
No thanks.
Bro is a male so it's an automatic skip
Make svrog a summon!
Imma let this cook…
Sunday is better than the two others. Sparkle got powercrept pretty badly because Sunday gives more SP and bigger buffs. Bronya with one or two eidolons is not that far behind because unlike Sunday she can push Robin and is less reliant on signature.
More SP? I don't think so, at E0S0 he's neutral at best, even with Sign he generates nowhere near Sparkle's +7SP in the first cycle (technique + ult). One more thing is that his AV advance is 100%, meaning the Dps'd most likely consume more SP than they would have with Sparkle.
not really, Sunday being SP negative by not having a 3T ult is a pretty bad feature, and his buffs are lower for anybody that does not have summons
Not to mention you can use Sunday LC on Sparkle to make her even more SP positive
Its probably better than her sig tbh
"Not far behind" Is an understatement. E2/E3 Bronya is Far behind E0S0 Sunday, And who is gonna push "Robin" with bronya? Lmao
You like talking to 0.01% Playerbase from that statement
?? Sparkle DEFINITELY gives more sp especially at e0s0.
Hello! So to everyone including pokke that is asking "why does Sunday have 100% uptime on his ult?" It's because beatified's duration only ticks down at the START of his turn, hence why when you use the ultimate DURING your turn, your 1/4 towards you ulti while still having a 3 turn duration on his ultimate hence making him sp neutral
This tactic is also used with sparkle ang ruan mei in their ultimate
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Sparkle found dead in a ditch
rip sparks
im kinda mad tbh version 2 didnt even end and a support character got powercrept this bad....how long till they powercreep robin and ruan mei? this is honestly very concerning and it very much demotivates me from playing because whats even the point? you spend all your resources building a unit and then boom they are no longer meta they cant clear MOC in good time all that resources and jades wasted I barely touch my jingliu and seelie anymore now sparkle despite being a support joins the group
genshin truly could never hell ZZZ and wuwa probably would never either
Meanwhile Sparkle in HI3RD
Fastest and hardest power creep makes me drop the game lol
@@Indian_gae_boii it's your fault for even caring about the META in a hoyoverse game in the first place. Any unit can clear the endgame easily. My f2p blade cleared moc within 3 cycles, 1 cycle less than my feixiao. Your sparkle, seele, and jingliu can certainly clear mic and apoc without a problem. So why does a slight powercreep bother you this badly?
7:00 if you ult on sunday's turn he is sp positive since the ult lasts one extra turn, first skill you don't get skill point, next turn you ult, then you get sp, get sp, get sp, then repeat
ult - 3t left, skill - 1/4 energy
2t left, 2/4 energy
1t left, 3/4 energy
0 - now skilling doesn't recover sp and you don't have max energy yet (needs 2 enemy hits or some other sources)
how is this sp positive if you lose sp over time
@@sethl1475His sig makes him SP positive
@@sethl1475ulting on his turn means he essentially has 4 turns on ult.
Thus, you can skill four time before the ult expires, then once it does just w8 until sunday's turn to use his ult again.
This tech exists with rm ult too (ult on the start of her turn, you basically get three turn ult duration)
@@Wawawawawa750where did you pull 4 turns from? His ult duration goes down at the start of his turn so if you ult during his turn:
Ult, 0 sp skill, 3 turns left
0 sp skill, 2 turns left
0 sp skill, 1 turn left
Then on the fourth one his ult is out before he can use skill because the turn timer goes down at the start of his turn
@Foodiiee01 his buff duration ticks down at START of turn. Thus when you ult during his turn, it does not tick down until his next turn. So, technically it lasts 4 turns and this is important bcs Sunday has a 4 turn ult unless you. get hit without LC.
This tech can be used for RM too, her ult last two turns but if you use it during her turn, its lasts 3 turns instead
Nice, I'm wasted my money on sparkle lightcone
You could use it on Sunday funny enough for more dps
@@jmcMateo whats the cook? Doesn't that LC kill his ultimate rotation?
@@Sable813 he retains his 4 turn rotation however you can now give your team 30% crit rate overall and give more cdmg, the sacrifice is not getting a 3 turn ult. You need his signature or s3 bronya lightcone anyways for that. Sparkle lightcone isn't that bad if you already have it. Just slap it on Sunday.
first time?
@@jmcMateo interesting! So if you're only pulling e0s0, since he won't get a 3 turn ult anyways just amp up his hypercarry buffing and go all in with Sparkles LC. You could essentially abandon crit rate on certain characters and go all out on crit dmg.
Thinking about Hypercarry Ratio with e0s0 Sunday now, since Feixiao stole his team from him....
I mean sparkle really isn't dead, if you have her she is gonna do her job, its true that sunday is better but that doesn't mean she is bad, we are having this conversation for like 5th time,
its simple, a really good harmony will never be bad no matter who comes out, they may be better but others are not bad, and honestly if you have sparkle and bronya and you dont want to partake in summon meta is there a need to summon for him, (or of course if you like him),
especially because of the hell that's going to happen soon lord may save our souls 😭
Thank you! I hate this mentality where one character being good somehow would invalidate another.
Yeah I won't be tricked into pulling bronya #3. If I go from 2 cycling to 4 cycling or whatever I do not care. I will wait for the next TRULY broken character which you know we will get.
Yeah I think they really exaggerate Sparkle being dead. If you have her then she'll work just as fine (unless it's Jing Yuan). You can't even use Sunday to AA Robin for a fast ult at the start of the battle so it really doesn't matter for me. And I mainly use Firefly, Rappa, Yunli at the moment and they all don't need him to an extent (some argue Yunli for energy but who in their right mind would run speed on Yunli for a -1 Sunday??).
Sparkle is like their #1 favorite mascot, the character they've given the most mysterious lore, and the most foreshadowing. We literally know that she's been on Amphoreus, we still don't know what her powers are, how she put us to sleep, how she knew about Ena's dream before everyone, how she knew about Firefly and Robin's "deaths" to give Aventurine the clue, how she put you to sleep and sent you to Dreamflux Reef by herself without the use of "death", how she was the only one not to end up in Ena's dream in the first fake credits and "bad ending" while everyone else did... There's also a World's End Tavern on both Penacony and Amphoreus. And I'm _barely_ scratching the surface of everything she and Sampo have done, it's much, much deeper, but she does it all in the background to fool the player.
When you do the math, Sparkle is _still_ better than Sunday at 1 team, giving a higher total dmg boost. That team is monoquantum with Qingque. Qingque boosts her own DMG% by an insane amount which is what Sparkle gives the least of, and what Sunday gives the most of, meaning Sunday gets diminishing returns and not Sparkle. And, since you _don't_ want double turns with Qingque because of her insane SP drain, hyperspeed is even better, and turns out Sparkle has more speed than Sunday on top of her better buff spread. Her light cone also gives more total stats and doesn't take 3 actions to give the full buff like Sunday's, Sunday trades slightly weaker buffs on the LC in exchange for the SP positivity, Sparkle is SP positive by default.
How much are you willing to bet that Sparkle isn't gonna become better than Sunday the moment they release a Qingque 5 star powercreep that has an ult like Acheron/Feixiao/Firefly/Rappa and doesn't even need energy? Emanator of Elation Masked Sampo? Cipher? Castorice, maybe? It's _going_ to happen one day. Sparkle is worse now, not necessarily forever, the lack of ability to see what they're cooking up is insane.
@@BenBeckmane Sparkle feels pretty much custom made for Qingque. And sure it takes some QQ eidolons to get to a good level... But QQ is genuinely one of the most fun characters to play. And i feel that that should count for something
Skipping 2.7 for Madame Emanator Kuru Kuru💜
*THE* madame emanator kuru kuru
May the blessings of the emanator Kururing be upon you. I love erudition sm and I love Herta as a character so W
Sunday IS SP Neutral, you just need to ULT ON HIS OWN TURN. That should be the mechanic if you’re an S0 user.
@@chimilicitypjm459 this is misleading. To ensure 3T ult rotation which can ensure his SP neutrality, you want at least E3 bronya Sig+err planar. If any less than that you need to rely on the rng of external energy sources.
@@izzme5204 this is NOT misleading. If you use Sunday’s ult in his own turn, you will get 100% uptime on his skill refund which makes him SP NEUTRAL.
ult (his turn):
13.684 (target now beatified)
skill: 58.468 (3 stacks beatified, doesn't tick down yet since it is done during his turn) skill: 103.252 (2 stacks beatified)
skill: 148.036 (1 stack beatified)
ult (his own turn again) - skill:
repeat
@@izzme5204 3T ult rotation =/= being SP Negative. That’s not my point. He doesn’t do 3T ult at s0 BUT he has 100% uptime with his skill refund passive via the mechanic i said above^
@@chimilicitypjm459 there is already a very detailed table on the sunday subreddit that you can go find.
@@chimilicitypjm459 there is a very detailed energy table on Sunday subreadit if you want to see it
They've actually updated this guide to include "Assumes you get hit once every 3 actions to get the missing energy" after Sunday's SP neutrality. So this does assume S0, though probably with Bronya Sig from the shop.
Sunday. Easy. Definitely Sunday. SP positive, instant action, damage buff to character with summon and energy regen.
He is basically the entire package that arguably stands head and shoulders to Sparkle.
Pair him with Robin for a Hypercarry team and that main can gonna go on a rampage.
don’t forget he gives a FREE 20% crit rate too
He also can give crit dmg😂
sparkle is SP positive, does instant action advance, 100% cdmg buff, dmg buff AND atk to quantum..
@@krishnavjamdagni8076 keep coping man she's ass
@@krishnavjamdagni8076and it STILL pales in comparison to Sunday's buffs and action advance (not to mention he also cleanses on top), and at both e0s1 Sunday even wins in sp positivity. This INCLUDES quantum dps btw, Sunday has been tested to straight up be better even for QQ and Seele in a 3 qua team, there is literally no field Sparkle wins
Funniest thing ever would be that summon and servant are different tags and Sunday only pulls up summons
ty for the honest opinion, most guides keep saying Sunday is OP and I was getting FOMO. Now I can skip and pull Fugue without any regrets
19:52 uhh... no. It totally matches. An E0S1 Sunday comsumes 1 and generates 6 SP for a total of 5 SP generated in 9 turns (or roughly 700AV at 134 Spd); an E0S1 Sparkle in the same condition generates 6 SP (consumes 9 and generates 15 SP via 3 ults + technique). That didn't consider the fact that Sunday's DPS acts twice as fast instead of ×1.5 speed of Sparkle's. So E0S1 Sunday's SP economy matches Sparkle's at best, even when considering 0 cycling you won't ever see a Sunday recovering 7 SP in the first cycle like Sparkle does.
Btw I wanna see you checking out Sparkle + Sunday's Sign, an absolute SP generating machine.
yeah, some people were only comparing Sparkle's Skill+Ult to Sunday's overall SP generation, when Sparkle has her Technique that gives her a head start and +2 sp cap to match the overload.
in terms of SP alone, pretty sure E0S1 Sunday is only ever up to par with Sparkle, but not any better.
one thing that is not mentionned is that bronya S1 shorten her ult rotation, which does up her uptime.
Oh and feixiao's follow up and ult are buffed by bronya if cast right after her action (same with everything happening before the start of another turn)
Just like his sister, Sunday gonna be in the meta for the whole X.0 version which is likely 8-10 months, and knowing hoyo he gonna have a fast rerun like robin to match the future meta
Time to use Meshing cogs Sunday
Mihoyo really did Sparkle dirty. I love her character, but there’s always this lingering feeling that I got baited into pulling for her. She has 50% AA, frontloaded SP generation, and diminishing returns on buffs-all of which are outclassed by Sunday. I sincerely hope they do her justice when we reach her home planet and give her a new form because, right now, she feels like half of what makes Sunday whole.
I could understand if Sunday were just an SP-neutral support, but he outperforms Sparkle in every way: AA-ing summons, providing better ATK and crit buffs, more sp positive, and even offering energy regen. At this point, Sparkle feels like the first character to be truly powercrept, while other characters still have unique niches. RIP Sparkle, you were released too early.
How can Sunday be skill points positive when he spams his skill, and your main dpser has to use his Skill points to do damage? he action advance your main dpser. who has to use skill points to do DAMAGE. so where is the skill points regain?
@@drakehound2244 Its in his ult when you AA a unit that has his ult you get a SP back
@@valt4462 Can he achieve his Ultimate every activation? no then you are still in the 0 SP back cause you action advance the Main DPSER. who eats up 1 skill points.
So in that turn your maindpser needs 2 skill points. and Sunday provide 0. cause his free skillpoints goes into his Skill.
@@drakehound2244
Okay let’s go through it. Every turn Sparkle has to use her skill. That’s -1 SP per turn but after 3 turns she gets her ult which lets you recover 4 SP.
That’s means Sparkle recovers 1 SP per 3 turns.
When you’re beautified (you will always be beautified after the first turn due to his trace), your SP is refunded on skill. So that is -0 sp per turn for the rest of the fight.
If you have his lightcone, you get refunded a skill point every 2 casts of a single target buff. He gets his ultimate every 3 turns as well when you have his signature.
That means in 3 turns, you will have used skill 3 times and ultimate 1 time. That means the light cone will give him 2 skill points while he never uses a skill point.
That means Sunday recovers 2 skill points per 3 turns with his light cone.
If you’re complaining that the DPS has more turns then just basic attack. No reason the DPS can’t basic every now and then since you get double the turns.
@@drakehound2244 his ult is like hmc and just as the vid said you can do a 3 turn ult sunday with his lc so its pretty much active all the time
Idk man, ive seen some cooks back in the sus videos era showing Gallagher with quid go pro instead of huo huo and honestly, that I think solves all of the energy issues possible sp issues of the team, might not be as comfy but that's what I'll be mainly running
tbh that’s manageable when you have e0s0 the best way to go are sustain that don’t use so much sp like gallagher or luocha
Well that's really depend on scenario, if it's just Sunday alone, everything hunky dory. But if it's all three slot empty, you better pray for good Rng.
The question isn't if Sunday is better but if he's ~100 pulls worth better
Might be worth just pulling the Sunday LC instead of him if you want a more SP positive Bronya or Sparkle. Sparkle becomes an even bigger SP machine.
I think one niche that Sparkle has is her comfort and ease of build for DPS. Hyperspeed variant is very comfortable in sp usage and dps don't have to worry about speed boots which are uncommon to get compare to atk/def/hp. I will say in order to be competitive, it revolves around using 168 spd with eagles + s5 DDD for that 3t in the first cycle which is her best build.
Sunday and Bronya are better off with -1 spd due to their 100% action advance. Dps would need to use spd boots but they would get more turns off which equates to more energy for their ults. More ults adds more to their overall damage.
Edit: Just want to also add: If I have to choose which to run Hyperspeed variant, it'll be Sparkle. Imo she's the best to fulfill that role. I prefer Sunday/Bronya to run their -1 spd variant to take full advantage of their action advance.
Sparkle is also just actually SP positive (0.33 SP is better than 0) whereas Sunday is SP neutral unless you pull his signature (or run Bronya's on him). She's still the GOAT for QQ, DHIL, and quantum DPS (which she buffs much better than Sunday can). Sadly, our only quantum DPS are not doing amazing unless you're E6 SW 😆
@@ladyhdwastaken If Sunday is e0s0, Sparkle would do better, yeah. Her signature is not worth going for anyway; just do s5 DDD variant to fulfill the pseudo 200 spd. But with Sunday's signature, which is his flaw because he really needs it, Sunday becomes better than her at that point.
As Pokke said, "I wouldn't pull for Sunday if you can't go for his signature. " I agree.
@@ladyhdwastaken Yeah she is better at QQ. Qingque never got her powercreep yet. If you say "DHIL" is Qingque's powercreep then explain why his skill buffs crit dmg instead of DMG% like Qingque. DMG% is the thing that Sparkle lacks the most and crit dmg the thing she lacks the least so Qingque giving herself 152% DMG buff is extremely synergistic, gets diminishing returns on Sunday compared to Sparkle's wider variety of buffs... Also why is he Imaginary and not making use of her monoquantum trace? Her kit is not even being fully used. HSR NEVER makes premium options _not_ use the full kit of the allies. And, why does he rely on energy so heavily to get his ult and stacks up when there's no energy giver in monoquantum?
The _real_ Qingque powercreep will have an ult like Acheron/Feixiao/Firefly/Rappa so that Sunday's energy regen doesn't matter, will prefer hyperspeed over double turns, will be quantum, and will buff their own DMG% massively through skill point consumption so that Sparkle's buffs are the best for that character. It's probably gonna be Masked Sampo, Cipher, or Castorice. It'll happen for sure, eventually. Sparkle is only "dead" for now until that character comes out
SUNDAY POWERCREEP EVERYTHING RAAGHH 🦅🦅🦅
I am gonna skip 2.7 and 3.0 even though I have rappa, boothill, and acheron. All I want is an E2 of Castorice.(I may even skip castorice's support if their banner comes before my queen)
According to leaks the best character to pair her with is Mydei, who literally comes right before her so that has made me lose interest a little. Hopefully they dont absolutely need each other to be good
Yeah if someone asks "Do I pull Sparkle or Sunday" there's only one right answer for sure, it's 100% Sunday. After that it does get a bit trickier, and I'm glad Pokke went into the nitty gritty a bit. I'm skipping him for Fugue for the following reasons:
My best DPS right now are Feixiao, Acheron, Firefly and Rappa. None of them are *particularly* interested in Sunday. Feixiao/Acheron technically can be, due to the 2 turn duration on skill buff and better SP economy, but we are getting a standard selector when the patch drops and that allows me to E6 my Bronya for that same effect. My Sparkle meanwhile is 168 speed on 4 pc Eagle with S5 DDD so she is basically in a different role at this point. 3 action forwards for your DPS in cycle 0 is diabolical, but also hella unrelatable. The average player should probably seriously consider getting him. Of course the elephant in the room is also summon meta, it could be completely unplayable without him for all we know. If that's the case then so be it. Not like my teams won't be able to clear if they're 1 cycling right now. Finally, I'm also kinda eyeing Sunday's LC for Bronya. It seems like a decent upgrade over her own as it refunds more skill points. The dmg% buff also appears to be permanent which helps the Broyna+Robin tech that I sometimes use on my Feixiao team.
Same here! E6 Bronya haver, I'll pull his lightcone for her but unless there's a summoner I *really* want, I'm hard skipping. I wouldn't assume Madame Herta is a summoner and she's who I'm saving for anyway. None of my DPS that I use really care for Sunday (also have E0S1 Sparkle)
Damn e6 bronya I'm looking at my e3 ice pick boy and e3 grandpa with e2 Blondie with a shield while having a e1 bronya man fuck this game
@@source324 yeah well my 50/50 losses have been unreasonably lucky. I don’t even have Yanqing lol, and no eidolons on anyone else except randomly E2 Gepard. I get use out of him and his E1 on Acheron teams tho lol.
Tingyung, HouHou, and Sunday makes the most energetic team comp
Alright i wanna give my thoughts about S1 for sunday. I feel like unless you are mad unlucky, if you run shared feeling s5 or quid pro quo s5 or huohuo (which you prolly would in hypercarry setup), and put him in the center of the team lineup next to the sustain, you should be able to consistently hit the 3 turn ult, especially if you dont waste those ult charges. So don't feel forced to pull his signature.
s0 sunday with huohuo, gl with sp economy
@@sethl1475 I wasn't clear enough but you should be able to do this with any sustain, like gallagher, or even lingsha with those light cones. Huohuo is comfort for when your carry doesn't use SP like clara, or jingliu. But I don't think his sig is required.
Thinking I'm just going to get his LC for my e1 Bronya
Based, same here for my e2 Bronya. Give her Sunday LC and solve her biggest issue. Get Sunday on rerun when I have more resources.
@@Sable813 his lightcone can be used on tingyun, sparkle and bronya. It's nuts. It makes them plus 1. Tingyun can fully utilize it since she's has a single target kit
I really dont know what sparkles niche is supposed to be anymore. At s1 sunday is giving as many skill points as sparkle. Unless they make like a dhil version of a support that takes more sp for more buffs, or make a dps that takes more skill points. I think this might be one of the most powercrept characters in the game alongside blade
Blade is still performing pretty solid. He still eats a lot of damage and not die.
@ yeah but sunday is giving more damage percent which blade loves. Instead of spronya now you run sundya.
I have Sparkle and I'm planning to pull for Sunday because I love his character. It kind of sucks gameplay wise that Sparkle is getting powercrept, but I do not regret pulling for her cause her trailer is absolute peak
The thing is this 2.7 patch is basically pull sunday level him up and his traces farm for a decent relic and bench him for the entire patch until a pretty much bonker remembrance DPS could utilize his full kit. Since Hoyo is known for selling characters They will definitely create a Summon DPS which can powercrept the existing break and Hypercarry Basically pull him now you have great investment that you don't need to pull him in his rerun.
While fugue of the other side you can use her right away since she has the right DPSes which is also easy to build does not rely on insane 80/160 crit stat requirement. But They will become kinda outdated unless a new Break DPS could powercreep the existence of FF, Rappa, Boothill.
19:52 I almost choked on my drink hearing that bruh. Dude is unhinged 😂
I have a cracked build for my E2 acheron with attack boots + 161 sparkle. Do i need to farm speed boots and get acheron to 135 and sunday to 134 or is 161 sunday good enough
You can play him 161 SPD, but then you're wasting the main thing that makes him better than Sparkle (100% action advance). At that point, I'm pretty sure Sparkle would pull ahead DPS-wise.
161 speed???? Even with speed boots that number is crazy high. If you don't sacrifice other stats, forget reaching such an amount. (Especially for casual players).
The thing with Sparkle is that her niche didn't really get the attention it needed for her to break out of the standard "Hypercarry" buffer. Even if Sunday gets powercrept in buffing power, he will still have that "summoning" niche. Bronya even while she was powercrept still had her 100% advance while being fairly accessible (now with the 5 star selector, completely accessible). As of now Psarkle's niche of skill point hungry characters are fairly outdated now, Qingque's buffs are simply not enough to make up for her being a 4 star (from 1.0 too) and DHIL's damage output is meh without his E2, but then again at that point if you want damage, just get Acheron or Feiziao or anyone E2. I'm sure that once we have good characters that use a ton of skill points then Sparkle might be able to geet off the bench, but for now, she can enjoy her time in HI3 for now.
😂Stop coping. She is the weakest 5 star harmony. No dps could save her if that dps also can be used with other harmony who already far ahead of her. Imagine only having 50% AA and new do g speed tuning lmao😂. So weak. Glad that both Sunday and Robin showing the value of 100% AA and saving hypercarry team fron the fraud of Sparkle. Remember that you cannot spell her name without L 😂😂😂
He sparkles better than the actual sparkle with his s1 and 2 sp per 3 turns instead of only 1 and has 100% AA with higher buff uptime
He bronyas better than bronya since he also AAs the summons and his skill buffs last for 2 turns instead
He tingyuns better than tingyun for also having a huge crit dmg buff on his ultimate alongside the energy with better uptime
Unless they release a "1 to 1 SUNDAY BUT AOE" that i highly doubt they're gonna do especially since that'll take robins biggest advantage that is team wide AA
Of course they won't release 1 to 1, they'll powercreep the hell out of him eventually, considering how fast they released him after Sparkle, it's likely to be sooner than later.
@@Mr.Heller yeah, we will have to see robin powercreep first before Sunday since she was released earlier
Would “Shared Feeling” on Huohuo guarantee ult on s0 Sunday?
That energy regeneration bonus will age like milk when the true top tier dps' of 3.0+ will release with no energy mechanics like Acheron and Feixiao
Or the reverse when u see 3.x dps having 3+ bars of energy, i think there is a reason he only refund 20% energy but get a trace that gives 40 energy instead during the beta, i can see 300+ max energy coming in the future
Yet he still is BIS over sparkle and Robin in the Acheron Team ( At S1 ) so depending on how they get thier stacks/Energy he might still work.
@@The_CodFish69No. Remember MoC, APOC, and PF are about 2 teams. Why waste Sunday on Acheron when the dps on the other team would benefit more from Sunday.
@@TOTGodofWar like who? Currently only team's that benefit from him are Acheron, BH, DHIL and JY.
And only 2 of the team's are universally good being BH and Acheron so what's your point exactly?
Because BH can use Broyna fine also for your second team FUA and Break you know the best 2 teams RN don't use him so ya...
@@The_CodFish69no one cares about midcheron that garbage is gonna get powercreept soon
Even if I pull Sunday for the future (or in the future on rerun), my E2 Sparkle is my dedicated harmony for E2 Acheron. The ATK boots build is better on her than most, the advance is always fully forward, add the ATK and DEF shred eidolons on top of Jiaoqiu vulnerability and dmg (E1S1) and it just works. No DDD, S1 Sparkle with not much speed and high CDMG, Nuke Mode. With Fu Xuan I can run 42cr on Acheron and have 98% in battle. Robin can then always be with Feixiao, and Ruan Mei + Bronya for Boothill (or RM DoT). They all can have an ideal place IMO.
Sunday buffing Boothill ult damage and being way more SP efficient while performing the same AA benefit would be very nice ofc, hard not to call him Bronya ProMax. I have zero summon characters, and fully intend to skip the first one of 3.x, But I doubt I'll ever truly skip a harmony on rerun if not the first time (I used to be Meidenless 😭, I fixed that).
When people compare Sparkle they often forget her technique. Starting with +3 SP is pretty huge.
Running Feixiao hypercarry with e4 bronya and bobin?
That would increase the ult stacking and also she can advance robin as well.
Hehehe i got the best idea. Sparkle-Bronya-Sunday with sparkle 162/163 speed. Getting 3 turns with 160 speed will be insane hahahahaha
Finally my 450 f2p pulls will be put in good use 😼
What's funny is sparkle, bronya , and tingyun get buffed in SP usage with Sunday lightcone
Skip sunday. All in to fire fox tingyun 😅
okay but how about two of them together? i know there are sync and buff uptime issues with sparkle + sunday but waiting for the cook regardless for E2 DHIL
Sparkle was Hoyoverse's BS planning. Like, she was initially Hanya's promax but then added to her generic mono Quantumn trend that revolves around Silverwolf as a sub-dps and that killed her hard, that could've been something nice for hypercarry but s e r i o u s l y, generic teamwide buff for what reasons??? No rare stats unless E2, and even so takes time to stack???
As a day one player, I have somehow dodged bronya to this day. Time to pull Bronya 2 electric boogaloo
*meanwhile has E6 Bronya* >_>
As a Sparkle puller who want to invest in Rememberance I feel like my 11 tickets was wasted :(
I would say losing the 50/50 on Sparkle might not be so bad if I get Sunday, but I don't think there's enough cope in the world to justify being happy to get a Yanqing 💀
"PAY TO WIN GAME" "IT IS WHAT IT IS" lmao
Why not use bronya LC on Sunday to solve sp issues?? + quiproquo user
i also think of that e0s0 sunday is manageable. but lot of people likely being jackass like it’s the end of the world 💀
Blud forget that, the other two slot generate sp while Sunday spam on hypercarry. Almost forget we playing strategy game with *4 slot team*.
@@aliounethiaw1443 it's just that it's a bit rng dependent, but ofc, still manageable since enemies nowadays does a lot of AoE attack anyways
Does sunday's signature lightcone work on bronya?
With bronya eidolons is there a team where she wants to be used and is better than Sunday? I quite like her character and happen to have an E-2. It would be a shame to not be able to use her
I can only think of Acheron and Fei Xiao.
Didn't realize bronya was still pretty close to Sunday when it comes to buffs.
Bronya came out in 1.0
Cause most of HSR players are useless they don't explore or even test a character, half of them are hired trolls who don't even play the game or know anything about game mechanics. and just troll any bad post with meme. some of the youtubers are so stupid, yelling META and other stuff, without even understand what META is.
have you seen clara singlehandedly destroy MOC and PF, or himeko for AS, PF, herta in PF? all those are 1.0 characters and they are still top tier even to this day. Clara unique mechanic has only been rival by 1 character: yunli and not many people pulled her either.
its not close when you consider the energy, and number of turns and sp
@@Void_Everfrost Heck Herta 4 star is gigantic meta, beats out tons of 5 star. cause she can even do damage against none ICE weakness enemies. her follow up has no activation limite, same story for himeko. Clara I haven't pulled yet, so I cannot give my comment, I need to pull the characters test them Equip them trace them and relic them. and let say this RELICS passive 2 set and 4 set bonus, makes a huge difference cause they can make or break a character aside from Light cone combinations.
it’s not close cause bronya skill last for one turn. can be huge damage loss. just bcs you see lot number of bronya than sunday doesn’t mean its good
Haven't done a single Super Break team, i've never liked the play style which destroyed the niche of normal Break DPS...
Bronya dispel debuff from her carry. Bronya gives ~30speed at E2.
I'm thinking about pulling Sunday's LC for my E3R1 Bronya.
Keep in mind that Sunday also has the same cleanse effect as Bronya. That's said I'm doing the same, except my Bronya is E5 (E6 when Sunday drops).
@@bjornnilsson2941 wow, i somehow miss that. One less reason for me to stick with Bronya.
Also congratz with E6 Bronya next week. It's up to 2 years for me it seems, lol.
Just watched the end, im guranteed for one 2.7 character and I alr have jinng and firefly, and was saving for sunday, but I have E2S1 Bronya and E0S0 Sparkle, should I just get fugue?
What they did to Sparkle will never be forgotten, and never forgiven. Obvious twins favoritism here
"Will eventually have E6 Bronya"
I'm pulling Sunday lightcone for tingyun and bronya, we are not the same 😆
So the TLDR is just pull robin and her LC?
For DHIL is sparkle or sunday better? Or just run both?
Run both.
I normally run Sparkle + Bronya + DHIL, but even with an E6 Sparkle I start to run out of SP by the end of a cycle. Sparkle + Sunday will be totally OP for all hypercarries.
there is a vid comparing e0s1 sunday vs e6s1 sparkle and sunday win but then again u need his lc so tht he can be sp friendly(?)
You can run both. Both need to be at hyperspeed with Sparkle being 1 spd faster than Sunday. If you have to choose one, Sunday is better assuming you have his sig.
@@rafaelrose14My E6S5 Sparkle gives +217% CD from her skill, and 56% CD from her lightcone to everyone in the team.
Giving a 273% CD buff to Sunday... who then gives a percentage of his crit damage as a buff to the hypercarry will be absolutely broken.
Sunday/Robin won't be anywhere near as busted as Sunday/Sparkle.
Can run both but Sunday + Robin is better
Sparkle is def the best support in Honkai Impact 3rd rn.
12:43 obviously his ultimate buff last 3 turns?? Like it's the most obvious thing in his kit.
don't matter, Hoyo's gonna release a new support that have 60% def ignore, 100% def down, gives 5k ATK one patch later before players are able to complete Sunday's build and they are forced to pull for that unit
100% that's why as f2p just pull character that u want
People put way too much value into crit. Crit is easy to build for. We can even pick substats soon!
You can’t build for things like res pen, def ignore, beyond a certain % of dmg boost, etc.
E6 Bronya > Sunday for general buffing (dmg% is so much more valuable than crit.).
E0 Sunday > Both for summoners
E0 Sunday > Both for energy hungry units (Argenti for example)
Sparkle > Both for SP Hungry DPS (DHIL, QQ) and Quantum DPS (SOON TM)
Bronya + Sunday > Sparkle for action advance
Bronya > both for action advancing Robin (and other harmony units)
Bronya and Sunday together >>>>
Also Sunday's LC = Bronya's LC pro max (I'm pulling it for my e6 bronya on HIS rerun)
Edit: I don't plan to pull any summoners unless it's the potential Seele expy or Kevin expy (no idea what they do). I've heard rumours of a nihility meta somewhere down the line. Planning on saving for The Herta and investing in a team for her. Jing Yuan isn't used enough by me to warrant pulling Sunday.
pulled sparkle on last rerun didnt even build her cuz i waited for acheron e2 now i could just pulled sunday and be future proof gonna jump off smth rn
If I can't get his cone, I luckily have a bronya cone s3.
Sunday is taking Sparkle's job... Sparkle had to move to a different game...
sunday being better than sparkle is not the real problem the real shit is sparkle losing against robin on hypercarry comp that shit is a real problem
and not just that she can't maintain the buff if you pair with sunday
Every time I use bronya I always run her with hanya so ima do the same with Sunday
Velt+Bro+Spa+Sun= enemy never turn
i have e6s1 bronya and e0s5ddd sparkle but im still gonna pull for e0s1 sunday. rip my f2p funds🙏😭
I can't believe the best hyper carry supports got power crept by a man /s
Should I wait until Sundays rerun to get him because I’m not really interested into 3.0 nor 3.1 characters
Fugue is going to be better for people who didnt pull ANY summon type characters and is going to make ALL your characters invested viable because of this HP and Toughness super inflation. I think people are sleeping on this and a lot of people are going to regret pulling Sunday instead. Specially when they hinted this by making an Acheron rerun first. She will be the PREFFERED support for C0 Acheron teams hands down. Dont be duped by TH-camrs glazing Sunday if your secondary main team doesn’t have summon based characters. Just a word of warning.
As long as people plan on investing into Remembrance path, Sunday is going to be a safe pull for the foreseeable future. Even ignoring that he will have good synergy with almost any CR/CD character minus Fei Xiao and Acheron.
@ Sure but the issue is that if you dont pull Fugue, most of your past investment is going to shit and if you dont pull him then your future characters who probably are summon characters wont be as good. I’d be safe than sorry. Fugue is better for my account.
@@Mindontcompute Yeah if you want to continue improving your break option then Fugue should be good. I hope you will be happy with her.
@@TOTGodofWar right now and in the future we are likely to continue in HP and toughness inflation. I didnt pulled since robin and didnt pulled robin onwards. I could easily 36 star MOC with 0 issues with all my old lineups. Currently, only 1 team from literally ALL of the cast before robin’s that’d be (Imaginary MC, Gallagher, Ruan Mei and Firefly) is the ONLY team that can tackle this MoC properly because of the lack of proper superbreak support. Every character after that, for example, Feixiao, Jiaoqiu, Lingsha, Yungli, Rappa, Moze are ALL characters tailored specifically for this break damage, break weakness, follow up damage supports and playstyle and if you didnt pull any of those to carry any of your older units, you are cooked for current endgame. Its basically not clearable on 36 stars because there is a power gap that will continue to be there in the future. 1 side of your MoC will suffer the consequences so the only way to bring your old characters forward is to pull Fugue to revitalize your old units since its unlikely they will back down on this. They didnt do it in HI3 and this is certainly what they will continue to do in HSR for the future. They just create an issue and resolve it with a new unit. That is what Fugue is there to do. To patch your current investment of old units by giving them properties of the new lineups by the virtue of inserting her where she is needed as a patch to them. I didint pulled any of the summons meta so Fugue definitely will sustain my investment in old units to ensure I can properly clear endgame. The power creep in this game is becoming real. I i would pull Sunday when I invest in summons meta properly but at least for me, pulling him is a fools errand not having Topaz, lingsha or the General. That’s about it.
@Mindontcompute hmmm Pre-Robin characters. Pretty sure Acheron is usable on both sides, Blade side 1, and Jingliu side 2. Oh and if somebody has E2 IL he should be an option for side 2.
Probably some person out there is using Seele even, but I suspect at that point it is utter brute forcing with limited support ediolons. Still not an idea MoC 12 for her.
Sparkle using Sunday lightcone. There it is chat, absolutely SP positive support
Hear me out. Ultimate based/meme comp with DHIL AND QQ with a Gallagher with high spd and Qpq lmao
@@withgeez is Sunday sig better for sparkle than DDD and her own LC tho?
@@izzme5204not even close she Needs DDD or she’ll lose one turn so it’s a massive falloff otherwise, not to mention she’s already SP+
use sparkle because, a just like having more skill point, and well acheron can just one shot all, with fu xuan. no need sunday, if you have sparkle or bronya, sunday is good, if you have 0 support to buff your main, dps or your jing yuan for sumoner.
sooo e6 bronya is slightly under Sunday?
10:04 feixiao and acheron would disagree
Got E2 Sparkle and lightcone, i will just akip Sunday and get Fugue
is he still better for e2s1 acheron?
heya i have acheron e2s1 firefly e0s0 feixiao e0s1 , so pulling sunday will help my account ? btw i have sparkle robine dont have bronya - jiaoqiu and ruan mei yet , i was thinking to pull sunday for future summon meta characters untill then will he be usable effectively in any of these teams ? or shall i go for firefly lightcone or e1 maybe and wait for jiaoqiu ruanmei and lingsha?
Unless you desperately want in on the summon meta it's completely optional for you to pull Sunday. I have the same teams kinda (E0S1 Acheron, E0S0 FF, E0S1-ish Feixiao and E0S0 Rappa), and I see no reason to pull Sunday at all. If you want to experiment with other break DPS I'd recommend Fugue otherwise you should be set if you have enough sustain, and yeah maybe consider Jiaoqiu tho he's also not necessary at E2 with Sparkle. Ruan Mei is also still worth picking up.
If you change your mind about summon meta I think Sunday will have a decently fast rerun, it's what happened with Robin after all.
I want to run -1 but I hate having to speed tune depending on who i'm using him with....
If Hoyo does this bullshit again, I go f2p. First they did absolute power creep of Loucha, then they made a weak kit for Sparkle scared to power creep Bronya and then absolute power crept both within the same major patch as Sparkle. Power creeping every aspect of a previous premiere character this soon is so beyond ridiculous. I would gladly skip Sunday but I bet summon characters will be useless without him.
I am hardly wrong about these things, as a person who told everybody to pull for Lingsha. especially F2P, don't worry about sunday for summons. Algaea is the meta for summons needs Robin or Jade that is from the official source, they never mention sunday. don't forget Harmony MC they want to move him on towards Remembrance, that is why if you are break team sadly you need Fugue. don't listen to hype about Fugue is set to replace Ruan Mei. (which isn't happening cause skill regain issue)
@@drakehound2244aglaea not needing sunday sounds a bit weird honestly. why would you not want an extra turn for your summon? sorry havent really been through the leaks yet but pretty sure aglaea is for the upcoming summon meta?
@@drakehound2244 Wow, dead wrong on both Sunday and Fugue, that's almost impressive. Fugue can replace anyone aside from the break DPS btw (ideally sustain if possible).
Well according to the dreams…
Leaks below
The next 2 DPS units are HP scaling like blade and work together and actually want to run 2 healers and the teams use Loucha so Bro might be making the ultimate comeback ( Maybe )
Meh Loucha still the most SP positive limited Abundance we have, and the new support set that more recently dropped buffed him.
support light cones come free with the character btw
Honestly I don't care how great Sunday will be, I will not be tricked into pulling for a 3rd bronya. Not to mention I have ruan mei, sparkle, and Robin. Sunday will be great I'm sure but I'll wait until the next truly broken harmony releases.
bruh not even fucking 2.x harmony characters are safe from power creep, lmao. I think the likes of Acheron, feixiao are only going to be relevant for the next few months before they power crept to oblivion.
Lingsha really is a dps
Tbh I don't rlly mind getting Sunday on a rerun but I was thinking
E1 Bronya + Sunday LC.... is it a good idea? I kinda wanna save my pulls for fugue and madam herta and I don't plan on getting either LC, I already have 60 pity on LC banner
Mainly using bronya on e2 Acheron team (Pela instead of jiaoqiu)
Is really the best IDEA Bronya gains more from Sunday LC then Sunday itself, especially at 200% speed (that is 4 activation a cycle) 3 of Bronya activation is used for Skill Regain cause of her basic attack, Sunday Lightcone makes it 100% garanteed that within that cycle you activate your Ultimate and Skill to be net positive. that lightcon of Sunday is BUSTED.
You'll be missing out on the summon meta for quite some time
@@thatokperson so what Harmony MC going to be Remembrance, what if people come playing during 3.0 and want to build a remembrance team cause of summons/pokemons.
so many might may or happen, sunday isn't META period. it isn't that sunday is bad, same reason Rappa isn't bad either. but stop hyping it up that Sunday will the next Ruan Mei cause he won't be. those are mathethical facts. and the way Sunday kit is build and they had to ad helps Summons to tease. so if you like sunday pull for him but Sunday NEEDS his lightcone, but funny enough his light cone is better for Bronya then Sunday.
@@drakehound2244 "mathematical facts", so where is this mathematical facts you're speaking of?
@@drakehound2244 Bro's feels-crafting for Honkshoo Starbucks 3
Easy! You're into summons? Get Sunday.
Sparkle is for Guowan exclusively.
Otherwise you're ok with Bronya.
is there any REAL benefit of using sparkle if sunday exist, is this the end for our crazy lunatic TwT, i have e2s0 sparkle btw
@@vincentpujis8079 she's still best for QQ at least, who needs front loaded SP generation
Hyperspeed is still great, but requires diabolical relics.
@bjornnilsson2941 i mean my sparkle is at 166 speed 216 cdm with the new set already (s5 4 star lc that increase dmg i forgot) 💀
@@vincentpujis8079 Sounds like she still has some room to improve further, but 160 and 200 cd is still a pretty good build.
I have s3 Bronya
Sweet :>
19:06 ahh yes, the out of touch unrelatable streamer I love
Just gonna put sundays lightcone on sparkle tbh
I'm planning to build 160 speed 'sunday' is that good or not?
tbh -1 speed is enough
@@valt4462 I can’t get the new set with some good cd for the life of me so my current 160+ build feels like a lil slap in the face since it feels unnecessary and sad without the cd lol
it's not. you run hyperspeed sparkle bc she has only 50% AA, it's just a shortcut for your dps to act faster. but 100% AA means your DPS gets to act TWICE everytime. running 160 gives your dps 2 turns 1st cycle, -1 gives you 4 turns. you're supposed to build him like bronya, not sparkle.
No, Sungay has low speed base