I never heard about this movie before I have seen it on the TV. It was uninspired, boring, flat, had no big idea. Everything at least mildly interesting there is taken from mad max, moby dick, terminator and several cheap old comedies. The premise is nonsense (oceans simply can not go so high). It is a OK C-movie.
It was considering a "flop" because of how little it initially made at the box office in comparison to it's extremely high production budget. @ Petr. The oceans absolutely could go that high if all or most of the ice at the 2 poles melted. In fact the oceans have been much higher than they are now (see Pangea).
Steve - Pangea is completely different thing, if we are talking about continental drift, that has nothing to do with ice. If all the ice on earth melted, the oceans would rise less than 220 feet (cca. 65 meters). So no Netherlands or Florida, but most of the landmass would still be untouched. for a long time (for example late Cretaceus), there was no or almost no ice on earth.
Yea I think the Critics were out of touch even then. What he said about people may never see it because of what some idiot said is true. Even today people hop on that train..... But it wasn't a bad movie and atleast people back then had the excuse they got wrapped up in the high of bad news.
My dad worked on waterworld. He was there for the shaman and all. He was Kevin's friend (great guy) he been telling me for years how the movie wasnt a flop and did great internationally and was bummed for the bad wrap it got in the us. Truly one of a kind picture. Fun fact jack black was in the film as a jet ski guy.
Water world was a amazing movie. All movies in the 90s was better then the movies today. And yes black jack was in it. He was the pilot. But please tell me more about water world. Like we're was it made at.
I was literally talking about this movie with my wife yesterday. She had never seen it. and I listed it in my own "so bad its great" list from the 90s /00s We are watching it tomorrow. I've loved this movie since I was an early teen.
Right? It fed me a ridiculous premise and then managed to get me to suspend my disbelief. It had action, adventure, drama, and comedy. They even managed to cast Costner in a role where his sometimes wooden acting actually suited the character. Not only did I watch it enough to damage the VHS tape it was on I also watched the ABC extended cut when it was on TV and spent years trying to (eventually succeeding) hunt down a copy of that extended cut to watch again. It's one of my list of must watch films for a post-apocalyptic movie marathon alongside A Boy and His Dog, and Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior.
same...in Hungary where i am from this movie was huge...then i moved to canada and people told me that this movie was a bust back in its days, and i was like "what are you talkign about??"
@@R0ndras yeah the gap between the european and american movie market is huge (well specially on the older movies) . i am not sure if you know them but Bud Spencer and Terrence Hill movies for example are some of the most watched movies backhome here they dont even know about them. The movie "The Intouchables" was all over europe winning hearts, in the us they literally just made the same movie with kevin hart "the upside" and when i tell people that its literally a copy of a movie that is not even old people have no idea about it.
I think it has more to do with Kevin Costner and not the movie itself. He became blacklisted when he did the movie JFK. Like it or not, but the media is owned by corporate interests that also own most of Congress, and they can't risk a star like Kevin Costner was back in the day to be involved with movies like JFK that start to get the masses to question official stories. The elite don't want smart people, they want people easily manipulated and controlled, and the easiest way to do that is through entertainment.
It's only considered an awful movie by film critics which are about the worst judges of the quality of a film as you can get. The real people liked water world just fine.
And yet whenever this film is on TV, I'll watch it through, in whatever version. There's something unique and monumental about it. And Dennis Hopper is hilarious. It's proper cinema.
@@charislinos I think the concept of waterworld is amazing. and always what kept me coming back to watch it. Perhaps it was just too soon for that type of story then. But now. Would be pretty epic for sure.
I really do miss those big, practically shot, blockbusters. Even when they aren't great, seeing all that money on screen gives the movie a tangible quality that a lot of the modern pixel-soup blockbusters don't have.
brian19991 Can we give Miller an unlimited budget to remake or create a sequel to Waterworld? I feel it would be even more immersive shot with modern technology.
The biggest reason Waterworld was a "disaster" is because the theatrical release excluded EVERY SINGLE SCENE THAT GAVE THE CHARACTERS DEPTH. I saw the director's cut on ABC TV the one night it was aired, in the mid-90's, and I was SO disappointed when I bought the VHS tape a few weeks later and all of my favorite scenes were missing. It took the studio 14 GODDAMN YEARS to release a DVD of the director's cut.
Yep,when the entire environment is CGI it's hard to suspend disbelief and buy into the reality of it. It's just too inauthentic to believe, let alone become immersed in the story. Done right, it can really add to the movie, imo. But when it's overdone, it's like watching a computer game that you can't even control. Maybe it _is_ an age thing, but cgi movies make me yearn for the bad - but real - special effects without computers.
I’ve only seen a handful of circumstances where CGI was actually terrible. Most of the time it’s great. Most People don’t really want to go back to stop motion animation and puppet monsters xD
The sinking of the atoll set did not happen. The object that sank was the slaver’s tower, a minor floating piece that appears briefly in the scene where the Mariner uses the reverse periscope to discover Smokers hiding underwater. One of the links that held two of the eight floating platforms that made up the atoll was damaged during a storm, but it did not take on water and did not sink. These two stories got mashed together and reported in the news falsely as the atoll sinking. I was the lead engineer for the atoll floating platforms and know this first hand.
It's so weird when people like this guy find TH-cam videos about shit they were involved in. Like was he searching TH-cam for Waterworld videos? Did he see it just randomly in his feed? Or was he subscribed to this channel and was like "oh shit, I worked on this movie"?
@@CerealKiller You say most people follow critics, but most people tend to hate critics and don't listen to them. Everyone I know who likes the critic reviews are people who can say why they agree with critics before looking at critic reviews. However, everyone else I know doesn't listen to critics in the slightest and only listens to audience reviews.
what is the subtext? Is that scene supposed to show us that he is a good guy who does ultimately care for Enola and Helen? Because not long after that he goes back to being a jerk to them. What happens that finally makes him decide that he's going to teach Enola how to swim and that they are worth saving?
@@Gurrehable that's not subtext, and it no paper doesn't equal money in the context of the movie. It a barter system and I get that paper is rare, but what I didn't get is why should the audience care about this scene. It doesn't really make The Mariner likeable as a hero, like it was probably intended to do. It doesn't push the plot forward, and either there is zero subtext, or it's so thick that the majority people didn't get it. lol
@@joemangione3117 paper is slang for money in our day and age, and has been for a very long time. It's such a well known slang that it's basically a synonym. People like money and would do a lot to get money, and people have been known to sell people for money, despite money in itself being completely useless, while the people are what is actually important. This is what the murman in Waterworld realizes (people are important, things are not) and this realization is what turns him into an actual good guy. Not saying it's a great scene, but that is the subtext.
I've never watched the movie before, but I've seen the live performance at Universal Stuidos, and that show is so fucken exciting to watch. It's like 20 minutes or more of non stop explosions and people doing backflips off of platforms, while being chased on jet skis , it's like a whole Michael Bay project right infront of your eyes. A+ 10/10
I was 16 when I watched WaterWorld in the cinema, I remembered it very well, it was a great movie. After many years I watched it on TV several times, I still think it's a good sci-fi.
I loved this movie because it's fun and I liked the practical effects without today's CGI. Today's CGI is great, but we can still tell them apart in major scenes.
After seeing the CGI used in Logan that I would have never been able to notice without being told and then shown. His berserker scene at the end was absolutely amazing and I would have never knew it wasn't him. Amazing what we don't see when CGI is done by true professionals.
It's nice to hear that I'm not the only one in the world that liked the movie. I wondered if I was crazy for a while . Thanks for the typically great post.
Well as a kid I loved it and am glad they made it family friendly! I do see how adults could like it more had it not have been but would families be able to see/watch it together if that were the case? Not as likely. Either way, I enjoyed it!
@@PSYCKYO Well the topic was why the movie failed overall. You know real good old Disney's classics where great hits but imagine if they made a movie like Cinderella but 18+ with nudity, swearing, drug use and ultra gore scenes. Many would have enjoyed it but it would probably have been a commercial failure. Even then, a 18+ Disney movie would probably do a lot better like Japanese animated movies. There's nothing family friendly about a post apocalyptic world. The last Mad Max is a great example of how it should be done. The third Mad Max also was a failure because they made it a bit family friendly. When you try to please everyone, you often end up pleasing no one.
I saw this movie before the Road Warrior, it blew my mind as a kid. In fact I think it was a better pirates movie than the Pirates of the Caribean's first movie, which was highly cheered by everyone.
@@MankindFails I think you failed to watch the entire video. It didn't fail overall! Watch the video again! Also, when you try to please everyone you tend to please everyone but yourself and the haters! You may not please everyone and you may not please yourself but you will please the majority! (I am only speaking about movies of course) If you look at anything the majority was or is pleased with those individual creators succeeded in pleasing the majority.
@@JuiceBoxScott I don't know if you have seen all the Mad Max movies, but I think MM2 The Road Warrior is the best of the lot. Imaginative, action-filled, tense, but with a delicious sense of humour in there as well, it's still an object lesson to this day. I went to see Waterworld to see if it was as bad as its reputation, and was very pleasantly surprised. It would knock the misjudged borefest fiasco that was Prometheus out of the park.
Never even knew that Waterworld was considered a "flop" at some point. It was already a cult hit of sorts few years later The N64 game, Duke Nukem: Zero Hour from 2000 even has an entire secret level parodying the Water World's floating city, called "the wet world". Even includes the tomato shop, the balloon and the mud pits.
At the time it was well known that Costner basically did what is now known as a Tom Cruise: changing the script constantly to put more emphasis on his role. That not only made it way more expensive, it made the continuity of the movie very difficult and sometimes impossible to mantain. All the fighting behind the scenes between Costner, the directors, the scriptwriters and the studio points to this and as a result it went way, way over budget. Costner wanted everything to be perfect for what was to be his masterpiece, and perfection is expensive. Kevin Costner made a string of very succesfull movies and thus expectations were very high for Waterworld. Costner was at that moment considered "too big to fail" and got what for all means and purposes could be seen as a blank cheque to make this movie, because his name would ensure that it would become another blockbuster movie. With the expectations for Waterworld being so high and all the changes in the script and stages being far more expensive than calculated, Costner ran the risk that in the end the movie would become só expensive that it wouldn't make a decent profit. And that's what happened: in comparison to the costs the movie didn't make the expected profit and is thus considered a flop. Waterworld was too pretentious, too expensive, too much changed along the way and way less succesfull than previous Costner movies, costing him his "too big to fail status." As a story it doesn't make much sense and as a movie it has numerous plotholes, bad scripts and dialogues and poor characters (except Costners of course).
To be honest it IS a cult hit movie... but at the time they were expecting a huge "Titanic/ Jurassic Park" type blockbuster... so going from Blockbuster to having a cult following is considered to be a failure in the eyes of Hollywood. I am glad this movie ended up turning a profit in the end though, more risks need to be taken now a days like this, everything being done seems too safe in my opinion.
Teemuslayer Oh no? Not even the fact that it was the laughing stock of Hollywood when it was out? This really must be a college thing somewhere because I’ve never met one person that liked Water World at all. Not one ever. Never heard a single positive review or opinion on it until some of the comments here. It was never even a movie that was so bad it was good or funny.
@@rise5558 In the early 20 when i was a little kid it always showed this movie on tv and i just instanly liked it because it was so different like the movies premase that everything is on water and there is no land that was just amazing even if the whole movie was flawed
The Mt Everest shot is a great concept, the equivalent of the Statue Of Liberty in Planet Of The Apes. Cutting it out is sheer intellectual and aesthetic blindness.
very well put Hollywoods primary talent is sheer intellectual and aesthetic blindness it is stunning how often a non moviemaking professional public so clearly can see that what the movie making experts do is what makes the movie a failure like Karate Kid the only reason it wasnt just another boring karatemovie is that the director refused to take out the scene where miyagi is drunk and mourns hes wife who died in the japanese concentration camp in USA during the war but the producers pressed him saying "it slows the movie down" just cut it out, lets get things going i dont believe for a second that it is lack of talent actually i am sure that it is a tool of the propaganda machine to create soulless movies to crush the human spirit, that is another story and topic...
@@fluff7773 If you ever pause the movie when you see the girl's tattoo and google the coordinates you'd find it was everest all along. I've known for 20 years!
No, it, ain't!! No where even close.. it's a souped up b-action, with very poor, dull acting.. And worse of all, it could have been great! Just like any other grotesquely expensive movie with shit scripts, actors, directors and producers, like the new Mad Max movie for example being one of the most poorly made, shitty movies of all time in pretty much every single way! Except for effects. Actually, it even makes water world look great in comparison. And other examples are of course pretty much any Marvel movie entirely or for the most part. So what qualifies a good, great or even fantastic movie you ask? Especially when it comes to the action genre! Well.. here are a few very obvious examples.. Terminator 1 and 2 (there isn't any more made than that btw ; ), Aliens, Alien 3 (Half the first half at least) (and also there aren't more than 3 made) Heat (thriller-action) The last action hero (yes, it's not fantastic or great, but good overall, especially the first 2/3) The Bourne trilogy, (Again, only three exists) Ronin to some extent. The unusual suspects, The first and one and only: Speed, Jurassic park, Jaws, Predator, Blade Runner (parts of it, mostly the music, scenery and environments) The duel - a thriller (Spielbergs feature film), some early Bond movies though of course quite corny for the most part. And a few more that I can't remember right now.. But there aren't many through the film history to be honest! The action genre is kind of like the comedy genre. There are just so many good timeless pics that still holds up! Oh and of course! How could I forget! "Hard Target" (Van Damme).. just kidding! hehe!
Agreed, but that was only one of the problems with this movie. As a start, the premise of the movie was a total looney joke. I mean, who the hell believes that all land would be underwater if all the ice on the planet melted?
@mike york You dumb fucks are trying to destroy the world. You are like a bunch of mad scientist promising heaven when all you will produce is hell. The world has been heating up sinse the last ice age, and its natural. Now you want to believe that once the glaciers melt there will be no land left. God, what freakin idiots!
Oh yeah watching this movie is practically a family heirloom. Me, my parents, and even my grandparents all love it. And one day my kids will watch it lol
I'm a 90's kid and loved this movie so much that I eventually bought it on Blu-ray. I've owned it on VHS and DVD before finally upgrading to a full HD copy and the movie looks so good in 1080P.
Fortunately for us old folks, HD resolution isn't important if we like the story. We grew up with 9" B&W TV's that had vertically rolling pictures. Of course, we also had great, big old elaborate movie theaters (with mezzanines and balconies, too, where the couples could hide from the world and make out!) with 100 foot screens as the norm, and it didn't cost a weeks pay to go to the theater. You could stay in the theater and re-watch it as many times as you wanted, nobody kicked you out, there was always a 'B' movie as every show was a double feature, AND we had great WB cartoons in between the movies.
@@d.e.b.b5788 That was definitely before my time. The cheapest multi-plex theater tickets I can remember as a child were six dollars for the twelve to four o'clock showings and you couldn't stay for another viewing unless you payed for another ticket. I collect Blu-ray's as a hobby plus it's nice to see old movies restored to theater quality but I get what you're saying. There are several old movies pre 90's that I have on dvd that I just can't bring myself to upgrade for nastalgia reasons.
Honestly, the first time i heard the Waterworld was a flop, i thought people were joking. It was one of the biggest movies in the the 90s here, right next to Independence Day, Speed and Terminator 2. I grew up with this movie. Watched it in the theatre, then got it on VHS and after that it was running on cable more than Home Alone is for Christmas. Today i even rewatched in again (the 100th time was long time ago) with the extended cut and i can easily say it's even more impressive TODAY than it was 30 years ago with the insane amount of practical effects and stunts. Yes, the little CGI it has feels dated, but the practical effects are rivaling the biggest blockbusters in history. You can practically feel the atmosphere this movie builds. I get sun burn just by watching Kevin Costner's face drying in the wing after a dive.
Loved Waterworld. My favorite part was when the little girl is telling how Costners character will come for her and how he will kill them and they wont see it coming...and the camera view changes and Costner is doing exactly what she said he would do.
Lol doesn't matter. People back then thought that the immensely huge costs represented Costner's pride. So they did their best to pick it part, talk bad about the movie, and make sure everybody dislikes the movie so that they can prove Costner wrong and make him suffer for his so-called "pride". They succeed in making it a flop on release.
Btw people back then have no actual, solid evidences that Costner is being prideful though. Just negative preconceptions that soon gathered public and media momentum. But that's how human beings are - Whenever we assume things, we will always treat our own assumptions as already representing the absolute truth, and that we can never be wrong etc.
Or Pearl Harbor. The only good thing about it was the action scenes but the movie altogether was fucking terrible. Waterworld is better lol. I know one is based off true events but never understood why people were so in love with that movie.
7:15 that "local stuntman" was legendary surfer Laird Hamilton, who was helping coordinate water stunts and overseeing safety. He was living on Maui and the show was being filmed off the big island. They were doing the jetski stunts and he wanted to use his own jetski, so he decided to drive his out from the island out to the set. He ran into some terrible fog, plus the current was double the speed that day. He was about 60 miles off course and low on gas by the time the fog cleared. Luckily for him he had a tracking device on which led the coast guard to him, 60 miles north of Hilo ("you're a needle in a hay stack, you're going to Alaska after that, it's pretty much over, it's open sea") and he credits his life to it. He tells the story in a very Laird way, totally matter of fact, but it's pretty terrifying.
Taking a single engine anything out in ocean at distance is a risk (planes are notable) , besides the Ocean risk in itself. A jetski? LOL , yep lucky he ain't dead. professional surfer or not
yeah when they say it sucks you remember it has dennis as the villain and then you realize whoever said it sucks obviously sucks themselves. its just not possible for a movie to suck with dennis in it to such a degree as this, simply wont ever happen
Agree, that movie is a masterpiece (done on a budget) . And I write this as someone who doesn't even likes cars in general. Never drove one in 10+ years since I got my driving license
Honestly I feel like Fury Road gives is a great run for its money, and this is coming from someone who grew up obsessing over Road Warrior as a kid. Fury is refreshing in there are zero attempts to try and make some redemptive character development plot out of the story, instead the *main character* is merely a facilitator of the action, which is really what the film is about. One thing Fury has that Road Warrior doesn't have, is an utterly outstanding sounds production, as well as music; mostly thanks to newer technology, but it still stands above all other action movies of the era.
@@mabehalzuqyadeek Thank you! I sold it a little while back- I'm really thinking that the decision to do that I was a big mistake! I miss it terribly...
Not really. Something being a cult classic implies that it was not successful in it's initial release and only gained popularity much later. Water world was plenty successful in it's initial release and most people thoroughly enjoyed it. The fact that it's production was a nightmare and they didn't make as much money on it as they could have because of huge budget overruns and there was all the bickering and infighting amongst the crew is revisionist history that nobody outside the studio cared about then or now.
I never understood the hate about this movie, it's one of my favorites from my teens. Granted in the 90's as a teenager I didn't know or care a flip about movie budgets or behind the scenes shenanigans. That's probably the movie that gave me my love for post-apocalyptic, dystopian type films.
I feel like the part of your conclusion where you declare “CGI is the future,” really glosses over the fact that, in spite of its problems, Waterworld does have some incredible visuals that hold up today. The same can’t be said of CGI-heavy productions made a decade later in the early 2000s. The production problems here may be storied, but ultimately they got through it. Where this movie fell apart was in the editing bay, and on the page of the script, and if those parts had worked, we’d probably be remembering Waterworld as a legendary epic film.
I think he was describing the path the industry took in that conclusion. CGI is just much safer. You don't have to deal with weather conditions, building giant props that could fall into themselves or outdoor on set catering, and people don't get lost at sea for a whole day or almost get run over by boats. xD That CG in the early 2000s loox like crap today but we learned from it and it paved the way to what we have today where so much can be completely modeled from nothing and the audience is none the wiser. From the Starwars prequals we learned how rubbish it loox making EVERYTHING in CG so now they often take mixed approaches where part of the sets are actually built so the characters actually interact with varying terrain and actions scenes can look more organic.
It's amazing how a group of grown men can't get along with each other to make a movie. Waterworld is by far the best classic of its time and its one of my favorite movies.
I always knew in my heart it was not a failure....I loved it then....and now thanks to this informative and cool video ....I so want to see the long cut.
it has a truly vital line of dialogue that was edited out of the theatrical version...something about our way of life being out of control and thats what caused the world to flood
also I only realized that Jack Black was in it when I watched that ultra extended version...he always has the big goggles on and never talks during the scenes they didnt delete...Yes Jack Black was in Waterworld!!!
This movie is a lot better than the movies that are produced today which are over hyped and don't get that much talk about after release. I mean fair play to the 2 Kevin's for making such a difficult movie to shoot especially and most people to say it was a awful movie and a flop.I think the outcome of this was pretty good for it's day. One of my favourite movies along with saving private Ryan and braveheart.
Oh yes, one of those "tEHy DoNt mAKe AnY THinG NoW lIek ThEy UsEd To!!11" people. That's cute. That's great. Nostalgia blinded zombies like you are unbelievably pathetic. I guarantee there are at least 5 movies currently playing now that are better than this trash was. Of course, you don't sound like you've tried to watch anything since 2002, so your opinion is automatically trash. The people like you who say things like this are always people who don't seek OUT any good modern movies or give anything a chance, just so you know that you can say you aren't wrong or anything. Good fucking lord, plenty of good movies are made with intelligence, integrity, strong writing, and great direction, still. But then again, why am I even trying to lecture common sense to someone who chooses fucking Waterworld as the hill they wish to die on as an example? Grow up and watch a real movie.
@@the-NightStar shut up idiot , this was real art, huge sets,real danger, lots of passion put into the movie to become real, you are so ignorant and inmature, you are typing the same shit all over this comment section, fucking troll with nothingnbetter to do.
@@joelroserojara133 have you seen infinity war or any marvel movie, in fact even avatar(a mediocre film) is better then waterworld. Real art? CGI is art. real danger on the set is not transformed into the movie. Have you seen Fury road? there is a lot of passion in any film And seriously I am genuinely tired of people saying movies back then were good and now they are bad.
I was a shit film back then and even more so today, i hate stupid idiots using that "Back then they made real movies blabla" fucking parrot you cannot even think for yourself. Just repeat what the internet spews in your lap...weak asf
@@jacobring7274 absolutely star wars latest movies are like anti-movies everytime i have seen one , afterwards i feel like i have seen five movies less then i had before i started watching
Waterworld lives. The love that's come for it since ain't going away. The scene where he teaches enola to swim always grabs my heart, its very sweet and the music is perfect.
Joe Dirt Exactly. And that makes it gold. All "big budget" movies now days are filmed in warehouses on green screens and look like the Jews stole all the money and just claim it costs $100 million to make.
"Jews" etc etc , please don't sound like an idiot. movies today are actually made with a lot of practical effects still, it's a myth that people like to complain that everything is CGI.
When I finally got to see it, "Water World" proved very entertaining, and frankly my jaw was on the floor at all the stunts in that movie! It's a wonder nobody was killed. SECRET: It's a Spaghetti Western writ large, with KC as "The Man with No Name."
@@StneCldKilla Oh god, I still say this every single time I use "Half an Hour." In any sort of conversation. I was an early teenager when I first saw this movie and that was what stuck with me for some weird reason. "We'll be there in half an hour...( under my breath) ...Half n hour, half n hour half n hour." Every single time! It annoys the crap out of my man.
9:49 Good old Joss Whedon, always ready to blame someone else for his failures. According to him, he's never made a bad movie or wrote a lousy script in his life.
@@the-NightStar we're serious, you just listen to whatever the corporate media tells you to think, you want to be in line with the majority because youre a small person and you believe the TV when it tells you "this is what most people think." or youre just antiwhite so of course you hated it
I fell in love with this movie when I was a kid. It was the first time I had heard of climate change in such a drastic way. The first post apocalyptic movie I ever saw. And I thought that the story was super good even if later on I would see the contrivances for what they were.
I've always enjoyed Waterworld. It had such a unique style of cinematography and such an interesting premise. I never knew about the Everest shot. That would have been one of the most interesting shots in the movie had it been in the original.
I freaking loved Waterworld... But, I like a lot of famously bad movies... I much prefer Judge Dredd over Dredd... I love Super Mario Brothers, and Demolition Man :D The 90s had some fun, dumb movies... Though, watching Demolition Man the other day, I realized it's not nearly as dumb as it's pretending to be... No joke, it's a film adaptation of "Brave New World". It's not even subtle about it... At one point, Wesley Snipes flat out says, "It's a Brave New World" Sandrah Bullock's character is named Huxley, after the author Alduous Huxley, and Stalone's character is frequently referred to as a "savage", referencing one of the protagonists of Brave New World. I don't know who managed to smuggle such a brilliant literary classic into the blockbuster action movie market... but bravo, bravo!
Yeah I loved all those movies as well, they have their charm lol. But I do feel like Dredd did get it right over judge dredd, the accuracy was near perfect to the source material and it made a lot of fans happy in that regard. But the Sylvester Stallone version was fun, I still think about how the hell the sea shells would work lmao
Ye, can't forget Batman vs Superman. That was a master piece of epic proportions! :D I actually mean that, I burst out laughing repeatedly watching that movie. It... just.. has so much movie magic going on, entangled scripts fighting for dominance, an overacting villain, a completely nonsense climax, and tons of money burning behind the scenes. I love it xD
Oh, man. CutThroat Island was terrible lol. Though I still owned it on VHS for years. The music score was great, but Gina Davis dropped the ball playing Morgan. Waterworld however, I did like very much. Not too big a fan of Dennis Hopper though
@Viktor Blomstergren waterworld only made 40 million after all the costs and outlays so I was referring to the profit margin I guess not the attendance. Cutthroat island cost over 100 mill to make and only grossed 10 mill in the states. Obviously I'm just using a little rhetoric by quoting the word flop, but it was hardly a sucess regarding ticket sales... Sorry to offend you 😉
@@believein1 yes I can still watch it today and enjoy it... It was epic for myself growing up and watching this. Full of action and traces of quirkyness and moments of comedy
The old guy in the oil compartment always cracked me up. 'oh thank god' lol
Oldy Oleson!
"Four feet, nine inches of blaaaaack stuuuuff"
I wish sumbodee would spat in my face you lucky bausterd.
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lol Same here. Sweet release. 😂
my favorite scene as well.
I never understood why this movie always got bad press, the look and idea of the movie are great.
Gossip my friend gossip. Its a deadly poison
I never heard about this movie before I have seen it on the TV. It was uninspired, boring, flat, had no big idea. Everything at least mildly interesting there is taken from mad max, moby dick, terminator and several cheap old comedies. The premise is nonsense (oceans simply can not go so high). It is a OK C-movie.
It was considering a "flop" because of how little it initially made at the box office in comparison to it's extremely high production budget.
@ Petr. The oceans absolutely could go that high if all or most of the ice at the 2 poles melted. In fact the oceans have been much higher than they are now (see Pangea).
It was the most expensive movie of all times (at the time) so maybe expectations were just too high. I've always liked it.
Steve - Pangea is completely different thing, if we are talking about continental drift, that has nothing to do with ice. If all the ice on earth melted, the oceans would rise less than 220 feet (cca. 65 meters). So no Netherlands or Florida, but most of the landmass would still be untouched. for a long time (for example late Cretaceus), there was no or almost no ice on earth.
Im 32 and i always loved water world.. I saw that movie 6 times it RULES!
Yea I think the Critics were out of touch even then. What he said about people may never see it because of what some idiot said is true. Even today people hop on that train..... But it wasn't a bad movie and atleast people back then had the excuse they got wrapped up in the high of bad news.
The problem with real life is there's no danger music.
@@Tomgd420 Like Alita.
When referencing goes over heads ☝🏼😆
@@firthlaist218 shhhhh dont tell them.
My dad worked on waterworld. He was there for the shaman and all. He was Kevin's friend (great guy) he been telling me for years how the movie wasnt a flop and did great internationally and was bummed for the bad wrap it got in the us. Truly one of a kind picture. Fun fact jack black was in the film as a jet ski guy.
I was certain he was the pilot.
@@mrnobody6447 He was he was a pilot
Water world was a amazing movie. All movies in the 90s was better then the movies today. And yes black jack was in it. He was the pilot. But please tell me more about water world. Like we're was it made at.
Costner's character should have had a shark-like shlong with teeth. It could bite bad guys and eat flies and shrimp!
@@iamthatiam4637 The video literally says it was made in Hawaii.
I don’t care what anybody says I freaking love this movie, nonsense and all, It is STILL COOL!!
I’ve watched it more than 10 times!
Sarah Lunafire ditto! I still think it’s a great film...
Sarah Lunafire saw your Channel Sarah, you've got some cool stuff, like the way you think.
I was literally talking about this movie with my wife yesterday. She had never seen it. and I listed it in my own "so bad its great" list from the 90s /00s We are watching it tomorrow. I've loved this movie since I was an early teen.
100% agree. Love this movie to. A Classic. :) Costner should make his own Waterworld 2 ;)
Right? It fed me a ridiculous premise and then managed to get me to suspend my disbelief. It had action, adventure, drama, and comedy. They even managed to cast Costner in a role where his sometimes wooden acting actually suited the character.
Not only did I watch it enough to damage the VHS tape it was on I also watched the ABC extended cut when it was on TV and spent years trying to (eventually succeeding) hunt down a copy of that extended cut to watch again.
It's one of my list of must watch films for a post-apocalyptic movie marathon alongside A Boy and His Dog, and Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior.
I never understood why this movie is/was considered bad. It's one of my favorit post apocalyptic movies.
same...in Hungary where i am from this movie was huge...then i moved to canada and people told me that this movie was a bust back in its days, and i was like "what are you talkign about??"
@@stojo33 Same in Spain. For several years they would show this movie several times a year on TV and always got a lot of audience.
@@R0ndras yeah the gap between the european and american movie market is huge (well specially on the older movies) . i am not sure if you know them but Bud Spencer and Terrence Hill movies for example are some of the most watched movies backhome here they dont even know about them. The movie "The Intouchables" was all over europe winning hearts, in the us they literally just made the same movie with kevin hart "the upside" and when i tell people that its literally a copy of a movie that is not even old people have no idea about it.
I think it has more to do with Kevin Costner and not the movie itself. He became blacklisted when he did the movie JFK. Like it or not, but the media is owned by corporate interests that also own most of Congress, and they can't risk a star like Kevin Costner was back in the day to be involved with movies like JFK that start to get the masses to question official stories. The elite don't want smart people, they want people easily manipulated and controlled, and the easiest way to do that is through entertainment.
It's only considered an awful movie by film critics which are about the worst judges of the quality of a film as you can get. The real people liked water world just fine.
It took me 20 yrs to see this movie. When I finally did I wasn’t disappointed. Good movie.
You are delusional and wrong.
@@the-NightStar Care to elaborate? I think it's a great film.
Yea; I loved it!
I also liked No Escape too!
tiabran Let’s not go too far.
Camille McALoon The mid 90s movie ( No Escape ) with Ray Liotta
“Dry land is not a myth!!!!” Waterworld is better than 99% of the cgi filled garbage released today.
Indeed!
Water World, the Postman these movies had an intuitive story building that most modern movies lack (See Disney Star Wars trilogy)...
@@Fenris77 Both movies i loved very much and proud to have in my collection.
@@zehdarian81 Indeed.
Sadly I don't have them, recorded them from cable TV once...
Well, it's a lot cheaper to use CGI instead of actual set pieces. Imagine Aquaman filmed underwater.....
@@hashtagunderscore3173 True it is cheaper and of course the quality of the movie in question suffers for it...
I really liked this film. It was crazy and hilarious.
It was neither. You are objectively wrong.
I enjoyed it.
No escape was a good one too!
I agree, fuck the critics, I enjoyed it, and paid to see it. So there! :P
Ice pirates and Cherry 2000 are cool absurd action flicks.
And yet whenever this film is on TV, I'll watch it through, in whatever version. There's something unique and monumental about it. And Dennis Hopper is hilarious. It's proper cinema.
I consider ..its best for a Remake ! This movie and story has to done again ..
@@charislinos I think the concept of waterworld is amazing. and always what kept me coming back to watch it.
Perhaps it was just too soon for that type of story then. But now. Would be pretty epic for sure.
Proper cinema is the right word. But don't worry, nowadays we have Sonic the hedgehog movie, and two more movies about those damn mutant turtles.
The whole premise was retarded. If all the ice caps melted it would be at most 200 feet of water rise worldwide, yet somehow it covered all the land?
So right ha, every time I see it on I watch it.
Waterworld is awesome. Last of the live-action effects epics.
Agreed! I loved it.
Not the last, Mad Max Fury Road is BY FAR the last of live action real effects epic films!!! And good god it is THE KING!!!
@@raymondnewbill5294 😃
@Sativa Rommola 😂
@Sativa Rommola it sure did.. I forgot about that, lol
As a sailor myself this movie was sick and that guy was badass
I really do miss those big, practically shot, blockbusters. Even when they aren't great, seeing all that money on screen gives the movie a tangible quality that a lot of the modern pixel-soup blockbusters don't have.
Mad Max Fury Road has a lotta tangible stuff (The storm is not one lol) and it shows
#MeToo
@@brian19991 I still love that scene. Superstorms of that magnitude can reality.
brian19991 Can we give Miller an unlimited budget to remake or create a sequel to Waterworld? I feel it would be even more immersive shot with modern technology.
EoS pound me too?
The biggest reason Waterworld was a "disaster" is because the theatrical release excluded EVERY SINGLE SCENE THAT GAVE THE CHARACTERS DEPTH. I saw the director's cut on ABC TV the one night it was aired, in the mid-90's, and I was SO disappointed when I bought the VHS tape a few weeks later and all of my favorite scenes were missing. It took the studio 14 GODDAMN YEARS to release a DVD of the director's cut.
Agreed, there is a Ulysses cut that has all the cut-out footage, the movie is a classic that never got the cut it deserved.
Waterworld was a great goddamn movie and I'll have words with any fool who disagrees!
Great summer movie, that deliver on an action packed adventure.
@Evil The Boogeyman He said he'll discuss the issue with people who disagree with him.
Only liberals do that nowadays? Hummm...
I enjoy watching it, but it is a terrible movie.
Facts son!
Waterworld is a crazy-bad movie.
I'll take a movie with practical effects and stunts over cgi garbage any day.
Translation: I'm old and technology scares me.
@@lazylightning1197 Translation: I'm sick of the shallow, blatantly fake looking CGI ruining movies.
Yep,when the entire environment is CGI it's hard to suspend disbelief and buy into the reality of it. It's just too inauthentic to believe, let alone become immersed in the story.
Done right, it can really add to the movie, imo. But when it's overdone, it's like watching a computer game that you can't even control.
Maybe it _is_ an age thing, but cgi movies make me yearn for the bad - but real - special effects without computers.
I’ve only seen a handful of circumstances where CGI was actually terrible. Most of the time it’s great. Most People don’t really want to go back to stop motion animation and puppet monsters xD
@@aeringothyk5445 CGI games were cool but CGI movies was not.
The sinking of the atoll set did not happen. The object that sank was the slaver’s tower, a minor floating piece that appears briefly in the scene where the Mariner uses the reverse periscope to discover Smokers hiding underwater. One of the links that held two of the eight floating platforms that made up the atoll was damaged during a storm, but it did not take on water and did not sink. These two stories got mashed together and reported in the news falsely as the atoll sinking. I was the lead engineer for the atoll floating platforms and know this first hand.
You did an amazing job. I adore the scene where the generator is activated and the lights come on.
How did he do with everything else?
Could a few slaves really row an oil tanker? That doesn't seem physically possible to me and totally unbelievable
@@dougrogan379 Haha I don't think so. This movie was pretty funny in some moments.
It's so weird when people like this guy find TH-cam videos about shit they were involved in. Like was he searching TH-cam for Waterworld videos? Did he see it just randomly in his feed? Or was he subscribed to this channel and was like "oh shit, I worked on this movie"?
I don’t understand people hating this movie, I legit liked it.
Yeah mother used to love this movie
@@CerealKiller You say most people follow critics, but most people tend to hate critics and don't listen to them. Everyone I know who likes the critic reviews are people who can say why they agree with critics before looking at critic reviews. However, everyone else I know doesn't listen to critics in the slightest and only listens to audience reviews.
I don't care what anyone says. I like Waterworld.
Me too. I only don't care for that gill thing.
same here brother
"I like it allot!"
OK then
The scene where he almost traded people for paper is one of the most underrated scenes in movie history.
The subtext is thick.
It’s Paper ! Paper!
what is the subtext? Is that scene supposed to show us that he is a good guy who does ultimately care for Enola and Helen? Because not long after that he goes back to being a jerk to them. What happens that finally makes him decide that he's going to teach Enola how to swim and that they are worth saving?
@@joemangione3117 paper = money.
@@Gurrehable that's not subtext, and it no paper doesn't equal money in the context of the movie. It a barter system and I get that paper is rare, but what I didn't get is why should the audience care about this scene. It doesn't really make The Mariner likeable as a hero, like it was probably intended to do. It doesn't push the plot forward, and either there is zero subtext, or it's so thick that the majority people didn't get it. lol
@@joemangione3117 paper is slang for money in our day and age, and has been for a very long time. It's such a well known slang that it's basically a synonym. People like money and would do a lot to get money, and people have been known to sell people for money, despite money in itself being completely useless, while the people are what is actually important. This is what the murman in Waterworld realizes (people are important, things are not) and this realization is what turns him into an actual good guy. Not saying it's a great scene, but that is the subtext.
Waterworld is easily one of my favourite films, and my wife's too. I've never understood why it got such negative reviews.
Really?
@@hellbenderdesign Yeah, and he and his wife are not alone. Though, I wouldn't call it one of my favorite, but it was certainly a good movie.
Because clickbait is a drug and "journalists" love handing it out like candy.
Same thing with Cutthroat Island and Long Kiss Goodnight
I wish it would’ve done better, it was such a cool idea for a movie and it was set up perfectly for a sequel
I don't get it, Waterworld is literally one of my all time favourite movies.
Yep. People hate it, I love it. A tad long though.
@Crow What about the man who said "resin" and "half an hour"? Such a wholesome character.
It wasn’t all that bad
You like crappy movies, nothing wrong with that.
@@Spills51 It's a wonderful movie.
Personally, I loved it. Kevin Kostner has nothing to be ashamed of here.
I've never watched the movie before, but I've seen the live performance at Universal Stuidos, and that show is so fucken exciting to watch. It's like 20 minutes or more of non stop explosions and people doing backflips off of platforms, while being chased on jet skis , it's like a whole Michael Bay project right infront of your eyes. A+ 10/10
Yes, I have seen that show in 1997, with the jetskis going underwater like in the movie, it was the best show I had seen.
I love my parents for taking me there in the 90s when I thought the back to the future thing was amazing
I was 16 when I watched WaterWorld in the cinema, I remembered it very well, it was a great movie. After many years I watched it on TV several times, I still think it's a good sci-fi.
Considering how tough it must have been to film entirely on water, agreed.
Dennis hopper stole the show lol he was always an awesome villain.
Most of the villains do, Tim Curry in Legend, Alan Rickman in Robin Hood, Micheal Ironside in Heavy Metal 2000, the list goes on :D
He and Bob Hoskins and Jon leg were the only thing good about the super Mario bros movie. And he was a fantastic villain in land of the dead
@Hannibal Barca Oh, of course Nicholson! Really, anything where he's a "bad guy" he is awesome at :D
The point when the big actor playing the villian notices the movie ain't gonna be a masterpiece and just enjoy their role.
Yes especially in Super Mario Bros lol
I loved this movie because it's fun and I liked the practical effects without today's CGI.
Today's CGI is great, but we can still tell them apart in major scenes.
Lol no we can't - it's just that you see bad CGI.
Exactly.
After seeing the CGI used in Logan that I would have never been able to notice without being told and then shown. His berserker scene at the end was absolutely amazing and I would have never knew it wasn't him. Amazing what we don't see when CGI is done by true professionals.
@@velianlodestone1249 check your eyes
It's nice to hear that I'm not the only one in the world that liked the movie. I wondered if I was crazy for a while . Thanks for the typically great post.
GOOSE AF I used to think I was, too
my dad has made me watch this movie like 100 times
@@alipr2928 so the question then is did you like it?
Real problem is that they tried to make it family friendly. Particularly a bad idea when you do a post apocalyptic movie.
Well as a kid I loved it and am glad they made it family friendly! I do see how adults could like it more had it not have been but would families be able to see/watch it together if that were the case? Not as likely. Either way, I enjoyed it!
@@PSYCKYO Well the topic was why the movie failed overall. You know real good old Disney's classics where great hits but imagine if they made a movie like Cinderella but 18+ with nudity, swearing, drug use and ultra gore scenes. Many would have enjoyed it but it would probably have been a commercial failure.
Even then, a 18+ Disney movie would probably do a lot better like Japanese animated movies. There's nothing family friendly about a post apocalyptic world. The last Mad Max is a great example of how it should be done. The third Mad Max also was a failure because they made it a bit family friendly.
When you try to please everyone, you often end up pleasing no one.
Couldn't have said it better.
I saw this movie before the Road Warrior, it blew my mind as a kid. In fact I think it was a better pirates movie than the Pirates of the Caribean's first movie, which was highly cheered by everyone.
@@MankindFails I think you failed to watch the entire video. It didn't fail overall! Watch the video again! Also, when you try to please everyone you tend to please everyone but yourself and the haters! You may not please everyone and you may not please yourself but you will please the majority! (I am only speaking about movies of course) If you look at anything the majority was or is pleased with those individual creators succeeded in pleasing the majority.
"What´s your budget for this movie?"
"Yes"
LMAO
Yes...
"All of the above"
"In fact you talk all the time! It's like a STORM when you're around!"
*Throws girl in ocean*
This movie is another childhood classic for me.
What is man? A miserable little pile of secrets!
Glad to see someone finally clarify that this wasn’t a financial failure after all. I’ve been telling people that for years!!!
I guess i have bad taste in movies because I love this one. Always have.
I think there are some weak points but over all it is one of the better movies.
I love my bad taste
Which must be true because I also like John Carter
Me too
@@Heavywall70 dude I liked waterworld a lot and jon carter it's on netflix now!
@@Heavywall70 John Carter is one of my favorite movies. I wish there were sequels. Disney screwed up their marketing for that movie.
It was mad max on the water for sure. I loved this flick.
yeah, except better than mad max
@@JuiceBoxScott I don't know if you have seen all the Mad Max movies, but I think MM2 The Road Warrior is the best of the lot. Imaginative, action-filled, tense, but with a delicious sense of humour in there as well, it's still an object lesson to this day.
I went to see Waterworld to see if it was as bad as its reputation, and was very pleasantly surprised. It would knock the misjudged borefest fiasco that was Prometheus out of the park.
@@JuiceBoxScott lmao not even close
Never even knew that Waterworld was considered a "flop" at some point.
It was already a cult hit of sorts few years later
The N64 game, Duke Nukem: Zero Hour from 2000 even has an entire secret level parodying the Water World's floating city, called "the wet world". Even includes the tomato shop, the balloon and the mud pits.
At the time it was well known that Costner basically did what is now known as a Tom Cruise: changing the script constantly to put more emphasis on his role. That not only made it way more expensive, it made the continuity of the movie very difficult and sometimes impossible to mantain. All the fighting behind the scenes between Costner, the directors, the scriptwriters and the studio points to this and as a result it went way, way over budget. Costner wanted everything to be perfect for what was to be his masterpiece, and perfection is expensive.
Kevin Costner made a string of very succesfull movies and thus expectations were very high for Waterworld. Costner was at that moment considered "too big to fail" and got what for all means and purposes could be seen as a blank cheque to make this movie, because his name would ensure that it would become another blockbuster movie. With the expectations for Waterworld being so high and all the changes in the script and stages being far more expensive than calculated, Costner ran the risk that in the end the movie would become só expensive that it wouldn't make a decent profit. And that's what happened: in comparison to the costs the movie didn't make the expected profit and is thus considered a flop.
Waterworld was too pretentious, too expensive, too much changed along the way and way less succesfull than previous Costner movies, costing him his "too big to fail status." As a story it doesn't make much sense and as a movie it has numerous plotholes, bad scripts and dialogues and poor characters (except Costners of course).
it still is. lol
To be honest it IS a cult hit movie... but at the time they were expecting a huge "Titanic/ Jurassic Park" type blockbuster... so going from Blockbuster to having a cult following is considered to be a failure in the eyes of Hollywood. I am glad this movie ended up turning a profit in the end though, more risks need to be taken now a days like this, everything being done seems too safe in my opinion.
Teemuslayer Oh no? Not even the fact that it was the laughing stock of Hollywood when it was out? This really must be a college thing somewhere because I’ve never met one person that liked Water World at all. Not one ever. Never heard a single positive review or opinion on it until some of the comments here. It was never even a movie that was so bad it was good or funny.
@@rise5558 In the early 20 when i was a little kid it always showed this movie on tv and i just instanly liked it because it was so different like the movies premase that everything is on water and there is no land that was just amazing even if the whole movie was flawed
This movie was and is one of the best movie, they don't make movies like this anymore and I feel Sad about this.
Stop this Water world is amazing.
disaster lol it´s on my top 10 best movies ever made XD
Why not both?
Venom pretty much pulled that out for me not so long ago.
I was only a little kid when Waterworlds release. In all honesty I thought it was awesome !
I saw it in theater too when I was like 9. I thought it was a blast.
This movie is still awesome .
f*** all the haters.
@Bush Doctor Try that logic with Matrix
Saw this movie last night. Never realized what a masterpiece it was. I love the deleted scene where they find a marker showing mount Everest.
The Mt Everest shot is a great concept, the equivalent of the Statue Of Liberty in Planet Of The Apes. Cutting it out is sheer intellectual and aesthetic blindness.
very well put
Hollywoods primary talent is sheer intellectual and aesthetic blindness
it is stunning how often a non moviemaking professional public so clearly can see that what the movie making experts do is what makes the movie a failure
like Karate Kid the only reason it wasnt just another boring karatemovie is that the director refused to take out the scene where miyagi is drunk and mourns hes wife who died in the japanese concentration camp in USA during the war
but the producers pressed him saying "it slows the movie down" just cut it out, lets get things going
i dont believe for a second that it is lack of talent actually i am sure that it is a tool of the propaganda machine to create soulless movies to crush the human spirit, that is another story and topic...
Wasn't there another scene where they dove down to friggin' New York City? One of those scenes definitely had to go if it was to be believable.
Absolutely agree
This was the first time I saw that shot, it definitely should have been in the film.
@@fluff7773 If you ever pause the movie when you see the girl's tattoo and google the coordinates you'd find it was everest all along. I've known for 20 years!
Waterworld was fuckingawesome I don't care what you say
And a partial nude scene with Jeanne Tripplehorn didn't hurt either :)
A 1,000 thumbs up for both comments, the movie was brilliant.
Waterworld is a masterpiece, don't know how anyone liking dystopian science-fiction movies wouldn't think that too :D
No, it, ain't!! No where even close.. it's a souped up b-action, with very poor, dull acting.. And worse of all, it could have been great! Just like any other grotesquely expensive movie with shit scripts, actors, directors and producers, like the new Mad Max movie for example being one of the most poorly made, shitty movies of all time in pretty much every single way! Except for effects. Actually, it even makes water world look great in comparison. And other examples are of course pretty much any Marvel movie entirely or for the most part. So what qualifies a good, great or even fantastic movie you ask? Especially when it comes to the action genre! Well.. here are a few very obvious examples.. Terminator 1 and 2 (there isn't any more made than that btw ; ), Aliens, Alien 3 (Half the first half at least) (and also there aren't more than 3 made) Heat (thriller-action) The last action hero (yes, it's not fantastic or great, but good overall, especially the first 2/3) The Bourne trilogy, (Again, only three exists) Ronin to some extent. The unusual suspects, The first and one and only: Speed, Jurassic park, Jaws, Predator, Blade Runner (parts of it, mostly the music, scenery and environments) The duel - a thriller (Spielbergs feature film), some early Bond movies though of course quite corny for the most part. And a few more that I can't remember right now.. But there aren't many through the film history to be honest! The action genre is kind of like the comedy genre. There are just so many good timeless pics that still holds up!
Oh and of course! How could I forget! "Hard Target" (Van Damme).. just kidding! hehe!
AGREEEED!
Waterworld ROCKS!!
@@Superknullisch, so you don't like Alien, Moon and Total Recall, right?
I agree, I put it right up there with " The Postman " as one of my favorite post apocalypse films.
Ironic how the whole movie is about water and every single person in it looks like they need a long, hot, scrubbing bath. LOL
justcallme... can’t do much with salt water
Agreed, but that was only one of the problems with this movie. As a start, the premise of the movie was a total looney joke. I mean, who the hell believes that all land would be underwater if all the ice on the planet melted?
@@ATAATX In a 100 years we might know it!
@@CrniWuk Yea, in a hundred years we will know it's a load of hooey.
@mike york You dumb fucks are trying to destroy the world. You are like a bunch of mad scientist promising heaven when all you will produce is hell. The world has been heating up sinse the last ice age, and its natural. Now you want to believe that once the glaciers melt there will be no land left. God, what freakin idiots!
This movie will always have a special place in my heart. Great movie
Oh yeah watching this movie is practically a family heirloom. Me, my parents, and even my grandparents all love it. And one day my kids will watch it lol
This and The Postman were seriously underrated.
Waterworld yes, The Postman no.
The postman is one of the greatest movies ever, such an insane story but penned beautifully
I agree. I thought I was the only one till I heard Patrice Oneal on O &A
My 11 year old son watches & loves both!! Postman is an awesome movie, plus its got Tom Petty, cmon’
I feel like watching The Postman when i return to a Fallout game.
I'm a 90's kid and loved this movie so much that I eventually bought it on Blu-ray.
I've owned it on VHS and DVD before finally upgrading to a full HD copy and the movie looks so good in 1080P.
Fortunately for us old folks, HD resolution isn't important if we like the story. We grew up with 9" B&W TV's that had vertically rolling pictures. Of course, we also had great, big old elaborate movie theaters (with mezzanines and balconies, too, where the couples could hide from the world and make out!) with 100 foot screens as the norm, and it didn't cost a weeks pay to go to the theater. You could stay in the theater and re-watch it as many times as you wanted, nobody kicked you out, there was always a 'B' movie as every show was a double feature, AND we had great WB cartoons in between the movies.
@@d.e.b.b5788 That was definitely before my time.
The cheapest multi-plex theater tickets I can remember as a child were six dollars for the twelve to four o'clock showings and you couldn't stay for another viewing unless you payed for another ticket.
I collect Blu-ray's as a hobby plus it's nice to see old movies restored to theater quality but I get what you're saying.
There are several old movies pre 90's that I have on dvd that I just can't bring myself to upgrade for nastalgia reasons.
Honestly, the first time i heard the Waterworld was a flop, i thought people were joking. It was one of the biggest movies in the the 90s here, right next to Independence Day, Speed and Terminator 2. I grew up with this movie. Watched it in the theatre, then got it on VHS and after that it was running on cable more than Home Alone is for Christmas. Today i even rewatched in again (the 100th time was long time ago) with the extended cut and i can easily say it's even more impressive TODAY than it was 30 years ago with the insane amount of practical effects and stunts. Yes, the little CGI it has feels dated, but the practical effects are rivaling the biggest blockbusters in history. You can practically feel the atmosphere this movie builds. I get sun burn just by watching Kevin Costner's face drying in the wing after a dive.
Movie was amazing. They just don't make movies like this anymore, and that makes me sad.
CGI is a movie plague.
Real effects were getting pretty amazing in the 90s, and if shitty CGI hadnt come along they d have kept improving.
@@nikoskabbadias CGI gets better just look at infinity war
Unless you consider Fury Road. Which is 1000x better than Waterworld.
It was so awful. Wtf are u talking about
@@diadokhoi5722 CGI gets better but it's still CGI. Nothing beats real explosions on real sets.
it really makes that line in Cable Guy even funnier knowing there is actual history behind it.
This was and is still one of my Favorite movies.
Loved Waterworld. My favorite part was when the little girl is telling how Costners character will come for her and how he will kill them and they wont see it coming...and the camera view changes and Costner is doing exactly what she said he would do.
I like Costner arguring with the little girl in front of her mom
*....but I actually liked this movie. lmao*
And why would this be "funny"? How can this movie be NOT liked and adored by anyone in their right mind?
me 2. the scenario where there is no dryland anymore, got me interested.
Lol doesn't matter. People back then thought that the immensely huge costs represented Costner's pride. So they did their best to pick it part, talk bad about the movie, and make sure everybody dislikes the movie so that they can prove Costner wrong and make him suffer for his so-called "pride". They succeed in making it a flop on release.
Btw people back then have no actual, solid evidences that Costner is being prideful though. Just negative preconceptions that soon gathered public and media momentum. But that's how human beings are - Whenever we assume things, we will always treat our own assumptions as already representing the absolute truth, and that we can never be wrong etc.
Creux
The Postman & Dancing With Wolves // WTF? Could Go Wrong?
Great video. And I always loved Waterworld. The music, scenery, stunt work was really remarkable.
This movie was amazing. I don't care what anyone else thinks.
I’m sure I will be there in about an Italian morning to see if I can find out what time to meet up this week
Thank you, Mr. Abrahams.
There’s much worse movies like suicide squad or captain marvel.
I agree. I miss a lot of the type of films we got in the 90's.
Or Pearl Harbor. The only good thing about it was the action scenes but the movie altogether was fucking terrible. Waterworld is better lol. I know one is based off true events but never understood why people were so in love with that movie.
7:15 that "local stuntman" was legendary surfer Laird Hamilton, who was helping coordinate water stunts and overseeing safety. He was living on Maui and the show was being filmed off the big island. They were doing the jetski stunts and he wanted to use his own jetski, so he decided to drive his out from the island out to the set. He ran into some terrible fog, plus the current was double the speed that day. He was about 60 miles off course and low on gas by the time the fog cleared. Luckily for him he had a tracking device on which led the coast guard to him, 60 miles north of Hilo ("you're a needle in a hay stack, you're going to Alaska after that, it's pretty much over, it's open sea") and he credits his life to it. He tells the story in a very Laird way, totally matter of fact, but it's pretty terrifying.
Damn I remember him from an episode of rob dyrdeks fantasy factory
Absolute legend of the big wave surfers
Well he's the dumbass who was too cheap to spring for a GPS.
Laird should have known better, but then so should have Eddie
Taking a single engine anything out in ocean at distance is a risk (planes are notable)
, besides the Ocean risk in itself. A jetski? LOL , yep lucky he ain't dead. professional surfer or not
Bruh it’s a classsiiicccck. Mad max meets the Ocean r u kidding me? Amazing
Ya a flop? Everyone I've ever know liked that movie
@@whyteisrealyte I know! It's because they don't make movies like this anymore. Handmade. Everything relys on cg. Ima gamer and I hate cg movies. 😂
Yea man i loved it.
Milli W 🤣
just dislike the video and move on, never watch this channel again, hes a fucking twat
It's actually a pretty good movie. Dennis Hopper stole the show as usual. That in itself makes it worth seeing.
yeah when they say it sucks you remember it has dennis as the villain and then you realize whoever said it sucks obviously sucks themselves. its just not possible for a movie to suck with dennis in it to such a degree as this, simply wont ever happen
@@sewme7861
This is true.
And yet another amazing channel that's going to make me watch a ton of movies again for the Nth time.
Mad Max 2/the Road Warrior is still the best post apocalyptic movie to date
Damn straight!
Agree, that movie is a masterpiece (done on a budget) . And I write this as someone who doesn't even likes cars in general. Never drove one in 10+ years since I got my driving license
Honestly I feel like Fury Road gives is a great run for its money, and this is coming from someone who grew up obsessing over Road Warrior as a kid. Fury is refreshing in there are zero attempts to try and make some redemptive character development plot out of the story, instead the *main character* is merely a facilitator of the action, which is really what the film is about. One thing Fury has that Road Warrior doesn't have, is an utterly outstanding sounds production, as well as music; mostly thanks to newer technology, but it still stands above all other action movies of the era.
The postman? Book of Eli?
@@sounavailable I love how the bad guy steps out like it's wrestlemania!! Mic in hand and all!!!
Actually is rated 4 stars and is regularly played in the rotation on HBO
Nice atc250r
@@mabehalzuqyadeek Thank you! I sold it a little while back- I'm really thinking that the decision to do that I was a big mistake! I miss it terribly...
i think its safe to say, water world has hit cult status. ive always loved it (more than any mad max)
Not really. Something being a cult classic implies that it was not successful in it's initial release and only gained popularity much later. Water world was plenty successful in it's initial release and most people thoroughly enjoyed it. The fact that it's production was a nightmare and they didn't make as much money on it as they could have because of huge budget overruns and there was all the bickering and infighting amongst the crew is revisionist history that nobody outside the studio cared about then or now.
I never understood the hate about this movie, it's one of my favorites from my teens. Granted in the 90's as a teenager I didn't know or care a flip about movie budgets or behind the scenes shenanigans. That's probably the movie that gave me my love for post-apocalyptic, dystopian type films.
Cheesy action, hilarious lines, Mad Max on Water. I’m in.
I feel like the part of your conclusion where you declare “CGI is the future,” really glosses over the fact that, in spite of its problems, Waterworld does have some incredible visuals that hold up today. The same can’t be said of CGI-heavy productions made a decade later in the early 2000s. The production problems here may be storied, but ultimately they got through it. Where this movie fell apart was in the editing bay, and on the page of the script, and if those parts had worked, we’d probably be remembering Waterworld as a legendary epic film.
I think he was describing the path the industry took in that conclusion.
CGI is just much safer.
You don't have to deal with weather conditions, building giant props that could fall into themselves or outdoor on set catering, and people don't get lost at sea for a whole day or almost get run over by boats. xD
That CG in the early 2000s loox like crap today but we learned from it and it paved the way to what we have today where so much can be completely modeled from nothing and the audience is none the wiser.
From the Starwars prequals we learned how rubbish it loox making EVERYTHING in CG so now they often take mixed approaches where part of the sets are actually built so the characters actually interact with varying terrain and actions scenes can look more organic.
@wannabchomsky And look at The Hobbit for the exact opposite in quality.
The Island was the mount Everest!!!, now I know.
I never knew there was any cut other than the one where it's revealed to be Mt. Everest.
@@Gottaculat That's a shame, as they sensored some of the best lines in the TV directors cut, its only been restored in the limited edition Bluray.
it was? ??
i never saw the mount everest scene
Of course its Mount Everest.... Even as a child i thought "hm it must be a very high Mountain"
@@Mr_Dink True! Simply because the map on the girl, that is the center of the movie, was in an Asian language.
It's amazing how a group of grown men can't get along with each other to make a movie. Waterworld is by far the best classic of its time and its one of my favorite movies.
"I dont know what all the fuss was about. I saw that movie six times, It rules!" Exactly.
After watching this, I have to see cable guy again and go buy the Ulysses cut of Water World
I have and will always love Waterworld, warts and all. Good video, dude!
Lesson one, don't shoot in the most expensive location just so you've got a good hotel.
I always knew in my heart it was not a failure....I loved it then....and now thanks to this informative and cool video ....I so want to see the long cut.
watching this movie as a kid, i always had great fun
it has a truly vital line of dialogue that was edited out of the theatrical version...something about our way of life being out of control and thats what caused the world to flood
also I only realized that Jack Black was in it when I watched that ultra extended version...he always has the big goggles on and never talks during the scenes they didnt delete...Yes Jack Black was in Waterworld!!!
This movie is a lot better than the movies that are produced today which are over hyped and don't get that much talk about after release. I mean fair play to the 2 Kevin's for making such a difficult movie to shoot especially and most people to say it was a awful movie and a flop.I think the outcome of this was pretty good for it's day. One of my favourite movies along with saving private Ryan and braveheart.
Mark Griffin hell yeah dude, so agree, fuck todays movies😂
Oh yes, one of those "tEHy DoNt mAKe AnY THinG NoW lIek ThEy UsEd To!!11" people. That's cute. That's great.
Nostalgia blinded zombies like you are unbelievably pathetic. I guarantee there are at least 5 movies currently playing now that are better than this trash was. Of course, you don't sound like you've tried to watch anything since 2002, so your opinion is automatically trash. The people like you who say things like this are always people who don't seek OUT any good modern movies or give anything a chance, just so you know that you can say you aren't wrong or anything.
Good fucking lord, plenty of good movies are made with intelligence, integrity, strong writing, and great direction, still. But then again, why am I even trying to lecture common sense to someone who chooses fucking Waterworld as the hill they wish to die on as an example? Grow up and watch a real movie.
@@the-NightStar shut up idiot , this was real art, huge sets,real danger, lots of passion put into the movie to become real, you are so ignorant and inmature, you are typing the same shit all over this comment section, fucking troll with nothingnbetter to do.
@@joelroserojara133 have you seen infinity war or any marvel movie, in fact even avatar(a mediocre film) is better then waterworld. Real art? CGI is art. real danger on the set is not transformed into the movie. Have you seen Fury road? there is a lot of passion in any film
And seriously I am genuinely tired of people saying movies back then were good and now they are bad.
I was a shit film back then and even more so today, i hate stupid idiots using that "Back then they made real movies blabla" fucking parrot you cannot even think for yourself. Just repeat what the internet spews in your lap...weak asf
Waterworld in 5 seconds... Humanity has evolved to grow gills but the Kawasaki wave runners are still functioning just fine...
ye, bad fantasy, intellectual incest, actual incest , hollywood has got it all...
@@torrace12 would rather watch this 5 times in a row than watch Disney's The Last Jedi.
@@jacobring7274 absolutely star wars latest movies are like anti-movies
everytime i have seen one , afterwards i feel like i have seen five movies less then i had before i started watching
@@jacobring7274 Yeah well a young Jeanna Triplehorn will do that...
Jet Skis, not Waverunners...those were Yamaha.
Waterworld lives. The love that's come for it since ain't going away.
The scene where he teaches enola to swim always grabs my heart, its very sweet and the music is perfect.
Always been a fan of post-apoc movies from this era.
At least it wasn't loaded with CGI...
Joe Dirt
Exactly. And that makes it gold. All "big budget" movies now days are filmed in warehouses on green screens and look like the Jews stole all the money and just claim it costs $100 million to make.
Le CgI bAd
@@Pube83 oh nice to antisemitism out of the blue
"Jews" etc etc , please don't sound like an idiot.
movies today are actually made with a lot of practical effects still, it's a myth that people like to complain that everything is CGI.
@@kbanghart lol no it's not
When I finally got to see it, "Water World" proved very entertaining, and frankly my jaw was on the floor at all the stunts in that movie! It's a wonder nobody was killed. SECRET: It's a Spaghetti Western writ large, with KC as "The Man with No Name."
Trinity would be proud
Potentially one of my favorite films. His empathy then suddenly lack of makes sense if you’ve been at sea and living in a post apocalyptic world.
"PAAAAPER!!!! HAVE YOU EVER SEEN PAAAAPER!!! LOOK AT IT, SMELL IT... IVE BEEN SAVING IT FOR A SPECIAL TRADE"
"half n hour half n hour half n hour halfa half n hour"
😂
@@StneCldKilla best character lol
@@franktrejo2558 ikr!
2 pages in Here man I could get half a dozen girls
Half an hour, we trading or not
Ok(sad response)
@@StneCldKilla Oh god, I still say this every single time I use "Half an Hour." In any sort of conversation. I was an early teenager when I first saw this movie and that was what stuck with me for some weird reason.
"We'll be there in half an hour...( under my breath) ...Half n hour, half n hour half n hour."
Every single time! It annoys the crap out of my man.
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Good old Joss Whedon, always ready to blame someone else for his failures. According to him, he's never made a bad movie or wrote a lousy script in his life.
Alien 3 was crap.
This was a good movie. I watched it a few times and would watch it again.
Who doesn't love this movie...exciting from beginning to end!
I was ten when it came out and my family was living on a 70' sailboat so I loved it. And still do.
Are you people actually fucking serious? Or is this just some kind of massively coordinated trolling attempt?
@@the-NightStar we're serious, you just listen to whatever the corporate media tells you to think, you want to be in line with the majority because youre a small person and you believe the TV when it tells you "this is what most people think." or youre just antiwhite so of course you hated it
@@sewme7861 lmao bruh mayocide when
I'm very glad to learn Water World turned a profit in the end. The plot and acting were well engaging and I enjoyed it immensely.
It's encouraging to hear that.
Hurray for Waterworld!
Loved this movie and still occasionally watch it
Watch it again at lunch ;-)
I fell in love with this movie when I was a kid. It was the first time I had heard of climate change in such a drastic way. The first post apocalyptic movie I ever saw. And I thought that the story was super good even if later on I would see the contrivances for what they were.
I love seeing what went on with this movie, I've always liked it and over the years I've heard how it didn't go down exactly how we all had heard...
I've always enjoyed Waterworld. It had such a unique style of cinematography and such an interesting premise. I never knew about the Everest shot. That would have been one of the most interesting shots in the movie had it been in the original.
I saw this movie every afternoon after school. I was in 10th grade back in 1995 , I really loved it!
One of the most underrated films ever made
Crazy to think that little girl in this (WW) is Deb from Napoleon Dynamite.
BoilerBloodline dude that is wild
No way!!
She also played Alice in TV miniseries version of "Alice in Wonderland". I met her at the premier.
Chris H That is really cool. No way in hades I could do that job (actor/actress). You have to have the patience of a saint.
Wow... didn't even see a resemblance until I read that. Crazy.
I loved this damn movie 🍿 I was always hyped when it was on tv ! Back in the ole days lol
Yup. Usually on tbs or tnt.
I freaking loved Waterworld... But, I like a lot of famously bad movies... I much prefer Judge Dredd over Dredd... I love Super Mario Brothers, and Demolition Man :D The 90s had some fun, dumb movies...
Though, watching Demolition Man the other day, I realized it's not nearly as dumb as it's pretending to be... No joke, it's a film adaptation of "Brave New World". It's not even subtle about it... At one point, Wesley Snipes flat out says, "It's a Brave New World" Sandrah Bullock's character is named Huxley, after the author Alduous Huxley, and Stalone's character is frequently referred to as a "savage", referencing one of the protagonists of Brave New World. I don't know who managed to smuggle such a brilliant literary classic into the blockbuster action movie market... but bravo, bravo!
Yeah I loved all those movies as well, they have their charm lol. But I do feel like Dredd did get it right over judge dredd, the accuracy was near perfect to the source material and it made a lot of fans happy in that regard. But the Sylvester Stallone version was fun, I still think about how the hell the sea shells would work lmao
Ye, can't forget Batman vs Superman. That was a master piece of epic proportions! :D
I actually mean that, I burst out laughing repeatedly watching that movie.
It... just.. has so much movie magic going on, entangled scripts fighting for dominance, an overacting villain, a completely nonsense climax, and tons of money burning behind the scenes. I love it xD
I LOVE this movie. I'm glad someone shed some light on it's behind the scenes difficulty.
Fun fact: That's Jack Black flying the airplane. 😜
No it's black jack
@@sassythesasquatch1571 in the back!
ugh... I find him to be as mediocre as Will Ferrall...
Mark the time, ass.
Holy shit, it was.
This movie is pure B Movie fun.
I don't get it... I loved this movie.. Also the other flop cutthroat island
Oh, man. CutThroat Island was terrible lol. Though I still owned it on VHS for years. The music score was great, but Gina Davis dropped the ball playing Morgan. Waterworld however, I did like very much. Not too big a fan of Dennis Hopper though
@@jamesobrian1643 terriblygood 😉
Cutthroat Island was a hidden gem as well. Deep, rich stories and real sets. Epic films that special effect-laden movies will never replace.
@Viktor Blomstergren waterworld only made 40 million after all the costs and outlays so I was referring to the profit margin I guess not the attendance. Cutthroat island cost over 100 mill to make and only grossed 10 mill in the states. Obviously I'm just using a little rhetoric by quoting the word flop, but it was hardly a sucess regarding ticket sales... Sorry to offend you 😉
@@believein1 yes I can still watch it today and enjoy it... It was epic for myself growing up and watching this. Full of action and traces of quirkyness and moments of comedy
I like Waterworld. I also really like The Postman. I like the post apocalyptic film genre in general.