Not a gamer here but given the choice between this at $1100 or a new M4 Pro Mac Mini at $1399 I'd probably pick the Mac. Or just try to find a new HP Elite Mini 800 G9 13500T for under $500...
Miniforums with these new CPUs are the cheapest. My MINISFORUM 5Ghz ryzen9 32Gb ram and 1Tb NVME, bought at Christmas, cost 760 dollars. They're doing great👍Better than the PS5 Pro🤣😉
Not the case this time, the HX370 is going to be the top of the "mobile" APU stack for a while, and I specify "mobile" because Strix Halo is coming but we have no idea when or in what form, meanwhile in the mobile space none of the Z2E rumors for the Legion Go 2/ROG Ally 2 give any indication of improved performance over the HX370, if anything they're just going to cut down the CPU for the handheld version, so if you want the best mobile chip in a box then this is it.
Tech always gets surpassed by newer tech. Still an excellent mini-PC, but the price won't work for most people when they can get a decent to above average mini-PC for far less. - $720 for M4 Mac Mini. Includes 16 GB of LPDDR5 RAM (7500 Mhz), 512 GB of SSD, a $20 dongle from BaseUS, and the $100 student discount. - $700 for Geekom A8. Ryzen 7 8845HS CPU, 32GB of DDR5 RAM, 1 TB of fast SSD, and all the ports most people need (including SD card reader). - $520 for BeeLink SER7. Ryzen 7 7840HS CPU, 32GB of DDR5 RAM, 1 TB of fast SSD, and a good selection of ports.
By then there will be strix halo mini pcs with insane graphics performance. These are awesome but the cpu is insane compared to the gpu. Just depends on use case. These will be the cheap low gpu options and the halo will be gaming.
@@jadusiv That's kinda my thought. I want to see how Strix Halo performs, I think it's worth waiting for that Ryzen AI MAX or whatever before looking at Mini PCs seriously again.
Yup. They'll just shave some CPU cores off and maybe cut the NPU entirely (or maybe not? Do people want an Ai assistant on the next handheld gaming PC?).
@@Patrick-y4d1z You would be a bit mistaken. Any decent 2 tb ssd costs 100 dollars, these custom RAM chips even more so. Add in a very niche motherboard like this form factor that has to have the newest chipset to support these Ryzen Ai chips, plus all the custom manufacturing done 1100 is not an unjustifiable price. That said, that doesn’t mean it’s cheap, but if you can’t afford it then the product isn’t for you. There are many better price to performance options out there, specially if you build a proper desktop yourself, but this is just a premium mini PC for those who want one.
A little on the pricey side for me and most I think but it's cool to see these new APUs in action. I would like to see the 890M in a desktop chip so I can play with it.
The main reason I started watching your channel was to see what a device could manage on emulation. Like, how far can you push the settings, and what does it manage on the most difficult emulator you can throw at it. I know most PCs are capable of running emulators these days, but I hope you keep showcasing them.
I never knew miniform has A EGPU You should review the product because I never seen other videos about that product. It should be the first TH-camr to review that product.
I’m still using a HP ETA recommended about 2 or 3 years ago with a ryzen 5 3500 and a 1650. Would like to see if he could do an upgrade to that machine
It would be interesting to see how well this would run dedicated Steam OS and more taxing games that are available. That said it would need to be closer to the $6-700 range to even be considered outside of a few special use cases.
For the UK market they currently want £1079, which does not compair that well to the Beelink SER9 for £772 even if there is an extra 2.5Gb port on the Minisforums.
Looking forward to the Bazzite video for this model. These mini PCs are getting very close to the performance, physical size and cost that I am looking for. Does this support eGPUs through USB4 and if so, could that be part of the Bazzite testing?
I would like to see you add streaming to these mini pc reviews. How would they do playing simple games like overwatch, valorant, ect... playing the game and streaming at the same time.
MinisForum...where is the Desktop Graphics Card Option with this APU? No Occulink or motherboard option? You created that market and never did gave us that 7945hx3d mini pc. Please fulfill that portion of the market and take our money!
Please do a video where you use the M.2 NVME port with an Oculink extension / adapter for some eGPU play. What adapter(s) could someone use with some modifications and still make it look somewhat decent?
Mini PCs can hit a certain niche where you don't need/want a full size desktop, want a different small form factor than a laptop with likely some more I/O. I've had a couple useful mini PCs that served as little servers and the like and they've worked pretty well. As far as this in particular? Not sure. I guess if you _REALLY_ want that kind of gaming experience in that form to pay $1000+, the Radeon 890m is good (but not THAT good), I'm waiting on Strix Halo Mini PCs, personally.
This is a desktop PC. You mean a tower case. I would think the answer would be obvious. Size. You can VESA mount these things if you want, with a small caddy. You can put them in all sorts of places and if you don't need the extra grunt of a tower case and the components you put in it, you may as well have this. Similarly, laptops are only worth it if you are going to actually pick them up and use them in different place such as a coffee shop on a regular basis. Otherwise you're paying for very bad peripherals - keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers - to do very little work on a sub standard, overheating machine, and you're still sat at a desk. I can put soup in my mouth with a knife, but I find it much more practical to use a spoon.
Go and see the miraculous tests of the new X3D serie9000 Ryzen 7 and 9 released a few days ago, 74% faster than everyone else and not just in games, it beats Intel and Apple hands down especially in consumption and latency. Not even AMD had done tests like this😎🤣
You should benchmark this against the M4 Mac Mini. (Mac Mini with 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD is the same MSRP as the EliteMiniAi370, but you can get a $300 earlybird discount on the Minisforum.)
How much would it take to build a Ryzen 7900X, 2x16gb ddr5 6000mhz ram, ITX B620, Dan Case A4, SFX 650W PSU, 1tb NVME SSD 5000+ r/w and a Radeon 6700XT? Pretty sure it can obliterate this OEM mini PC by just being slightly bigger/heavier...
No one can make cheap APUs for consumer - it's simply not possible. Powerful APUs are only found inside consoles because of special deals between the companies involved or it's Apple who sells final hardware and recoups the cost by selling other services or charging huge amount of money for ram and storage upgrades.
Hmm, mini PC is amazing for the right user. Very powerful and expensive ones like this is... Kinda hard to justify. If you want to game just get a better value for money, so bigger case, better cooling, etc. But if you want to do office and productivity, get cheaper, mid performance mini PC attached behind a VESA mount and done. Only if you work in a editing studio or anything performance intensive YET you have absolutely no space and hate MacOS then these high performant mini-PC makes sense. Expensive yes, but at least it runs Windows. I guess?
Seems like they're trying to play catch-up with the SER9 except the BIOS is this is very restrictive and will not allow overclocking like boosting the RAM to 8000. The same idiotic inability to upgrade RAM as Ser9. This one is louder, hotter, more expenive and, with no overclocking, slower.Only One USB-C port. Sounds like a great deal compared to the SER9. Sign me up because I would like to have a poorer performing system for more money..
So this vs the Minisforum MS-A1 for ~300 where I can decide on which AM5 APU (if they do a BIOS update in 2025) goes in there and choose the RAM and SSD manufacturer >.< - hard sell.
Pretty sure that's $260 for just the chassis, no RAM or SSD, so if anything the price is a hard sell on the AM5 MiniPC. It is a very attractive chassis though if you know you're not using a dedicated GPU.
I bought barebone miniPC with 7840HS for 390USD. So, let say it cost me 500sud with the same amount of RAM and storage. How you go to 1100USD price from that while not giving double performance. They are selling those miniPC with 7945HX (16 cores monster) and discreet GPU RX 7600M XT for just 100USD more (same RAM and storage) or barebone for less!!
If you watch the phawx's presentation; lowering the GPU to around 2200mhz and limiting to 30 watts nets the around the same performance on this chip with 7500 MHz RAM...not worth unlocking/running at 50+ watts
Except this has twice the RAM and 4 times the SSD space. And you can run software on it. And you are in control. And the power button is somewhere you can press it. And it has two ethernet ports, both of which are faster, DP and HDMI not just one, Type A ports and you can upgrade it. They're completely different machines in completely different segments, just because Apple have copied the mini-PC form factor, doesn't mean they're making good machines in comparison.
Over $1000 "on sale" vs $599 for the new Apple Mac Mini for $599, I'll let the consumer decide, but for the price I should hope it performs as it does :(
A 32GB windows machines will not perform better than a 16GB mac, why still so many people never use both platform and always think 32GB must be better? Windows eats more ram that’s why they need more ram than mac, otherwise they can’t run properly. Of course 1TB ssd is always better than 256GB, if you want to save some money on mac, use an external usb4 ssd is a good choice, there are 3 usb4 ports in mac mini, it is very easy to set up.
Guys I want a mini pc to play all kinhsnk 12tb games and probably Elden ring or stray im picking which one to buy the asus nuc pro 14 ultra or gmktec pro intel core i7 or geekon xt12 pro mini or the bee link ser8 ryzen 7
Such a shame that AMD charges twice the price of previous APU for manufacturers to buy their Ryzen AI chips, while Minisforum decided to not include an oculink port for a much better eGPU performance than with a USB 4.0 port, which makes 2 good reasons to skip this expensive hardware and go for a laptop like Asus TUF A16 which has the same APU but coupled with up to RTX 4070 for around the same weight...
It's impressive but the iGPU is constantly between 95% and 100%. Basically no leeway. Still, it will probably be a good choice... in a few months and/or the next sale, when they'll slash the price by 30% or more.
Nah, it can't be, I'm pretty sure I already saw the video for the most powerful amd igpu in a mini PC in this channel before, and before that too, and before that too again...
I think we are close to getting game consoles that are actually PCs for the average price of a console. Granted this is more expensive at the moment, but give it a year and let AI and drivers catch up. The Playstation 5 Pro comes in at 799 and if that is the budget to beat, we can really start arguing if a (Small) PC like this wouldn't make more sense given all the other benefits a PC has. So that means waiting until we get a 600 dollar mini-pc that can beat a Playstation on their own game using frame-gen or whatever. Then we maybe can say goodbye to consoles, finally.
12:20 22% Ram used at presumably idle with just Task Manager? So its really not 32GB it is more like max of 24GB. And there is no upgrade on their site for 64GB. Can you try installing Linux on it for comparison? I mean it would be an overpriced Linux box for what you get. Still, not having pre-installed Win11+Co-Pilot would make it a bit better... :) Also your 'Learn more here ' link... Ublock Origin really doesn't like for trackers.
Wait, so unlike Beelink's less expensive mini PC with the same Ai370 chip you can't overclock this one (save for the "performance" power limit mode)? That's an instant dealbreaker given that the Beelink gains quite significant performance through BIOS enabled overclocking, especially in gaming. Shame, because I've bought several different Minisforum products over the years and would have liked to continue. Great build quality and decent prices as long as you wait a few months after launch. Launch prices are never great.
I'm looking at the Beelink SER9 too. For the SER9, I don't want Windows 11, the stupid speakers, the stupid microphone, or the included 1TB m.2 stick. I wish it was more bare bones. This Minisforum misses on price, but it's outfitted closer to what I want. The Souyo s9 was supposed to be out last month. Maybe they can step up and compete a little better.
$1100 for a mini PC is insane
A bit cheaper than a MAC Studio still.
Way too much
I would consider mac mini with m4 instead
Not a gamer here but given the choice between this at $1100 or a new M4 Pro Mac Mini at $1399 I'd probably pick the Mac. Or just try to find a new HP Elite Mini 800 G9 13500T for under $500...
Miniforums with these new CPUs are the cheapest.
My MINISFORUM 5Ghz ryzen9 32Gb ram and 1Tb NVME, bought at Christmas, cost 760 dollars. They're doing great👍Better than the PS5 Pro🤣😉
Even more expensive that the Beelink SER9 with the same APU, wtf!
And the beelink is better (temps & noise)
ETA Prime: EliteMini Ai370 First Look, The Most Powerful AMD iGPU In A Mini PC!
Audience: Yeah... until the next one a week from now.
redundancy the channel:
Not the case this time, the HX370 is going to be the top of the "mobile" APU stack for a while, and I specify "mobile" because Strix Halo is coming but we have no idea when or in what form, meanwhile in the mobile space none of the Z2E rumors for the Legion Go 2/ROG Ally 2 give any indication of improved performance over the HX370, if anything they're just going to cut down the CPU for the handheld version, so if you want the best mobile chip in a box then this is it.
Ryzen AI Max is on it's way, any week now. It's silly to title it like this right now, when we all know the best is yet to come.
Tech always gets surpassed by newer tech. Still an excellent mini-PC, but the price won't work for most people when they can get a decent to above average mini-PC for far less.
- $720 for M4 Mac Mini. Includes 16 GB of LPDDR5 RAM (7500 Mhz), 512 GB of SSD, a $20 dongle from BaseUS, and the $100 student discount.
- $700 for Geekom A8. Ryzen 7 8845HS CPU, 32GB of DDR5 RAM, 1 TB of fast SSD, and all the ports most people need (including SD card reader).
- $520 for BeeLink SER7. Ryzen 7 7840HS CPU, 32GB of DDR5 RAM, 1 TB of fast SSD, and a good selection of ports.
Upscaling and Gen frame are truly game changer
Playing AAA on a mini pc with no graphic card is insane
1400 bucks ? That weed is insane !
$1,100 earlybird but yes that is steep when the Beelink is $1,000.
And it's going to be obsolete in a month or 2.
Not at all worth the $1100 early adopter cost. Maybe in 18-24 months this sort of power in a mini PC will be more reasonable.
By then there will be strix halo mini pcs with insane graphics performance. These are awesome but the cpu is insane compared to the gpu. Just depends on use case. These will be the cheap low gpu options and the halo will be gaming.
@@jadusiv That's kinda my thought. I want to see how Strix Halo performs, I think it's worth waiting for that Ryzen AI MAX or whatever before looking at Mini PCs seriously again.
I would buy it for 700-900 € depending on what else is on the market , hopefully next year... Fingers crossed 🤞
I hope there are more mini PC's and handhelds with the HX 370. This CPU is amazing.
I feel like this is what we are going to see performance wise in the next handheld PCs
Yup.
They'll just shave some CPU cores off and maybe cut the NPU entirely (or maybe not? Do people want an Ai assistant on the next handheld gaming PC?).
+~300% of the price for ~%20 of performance compared to 780m. That's insane.
An Ayaneo rep said already on discord that these chips cost them over double than those coming with the 780m, this is why they’re so expensive.
@@Sumire9287
No it's not. Even if the chips were triple the price, the rest of the components are not triple the price.
@@Patrick-y4d1z so you don't want em to make money then huh
Everyone chill, pricing is ultimately based on demand. If no one buys these they will come down in price until people buy them.
@@Patrick-y4d1z You would be a bit mistaken. Any decent 2 tb ssd costs 100 dollars, these custom RAM chips even more so. Add in a very niche motherboard like this form factor that has to have the newest chipset to support these Ryzen Ai chips, plus all the custom manufacturing done 1100 is not an unjustifiable price. That said, that doesn’t mean it’s cheap, but if you can’t afford it then the product isn’t for you. There are many better price to performance options out there, specially if you build a proper desktop yourself, but this is just a premium mini PC for those who want one.
The Beelink SER9 (same config) is actually cheaper.
A little on the pricey side for me and most I think but it's cool to see these new APUs in action. I would like to see the 890M in a desktop chip so I can play with it.
never skipping disliking an eta prime video
??? Explain.
The main reason I started watching your channel was to see what a device could manage on emulation. Like, how far can you push the settings, and what does it manage on the most difficult emulator you can throw at it. I know most PCs are capable of running emulators these days, but I hope you keep showcasing them.
I never knew miniform has A EGPU You should review the product because I never seen other videos about that product. It should be the first TH-camr to review that product.
The price is a showstopper.
Absolutely insane price you would have to be mental to buy that over a full pc
Mini PC performance has come a long way !
I’m still using a HP ETA recommended about 2 or 3 years ago with a ryzen 5 3500 and a 1650. Would like to see if he could do an upgrade to that machine
It would be interesting to see how well this would run dedicated Steam OS and more taxing games that are available. That said it would need to be closer to the $6-700 range to even be considered outside of a few special use cases.
Always enjoy your videos. It might be cool to see a video where you test out link aggregation on one of these mini pcs that have two 2.5 Gbe ports.
For the UK market they currently want £1079, which does not compair that well to the Beelink SER9 for £772 even if there is an extra 2.5Gb port on the Minisforums.
@@rogerthomas7040 ser9 for 772? where?
Looking forward to the Bazzite video for this model.
These mini PCs are getting very close to the performance, physical size and cost that I am looking for.
Does this support eGPUs through USB4 and if so, could that be part of the Bazzite testing?
Their site says the USB4 supports eGPU, ssd, and... VR headsets.
I would like to see you add streaming to these mini pc reviews. How would they do playing simple games like overwatch, valorant, ect... playing the game and streaming at the same time.
MinisForum...where is the Desktop Graphics Card Option with this APU? No Occulink or motherboard option? You created that market and never did gave us that 7945hx3d mini pc. Please fulfill that portion of the market and take our money!
Please do a video where you use the M.2 NVME port with an Oculink extension / adapter for some eGPU play. What adapter(s) could someone use with some modifications and still make it look somewhat decent?
No Oculink = No party... period.
definitely better than the Beelink SER9. The SER9 only comes with wifi 6 and only 2 USB 3 ports for the same price.
Looking forward to seeing this same APU in the GPD pocket 4. Gonna be expensive as all hell but I'm already saving my pennies :P
energy consumption for me is more about could it handle offgrid use then what does it cost ...
Hope they will put this kind of apu into handheld
Does this mean they no longer support one usbc cable to power the device like the other ones?
Who is this for and why would you buy this over a laptop or desktop?
I would also like to know what the use case is.
Mini PCs can hit a certain niche where you don't need/want a full size desktop, want a different small form factor than a laptop with likely some more I/O. I've had a couple useful mini PCs that served as little servers and the like and they've worked pretty well.
As far as this in particular? Not sure. I guess if you _REALLY_ want that kind of gaming experience in that form to pay $1000+, the Radeon 890m is good (but not THAT good), I'm waiting on Strix Halo Mini PCs, personally.
This is a desktop PC. You mean a tower case. I would think the answer would be obvious. Size. You can VESA mount these things if you want, with a small caddy. You can put them in all sorts of places and if you don't need the extra grunt of a tower case and the components you put in it, you may as well have this. Similarly, laptops are only worth it if you are going to actually pick them up and use them in different place such as a coffee shop on a regular basis. Otherwise you're paying for very bad peripherals - keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers - to do very little work on a sub standard, overheating machine, and you're still sat at a desk.
I can put soup in my mouth with a knife, but I find it much more practical to use a spoon.
I can pretty well guarantee equivalent spec in a laptop is going to cost a lot more money.
How is Mini Forum EliteMini Ai370 compare with Beelink Ser9? Love to see comparison
Go and see the miraculous tests of the new X3D serie9000 Ryzen 7 and 9 released a few days ago, 74% faster than everyone else and not just in games, it beats Intel and Apple hands down especially in consumption and latency. Not even AMD had done tests like this😎🤣
would like to see how the NPU perform, like running small llm locally.
Is the chassis made of plastic or metal?
Connect a few together and spread a LLM over the stack - I'd like to see that
You should benchmark this against the M4 Mac Mini.
(Mac Mini with 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD is the same MSRP as the EliteMiniAi370, but you can get a $300 earlybird discount on the Minisforum.)
Heres another episode of 'the most powerful'
New sound setup? Getting some distortions. Getting room echo.
How much would it take to build a Ryzen 7900X, 2x16gb ddr5 6000mhz ram, ITX B620, Dan Case A4, SFX 650W PSU, 1tb NVME SSD 5000+ r/w and a Radeon 6700XT? Pretty sure it can obliterate this OEM mini PC by just being slightly bigger/heavier...
cool ad dude
If they’d included oculink I’d have been tempted
No one can make cheap APUs for consumer - it's simply not possible.
Powerful APUs are only found inside consoles because of special deals between the companies involved or it's Apple who sells final hardware and recoups the cost by selling other services or charging huge amount of money for ram and storage upgrades.
You have to give it Minisforum on their products
I would have liked to see some high end emulation in the tests
Tbh, I would like to know a MMORPG run on 890M. These game are never tested. I wonder if Throne and Liberty is playable now with AFMF2 on 890M.
can it be powered via a usb c monitor ? one cable operation is a must !
Hmm, mini PC is amazing for the right user. Very powerful and expensive ones like this is... Kinda hard to justify. If you want to game just get a better value for money, so bigger case, better cooling, etc. But if you want to do office and productivity, get cheaper, mid performance mini PC attached behind a VESA mount and done.
Only if you work in a editing studio or anything performance intensive YET you have absolutely no space and hate MacOS then these high performant mini-PC makes sense. Expensive yes, but at least it runs Windows. I guess?
I want to see it run Dragon's Dogma 2!
Seems like they're trying to play catch-up with the SER9 except the BIOS is this is very restrictive and will not allow overclocking like boosting the RAM to 8000. The same idiotic inability to upgrade RAM as Ser9. This one is louder, hotter, more expenive and, with no overclocking, slower.Only One USB-C port. Sounds like a great deal compared to the SER9. Sign me up because I would like to have a poorer performing system for more money..
Can’t believe I’m going to say it, but the Mac mini’s are a better bang for the bucks. If only game developers would add support for MacOS
Mac Mini starts at $599. I wonder if it’s worth it compared to this mini pc?
So this vs the Minisforum MS-A1 for ~300 where I can decide on which AM5 APU (if they do a BIOS update in 2025) goes in there and choose the RAM and SSD manufacturer >.< - hard sell.
Pretty sure that's $260 for just the chassis, no RAM or SSD, so if anything the price is a hard sell on the AM5 MiniPC.
It is a very attractive chassis though if you know you're not using a dedicated GPU.
@@budthecyborg4575 I mean, even with CPU, RAM and SSD there should be a difference of 300. Though MS-A1s USB amount I/O isn't the best.
Can't we see 1440p surely be able to run that now?
In older games yes, I would like to see e.g. Skyrim benchmarked on modern systems.
in general is this faster than their G7 Pt machine?
I bought barebone miniPC with 7840HS for 390USD. So, let say it cost me 500sud with the same amount of RAM and storage.
How you go to 1100USD price from that while not giving double performance.
They are selling those miniPC with 7945HX (16 cores monster) and discreet GPU RX 7600M XT for just 100USD more (same RAM and storage) or barebone for less!!
Hopefully they release a 64GB ram version. 32G is just not enough for a Proxmox server.
lets see it with the egpu plugged into the usb4 port please
Seems like new mac mini overall give better quality for similiar price.
Steam should make a steam machine from this chip! Or use the new strix halo chip coming out soon
No oculink, dual Thunberolt 4 either? With all of those lanes available to it, and power... What a waste. usually Minisforum is great for IO.
what are the bios and boot selection keys?
bios is F2
couldn't find the boot selection menu key
Gtx 1070 level is taken by iGPU. But price..
Emulation Tests please 😁🥺
He's stopped doing normal stuff for normal people
If you watch the phawx's presentation; lowering the GPU to around 2200mhz and limiting to 30 watts nets the around the same performance on this chip with 7500 MHz RAM...not worth unlocking/running at 50+ watts
Does it support USB4 E-GPU?
Still looking forward to the rog ally x Monster hunter beta test from u
The new mac mini being half the price of this is insane 💀😂
Except this has twice the RAM and 4 times the SSD space. And you can run software on it. And you are in control. And the power button is somewhere you can press it. And it has two ethernet ports, both of which are faster, DP and HDMI not just one, Type A ports and you can upgrade it. They're completely different machines in completely different segments, just because Apple have copied the mini-PC form factor, doesn't mean they're making good machines in comparison.
Ok Mac mini m4 or this one?
can it edit 4k video..tq
M4 mac mini replaces M2 version with same price, HX370 replaces 8945HS with nearly double price…
This one would be awesome, but for half the price.
Over $1000 "on sale" vs $599 for the new Apple Mac Mini for $599, I'll let the consumer decide, but for the price I should hope it performs as it does :(
Just spec the Mac mini the same as this. With 32GB ram and 1TB SSD, then the Minisforum clearly wins.
Then the only question is Mac or Windows. Again.
@@TheChriss1301 gaming is still best on Windows unfortunately. If not i would go for Mac
Mac Mini with 1TB and 32GB RAM is exactly the same price MSRP, so the HX370 is more powerful and $300 cheaper with the earlybird discount right now.
Or get the Beelink SER9 and it's $400 cheaper.
A 32GB windows machines will not perform better than a 16GB mac, why still so many people never use both platform and always think 32GB must be better? Windows eats more ram that’s why they need more ram than mac, otherwise they can’t run properly. Of course 1TB ssd is always better than 256GB, if you want to save some money on mac, use an external usb4 ssd is a good choice, there are 3 usb4 ports in mac mini, it is very easy to set up.
Guys I want a mini pc to play all kinhsnk 12tb games and probably Elden ring or stray im picking which one to buy the asus nuc pro 14 ultra or gmktec pro intel core i7 or geekon xt12 pro mini or the bee link ser8 ryzen 7
01:20 Aren't icons for mic and earphones on case exchanged?
The left one is a reset button
It's not an earphone icon, it's an arrow in St Louis arch style
@@Wannes_ Thanks, now I see it. Jack 3,5mm is maybe combo?
@@peteblazar5515 Likely combo, as it has mic & Ω signs
Why don't you include Pro Evolution Soccer with reviews cause it's widely played game?
No oculink?
Such a shame that AMD charges twice the price of previous APU for manufacturers to buy their Ryzen AI chips, while Minisforum decided to not include an oculink port for a much better eGPU performance than with a USB 4.0 port, which makes 2 good reasons to skip this expensive hardware and go for a laptop like Asus TUF A16 which has the same APU but coupled with up to RTX 4070 for around the same weight...
It lost me at no oculink hopefully they add it to another model then i want one.
It's impressive but the iGPU is constantly between 95% and 100%. Basically no leeway.
Still, it will probably be a good choice... in a few months and/or the next sale, when they'll slash the price by 30% or more.
an 12/24 apu with graphics of a 1650 is impressive until you see the price lmao
Nah, it can't be, I'm pretty sure I already saw the video for the most powerful amd igpu in a mini PC in this channel before, and before that too, and before that too again...
Isn't it called progress, or would you prefer stagnation?
Reviews say the new Intel Ultra 200 series are more efficient and more powerful than HX370
The problem with iGPU is memory. Let me guess, next year Amd will integrate RAM into ryzen ai 300 and call it ryzen AI 400.
I'm here too.
Review mac mini m4 pls
Power button is not on the bottom at least 😀
You didn't say 'Bazzite' in this video
I think we are close to getting game consoles that are actually PCs for the average price of a console. Granted this is more expensive at the moment, but give it a year and let AI and drivers catch up. The Playstation 5 Pro comes in at 799 and if that is the budget to beat, we can really start arguing if a (Small) PC like this wouldn't make more sense given all the other benefits a PC has. So that means waiting until we get a 600 dollar mini-pc that can beat a Playstation on their own game using frame-gen or whatever. Then we maybe can say goodbye to consoles, finally.
WHY NO 64GB ram option:(
The evolution of miniPCs is incredible as is their price .unfortunately !!!
A brand new M4 Mac Mini is cheaper.. never thought I would see the day.
@@lindsay1971 Config the Mac mini with the same 32GB ram and 1TB SSD and its more expensive!
No it's not. The M4 Mac Mini with 1TB SSD and 32GB RAM is $1,400.
12:20 22% Ram used at presumably idle with just Task Manager? So its really not 32GB it is more like max of 24GB. And there is no upgrade on their site for 64GB. Can you try installing Linux on it for comparison? I mean it would be an overpriced Linux box for what you get. Still, not having pre-installed Win11+Co-Pilot would make it a bit better... :)
Also your 'Learn more here ' link... Ublock Origin really doesn't like for trackers.
Most of us aren't wealthy mini pc enthusiasts. That's ridiculously overpriced.
Wait, so unlike Beelink's less expensive mini PC with the same Ai370 chip you can't overclock this one (save for the "performance" power limit mode)? That's an instant dealbreaker given that the Beelink gains quite significant performance through BIOS enabled overclocking, especially in gaming. Shame, because I've bought several different Minisforum products over the years and would have liked to continue. Great build quality and decent prices as long as you wait a few months after launch. Launch prices are never great.
I'm looking at the Beelink SER9 too. For the SER9, I don't want Windows 11, the stupid speakers, the stupid microphone, or the included 1TB m.2 stick. I wish it was more bare bones. This Minisforum misses on price, but it's outfitted closer to what I want. The Souyo s9 was supposed to be out last month. Maybe they can step up and compete a little better.
For that price I would rather get a laptop with that AMD chip and connect it to my TV.
Those will be more expensive, probably by a lot.
but will it run gta6 at 720p at least? 😋
For 100.00 more get the g7 with 4070 graphics 🥺
Do a video running emulators