9:43 Thank you for the Agrax vs Strong Tone Advice! 11:40 Fantastic Work. Thank you so much for showing me. I have a few models like this, I will play them as Jäger Squad / Gebirgsjäger.
That's a good tip about spending time on what people look at. Face, upper body. Very useful to keep in mind if speed is a concern. And a sharp looking soldier you got there.
There's something to be said about painting for display and being a little more careful, but you've got the right of how I like to get these guys out quickly; not everything needs to be perfect, and what won't be seen regularly from table height isn't necessarily a cunning use of time! Just go go go! :D
Really enjoyed this. It was super helpful, and gave me the steps needed, to get painting my "Starter army; German Grenadiers" Your videos on Bolt action, was definitely a big part, of me even considering giving historic wargaming a go.
Mate, this was perfect. Have just bought a lot of grenadiers and am looking forward to painting them. Do you have a video on basing techniques and how-to?
Thanks for the tutorial,it is really helpful. I too have seen conflicting opinions on German uniform colors and I think the figure looks great. I especially like the recommendations for the 15 mm figures. This was well worth the wait and I look forward to your next tutorial.
There's a huge amount of information out there about the uniforms of every nation involved in WWII, so it can be a real challenge to know where to start - which is the most reliable, which is more accurate for a certain year and so forth. It's the case of our hobby that sometimes what becomes accepted 'fact' simply isn't, like tan bread bags or "only the Canadians used the Thompson SMG in British and Dominion troops." Sometimes a bit of the fun is in diving deeper and trying to get to the root of things, but I think that for the most part Hollywood accuracy isn't too bad on the tabletop. All a matter of opinion, of course!
For field gray, i would submit Stormvermin Fur as a good Citadel substitute. It leans more towards the grey spectrum than green, but it works well enough for government work. Or if you just want a more Hollywood look, I guess.
Edit: Weren’t the gaiters made out of gray/green canvas, instead of beige? I love the beige looking gaiters with the field grey, but I’ve yet to see an original pair in that color. If there are any, someone let me know.
It's very true about the felt, as the water on the damp felt evaporates it pulls out any heat in the water in the bottle.... simple science. The British bottles have the same idea, US troops had insulated bottle carriers.
Vallejo has a Fieldgrey rattle can which would speed up the process if you have multiple figures. I personally prefer Army painter Fieldgrey as it is more towards the grey spectrum that the Vallejo version.
Have you ever tried adding some Lahmian Medium to the AP Strong Tone? It cuts down on the staining and gives a bit smoother, though slightly more transperant finish.
I wouldn't have thought of that. For the most part I like to use the shades out of the pot - or with just a little water. Mixing medium and Strong Tone is definitely worth an experiment though!
I never realized that there was a difference in how Citadel and Army Painter shades behaved until I watched some of your videos. That knowledge has been very helpful as it has allowed me to choose the right one for any given application and effect I'm after.
It bothers me a little when people shrug it off in reviews and say, "They're the same colour." That's technically accurate, but doesn't really paint the whole picture - no pun intended! Glad to know it helps to have it laid out a little more. :)
Yet another great tutorial and just at the right time as I am painting late war Germans. One question though, in the video you mention green grey for highlighting the jacket but in the paint list you mention grey green. To add to the confusion Vallejo do both so my question is which colour is it? Thanks once again and keep up the great work as your methods for painting give good results but are one of the simplest to follow.
It's a quirk of Vallejo's naming scheme that never fails to get on my nerves, if I'm honest! Green Grey is the correct colour; I'll update the paint list here to reflect it. :)
Sonic Sledgehammer Studio thanks for the reply. I downloaded an app called paint picker on iOS and it came up with green grey which agrees with you I also had a good look at the colours in the pots and visually the green grey looks right. Any chance of a tutorial on the Hannomag painted in late war European theatre or the Warlord Hamlet?
Nice tutorial ... I think I put too much agrax on mine ... also should have thinned the paint more. Oh well. Beginner mistakes. Maybe I can highlight it and make it better. The problem is I put a lot of spots for their camo ... so they would all get covered. Sigh. It would have been also very useful to watch this video to know the color of the water bottle and little pouch correctly as you say it. The important thing is I guess that I learned from my mistakes and the next batch will be better.
Every step is part of the learning process. It sounds like you've got the right attitude already, which is the hardest part! Your next miniatures will definitely be better if you're taking each little lesson on to the next one. :)
I did mine with black primer with no major issues. I have none of it left but have a can of white primer brand new. Will I get similar results if I paint them on white?
It'll work, but the end result will be slightly brighter overall. Not so much so that they'll look shocking next to your already finished miniatures; just mix them up through units and it'll be fine!
Aww, cack! I completely forgot to mention - I had the paints set to one side and everything. For the uncovered helmets I'd basecoat them with Vallejo's Black Grey, shade them at the same time as the rest of the miniature and then just pick out a couple highlights on the rim with Engine Grey. It's another from their Model Air line but brushes on perfectly well, and looks the business. Any mid-tone grey would work perfectly well, though.
My field gray looks so dark compared to what you have and I'm using the Vallejo stuff. How is yours so nice and green? I keep having issues with this and painting my 1/72 German infantry
There's an interesting visual effect at work here! I've seen vehicle modelers refer to it as 'scale fade,' where the smaller something is, the lighter colour you'll need for it to look right. Green Grey would be one place to start, or you could try adding a drop of Pastel Green or Ivory to your field grey to get a lighter mix for your basecoats on the smaller figures.
Another great video, sir! Funny timing as I just recently came into a Late War Grenadiers starter army box. Quick question for you, however as I don't want to bother you, but on the chap with the helmet... what colors did you use? Thanks.
Funny you should ask, since I had to answer this one elsewhere as well! I'd completely forgotten to explain, but here's what I'd do: "Aww, cack! I completely forgot to mention - I had the paints set to one side and everything. For the uncovered helmets I'd basecoat them with Vallejo's Black Grey, shade them at the same time as the rest of the miniature and then just pick out a couple highlights on the rim with Engine Grey. It's another from their Model Air line but brushes on perfectly well, and looks the business. Any mid-tone grey would work perfectly well, though."
Could you paint a mock up of a commonwealth soldier in canadian fatigues? (basically a british model but with the canadian uniform) I just cant seem to quite figure it out.
Thanks for the nice tutorial as always. Just as a suggestion, as you did already black armor, could you may present some ideas for white robes? best wishes
I'll need to find something with white robes! There's a few different ways of going about it, and it does depend on the result you're looking for - crisp, pristine 'future' robes, or something a little more natural-looking?
I would go for natural looking rather than future robes. I am just curious as one of my next models will be an imperial priest, which will offer blessing to my astra miltiarium soldiers. best wishes and thanks for the reply
Haven't really had the chance, honestly! It means buying a whole box of plastic for when I'm only going to paint two or three miniatures - I wouldn't know aaanybody around me that'd play ACW, unfortunately, so it's just not likely to come up.
I've been thinking about buying one of the foundry triad paint sets How do you find them? I have quite a few vallejo and citadel paints, but have read some good things about foundry
I've got a few of them for different skin tones and I like them a lot. They work best if you apply the base colour, shade it and then apply the second parts of the triad, I think, but they're generally very good paints. They cover about as well as Citadel layer paints of comparable shades, so consider that when you're thinking about what primer to use, but I do highly recommend them for their range of colours and the ease they're designed for.
Thank you for a yet another great video! The outcome is great, I a an avid lover of history so ww1 and ww2 minis are something I would love to paint. Are the minis you have from the Bolt Action game? (here in the UK not many ppl play it :|) Keep up the great work! PS: Great to see you have your new lamp ;)
These guys are the German Grenadiers from Warlord Games, who makes Bolt Action. Well spotted! There have been a couple of newer German infantry sets since then, and particularly their greatcoat-wearing winter themed infantry are really neat. It's good to be back and well-lit! ;)
Can I ask, do you have any tips for how to get a clean coverage with skin tone paints? Every time I try it always seems too thick or way way too watery, but in the vids I’ve watched it always seems to go on smoothly. Am I missing a trick someplace or is it just a case of needing to be super careful with how much I thin it?
Normally a couple of minutes. When you're painting in groups of 3-10 men at a time, by the time you finish the first coat on the last man, the first man should be dry. You'll get a feel for different paint manufacturers and how quickly their paint dries, as well as what thinning them with water will do. Five minutes is a good, safe estimate.
Sonic Sledgehammer Studio Even if you change colour? Five minutes and the first colour won’t blend with the second? I must be working with difficult paints.
This is useful because ..... I'm painting my Bolt Action U.S. and my gaming club friend is lazy with his Axis forces. Yes that probably means I will have to paint my WW2 Germans.
Darn it, wish you had made this vid awhile ago would have saved me a lot of time fafing. Like your Russian vid as well!! Do you get to play some of the games you paint so much for? Bookmarked.
I wish! The local scene for historicals is lacking, to say the least. It's Guild Ball, Freebooter's Fate, GW games or nothing. So I just keep adding a miniature or two to the army in the background for the day a horde of infantry is needed!
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9:43 Thank you for the Agrax vs Strong Tone Advice!
11:40 Fantastic Work. Thank you so much for showing me. I have a few models like this, I will play them as Jäger Squad / Gebirgsjäger.
That's a good tip about spending time on what people look at. Face, upper body. Very useful to keep in mind if speed is a concern.
And a sharp looking soldier you got there.
There's something to be said about painting for display and being a little more careful, but you've got the right of how I like to get these guys out quickly; not everything needs to be perfect, and what won't be seen regularly from table height isn't necessarily a cunning use of time! Just go go go! :D
Really enjoyed this. It was super helpful, and gave me the steps needed, to get painting my "Starter army; German Grenadiers" Your videos on Bolt action, was definitely a big part, of me even considering giving historic wargaming a go.
Thanks once again its just what I needed to paint my Late war German Panzer grenadier's. Keep up the great vidz , Jim Mac.
Just bought the band of brothers starter set and starting on the Grenadiers first. Great tutorial for a newbie like myself! 👍
Extremely great and helpful tutorial with all these explanations!! I am going to apply that to my Flames of War figures. Great job, mate!
Mate, this was perfect. Have just bought a lot of grenadiers and am looking forward to painting them. Do you have a video on basing techniques and how-to?
Thanks for the tutorial,it is really helpful. I too have seen conflicting opinions on German uniform colors and I think the figure looks great. I especially like the recommendations for the 15 mm figures. This was well worth the wait and I look forward to your next tutorial.
There's a huge amount of information out there about the uniforms of every nation involved in WWII, so it can be a real challenge to know where to start - which is the most reliable, which is more accurate for a certain year and so forth. It's the case of our hobby that sometimes what becomes accepted 'fact' simply isn't, like tan bread bags or "only the Canadians used the Thompson SMG in British and Dominion troops." Sometimes a bit of the fun is in diving deeper and trying to get to the root of things, but I think that for the most part Hollywood accuracy isn't too bad on the tabletop. All a matter of opinion, of course!
short sharp and sweet painting tutoriol, may go and re highlight my Grenadiers. Thanks for your upload :)
Could i use Dawnstone from citadel? Will that look early war or?
Which Citadel product is most excited about playing outside?
Agrax Earthshade, because it gets into all the recesses! :D :D
I'm trying not to groan, and yet... ;D
Great model and wonderful job, love the work on the grey/green shades...
Interesting tutorial always nice to see how others work.
In reference to the water bottles, on exercise in Canada in the summer we would keep them in a damp sock, kept the water nice and cool.
For field gray, i would submit Stormvermin Fur as a good Citadel substitute. It leans more towards the grey spectrum than green, but it works well enough for government work. Or if you just want a more Hollywood look, I guess.
Edit: Weren’t the gaiters made out of gray/green canvas, instead of beige? I love the beige looking gaiters with the field grey, but I’ve yet to see an original pair in that color. If there are any, someone let me know.
Que gran video. Rapido y sencillo. Muchas gracias desde chile.
It's very true about the felt, as the water on the damp felt evaporates it pulls out any heat in the water in the bottle.... simple science. The British bottles have the same idea, US troops had insulated bottle carriers.
Vallejo has a Fieldgrey rattle can which would speed up the process if you have multiple figures. I personally prefer Army painter Fieldgrey as it is more towards the grey spectrum that the Vallejo version.
Funnily enough, I've actually just sprayed a whole bunch of winter Germans from Warlord with that Vallejo stuff. :D
😊 very much!!!! I have issues and have gone to acrylics for my men.
The felt cover would dull any noise of the bottle clanking about.
Great video I am learning how to with paint with your technique keep up the good work
Awesome channel! Keep'em coming instant sub👍🏻
Nice. You can also use Vallejo MC Green Grey as a faded Fieldgrey.
good job this miniature is looking great
Great stuff as always! Thank you.
Have you ever tried adding some Lahmian Medium to the AP Strong Tone? It cuts down on the staining and gives a bit smoother, though slightly more transperant finish.
I wouldn't have thought of that. For the most part I like to use the shades out of the pot - or with just a little water. Mixing medium and Strong Tone is definitely worth an experiment though!
At 11:15 that is were in would leave it
thank you for the pointers.
Great tutorial!
great job really nice
I never realized that there was a difference in how Citadel and Army Painter shades behaved until I watched some of your videos. That knowledge has been very helpful as it has allowed me to choose the right one for any given application and effect I'm after.
It bothers me a little when people shrug it off in reviews and say, "They're the same colour." That's technically accurate, but doesn't really paint the whole picture - no pun intended! Glad to know it helps to have it laid out a little more. :)
I have to agree with the washes. I did not know the strong tone stained thanks for that saved me a lot of work on the repainting Field Grey.
Yet another great tutorial and just at the right time as I am painting late war Germans. One question though, in the video you mention green grey for highlighting the jacket but in the paint list you mention grey green. To add to the confusion Vallejo do both so my question is which colour is it? Thanks once again and keep up the great work as your methods for painting give good results but are one of the simplest to follow.
It's a quirk of Vallejo's naming scheme that never fails to get on my nerves, if I'm honest! Green Grey is the correct colour; I'll update the paint list here to reflect it. :)
Sonic Sledgehammer Studio thanks for the reply. I downloaded an app called paint picker on iOS and it came up with green grey which agrees with you I also had a good look at the colours in the pots and visually the green grey looks right. Any chance of a tutorial on the Hannomag painted in late war European theatre or the Warlord Hamlet?
How should I paint late war German Sturmpioniere? Is there any video on that? Thanks
Amazing video!
Nice tutorial ... I think I put too much agrax on mine ... also should have thinned the paint more. Oh well. Beginner mistakes.
Maybe I can highlight it and make it better. The problem is I put a lot of spots for their camo ... so they would all get covered. Sigh.
It would have been also very useful to watch this video to know the color of the water bottle and little pouch correctly as you say it.
The important thing is I guess that I learned from my mistakes and the next batch will be better.
Every step is part of the learning process. It sounds like you've got the right attitude already, which is the hardest part! Your next miniatures will definitely be better if you're taking each little lesson on to the next one. :)
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio thank you for the encouraging words! Certainly appreciated :)
Looks stunning old lad , face looks amazing
Thank you kindly! All simple layering, too - none of this mixing rigmarol! ;)
Are you using Model Color Green Grey (70.886) or Model Color Grey Green (70.866)?
Green Grey 886.
Vallejo's naming convention could use a little work. ;D
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio Ok, thanks.
I did mine with black primer with no major issues. I have none of it left but have a can of white primer brand new. Will I get similar results if I paint them on white?
It'll work, but the end result will be slightly brighter overall. Not so much so that they'll look shocking next to your already finished miniatures; just mix them up through units and it'll be fine!
thanks a bunch. been looking forwards to this video... as a follow up: how would you tackle a heer helmet? would it be more grey?
Aww, cack! I completely forgot to mention - I had the paints set to one side and everything. For the uncovered helmets I'd basecoat them with Vallejo's Black Grey, shade them at the same time as the rest of the miniature and then just pick out a couple highlights on the rim with Engine Grey. It's another from their Model Air line but brushes on perfectly well, and looks the business. Any mid-tone grey would work perfectly well, though.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio thx
My field gray looks so dark compared to what you have and I'm using the Vallejo stuff. How is yours so nice and green? I keep having issues with this and painting my 1/72 German infantry
Sorry didn't watch through the whole video till the end. I will try the green gray!
There's an interesting visual effect at work here! I've seen vehicle modelers refer to it as 'scale fade,' where the smaller something is, the lighter colour you'll need for it to look right. Green Grey would be one place to start, or you could try adding a drop of Pastel Green or Ivory to your field grey to get a lighter mix for your basecoats on the smaller figures.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio Thanks for the tip. Will do!
Great video, keep these Bolt Action ones coming :) Quick question, what color did you use for the "Stahlhelm" at 9:06 ?
If I'm remembering correctly it was Vallejo Grey Black first, highlighted in Engine Grey.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio what colour was the rifle? It looks so nice on the 2nd model.
Excellent👍🏻
Is the green grey you use to highlight the uniform vallejo? Iv just bought the same colour and it's practically white? Yours looks much more green
@Sonic Sledgehammer Studio Can the German army be done in Contrast paints?
What size of brush did you use to apply the field grey ?.
For the most part it'd be an Army Painter Regiment brush, or a Citadel Medium Layer brush.
Can I use a different shade from citadel?
In theory, sure. It just won't give the same result as demonstrated.
Another great video, sir! Funny timing as I just recently came into a Late War Grenadiers starter army box. Quick question for you, however as I don't want to bother you, but on the chap with the helmet... what colors did you use? Thanks.
Funny you should ask, since I had to answer this one elsewhere as well! I'd completely forgotten to explain, but here's what I'd do:
"Aww, cack! I completely forgot to mention - I had the paints set to one side and everything. For the uncovered helmets I'd basecoat them with Vallejo's Black Grey, shade them at the same time as the rest of the miniature and then just pick out a couple highlights on the rim with Engine Grey. It's another from their Model Air line but brushes on perfectly well, and looks the business. Any mid-tone grey would work perfectly well, though."
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio thank you, sir!
Could you paint a mock up of a commonwealth soldier in canadian fatigues? (basically a british model but with the canadian uniform) I just cant seem to quite figure it out.
Your like the Bob Ross of model painting!
All I can say is wow. Jealous. What color was his trousers again?
The Army Painter's Uniform Grey or Basalt Grey from Vallejo are both more or less identical for this. I think here it was Uniform Grey, though!
Thanks for the nice tutorial as always. Just as a suggestion, as you did already black armor, could you may present some ideas for white robes? best wishes
I'll need to find something with white robes! There's a few different ways of going about it, and it does depend on the result you're looking for - crisp, pristine 'future' robes, or something a little more natural-looking?
I would go for natural looking rather than future robes. I am just curious as one of my next models will be an imperial priest, which will offer blessing to my astra miltiarium soldiers.
best wishes and thanks for the reply
Looks great. Have you painted any acw?
Haven't really had the chance, honestly! It means buying a whole box of plastic for when I'm only going to paint two or three miniatures - I wouldn't know aaanybody around me that'd play ACW, unfortunately, so it's just not likely to come up.
what model kit is this?
These are the German Grenadiers from Warlord Games.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio Thank you very much and keep up the good work ;)
Nice
I've been thinking about buying one of the foundry triad paint sets
How do you find them? I have quite a few vallejo and citadel paints, but have read some good things about foundry
I've got a few of them for different skin tones and I like them a lot. They work best if you apply the base colour, shade it and then apply the second parts of the triad, I think, but they're generally very good paints. They cover about as well as Citadel layer paints of comparable shades, so consider that when you're thinking about what primer to use, but I do highly recommend them for their range of colours and the ease they're designed for.
Thank you for a yet another great video! The outcome is great, I a an avid lover of history so ww1 and ww2 minis are something I would love to paint. Are the minis you have from the Bolt Action game? (here in the UK not many ppl play it :|) Keep up the great work! PS: Great to see you have your new lamp ;)
These guys are the German Grenadiers from Warlord Games, who makes Bolt Action. Well spotted! There have been a couple of newer German infantry sets since then, and particularly their greatcoat-wearing winter themed infantry are really neat. It's good to be back and well-lit! ;)
Can I ask, do you have any tips for how to get a clean coverage with skin tone paints? Every time I try it always seems too thick or way way too watery, but in the vids I’ve watched it always seems to go on smoothly. Am I missing a trick someplace or is it just a case of needing to be super careful with how much I thin it?
nice
How long do you wait between paint coats?
Normally a couple of minutes. When you're painting in groups of 3-10 men at a time, by the time you finish the first coat on the last man, the first man should be dry. You'll get a feel for different paint manufacturers and how quickly their paint dries, as well as what thinning them with water will do. Five minutes is a good, safe estimate.
Sonic Sledgehammer Studio Even if you change colour? Five minutes and the first colour won’t blend with the second? I must be working with difficult paints.
It might be that you're applying coats slightly too generously, which slows down the drying. Or are you using enamel paints, by chance?
Sonic Sledgehammer Studio No, Tamiya acrylics. Maybe I should just spend a boring day with trial and error.
This is useful because ..... I'm painting my Bolt Action U.S. and my gaming club friend is lazy with his Axis forces. Yes that probably means I will have to paint my WW2 Germans.
Happens to the best of us! On the plus side, at least you know they're going to look great once you've had your brush on them. ;D
Question Please-Japanese Americans how would you tone the skin on American Japanese units? thank you
Darn it, wish you had made this vid awhile ago would have saved me a lot of time fafing. Like your Russian vid as well!! Do you get to play some of the games you paint so much for? Bookmarked.
I wish! The local scene for historicals is lacking, to say the least. It's Guild Ball, Freebooter's Fate, GW games or nothing. So I just keep adding a miniature or two to the army in the background for the day a horde of infantry is needed!
Are any of your episodes not VERY SPECIAL ? all seem pretty basic to me. Good but nothing special. Ha!