Ronaldo is considered kind of a flop in the Champions League. He was brought in to win it for them and achieve that last step towards the trophy. Instead, he has not led them to pass the Quarters. I know he can't carry a whole team now on his own but still...they paid 100 million plus cash for someone to let them win more not less...now they will lose Serie A and haven't won except a simple trophy against Napoli this year
@@myname1552 juve hasn't done shit in the UCL in years. It's not just down to cr7. Plus their mgr is even less experienced lampard. Pirlo had 0 experience when he got hired
@@RasenRendanX they have reached 2 finals WITHOUT Ron. It was expected they would make a step forward and actually WIN the final but they haven't even reached Semis
He’s old. It happens. Whenever Ronaldo plays, he will be one of the best out there, but you can’t play forever. Messi and Ronaldo are only a few years off retirement, so trying to blame solely them for a teams success and failure isn’t fair.
Nah with the way some players play today.. Both zlatan and CR7 will be past 40 when they retire and their dip in quality will be minimal.. I think messi will retire first but he still has good years in him
@@snow5064 Ronaldo and Zlatan are slaves to physical perfection. We’re talking yoga, ballet, taekwondo, a refined sugar and red meat free diet. 5 hours a day doing low weight high repetition gym sessions. No one in the history of sport have put this much effort into attaining and sustaining physical ability as those two.
@@lucasdunn1147 Wrong. 2010 England squad was just Poor. Defending was atrocious, shambolic. They’re lucky to have gotten out of the group stage, honestly more painful than 2014.
Just because you're embarrassing yourself does not mean you can't criticise others for being embarrassing. But don't get me wrong CR7's time at Juve has been far from poor, man has carried a bang average team.
eh, no? Agreed, Ronaldo at Juventus hasn't at all been bad, but then he needs to step up in important games like Napoli, Lazio, Inter, ACM & Porto. If not by scoring, then at least by helping the team in the build-up, with creative moments and some playmaking. But Ronaldo does neither of that, he's just a goalscorer which might not suffice for Juve's purpose. As in there are so many bright Juve youngsters like Chiesa, Kulusevski & McKennie who can create and pose a threat to the goal, so perhaps their progress is being stalled by Ronaldo's omnipresence. Just my view tho.
I agree but i think you may be forgetting the times where ronaldo was the only good player for a struggling juventus. And maybe the young players that are now flourishing because they have CHRISTIANO RONALDO in the dressing room. World stars like him improve teams just by being around him. These young players would have grown up idolising him. So he has done so much than just score a ton of goals(which is an achievement on its own).
@@aidanb9671 did you see the vid on hitc 7 which looked at the clubs who's entire wage bill is lower than messi's "reported" wage? Apparently it's over 2.1m euro a week. Ronaldo's only 500k at that price maybe messi should be performing 4 times better than Ronaldo haha
@@dhruvmaslekar Lol exactly.These two have set the bar so high for themselves that they are deemed as 'flop' even though they are still better than most other footballers at their worst.People have too high expectations from them despite them being in the twilight of their careers.
@@ashishmehta8342 I can imagine the psychological toll on these players from getting hate just for performing below their usual standards which would be deemed incredible for other normal players.
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@@mosaeed5744 it’s truly unfair for both Messi and Ronaldo because they are both game winners, when they don’t show up suddenly the teammates who missed open goals (juve vs Porto) and ones that miss one on ones (Liverpool 4-0 Barca) aren’t to blame.
@@arthur0023 I mean, maybe, his huge Character(the power he gained because of his incredible achievments) disturbed other team members and crashed team balance. But there is no evidence or sth so youre right
stupid ronaldo fans keep tryna make it seem like messi played had yesterday when he was the best on the field with navas. They call messi a choker than watch ronaldo against porto and got in there feelings now there taking it out on messi
@@thebarcaboardroom406 Your also kinda stupid because ronaldo bottled against porto but scored all except three of juventus's goals in knockouts since joining them.
@@mahiramahzabeen8924 but than his fans call messi a choker when he does the same against those level of teams. But barca actually WIN those games. They beat lyon, and napoli. But the narrative is ronaldo "put up a fight" and messi "choked". On top of that all the trash ronaldo fans talked after the first leg against psg
does anybody remember that at the beginning of the season messi had the same problem eventually a player will play terrible look at the team around messi and around ronaldo both are a team with good players koeman is a good manager but come on pirlo is far from good at least koeman did very well with the dutch national team.
@Harvey White but at that time benzema was there to track and do everything ronaldo didn't want to...this is why he's better now cause he doesn't have to do all that
@@tkay25 Like Messi didn’t have Suarez, Neymar, Rakitic, Alba, Ter Stegen, etc. Both sides used to be absolutely perfect, don’t act like Messi had a worse team
@@alexbeck8568 that's not at all what I'm saying I'm just saying I hate ppl who say ronaldo carried real madrid to ucl titles...he did not.He had the best player in every single position I even forgot navas...I'm just saying y'all should use the same criticism you give messi to CR .I'm actually a real admirer of both and I hate these new guys haaland and mbappe who'll prolly pass their goal tallies even tho messi and ronaldo are better than them
yeah for me this was a crazier appointment than Lampard, I know Pirlo is a legend but he really needed to be a coach or a manager for a while in order to even consider appointing him... I think they took what they had under Sarri for granted and look at them now lol
@@champeone7061 And he did okay all things considered in season one despite the challenges. At least Lamps had experience, albeit Championship, so slightly different from Pirlo. We don't talk about THIS season however...
@@guguy00 at his first season in championship and his first season at chelsea was very good. Your man pirlo cant even top the table of a farmers league
So ronaldo from 33 to 36 getting 28 goals then 38 (31 in the league)then 20 so far is a flop not to mention he scored in 11 consecutive games scored a hatrick to sink athleti is the seri a top scorer as we speak that's a flop?
I have seen the critics from Juventus fans .....totally unfounded. The reality is that the club wanted to be like Real Madrid without having the financial means. CR7 is an indisputable talent even at his age. The club spent that money for the player without enduring to build a proper team around him.
@@firefootball7 Love folk like you in the Internet that slate off footballers. They're all playing at very highest level of the game and you're sitting with your belly sagging out your t-shirt slating them😂
I understand where ur coming but the fact is that juve didnt need ronaldo tu win fuckin serie A and since he arrived they just got worse either in champions league specially and in serie A
Cuadrado was class in that second leg, coming from a Porto fan. He showed way more passion and skill than any of those Juventus players, apart from Chiesa
It’s safe to say that Ronaldo is better than Messi, he’s broken more leagues and left his eternal mark. Messi is an absolute God, but he’s only ever played in Spain. Ronaldo has played, and dominated, in England, Spain, and now Italy. I know he played in Portugal first, but he was nowhere near the player he was in the following three countries.
Ronaldo won 2 league in 9 year in Spain.. 😂 Changing club doesn't make good just say zlatan Ronaldo didn't even go to mid table table.. 😂 Gold digger penlaldo
call ronaldo a flop, won 5 ballon d'ors, scored 20+ goals a season, and is 36. ronaldo scored 100 goals first before dybala. cant really call him a flop
According to Arthur, Ronaldo is very involved with his team mates in the dressing room, that shows good leadership, and then this bruno guy is calling him arrogant cause he cabt speak Italian
The problem is that Bruno hasn't really got the reputation to say this type of things: it's actually almost the opposite. He never won a senior cap for our national team, and the main reason why he's remembered is that he was one of the most brutal and reckless defenders Serie A has ever seen... 😅
I'm not a Cristiano fan, but wow. Just wow. Everyone blaming him for juves failure because he turned his back towards the ball. What a pathetic way to blame someone, not because he scored an own goal or because he failed to score 20 goals a season but because he turned his face against the ball. The fuck is that. Literally the guy next to him, whoever he was also turned his body around but hes not getting any blame. Jesus man, give this man a break. Give him some respect. He should be treated as a legend in every club he played at. He got hate from real too. Wtf.
He’s not a juventus flop, but ronaldo going to juve was an incredibly stupid decision. Not saying he should of stayed at real but the premier league or PSG would of been a much better move
The fact that there are people calling Ronaldo a 'flop' for scoring 30+ goals every season at Juventus only showcases how good he really is. Haters will always exist no matter how many times one has proven himself on the big stage.
Yes Ronaldo shouldn't have turned his back but why was he even in the wall in the first place? You would think putting natural defenders in the wall and not splitting like the red sea when the balls hit. I would blame the keeper hes the one setting up the position of the wall and at that time in a CL tie why wasnt the wall packed full of players. Juve had 10 on field players to choose from.
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I’m 12 and I even I know that’s ronaldo can not be called a flop that’s bs man he’s one off the best players ever to be born and he’s 36 and in the shape off his life and still playing at the highest level u can’t blame ronaldo when he’s scored 27 goals so far this season he could still win anything if anything I blame juventus
He’s only labeled as a “flop” from the high standards he put on himself from his Real Madrid success. So Thiago Alcantara a flop cause Liverpool aren’t gone retain there title? That’s Litteraly how stupid this sounds
@@samplingmastersxlr8660 His fanboys deserve it,not him.It is not like Ronaldo asks them to troll Messi.Both don't even give a damn about what is being said about them on social media.
If he’s a flop, then EVERY forward for Juventus from 1997 until NOW are flops since none of them were able to win champions league ever since. Ronaldo is 36, some of your favorite players or legends were either washed up or just simply retired at this age, yet he’s the highest goal scorer in Serie A. Ronaldo doesn’t have Juventus powerhouse mids like prime Vidal, Marchisio, and Pogba, also he doesn’t have someone like Tevez or Higuian as a striker partnership; the defense is also not as good as 5-6 years ago. If he joined that Juventus team 5-6 years ago, he would of helped them win the Champions League. I’m not even defending Ronaldo, just straight up #FAXX here.
So... Is anyone else gonna blame Pirlo for poor tactics? Or maybe blame his teammates for poor performances and complacency? When a player is performing and doing his job (Ronaldo) and the rest of the team is not (Juventus), and the manager hasn't made any adjustments (Pirlo)... We still blame the player? Where is the logic behind that? I see a lot of people saying that Ronaldo is a flop because he was brought in to win the Champion's League and because he hasn't, he's a flop... Are you nuts?! It's a team sport played with 11 players per side and managers (coaches). The players play with the manager's tactics. You think more people would think about that. Zidane isn't the norm. Just because you were an incredible player, that doesn't make you a good manager. Ronaldo didn't fail Juventus... Juventus failed Ronaldo.
Yesterday Messi put in a master class but barca couldn't finish, Ronaldo put in 2 disaster classes vs Porto ffs, and opened his legs to let porto through...
He is a legend. And some people who can't do anything in their lives hate him, as he has achieved more than anyone in this game both on club and country level
I’m gonna look at this from an alternative angle: Ronaldo himself isn’t a flop, but the transfer itself is. Juventus are now regressing and stand a high chance of losing their dominance on Serie A and haven’t come close to a CL final. That isn’t Ronaldo‘s fault as he’s done incredibly well, but it’s the clubs fault for spending big on one player rather than improving the entire squad. Real and Ronaldo were a match made in heaven, and breaking it up has brought out these views of him being a "flop."
@@ahmedxd3333 Losing Allegri was probably the worst thing that’s happened to them. He took Conte‘s success and cemented it, with his own little imprint on the team. Sarri maybe could have done better if he had an improved overall squad, but not likely. Pirlo just isn’t ready.
I am Argentinian and as such, any GOAT discussion that goes past Messi or Maradona is not worthy of my time. BUT! how can anyone criticise this man, he is an absolute legend, the epitome of hard work and one of the best sportsmen to have ever lived. this is ridiculous...
Here’s my take: Ronaldo has been great for Juventus but it was still a bad buy from the club. The sole reason they bought Ronaldo was to get that champions league and they seem further away than before he came, the money could have been invested wiser (not ronaldos fault though)
Sorry but you seem not to understand how football economy works. That buy alone was far bigger gain for the club than they spent on him. And it is not his fault that they decided to get a rookie coach. Rookies don't win the champions
I disagree. They had five transfer windows to fix and make a champions league competing squad. They also chose sarri and pirlo after Allegri left . Ronaldo has carried the team way too many times already and has justified his price tag. There are only a few number of players who could've produced the numbers Ronaldo did and they wouldn't have come cheap at all ( atleast more than Ronaldo's cost)
Bruh... Why do people always blame Ronaldo and Messi when the TEAM fails. The end of the day football is a TEAM sport... So if the whole team os conceding goals and not performing well how can you just blame 1 player. If juventus wanted to win the champions league they need a world class coach that gets a team working as one cohesive unit
Ronaldo isn't a flop. But Juve have built their team around him. Regardless of class you shouldn't build a team around someone his age. Its the same issue Barcelona are having with Messi, these guys shouldn't have to carry teams at their age, they should be nice to have but not needed so desperately
Anyone who watched that game knows it wasn’t Ronaldo’s fault that they lost. Nowhere near his fault. In extra time the team just started throwing the game with some of the dumbest fouls. Ronaldo didn’t commit a dumb foul in extra time nor did he commit the foul leading to the free kick Porto scored. Why didn’t Juventus do the thing that we see every team do and have a man lying down behind the wall to stop that kind of thing? Pirlo is to blame for that one.
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Random person: Ronaldo is awful these days how did he fraud his way to all time debates
Also random person: Has Eden Hazard as his profile pic
😂 kids these days!!
Same with pulisic
Exactly my thought🤣
It really annoys me when certain fans banter Man United when they lose even though their team is lower than United in the table.
@@prometheustv6558 *Fat Frank The PE Teacher*
Haaland: *doesn't score after one game*
Twitter: *oH mY gOd hE iS a DoRtMuNd FlOp*
Ronaldo is considered kind of a flop in the Champions League. He was brought in to win it for them and achieve that last step towards the trophy. Instead, he has not led them to pass the Quarters. I know he can't carry a whole team now on his own but still...they paid 100 million plus cash for someone to let them win more not less...now they will lose Serie A and haven't won except a simple trophy against Napoli this year
@@myname1552 It's Juventus
No matter how good their team is they just never win it 😂😂
@@myname1552 juve hasn't done shit in the UCL in years. It's not just down to cr7. Plus their mgr is even less experienced lampard. Pirlo had 0 experience when he got hired
@@RasenRendanX they have reached 2 finals WITHOUT Ron. It was expected they would make a step forward and actually WIN the final but they haven't even reached Semis
@@myname1552 hes the all time champions league top goalscorer
He’s old. It happens. Whenever Ronaldo plays, he will be one of the best out there, but you can’t play forever. Messi and Ronaldo are only a few years off retirement, so trying to blame solely them for a teams success and failure isn’t fair.
Nah with the way some players play today.. Both zlatan and CR7 will be past 40 when they retire and their dip in quality will be minimal.. I think messi will retire first but he still has good years in him
i dunno how they can have this kind of longevity
@@snow5064 Ronaldo and Zlatan are slaves to physical perfection. We’re talking yoga, ballet, taekwondo, a refined sugar and red meat free diet. 5 hours a day doing low weight high repetition gym sessions. No one in the history of sport have put this much effort into attaining and sustaining physical ability as those two.
@@pranav77777 most of those were penalties and goals don't mean greatness
Farmers league
This could potentially be the reason why I prefer HITC Sport over Football Daily.
hitc is way better anyway
@@tashgilbert3585 wise words
Oh yeah i forgot Football Daily existed
Still remember the times when I used to only watch FD, how low they have fallen now 😞
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Fabio Capello calling him embarrassing like he wasn't the man who oversaw England's 2010 world cup campaign.
Exactly we could have won that if it wernt for a shit coach
@@lucasdunn1147 Wrong. 2010 England squad was just Poor. Defending was atrocious, shambolic. They’re lucky to have gotten out of the group stage, honestly more painful than 2014.
@@lucasdunn1147 calm down
Just because you're embarrassing yourself does not mean you can't criticise others for being embarrassing. But don't get me wrong CR7's time at Juve has been far from poor, man has carried a bang average team.
Ikr what right does he have to insult arguably the greatest to ever play the game, who has achieved 1000 times more than him.
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I think he did that already
@@moon-friend-football link?
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@@moon-friend-football he didn't do it, cracking idea tho
Pirlo has no CV, he never once coached the under 23 team.
He was somehow given the coaching gig 9 days after becoming u23 manager
According to this theory Gerrard was a "flop" at Liverpool just because they won the PL after he retired, what a ludicrous way of thinking!!
Exactly
I wouldn’t say he is a flop I say he flopped and burned your premier league chance
@@cjedozie8681 bruv I am a Manchester united fan, Gerrard was the best example thus wrote this comment
@Aditya Luthra Ronaldo won the league with Juventus last season and hey I would argue had he not been there they probably wouldn't have won
No because juve have done nothing more with him than without him
"This man should be the one lecturing us on how to play the game."
Damn straight.
No he is a huge flop
@@SerginioAlvarez piss off hater hes better than you
@@SerginioAlvarez No he isn't
I’m glad Irish Guy is defending Ronaldo, he’s a world class player and Juventus would be halfway down a ditch without him
eh, no?
Agreed, Ronaldo at Juventus hasn't at all been bad, but then he needs to step up in important games like Napoli, Lazio, Inter, ACM & Porto. If not by scoring, then at least by helping the team in the build-up, with creative moments and some playmaking. But Ronaldo does neither of that, he's just a goalscorer which might not suffice for Juve's purpose. As in there are so many bright Juve youngsters like Chiesa, Kulusevski & McKennie who can create and pose a threat to the goal, so perhaps their progress is being stalled by Ronaldo's omnipresence.
Just my view tho.
@@manswind3417 he got a Assist vs Porto
@@Idekbrah_ and never showed up
I agree but i think you may be forgetting the times where ronaldo was the only good player for a struggling juventus. And maybe the young players that are now flourishing because they have CHRISTIANO RONALDO in the dressing room. World stars like him improve teams just by being around him. These young players would have grown up idolising him. So he has done so much than just score a ton of goals(which is an achievement on its own).
@@manswind3417 and your manager takes no blame huh, stop hiring PE teachers
Why are Ronaldo and Messi getting criticized like this, it's not their jobs to carry their teams
their wages say otherwise .
Because kids aways want them to do good
Gerrard carried a team to a champions league I think we all know the real goat
Messi does it tho but kids think he needs to win ucl single handedly
@@aidanb9671 did you see the vid on hitc 7 which looked at the clubs who's entire wage bill is lower than messi's "reported" wage? Apparently it's over 2.1m euro a week. Ronaldo's only 500k at that price maybe messi should be performing 4 times better than Ronaldo haha
Ronaldo is 36 and still banging in 20+ goals a season in Serie A. How on earth is he a flop?
Kids.
Literally made no difference to the team, just got stats, if he helped the team achieve more I would disagree with the video
@@erminiojr2117 you are the same person that would say bruno is a flop😐
He’s 36
@@monketakingyoutoparadise5609 is that not impressive though? For a 36 year old man to still score 20+ goals a season. I think it is
Ronaldo didn’t fail with Juventus,
Juventus failed with Ronaldo
Zlatan comments
Ikr
@MaGiiX xL goal tallies dont matter now?
@MaGiiX xL by your logic Neymar and Mbappe are both flops
@MaGiiX xL And what are you doing with your life
"Ronaldo is a Juve flop"
Also Ronaldo: scored 60% of all Juve goals this season...
When Juventus scores Ronaldo scores when Juventus scored twice Ronaldo scores twice.
He’s also scored around a goal a game for them.
Until this season he was the only player to score for them in the knockout stages since 2018 too
@MaGiiX xL without half the quality in they're squad..
You haven't watched the video, have you?
Crazy how Ronaldo never been more than a year with a single coach at Juve
Nice pfp VAMOS POR EL CLASSICO NATIONAL!
And next year he will probably be with a new one
They should've kept Allegri
@@gaelmata1909 let’s gooooooooooo america 💛💙🦅
@@khalidmohammed4311 so true
Finally someone with a functioning brain, thanks Irish guy
" Functioning brain " and "Irish Guy " don't fit in the same sentence.
@@prajjwoltimilsina3093 true that, but today was one of those, one in a million moments
wila talking about functioning brains lmao
@@sebascruz7762 and who do you support?
@@angel_5875 remember how he wrote off arteta earlier in the season, now arsenal have more chance of making either top 6 or top 4 than liverpool
I think he should of done a videio about Pepe, he was insane that game
Ronaldo is a legend, and will always be one
Oh yeah, 92 goals in 121 games for Juve certainly makes someone a flop (sarcasm)
If Ronaldo is a flop, Every other footballer(maybe not Messi) doesn't even exist!
If Ronaldo is a flop for not the CL then Aubameyang has flopped at arsenal because he hasn't won the PL or CL
@@dhruvmaslekar Lol exactly.These two have set the bar so high for themselves that they are deemed as 'flop' even though they are still better than most other footballers at their worst.People have too high expectations from them despite them being in the twilight of their careers.
@@ashishmehta8342 I can imagine the psychological toll on these players from getting hate just for performing below their usual standards which would be deemed incredible for other normal players.
How many penalties?
Beer bellies who haven't stepped on a pitch for the last decade and 12 year olds with no facial hair: "ronaldo is shite"
Irish guy: Gamers look for a different challenge after beating the game.
Me: Played Fable the lost chapters over 30 times.
I've played Skyrim like 90 times over lol!
@@ihaveadream3321 too bad I work full-time on site bud. Try another insult :)
@@ihaveadream3321 so going to work while biking for an hour isn't going outside? Remember, skyrim had been out for a decade.
@@BassyBoy he meant outside in skyrim obviously ;)
@@mistercabbage Smart! Unless you're vampire. Then wait until dark!
Dont ever say perlo is stoke standard I'm more than happy with Michael O'Neill
LOL
This video is a proof that Irish Guy talks much more sense than majority of the Football Pundits , Journalists , former professionals and TH-camrs .
Love you Michael Ramsay ❤️❤️
Twitter messi and Ronaldo stans are clowns.
Agreed wholeheartedly
Yes
200 languages and you choose to speak facts
100% true
Everyone saying Ronaldo is a fraud would probably give their life savings to kiss his big toe
i would not do that
They don't have money after buying the gamer-girl bath water
a tenner to kiss ronaldos toe is a good deal lad
6:50 He is right though😂
People are acting like Juve has won UCLs continuously over the years.
True, but they’ve been doing better than r16
@@The_Bahamian_Intellectual yea but dont place all the blame on one person like people are doing with ronaldo
@@mosaeed5744 it’s truly unfair for both Messi and Ronaldo because they are both game winners, when they don’t show up suddenly the teammates who missed open goals (juve vs Porto) and ones that miss one on ones (Liverpool 4-0 Barca) aren’t to blame.
What do u expect cr7 to do in a terrible Juventus team
Literally anything at all maybe
@@nomirakuru 🤦♂️
@@nomirakuru scoring that many goals is considered nothing?
@@arthur0023 I mean, maybe, his huge Character(the power he gained because of his incredible achievments) disturbed other team members and crashed team balance. But there is no evidence or sth so youre right
But don't people say, messi needs a team, Ronaldo is the team?
WE ALL KNOW THAT EVERYONE HATES HIM BECAUSE HE'S TOO GOOD🤷♂️
stupid ronaldo fans keep tryna make it seem like messi played had yesterday when he was the best on the field with navas. They call messi a choker than watch ronaldo against porto and got in there feelings now there taking it out on messi
@@thebarcaboardroom406 Your also kinda stupid because ronaldo bottled against porto but scored all except three of juventus's goals in knockouts since joining them.
@@mahiramahzabeen8924 but than his fans call messi a choker when he does the same against those level of teams. But barca actually WIN those games. They beat lyon, and napoli. But the narrative is ronaldo "put up a fight" and messi "choked". On top of that all the trash ronaldo fans talked after the first leg against psg
does anybody remember that at the beginning of the season messi had the same problem eventually a player will play terrible look at the team around messi and around ronaldo both are a team with good players koeman is a good manager but come on pirlo is far from good at least koeman did very well with the dutch national team.
@@thebarcaboardroom406 the team around messi is way better than ronaldo btw
This is the best video ever on the whole “Ronaldo is overrated” debate
Irish Guy: "Ronaldo can't win on his own"
Ronaldo fanboys: *Furiously shaking*
I don't think you got his point. Nobody can win alone
@@Tomas1999Benfica the Ronaldo can win things by his own was meant to be sarcasm when I use it but some people did not get the Memo
@@Tomas1999Benfica but his fanbois claim he singlehandedly won 3ucls ina row
@@sounaksharma7486 and? Some people claim the earth is flat would you still believed them?
Thats why football is played with 11 men teams. But then again, Portugal vs Spain.
I noticed that there was some Korean guy that was standing next to Pirlo on the touchline.
"2 games of elite professional football twice a week" = 2 games a week.
- Irish Guy 2021
Yes which is 90 minutes of physically testing sport. Twice a week with constant training and little rest. His point is valid.
@@megafn9219 last time I checked 2x2 was 4...
It says enough about how good ronaldo is when people call him trash when he doesnt score a comeback champions league hattrick for once
He trash I hate when someone is arrogant
I guess "flop" has come off cause he isn't winning nearly as compared to Real
Juve isn't real, never was, never will be, so what can u espect
I think people are calling him a flop, because he didn't actually improve Juventus
HE IS A FLOP!!!!!!!
@@ihaveadream3321 that isnt a improvement, he just made them too reliant on him.
@@ihaveadream3321 never said it was his fault, that's just how it is at the moment.
Irish guy chose violence tday🤩🔥
Yeah he did
The problem is people expect him to play like 26 while he's 36. Same with Messi. Good God I hope Mbappe and Haaland fans aren't this toxic
Yeah, and even for 36, 92 goals in 121 games is still great for someone his age
Same can be said with Messi as well. People blame Messi for not getting Barca through despite the fact he was still very good last night
The whole team was good last night
@@seyakenkre8588 yeah they played very well, just couldn’t convert chances. Dembele was the only player who played badly imo
This Juventus team is terrible, not Ronaldo's fault.
the team has a lot of talented, but Pirlo just hasn't managed it well.
People are quick to bash Ronaldo as if he's 11 men. Sure you might said he should of done better but how's the head suppose to work without the body.
Yea ronaldo fangirls were humbled
It's easy when you have marcelo ramos varane bezema casemiro kroos and modric
@Harvey White but at that time benzema was there to track and do everything ronaldo didn't want to...this is why he's better now cause he doesn't have to do all that
@@tkay25 Like Messi didn’t have Suarez, Neymar, Rakitic, Alba, Ter Stegen, etc. Both sides used to be absolutely perfect, don’t act like Messi had a worse team
@@alexbeck8568 He has had a worse team. He used to have Pique and Puyol in defense and now he has Umtiti and Lenglet.
@@alexbeck8568 that's not at all what I'm saying I'm just saying I hate ppl who say ronaldo carried real madrid to ucl titles...he did not.He had the best player in every single position I even forgot navas...I'm just saying y'all should use the same criticism you give messi to CR .I'm actually a real admirer of both and I hate these new guys haaland and mbappe who'll prolly pass their goal tallies even tho messi and ronaldo are better than them
Pirlo managed Juventus U-23 for 9 days....Then took over the senior team job...So He has no experience at all....
yeah for me this was a crazier appointment than Lampard, I know Pirlo is a legend but he really needed to be a coach or a manager for a while in order to even consider appointing him... I think they took what they had under Sarri for granted and look at them now lol
exactly
Same goes to lampard he managed a championship team for 1 season and mobed to chelsea and finished 4th with trasnfer ban and eden hazard leaving
@@champeone7061 And he did okay all things considered in season one despite the challenges. At least Lamps had experience, albeit Championship, so slightly different from Pirlo.
We don't talk about THIS season however...
@@guguy00 at his first season in championship and his first season at chelsea was very good. Your man pirlo cant even top the table of a farmers league
So ronaldo from 33 to 36 getting 28 goals then 38 (31 in the league)then 20 so far is a flop not to mention he scored in 11 consecutive games scored a hatrick to sink athleti is the seri a top scorer as we speak that's a flop?
It is the case of very high standards.People expect them to win the freaking treble every season as if it is a joke.
I am glad you made this video and I agree but you can't blame Pirlo but you can blame Juventus for hiring him
I have seen the critics from Juventus fans .....totally unfounded. The reality is that the club wanted to be like Real Madrid without having the financial means. CR7 is an indisputable talent even at his age. The club spent that money for the player without enduring to build a proper team around him.
Irish guy has a point.
Stick him against the whole of twitter and im putting my money on Irish guy
92 goals in 121 appearances, 2 Serie A titles and he's a flop. Come off it, its real life not fifa he can't win everything.
Even Ramsey has Serie A title
@@firefootball7 does ramsey has 92 goals in 121?
@@firefootball7 Love folk like you in the Internet that slate off footballers. They're all playing at very highest level of the game and you're sitting with your belly sagging out your t-shirt slating them😂
I understand where ur coming but the fact is that juve didnt need ronaldo tu win fuckin serie A and since he arrived they just got worse either in champions league specially and in serie A
@@myname719 ffs did I slat cristiano, he is legend of my team Manutd. I just said ramsey also has a serie a title.
Cuadrado was class in that second leg, coming from a Porto fan. He showed way more passion and skill than any of those Juventus players, apart from Chiesa
7:56 the Irish script
It’s safe to say that Ronaldo is better than Messi, he’s broken more leagues and left his eternal mark. Messi is an absolute God, but he’s only ever played in Spain. Ronaldo has played, and dominated, in England, Spain, and now Italy. I know he played in Portugal first, but he was nowhere near the player he was in the following three countries.
Ronaldo won 2 league in 9 year in Spain.. 😂 Changing club doesn't make good just say zlatan
Ronaldo didn't even go to mid table table.. 😂 Gold digger penlaldo
That's like saying Puyol and Maldini can't be considered in the conversation of GOAT defenders because they spent their careers at one club
Do people see how bad that Juventus team is it wouldn’t finish in top 4 of the prem
Bro they wouldn't even get top 8 fr west ham and aston villa would both beat juve
@@nomirakuru I know right but people can’t see they have 1 world class player they had Ramsey on the right wing ffs
@@nomirakuru no Prem teams are oveerrated
@@markghnmm84 look at the CL final and say that again (btw i'm not even english)
He scored 30+ goals last season he ain't a flop. Put some respect on his name and don't just type anything for such a legend.
call ronaldo a flop, won 5 ballon d'ors, scored 20+ goals a season, and is 36. ronaldo scored 100 goals first before dybala. cant really call him a flop
i love how the juve fans forget how he carried them past Atletico Madrid a couple years ago
The Irish Guy called it...
Juventus defence is horrible, specially the goalkeeper and left backs
Scsesny is not bad it’s mainly the midfield and the aging cb’s
How can someone who has scored 60% of their teams goals this season be a flop
Make up stats
According to Arthur, Ronaldo is very involved with his team mates in the dressing room, that shows good leadership, and then this bruno guy is calling him arrogant cause he cabt speak Italian
Seriously cr7 can't speak italian?
@@kelvintahiru3499 nope only English, Spanish and Portuguese
@@kianhaines3467 oh i see
The problem is that Bruno hasn't really got the reputation to say this type of things: it's actually almost the opposite.
He never won a senior cap for our national team, and the main reason why he's remembered is that he was one of the most brutal and reckless defenders Serie A has ever seen... 😅
@@kelvintahiru3499 how many languages do you speak
The man is 36 years old and it’s not just one person who can deliver a Champions League to a club.
If a flop is someone over who scores nearly 90 goals in just over 2 and a half seasons
well he is a flop regardless though , it's all about context. Ronaldo fans started this mess in the first place
@@samplingmastersxlr8660
Let's start from the beginning.
Do you even know what a flop is?
@@samplingmastersxlr8660 lmao shut up
@@Joshua-hf5ui 🤣😂
@@WERTYUIO821 let’s not do this
I'm not a Cristiano fan, but wow. Just wow. Everyone blaming him for juves failure because he turned his back towards the ball. What a pathetic way to blame someone, not because he scored an own goal or because he failed to score 20 goals a season but because he turned his face against the ball. The fuck is that. Literally the guy next to him, whoever he was also turned his body around but hes not getting any blame. Jesus man, give this man a break. Give him some respect. He should be treated as a legend in every club he played at. He got hate from real too. Wtf.
Just another example of how football fans are INSANELY short sighted and reactionary
They should be embarrassed to say something like that publicly
He’s not a juventus flop, but ronaldo going to juve was an incredibly stupid decision. Not saying he should of stayed at real but the premier league or PSG would of been a much better move
The fact that there are people calling Ronaldo a 'flop' for scoring 30+ goals every season at Juventus only showcases how good he really is. Haters will always exist no matter how many times one has proven himself on the big stage.
Yes Ronaldo shouldn't have turned his back but why was he even in the wall in the first place? You would think putting natural defenders in the wall and not splitting like the red sea when the balls hit. I would blame the keeper hes the one setting up the position of the wall and at that time in a CL tie why wasnt the wall packed full of players. Juve had 10 on field players to choose from.
He's scored almost a hundred goals in less than 3 years at the club... kind of hard to call him a 'flop'
He scored a hat-trick
Previous 9 games of Ronaldo
Inter: 0 goals
Napoli: 0 goals
Porto: 0 goals
Crotone: 2 goals
Verona: 1 goal
Spezia: 1 goal
Lazio: 0 goals
Porto: 0 goals
Cagliari: 3 goals
Spot the pattern. Statpadding at its finest.
@@augustusfreeman4032 🤣🤣🤣
@@augustusfreeman4032 Eibarman's stats for 7th Balon D'or campaign!
4 goals in 7 games in Copa America, 3 against Ecuador and Bolivia 🤗. 5 assists in Copa America, 3 against Ecuador and Bolivia 💪.
30 goals in 35 La Liga games, 24 against the last bottom 7 teams, zero against the top teams like Real Madrid, Atletico and Sevilla🤭.
5 goals in the UCL, 4 were penalties (mini free kicks)😬
Disappeared against Colombia, Brazil, PSG, Real Madrid, Atletico, Juventus etc. when it mattered the most, appeared against Eibar, Elche, Getafe, Cadiz, Mallorca, Ecuador, Bolivia, Paraguay etc. 👻
As a vice man once said:
"Give me freedom,
Give me fire,
Give me Eibar,
Or I retire 😭"
But but the greatest of the universe, he deserves 7th Balon D'or 🥺
THANK YOU IRISH GUY!! THANK YOU SO MUCH IRISH GIY
I’m 12 and I even I know that’s ronaldo can not be called a flop that’s bs man he’s one off the best players ever to be born and he’s 36 and in the shape off his life and still playing at the highest level u can’t blame ronaldo when he’s scored 27 goals so far this season he could still win anything if anything I blame juventus
He’s only labeled as a “flop” from the high standards he put on himself from his Real Madrid success. So Thiago Alcantara a flop cause Liverpool aren’t gone retain there title? That’s Litteraly how stupid this sounds
Thiago is a genuine flop.
I feel sad for CR7. He doesn't deserve this much hate at all. A true competitor. (coming from a Messi fan)
NO he deserves it , his fanboys would hate on messi in a heart beat
@@samplingmastersxlr8660 His fanboys deserve it,not him.It is not like Ronaldo asks them to troll Messi.Both don't even give a damn about what is being said about them on social media.
Bro had hazard as his display picture saying Ronaldo is awful lol
Last time Ronny didn’t get to 20 goals I wasn’t even alive
If he’s a flop, then EVERY forward for Juventus from 1997 until NOW are flops since none of them were able to win champions league ever since. Ronaldo is 36, some of your favorite players or legends were either washed up or just simply retired at this age, yet he’s the highest goal scorer in Serie A. Ronaldo doesn’t have Juventus powerhouse mids like prime Vidal, Marchisio, and Pogba, also he doesn’t have someone like Tevez or Higuian as a striker partnership; the defense is also not as good as 5-6 years ago. If he joined that Juventus team 5-6 years ago, he would of helped them win the Champions League. I’m not even defending Ronaldo, just straight up #FAXX here.
This is honestly the most true video I’ve ever seen
Absolutely right! Ronaldo is the opposite of a flop.. people are stupid...
"Ronaldo is a juventus flop"
Also Ronaldo: "only source ofgoals at juventus"
What about morata and chiesa
@@ehwhynot1172 ronaldo is like 60% goals chiesa and morata are like 40%.
So... Is anyone else gonna blame Pirlo for poor tactics? Or maybe blame his teammates for poor performances and complacency? When a player is performing and doing his job (Ronaldo) and the rest of the team is not (Juventus), and the manager hasn't made any adjustments (Pirlo)... We still blame the player? Where is the logic behind that? I see a lot of people saying that Ronaldo is a flop because he was brought in to win the Champion's League and because he hasn't, he's a flop... Are you nuts?! It's a team sport played with 11 players per side and managers (coaches). The players play with the manager's tactics. You think more people would think about that. Zidane isn't the norm. Just because you were an incredible player, that doesn't make you a good manager. Ronaldo didn't fail Juventus... Juventus failed Ronaldo.
Exactly where's the same energy for messi
O it exists u just haven't seen it
But Messi is a good boy🥺.🤣🤣🤣
@@cesardasilva3134 well most of the time. Messi is painted to be a Hero
@@cesardasilva3134 😂😂😂
Yesterday Messi put in a master class but barca couldn't finish, Ronaldo put in 2 disaster classes vs Porto ffs, and opened his legs to let porto through...
Video idea: What were football legends doing at the age of 36
6:40 have you ever had a volleyball smashed off Ur arms, that fucking hurts.
True, but in terms of physical strength needed football requires more, and it’s an exaggeration/joke.
It’s like the barcalona fans turning ins Messi because they can’t win the champions league
I prefer messi over ronaldo but you always have to give insane amount of respect to both of them for what they have done and are still doing
Bruh i made this comment 30 seconds ago, already a like thats mad xD
@@VTPooks you have 2 now,you're welcome
@@poster_ityWelp i have now been out played
he was literally talking about football manager the instant i switch to my fm tab
Sees the title
Me: Oh god, I can hear the Messi fanboys coming
There day is tomorrow lol
Barcelona actually played well in that game, Mbappe was in FIrpo's pocket.
Honestly a 2 year old baby has more brain cells than people who say 'Penaldo' and 'Pessi'.
@@3dsaulgoodman43 The fact that Bruno is lumped in with them shows how great of a player he is. You never hear Penaldowski or Palah.
@@prometheustv6558 😂😂😂😂
He didn't fail at Juve, Juventus failed not Ronaldo
Really has he though? He gets like 30 goals a season also he is like top 2 ever
I could feel the passion in the irish guy's voice
He is a legend. And some people who can't do anything in their lives hate him, as he has achieved more than anyone in this game both on club and country level
Club messi country ronaldo
@@sleepsoundsforcalmingsleep1871 club is pretty equal because ronaldo won more ucls and won in three different leagues.
@@mahiramahzabeen8924 it's only by 1 so not that impressive
I’m gonna look at this from an alternative angle:
Ronaldo himself isn’t a flop, but the transfer itself is. Juventus are now regressing and stand a high chance of losing their dominance on Serie A and haven’t come close to a CL final. That isn’t Ronaldo‘s fault as he’s done incredibly well, but it’s the clubs fault for spending big on one player rather than improving the entire squad.
Real and Ronaldo were a match made in heaven, and breaking it up has brought out these views of him being a "flop."
Plus, they sacked Allegri.. that’s the reason of Why Juve is shit last 2 seasons :”(
@@ahmedxd3333 Losing Allegri was probably the worst thing that’s happened to them. He took Conte‘s success and cemented it, with his own little imprint on the team. Sarri maybe could have done better if he had an improved overall squad, but not likely. Pirlo just isn’t ready.
Damn, a lot of salty Messi fanboys taking their chance. Nobody should be even allowed to degrade Ronaldo.
Edit: Coming from an admirer of Messi
everyone has their own opinion so get over it . Not everyone has to like or be a fan of ronaldo
I am Argentinian and as such, any GOAT discussion that goes past Messi or Maradona is not worthy of my time. BUT! how can anyone criticise this man, he is an absolute legend, the epitome of hard work and one of the best sportsmen to have ever lived. this is ridiculous...
Here’s my take: Ronaldo has been great for Juventus but it was still a bad buy from the club. The sole reason they bought Ronaldo was to get that champions league and they seem further away than before he came, the money could have been invested wiser (not ronaldos fault though)
It's their defence de ligt and bonucci are so shit
Sorry but you seem not to understand how football economy works. That buy alone was far bigger gain for the club than they spent on him.
And it is not his fault that they decided to get a rookie coach. Rookies don't win the champions
I disagree. They had five transfer windows to fix and make a champions league competing squad. They also chose sarri and pirlo after Allegri left . Ronaldo has carried the team way too many times already and has justified his price tag. There are only a few number of players who could've produced the numbers Ronaldo did and they wouldn't have come cheap at all ( atleast more than Ronaldo's cost)
Bruh... Why do people always blame Ronaldo and Messi when the TEAM fails. The end of the day football is a TEAM sport... So if the whole team os conceding goals and not performing well how can you just blame 1 player. If juventus wanted to win the champions league they need a world class coach that gets a team working as one cohesive unit
@@danielnaidoo2078 Because they think since they’re the best they should carry their team
Ronaldo isn't a flop. But Juve have built their team around him. Regardless of class you shouldn't build a team around someone his age. Its the same issue Barcelona are having with Messi, these guys shouldn't have to carry teams at their age, they should be nice to have but not needed so desperately
Ronaldo is even better than his coach
Ronaldo is even better than pirlo in his prime
"His glutes are having as much fun as someone trapped in Josef Fritzl's bunker"
What a sentence
the disrespect, you laugh at his elimination he laughs at your bank account and trophy cabinet
Imagine playing one mediocre match at top level at 36 and suddenly your entire career has been a lie.
1:56 a lot people play Minecraft after they beat it
Yes
Anyone who watched that game knows it wasn’t Ronaldo’s fault that they lost. Nowhere near his fault. In extra time the team just started throwing the game with some of the dumbest fouls. Ronaldo didn’t commit a dumb foul in extra time nor did he commit the foul leading to the free kick Porto scored. Why didn’t Juventus do the thing that we see every team do and have a man lying down behind the wall to stop that kind of thing? Pirlo is to blame for that one.
I mean I think Messi is the Goat but Ronaldo is no doubt the greatest goalscorer of all time
He could’ve spoke any language but he chose to speak facts 💯