That smoke is coming from the drain mast and breather outlet. The exhaust from the air/oil separator goes out here. Usually hot air, but when the engine is running at idle you can see smoke coming out. This is engine oil that has got past the seals. The smoke stops as the engine speeds up, the air pressure increases, and the seals work properly. Also in the main body of the mast are four holes. These are tell tale drains from various parts of the gearbox. They drain out the cavity between the accessories (starter, fuel pump, hyd pump etc.) and the gearbox.
@@scottbrettschneider9782 They would of tow the aircraft to the gate, and that runway is long enough to not use reversers in an emergency. Also that flight came from LAX so they were well under the max landing weight.
This was not an emergency, merely a heavy landing. CHILL ,,, SOME CARRIERS DO NOT HAVE EMERGENCIES! Lufthansa amongst them. Cool off ans stop the uneducated from having a heart attack.
There is absolutly no problem to land without reversers exept increasing landing distance and adapt breaking action. Smoke is coming out from engine draines.
I was on the plane heading to London Heathrow. We departed late, climbed to 15,000 ft heading east for 45 mins. The captain then came on the intercom saying that there was a flaps issue and they would not retract and we would have to return. The cabin crew said that it was a hydraulic issue. Landing and braking was firm but not overly so. No real concerns on board. Planes have issues, that's life. What was shocking bad was the support after deplaning. NO support from Virgin staff. The only info provided was from other customers. Everyone had to sort their own hot3ls. I had a replacement flight changed twice. I met a chap from Germany whose replacement flight was 2 days later. All this for a single flight cancellation! What would happen with a more serious issue?
I was on that plane too and agree with everything you said. Esp the lack of support on the ground. I got lucky and was put on a United flight the next day - but had to hustle for it and sort out all my own overnight accomodation and meals etc. I was travelling solo for work so was quite agile back on the ground, and though it was a pain in the ass I was not massively impacted. But I really felt for the families, those with kids, the elderly, people missing their vacationso or connections etc with little or no support. But one moment of light releif was the Captain - a fellow Brit - who was naturally dry about the whole thing. When we landed back at LAX he came on the intercom and said calmy "Welcome to Los Angeles - unfortunately".
@@SKYWATCHAVIATION I flew on A 350 with Virgin Atlantic 4 times & I loved 'em !!! They're super comfy !! Smoo~th departures / landings !! I highly recommend both A350 & Virgin Atlantic flights ✈️ 👌 👍👍💜🥁🐉🎤🎶💞
It was not the brakes overheating it was the engine venting. Seen this whilst I was working on aircraft for years. Always good to check the brakes from the fire section just incase they do get too hot but the crew used just enough to stop safely without too much overheating of the brakes
It was a simple case here. The snux comflupulator over pressurised and released the snoggle which in turn caused the daffle pins to shear and released the gizzle from the stubometer. The smoke you see is just friction from the crumkle plates overgyrating into the strompet causing a dramatic loss of chuff into the mongchit zone. Any decent splodget expert knows this and should be able to replace the entire drappit seal mechanism for future flights. Simples.
I was on the flight. Crew announced that there is some issue with flaps and they are returning to LAX and the landing will be a bit hard. When Aircraft entered into hold pattern, I thought there is a serious issue and they are finding some plane area in desert to land. After some left right turns, I found that Aircraft is well in control. They dumped some fuel just before landing. Landing was smooth though.
Impressive catch! Would you be okay with me featuring this landing in my series Weekly Dose of Aviation? Of course you will be credited both in the video and in the description. Thanks!
Almost looks like normal smoking that commonly comes from the oil breather vent on the bottom of the nacelle of RR Trent engines when they idle, didn’t see smoke from the left mains. G-VPOP is currently over Utah on its way back to LHR.
Fantastic show yesterday, Mr. Gaucho. Always at the right place at the right time ⏲️. Virgin Atlantic VS8 diverted back to LAX, trying to get to LHR . Good job🎉🎉🎉😊
If the brakes really did get overy hot they would have caused one or a few of the tire fuse plugs to let go deflating the tire(s). I agree with the engine vent comments. Great job by the pilots.
I've generally been a Boeing/MD fan (I still think the 727 is the most beautiful jetliner ever built) but I will gladly admit that that A350 is one graceful beast.
Lack of thrusters is not an emergency and aircraft can decelerate and vacate just like we just saw in the video. I am not certain if the smoke source is the brakes. Brake performance could be affected by high landing weight if the crew did not dump fuel. Looks like they did just fine.
There's no problem landing without the thrust reverser as long as you touch down with plenty of runway in front of you. Preferably at least 10,000 feet remaining after the touch down zone. (TDZ)
Honestly every time I see something emergency to do with the A350, 777, 787, A320, A380 I'm always never even worried. For me, these are the legends when it comes to safety, they really deliver and work the way they were meant to. Even the JAL A350 that caught fire after a landing collision, that bird handled itself well and delivered 100% its safety rating. Now, I can't say the same thing about the 737, especially the Maxes but I have a feeling after all its misfortunes, the MAX is gonna be the safest bird to fly in in the future.
I've been flying this bird for 6 good years. It's amazing aircraft in design, handling characteristics, Safety redundancy,modern backup features, economy and comfort. Like this irregularity it fairly common for pilots to troubleshoot and land this bird safely and legit.
No problem at all for this A350-1000. The crew could even adjust the BTV (Brake to Vacate) in order to vacate at a predetermined runway exit. A good demonstration of the A350's ability to cope with a landing without thrust reversers.
No biggy, they`re built & tested endlessly to withstand such events, a bit of smoke is what you`d expect particularly if they didn`t dump fuel. Hopefully they can cure the hydraulic problem there at LAX as there`s enough expertise in that area to do so. Nice capture Mr Gaucho!
Of course brakes were applied. Reverses don't. You can see the deaceleration at touch down. Brakes working with multiples combination of hydaulic systems.
To the best of my knowledge commercial aircraft are certified for brakes only landings. There’s been discussions for many years about getting rid of Thrust Reverser systems, but the manufacturers and airworthiness authorities have not bought into the idea thus far. What I’d like to know is how this aircraft ended up with both reversers inoperative. My other thought is when you get events like this, I wonder why emergency services or maintenance don’t meet the aircraft on a taxi way/hard stand to chock some wheels to reduce time the aircraft is stopped with parking brake set to help prevent wheel thermal fuse plugs blowing. I don’t know if this was the aircraft systems design, the pilots, LAX evening OATs or a combination of all three, but it was good to see that no main wheel fuse plugs released.
Hi James, It was a hydraulics issue and flaps stuck in a position as well. so I believe they were not able to use flaps extended to the landing position as well as reversers.
@@jameshales6958 Thats the most I was able to find out about the emergency, There could be details that I am missing. It was not easy to find info about it. All we know is what some of the passengers said in the comments. Thanks for Watching James!
It would have been interesting to hear what they were saying on the ground frequency and what temperatures they were getting on their thermal cameras and from the cockpit.
Yes you can see the failure s on the plane all most had no brakes and trust reverse,I wonder what kost the problem 🫤😕shout out to the pilots for that sweet landing bro ,😊 everyone is ok awesome 😎
No thrust reverses, plan for the longest runway possible, and one with the great runway gradient. Essentially the same concept as landing up a hill like they do for the runaway trucks in the US.
@mrgaucho You're welcome ! I've flown on Virgin Atlantic in 2022 summer & loved it !! Both ways ,it was very comfy & smooth !! I've been watching vlogs of various airlines & airplane channels & videos for several years & I've flown about 80 times in my life & I find British pilots very skillful & the best !! Especially after watching videos of British Airways pilot's landings against crosswinds !!! Amazing pilots !! 💛 Also their records against all odds / scary episodes show that they're indeed incredibly talented !! 👍💜🥁🐉🎤🎶🇬🇧💕💞
They can land without thrust reversers you have to use the brake and the speed brakes and the flaps at full the brake pads are gonna be very hot and they will smoke, but that’s not a big deal
Hi Kristen, In this case there was a hydraulic issue thats why they declared and emergency, flaps were also not fully deployed due the same issue, not sure about the spoilers, In a normal situation sometimes they can opt out of reversers. It was not the case in this incident, thats why they returned to lax 20 min after take off. Thanks for watching!
The hydraulic system that powers them had failed, and that's why they landed. All commercial planes must be able to land safely without thrust reversers so if the reversers were the only problem, they'd have continued the flight normally.
The problem was in the hydraulics system. Sensors likely detected a drop in pressure and alerted the pilots to the issue. And it was the thrust reversers that weren't working. Essentially deflects the thrust from the engines to help slow the plane down faster once on the ground. Planes don't actually need them, it just makes the brakes not have to work as hard and shortens the runway length needed. Also, the smoke was not from the brakes but from the oil breather outlets which is normal for these engines at slower speeds.
Still better than a crash landing resulting a total loss and possible loss of lives both in aircraft and on the ground, dumb f**k. This is normal, it can happen with any aircrafts and all these are part and parcel of this business. Airlines don’t really care and they move on. It’s all covered so they are not at loss in any case. In this case the pilots did what they are supposed to do and the these aircrafts are tested to land without thrust reversers.
A350 reversers aren’t actuated hydraulically, so a hydraulic failure won’t be why they weren’t used. Also, on dry runways, the effect of reverse thrust isn’t taken into account when calculating landing distance.
FYI those arent trucks those are engines ad well as rescue squads thats a normal response for an emergency landing, when pilot declares an emergency landing.
On average, reverse thrust (with a slight variation depending on aircraft/engine type) contributes around 10% of the total braking force during a normal landing. Wheel brakes and spoilers/speed brakes make up around 86-88% with the remaining 2-4% from the drag of the elevator once the nose has touched down and the pilot pulls back on the yoke/joystick.
How would they have known the reverse thruster wasnt working after take off? It makes sense when landing, but in flight? Must be some test that the system does to prove it wont work?
The hydraulic system that powers them had failed, and that's why they landed. All commercial planes must be able to land safely without thrust reversers so if the reversers were the only problem, they'd have continued the flight normally.
Definitely not. Worst thing you could do. Nothing wrong with these brakes. The smoke seen in the video is not coming from the brakes, but from the engine overboard vent/breather. Perfectly normal.
Rolls Royce needs to step up its game by issuing a global inspection and repair program for all XWB engines, both 97 and 84, its newest. Thank you for sharing.
I’m afraid you are wrong! The brakes are not smoking at all. The vapour that is visible is from the oil breather vent on the bottom of the engine. Very common on the RR engines at idle. Stop trying to create unnecessary drama!
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Surely you can’t be serious
If you know you know 😊
@ATCguy83
He is serious. And don’t call him Shirley.
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That smoke is coming from the drain mast and breather outlet. The exhaust from the air/oil separator goes out here. Usually hot air, but when the engine is running at idle you can see smoke coming out. This is engine oil that has got past the seals. The smoke stops as the engine speeds up, the air pressure increases, and the seals work properly.
Also in the main body of the mast are four holes. These are tell tale drains from various parts of the gearbox. They drain out the cavity between the accessories (starter, fuel pump, hyd pump etc.) and the gearbox.
@@scottbrettschneider9782 They would of tow the aircraft to the gate, and that runway is long enough to not use reversers in an emergency. Also that flight came from LAX so they were well under the max landing weight.
Yeah but wouldn't get lots of clicks if didn't say 'smoking brakes' 🤣
In order to get certification the aircraft must be able to brake without thrust reversers on a wet runway. Ridiculous clickbait video title.
Yeah, what he said!☝
This was not an emergency, merely a heavy landing. CHILL ,,, SOME CARRIERS DO NOT HAVE EMERGENCIES! Lufthansa amongst them. Cool off ans stop the uneducated from having a heart attack.
There is absolutly no problem to land without reversers exept increasing landing distance and adapt breaking action. Smoke is coming out from engine draines.
Good thing hydraulic systems are designed to limit extent of failure: flaps and spoilers were still operational, as well as brakes.
I was on the plane heading to London Heathrow. We departed late, climbed to 15,000 ft heading east for 45 mins. The captain then came on the intercom saying that there was a flaps issue and they would not retract and we would have to return. The cabin crew said that it was a hydraulic issue. Landing and braking was firm but not overly so. No real concerns on board.
Planes have issues, that's life. What was shocking bad was the support after deplaning. NO support from Virgin staff. The only info provided was from other customers. Everyone had to sort their own hot3ls. I had a replacement flight changed twice. I met a chap from Germany whose replacement flight was 2 days later. All this for a single flight cancellation! What would happen with a more serious issue?
We were on G-VPOP two days earlier. Departed LAX 2 hours late, but no other problems.
Thank you so much for the info. We were wondering what was the cause of returning to LAX. I am sorry you had to deal with this. Thanks for watching!
Glad you are safe. Better days ahead!
I was on that plane too and agree with everything you said. Esp the lack of support on the ground. I got lucky and was put on a United flight the next day - but had to hustle for it and sort out all my own overnight accomodation and meals etc. I was travelling solo for work so was quite agile back on the ground, and though it was a pain in the ass I was not massively impacted. But I really felt for the families, those with kids, the elderly, people missing their vacationso or connections etc with little or no support. But one moment of light releif was the Captain - a fellow Brit - who was naturally dry about the whole thing. When we landed back at LAX he came on the intercom and said calmy "Welcome to Los Angeles - unfortunately".
@@Ladbrooke77 so why didn’t they provide hotel and meals. Given that it wax the airline’s issue
I love the Virgin Atlantic a350 looks amazing good landing as well and surprisingly smooth for a landing like that pilots did a great job
@@SKYWATCHAVIATION I flew on A 350 with Virgin Atlantic 4 times & I loved 'em !!! They're super comfy !! Smoo~th departures / landings !! I highly recommend both A350 & Virgin Atlantic flights ✈️ 👌 👍👍💜🥁🐉🎤🎶💞
@@spark_6710 cool
It was not the brakes overheating it was the engine venting. Seen this whilst I was working on aircraft for years. Always good to check the brakes from the fire section just incase they do get too hot but the crew used just enough to stop safely without too much overheating of the brakes
It was a simple case here. The snux comflupulator over pressurised and released the snoggle which in turn caused the daffle pins to shear and released the gizzle from the stubometer. The smoke you see is just friction from the crumkle plates overgyrating into the strompet causing a dramatic loss of chuff into the mongchit zone. Any decent splodget expert knows this and should be able to replace the entire drappit seal mechanism for future flights. Simples.
That's a genius comment 😂😂😂
Can you repeat this in English, please, or Google translate 😂
....I think it go's deeper than that....!
If you put it that way it is easier to understand. Thank you.
errRight…what he said🤣
Good evening from 🏴 from Jenny ✈️✈️
Brilliant aircraft the A350. Well done to the crew and emergency services at LA. Disaster avoided 10/10.
I was on the flight. Crew announced that there is some issue with flaps and they are returning to LAX and the landing will be a bit hard. When Aircraft entered into hold pattern, I thought there is a serious issue and they are finding some plane area in desert to land. After some left right turns, I found that Aircraft is well in control. They dumped some fuel just before landing. Landing was smooth though.
Thanks for watching, I am sure it was a bit scary.
@mrgaucho yes, it scared the hell out of me when I was thinking they would land in desert 😅
Impressive catch! Would you be okay with me featuring this landing in my series Weekly Dose of Aviation? Of course you will be credited both in the video and in the description. Thanks!
Hello. I’m sorry but I’m
not authorizing you to feature this video on your channel or any reposting. Thank you
Great catch yesterday. I was only able to watch about 30 minutes of your stream but I picked the best time! Those were definitely some hot brakes!
Thanks for watching Thomas. It was a fun show yesterday!
Almost looks like normal smoking that commonly comes from the oil breather vent on the bottom of the nacelle of RR Trent engines when they idle, didn’t see smoke from the left mains. G-VPOP is currently over Utah on its way back to LHR.
Pretty routine operation, reversers are just a bonus for landing, not a requirement unless limited by runway length and contamination
Brake fires are usual? Would have been an overweight landing.
@@DeanSchaub makes sense. Was it also overweight?
Also weather conditions. During wet surfaces or snow Reverse thrust is required.
Also not all aircraft’s are equipped with fan breaks.
@@paulveitch There was no brake fire. Overweight - probably not.
@@kenjames8850 it looked like a brake fire to me
Great shots and wonderful explanation!
Fantastic show yesterday, Mr. Gaucho. Always at the right place at the right time ⏲️. Virgin Atlantic VS8 diverted back to LAX, trying to get to LHR . Good job🎉🎉🎉😊
Hi Lisa, we got lucky last night,Virgin 8 stopped right in from of our eyes. Thanks for the continuos support!
@@mrgaucho No problem 😊. It was fun. See you on the next stream.
Well documented and caught on time keep up the good work excellent video
Thanks so much!
Gosh. What a good looking plane.
Its a real beauty.
If the brakes really did get overy hot they would have caused one or a few of the tire fuse plugs to let go deflating the tire(s). I agree with the engine vent comments. Great job by the pilots.
All modern airplanes are designed to stop without thrust reversers!
No way a plane would be dispatched with no trust reversers for normal service.
@@jimprior5700 he said designed too,
Lots of planes do not have reverse thrust!
Big passenger jets absolutely do@@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935
Eventually!
I've generally been a Boeing/MD fan (I still think the 727 is the most beautiful jetliner ever built) but I will gladly admit that that A350 is one graceful beast.
Second that! One of the nicest planes I ever flew on then LATAM retired them 😢
Agreed. I started working on the 727 when I was 18 until it retired at my airline in 2001. I also think it's the best airliner ever built.
Lack of thrusters is not an emergency and aircraft can decelerate and vacate just like we just saw in the video. I am not certain if the smoke source is the brakes. Brake performance could be affected by high landing weight if the crew did not dump fuel. Looks like they did just fine.
landing was smooth as glass
There's no problem landing without the thrust reverser as long as you touch down with plenty of runway in front of you. Preferably at least 10,000 feet remaining after the touch down zone. (TDZ)
Honestly every time I see something emergency to do with the A350, 777, 787, A320, A380 I'm always never even worried. For me, these are the legends when it comes to safety, they really deliver and work the way they were meant to. Even the JAL A350 that caught fire after a landing collision, that bird handled itself well and delivered 100% its safety rating.
Now, I can't say the same thing about the 737, especially the Maxes but I have a feeling after all its misfortunes, the MAX is gonna be the safest bird to fly in in the future.
I've been flying this bird for 6 good years. It's amazing aircraft in design, handling characteristics, Safety redundancy,modern backup features, economy and comfort. Like this irregularity it fairly common for pilots to troubleshoot and land this bird safely and legit.
Respect to the pilots and ground crew - 🫡
brakes need to be replaced or inspected after that?
No problem at all for this A350-1000. The crew could even adjust the BTV (Brake to Vacate) in order to vacate at a predetermined runway exit. A good demonstration of the A350's ability to cope with a landing without thrust reversers.
I’ve landed while on so many Airbus aircraft recently without the use of reverse thrust. The advancements in standard braking have improved.
Very good plane and pilots.
I wonder if the reverse thrust works but the brake discs do not.
nice catch Gaucho! good job sir.
Thank you. We were just talking with Ben about you. How you went to point mogu the day after us
@@mrgaucho lol yes was a amazing place to see great ben give me some info 👌
@EuroAviationTV yes. We had fun.
No biggy, they`re built & tested endlessly to withstand such events, a bit of smoke is what you`d expect particularly if they didn`t dump fuel. Hopefully they can cure the hydraulic problem there at LAX as there`s enough expertise in that area to do so. Nice capture Mr Gaucho!
Hi Edward. Hopefully it can be fixed at LAX. Thanks for watching!
I watched that plane go around on a flight tracker app, and was shocked. Never thought I’d see something like that live.😮😮😮
Actually no. It was the Transponder error. So you saw it as going around in your Flight radar app.
Just kidding. 😜😜
Of course brakes were applied. Reverses don't. You can see the deaceleration at touch down. Brakes working with multiples combination of hydaulic systems.
To the best of my knowledge commercial aircraft are certified for brakes only landings. There’s been discussions for many years about getting rid of Thrust Reverser systems, but the manufacturers and airworthiness authorities have not bought into the idea thus far. What I’d like to know is how this aircraft ended up with both reversers inoperative. My other thought is when you get events like this, I wonder why emergency services or maintenance don’t meet the aircraft on a taxi way/hard stand to chock some wheels to reduce time the aircraft is stopped with parking brake set to help prevent wheel thermal fuse plugs blowing. I don’t know if this was the aircraft systems design, the pilots, LAX evening OATs or a combination of all three, but it was good to see that no main wheel fuse plugs released.
Hi James, It was a hydraulics issue and flaps stuck in a position as well. so I believe they were not able to use flaps extended to the landing position as well as reversers.
@@mrgaucho
I’m not experienced on the A350, but I question the design to lose so many systems at one time without some sort of catastrophic failure.
@@jameshales6958 Thats the most I was able to find out about the emergency, There could be details that I am missing. It was not easy to find info about it. All we know is what some of the passengers said in the comments. Thanks for Watching James!
@@mrgaucho
Thank You for your update.
Reminds me of that American Embraer from about two years ago landing at ORD with no flaps. Talk about coming in hot.
According to Mentour Pilot channel INOP reversers are normal and it does not constitute an emergency. Were they returning heavy?
Issue was lost of Hydraulics so in addition of no reversers was the fact that flaps were not fully extended
How did they know the reversers would not work? Did they try to deploy them while in the air and they wouldn't activate??
It would have been interesting to hear what they were saying on the ground frequency and what temperatures they were getting on their thermal cameras and from the cockpit.
When did this happen?
It was on Wed. Thanks for watching!
@@mrgaucho Thank you. This so recent. I initially thought it might have been years ago. Like 5 or ten years ago.
@@kazzicup Hi , very fresh , 2 days a go. thanks for the message and for watching
An excellent video well presented glad everything went well. Regards
Yes you can see the failure s on the plane all most had no brakes and trust reverse,I wonder what kost the problem 🫤😕shout out to the pilots for that sweet landing bro ,😊 everyone is ok awesome 😎
No thrust reverses, plan for the longest runway possible, and one with the great runway gradient.
Essentially the same concept as landing up a hill like they do for the runaway trucks in the US.
great job by the pilot
Bingo.
He just wait, haha
You mean he landed the plane? 😆
@@mopaysmoziland made the aircraft stop with no reverse.
@@EmeryE2 long runway
Did they dump fuel before returning to lax?
Yes. Over Barstow. Thanks for watching
Normaly the brakes didn‘t overheat to much cause Airbus has break cooling fans on the landing gear axles
What’s going on with the a350
Amazing landing under the circumstances 👏 👏👏👏👏💜🥁🐉🎤🎶✈️💕💞
Yes, The pilots were great, thanks for watching!
@mrgaucho You're welcome ! I've flown on Virgin Atlantic in 2022 summer & loved it !! Both ways ,it was very comfy & smooth !! I've been watching vlogs of various airlines & airplane channels & videos for several years & I've flown about 80 times in my life & I find British pilots very skillful & the best !! Especially after watching videos of British Airways pilot's landings against crosswinds !!! Amazing pilots !! 💛 Also their records against all odds / scary episodes show that they're indeed incredibly talented !! 👍💜🥁🐉🎤🎶🇬🇧💕💞
They can land without thrust reversers you have to use the brake and the speed brakes and the flaps at full the brake pads are gonna be very hot and they will smoke, but that’s not a big deal
Hi Kristen, In this case there was a hydraulic issue thats why they declared and emergency, flaps were also not fully deployed due the same issue, not sure about the spoilers, In a normal situation sometimes they can opt out of reversers. It was not the case in this incident, thats why they returned to lax 20 min after take off. Thanks for watching!
I’ve seen those brakes smoke even with a regular landing
How did they know that the thrust reverser would not work, while in the air?
great landing being very easy on the brakes using all the runway no problem with doing that, maybe even the discs were ok too
That was smooth 🤙
Some of the best pilots in the business 👍🏼
All commercial planes are designed to land at maximum landing weight using only the brakes, with no reversers. This is not a "big emergency".
Why the heck reverser is not deploying in a new plane? And it is not even a Boing. Is that part of the engine issues with the A350?
That was the engine breather at the bottom off engine it does that!
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Could commercial planes also use parachutes for more drag on landing, like military jets do?
The simple answer is no. Are you repacking a giant parachute in the 30 to 45min of turn around time?
No, and they don't need to.
Oh...what a silly question
Why didn't they spray a bit of mist on the gear to cool it...
Did it crash ?
Great catch! 👍👍
The brakes have fan inside to cool the pads
How would the pilots know the thrust reversers were not working before the aircraft has landed?
The hydraulic system that powers them had failed, and that's why they landed. All commercial planes must be able to land safely without thrust reversers so if the reversers were the only problem, they'd have continued the flight normally.
@@beeble2003 Thanks for answering, Knew there had to be an explanation 👍
Question to commercial pilots: How can you determine your brakes are gone in mid-flight, or was that just speculation?
The problem was in the hydraulics system. Sensors likely detected a drop in pressure and alerted the pilots to the issue. And it was the thrust reversers that weren't working. Essentially deflects the thrust from the engines to help slow the plane down faster once on the ground. Planes don't actually need them, it just makes the brakes not have to work as hard and shortens the runway length needed. Also, the smoke was not from the brakes but from the oil breather outlets which is normal for these engines at slower speeds.
@@cjames0723 Many thanks! ✌️
When did the incident happen was it today at lax
Hey Jamie, It was last night (Wednesday). Thanks for watching
@@mrgaucho thanks
Gear inspection, brake change, and wheel tires. Expensive landing.
Not as expensive as a crash!
Nonsense.
Still better than a crash landing resulting a total loss and possible loss of lives both in aircraft and on the ground, dumb f**k. This is normal, it can happen with any aircrafts and all these are part and parcel of this business. Airlines don’t really care and they move on. It’s all covered so they are not at loss in any case. In this case the pilots did what they are supposed to do and the these aircrafts are tested to land without thrust reversers.
A350 reversers aren’t actuated hydraulically, so a hydraulic failure won’t be why they weren’t used.
Also, on dry runways, the effect of reverse thrust isn’t taken into account when calculating landing distance.
Hi, well then maybe is part the issues that the RR Engines have been having on A350-1000's as this plane was a 1000 series. Thanks for the input !
FYI those arent trucks those are engines ad well as rescue squads thats a normal response for an emergency landing, when pilot declares an emergency landing.
At least the fire department didn’t ask to spray to cool the brakes. That can be quite costly. If your flying and the officer say no.
Wow awesome flying without over half of the normal braking it could been real bad
Wrong!
😂
On average, reverse thrust (with a slight variation depending on aircraft/engine type) contributes around 10% of the total braking force during a normal landing. Wheel brakes and spoilers/speed brakes make up around 86-88% with the remaining 2-4% from the drag of the elevator once the nose has touched down and the pilot pulls back on the yoke/joystick.
Reversers inop is neglectible problem
I've never seen an emergency landing at our airport; Would be interesting to see for sure
Great landing, great safe landing, great job! 🛩💺👌👍
Thanks for watching Andrea !
My mums friend was on that flight she was a flight attendant
She hot?
That will be fine 😊
How would they have known the reverse thruster wasnt working after take off? It makes sense when landing, but in flight? Must be some test that the system does to prove it wont work?
The hydraulic system that powers them had failed, and that's why they landed. All commercial planes must be able to land safely without thrust reversers so if the reversers were the only problem, they'd have continued the flight normally.
Shouldn’t the emergency services spray water onto the smoking brakes to cool them down?
Definitely not. Worst thing you could do. Nothing wrong with these brakes. The smoke seen in the video is not coming from the brakes, but from the engine overboard vent/breather. Perfectly normal.
Great out for VA @ LAX
The emergency that never was.
Landing without the reverse thrusters is not that big of deal. They can be MEL’
Hit clouds of snow❤
Scarebus A350! 😱
I wonder if all the passengers inside considered somehow putting all their feet onto the tarmac and doing a Fred Flintstone stop!🙃
It was so close to overrunning and LAX doesnt have a dirt runway at the end
Hey Landon, Yes it used most of the runway, I believe they have a stopway at the end. Thanks for watching!
they were going to In N Out for dinner
@@qshrek what???
Give the man a raise. He just saved lives and a very expensive plane.
The a350 now has 3 incidents! It’s very unbelievable that it all happened at 2024!
Rolls Royce needs to step up its game by issuing a global inspection and repair program for all XWB engines, both 97 and 84, its newest. Thank you for sharing.
Guess that would be after good old Boeing physically inspects all its planes that are anything but safe.
Stop deflecting.
How did they know the T/R's weren't working?
Hi Jim. If you look at the landing roll you see how the TR are not in use. Thanks for watching
@@mrgaucho They obviously knew the T/R's were inop before landing since emergency equipment was waiting for the aircraft.
Amazing how this incident received almost no news coverage because- it didn't involve a Boeing aircraft!
GOD BLESS AMERICA
Wow so amazing
What's e deal? Planes are designed to land without Rev. They not credited
not very reassuring....what happened to back-up systems...I mean, its not as if loss of hydraulics is a biggie or anything...jesus...
Planes land without reversers all the time.
Titles a bit misleading must have some braking, or it wouldn't stop at all.
Even thrusters spy lite❤
Bet the flight crew were really pumped.
Airbus...Simply...
I’m afraid you are wrong! The brakes are not smoking at all. The vapour that is visible is from the oil breather vent on the bottom of the engine. Very common on the RR engines at idle.
Stop trying to create unnecessary drama!