Milton Babbitt on Rap Music

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ต.ค. 2024
  • During a conversation with Frank J. Oteri back in October 2001, Milton Babbitt expressed his bafflement at hip-hop. Read their entire conversation on NewMusicBox: www.newmusicbox...

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  • @juliee593
    @juliee593 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This video is carved into my brain. You know how some people say they think about the roman empire several times a week? Well my brain will play me "I don't even know what hip hop is to be honest with you, do you understand hip hop? What is all this scratching of records..." at least once a month

  • @liammcooper
    @liammcooper ปีที่แล้ว +7

    cage was already featuring 'the scratching of records' in his compositions in the 1940s

  • @therealdjbc
    @therealdjbc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I’d like to sample a few seconds of this for a song. Do you folks own this video, and are you willing to give me permission to scratch up “what is all this scratching of Records?” Thanks

    • @lylecohen1638
      @lylecohen1638 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Did you do it? Lol

  • @acobster
    @acobster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    At least he admitted that he didn't understand it.

    • @juliusseizure591
      @juliusseizure591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yeah, some would just dismiss hip hop outright

    • @MorganHayes_Composer.Pianist
      @MorganHayes_Composer.Pianist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      this is true- -an indicator that he was a good teacher.

    • @psijicassassin7166
      @psijicassassin7166 ปีที่แล้ว

      The resr of the music world doesn't listen to his music either.

  • @tedalper1464
    @tedalper1464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    they cut off the clip just before he says something much more complimentary -- after the interviewer describes some of the process of scratching and setting samples of different music against each other and that, even as he finds Babbitt's music fascinating, and loves it, "But at the same time, there are things in hip-hop that I also find fascinating." Babbitt responds: "Oh, I don't doubt that for a moment! I grew up with popular music." newmusicusa.org/wp-content/uploads/nmbx/assets/32/interview_babbitt.pdf

    • @plotted_pant42
      @plotted_pant42 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      am i way off to say that he was being sarcastic?

    • @tango_doggy
      @tango_doggy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@plotted_pant42 it's very possible

    • @jimit.4220
      @jimit.4220 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@plotted_pant42 not really, babbitt loved some popular music

  • @7deepbreaths.sounds
    @7deepbreaths.sounds 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Yeah...that ending is priceless!!!♥️♥️

  • @williamwinslow6582
    @williamwinslow6582 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When you scratchin' the record you hippin' the hop.

  • @otesmusicmix2169
    @otesmusicmix2169 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    R.I.P. Milton Babbitt (1916-2011)

  • @binacaman
    @binacaman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "What is all this scratching of records?" And GET OFF MY LAWN! 🤣🤣🤣

  • @CyberLionGT
    @CyberLionGT 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    MST3K RIDING WITH DEATH brought me here!!!!!

  • @Pitts_not_Pitty
    @Pitts_not_Pitty 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, that's pretty rich coming from a composer who admits his music is rather inaccessible to most people without a great deal of knowledge of music theory as well as music history!!!

  • @ELGordoLoKo
    @ELGordoLoKo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lmao @ that ending.

  • @machida5114
    @machida5114 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Rap is just contemporary

    • @khbgkh
      @khbgkh 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wow that sentiment was more meaningless than anything Babbitt ever produced

  • @andremadethis
    @andremadethis ปีที่แล้ว

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂!!

  • @daniellu8282
    @daniellu8282 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Scratching records in rhythm sounds a lot better than scratching the E string on the violin.

  • @danterosati
    @danterosati 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    who cares if he listens lol

  • @adamedmour9704
    @adamedmour9704 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't he invent music that just goes "beep beep boop?"

  • @MrLOLfunnyvids
    @MrLOLfunnyvids 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The devil.

  • @NoMastersNoMistress
    @NoMastersNoMistress 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I understand it all too well... it's poorly written confession spoken over lame cliched beats and samples.

    • @willowpets
      @willowpets 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Aw come on, that’s like saying serialism is just a random set of notes or minimalism is just repeating the same phrase over and over. You probably haven’t been exposed to very much of it.
      I don’t listen to much rap, but my favorite rap song is “Story 2” by clipping. It tells a story in a poem and the lyricism is fantastic. It starts in 3/8, and every eight bars the time signature increases by one eighth note until we’re in 4/4. Then there’s a measure of 4/4 in triplets, before metrically modulating with triplet = eighth note and then repeating the same increase by one eighth note pattern before the song reaches 4/4 again and ends. Don’t let a few songs you dislike turn you off from an entire art form!

    • @snuppssynthchannel
      @snuppssynthchannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You should listen to Madvillain - Madvillainy. An utterly fascinating record. A modern masterpiece, might change of how you view the genre. Also recommend checking out Dälek and Death Grips.

    • @cihant5438
      @cihant5438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You gotta dig a little to find the caviar. You can do it.

    • @donmach6458
      @donmach6458 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You've proved to us that you know nothing.

    • @kennethbartholow2732
      @kennethbartholow2732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      in the same way, I all too well understand all music ever played on a piano, its just some guy lazily slapping an elephant's tusks, big deal, no works of art there

  • @SH-lc7ue
    @SH-lc7ue 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cringe.