Grand Seiko SNOWFLAKE Spring Drive SBGA211 - Still The Best?
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Titanium is so great, you forget the you have a watch on your wrist. I don’t understand why so many need a hefty watch. In fact my Sinn is much too heavy and I find it rather annoying
There’s definitely a place for titanium, just not for me. I love the heft. I like that constant reminder of the watch. I can understand the opposite too though!
Everyone should wear what they love! Some people like to carry bricks :)
This is how people are "programmed".
Premium car manufacturers had to add an option for artificial engine noise to their EV cars because people have been conditioned into thinking noisy engine means more power.
Same with vacuum cleaners. Manufacturers COULD make them more quiet but double blind test reported that people prefer the noisier model because they are perceived as more powerful and better at cleaning!
When I picked up my SBGA241 (it's basically the Snowflake with black dial) next to a SBGE211, I was immediately sold on the Titanium because I KNOW for a fact that Titanium IS better and lighter IS more practical. I have not been conditioned because that my first luxury watch... But some people are.
Heck! Some people even think Spring Drive is inferior because it has Quartz in it. That's the way people are.
Even after getting the White Birch, the 241 is still my "go to" because it's just feels SO MUCH nicer. Jesus Christ, it's on another level when you put it on a MN strap! You just can't feel it at all.
@@BatCountryAdventures All of that is true. I love the detail you put into your comment! But I just don't like light watches. It's just down to that for me. I don't change my perception based on the statistics. Sometimes the simpler solution is just better subjectively. Also I find SS superior from a user perspective. It's more scratch resistant and has more luster. SS also has double the Young's modulus of Ti.
@@StandardTime I am not trying to change your perception. I was just describing how some people's perceptions are "trained" into finding things desirable even when people normally find noise or weight unpleasant.
Even as a Structural Engineer, my normal love for Young's Modulus (and tensile strength) is something I would definitely sacrifice for comfort. The spring bar or my wrist will break long before I am anywhere near the yield strength of titanium. So I don't care if SS has double the Young's Modulus. :D
Apart from the lightness, the thermal conductivity of titanium is another thing that makes the strap feels invisible. SS warms to your temperature and dissipate heat slower so when you first put it on and as your body temperature changes throughout the day, it just feels like its there.
I have the SS White Birch and the Titanium SBGA241 and have worn them both for weeks. Both have hairline scratches so I wouldn't say one is superior to the other in terms of hardness (most modern titanium are treated for better scratch resistance anyway).
Luster... When you have the Zaratsu finish, the brushed surface just doesn't really matter that much.
All the benefits of SS are paid for in discomforts for diminishing returns.
I mean I love the White Birch and I love my MM300 but their weights are kind of a hindrance for when I am doing something.
Such a great watch-a true grail. That dial is a conversation piece for sure.
True ☝️
Only if you initiate the conversation 😂
Awesome to see you guys back... it’s been a while, yet another awesome video, keep up the great work
It’s awesome to see your comment as well mate! Thanks
Listen and Listen Well. The Titanium will certainly grow on you. This watch is Unbelievably Comfortable! The light weight corresponds with its name you know "SNOWFLAKE" Under $6000 Is Crazy for this watch!
Good value and great comfort, but tactility is probably equally as important as aesthetics for me. I’m a sucker for a watch that’s heavier than it seems. Titanium just isn’t for everybody I guess. I bet if they made a steel version it would cost less too!
I find it funny that people think titanium is cheaper when it’s so much more expensive to work with!
Very well aware of that. Doesn’t change how things feel. To me, that was a missed opportunity to reduce the cost of the watch.
If you want a heafty every day watch, get a Submariner. For everyday office wear , get the Snowflake.
Your name makes me think you’re AI 😂. Still I concede with your point 👍
@@StandardTime You're right about the feel. But again its Titanium. And you're right, the clasp could be better. So for me it stays in the realm of dress watches. As far as quality goes , it blows a Rolex out and is even more apparent under a microscope. And nearly no maintenance.
And for those of us who aren’t sheep and wouldn’t be seen dead wearing a Rolex, the Seamaster Diver300m is the obvious choice.
I don’t understand why people don’t understand o accept a new technology ! Previously there was manual winding watches , then came automatic , then came quartz ( I don’t like it personally due to battery replacement ) then came spring drive , which basically an automatic with quartz assist, no battery needed. So what’s the harm in accepting the new technology ? In fact it is much more accurate ! Rolex or any other movement doesn’t comes close ! We should shed this brand locality thing and appreciate the new technology.
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I guess it’s because most watch enthusiasts today were born pre-quartz.
I wonder how much will it cost if it is a Swiss Made. Perhaps another RM legendary.
Thanks for the honest review. You're the first person I've seen that mentioned the weight, or the lack of weight on the watch. I personally like a watch with some weight to it. I've been lusting over this watch but I think I would be kind of disappointed with the lightness of it.
Is there another GS in a similar price range that's stainless steel?
Thanks mate. Perhaps something like the SBGE255. I kind of like the older SBGM221 but it's marmite.
@@StandardTime Thanks man. That's a good looking watch, if only it had spring drive. I'll look more into it.
You might like the Skyflake.
The Swiss Watch industry has no answer to GSs level of detail and finish below 10k. They cannot since al those watches they produce are mass produced machined watches. Very little innovation and lots of hype.
💯 on this ☝️. There are some independents that can match but they would price at min 3X.
There are many many fine Swiss watches under 10k, only a blind fanboy would think otherwise.
@@Jabber-ig3iw not with the same detail and finish, though. The Swiss are sitting on their branding. German watches are better. Only a swiss fanboy would think otherwise.
Titanium is more expensive than steel and much better this is a beautiful watch
Sure but it doesn’t feel nice at all.
Just bought one and love it!
Are you still in love with it 5 months on?
@@hugostiglitz4777 Still love it but wish there was more weight on the bracelet. It's my everyday timepiece the dial is really great which I adore.
Still the best white dial on the market
Most certainly. I wonder what more can be done to make a better white dial...
Great summary. QQ What's your wrist size? Regards!
Thanks. 7.25 inches.
Not to be a jerk, but you really should clip those fingernails
Ahah yeah I realised too late.
Bulova have had that smoothness a lot longer than GS.
But they're only Mecha quartz and don't use a mechanical power source
What do you think of the White Birch?
I love it! I find it to be absolutely spectacular, but wayy too expensive. Prefer that dial to the snowflake any day! Hopefully it undergoes some depreciation over the next two years ahah.
Brilliant!!
Why not change the strap?🎃
More than swiss watches
As in better than Swiss or?
@@StandardTime mean ?
What is more than Swiss watches?
@@StandardTime it means that seiko and all seiko sub branches like credor grand presage etc are better than swiss watches like rolex omega etc
The Snowflake isn’t and never was the Flagship GS. It’s just the one that people went mad for.
What would you pick as a Flagship? I think the snowflake has to be it.
@@StandardTime Agreed. I do love the White Birch and the Four Seasons - pink in particular, but it is their most famous watch, both iterations.
I cannot see any other model as their flagship.
It’s pretty stupid to not like a watch because it’s light so you think it’s cheap. That means it’s more comfortable to wear and you know how much it costs. Absurd
I like heavier watches. I don’t think the watch is cheap. The construction certainly doesn’t feel as solid as a heavier watch even though titanium is stronger than steel by mass. I find lighter watches more of an annoyance on my wrist. I like the presence.
@@StandardTime how does that even make sense. The light watch is more of an annoyance? That’s like saying a heavier backpack is less annoying because you like presence. Each to their own but it doesn’t make sense to me. I have a big breitling and a 44mm planet ocean and the heft is okay but for an easy daily wear watch a 41mm titanium watch will be more leisurely
It doesn’t have to make sense, it’s very subjective. If I start to not notice a watch due to its lightness, I forget that I am wearing it and am not conscious of its position on my wrist. It’s usually under long sleeves for me so it’s not so obvious until it locates itself in an uncomfortable position. Another factor is I literally never look at it because I forget it’s there under the sleeve.
Still the benchmark for white dials ;)
Absolutely!
midtown madness. if you know you know
7:50 Tokyo stripes? 😉😄.
I actually read that! But I thought no way is that accurate ahah!
If swiss make this they will make it about $20 to 30k price lol thnx to japan
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3:08 NO ITS NOT
Si.
Trim your fingernails. Or get a manicure.
Check out the Grand Seiko SBGA407 Blue Snowflake with a stainless steel case.