DIY High Pressure Misting System 1000 PSI CAT Pump Commercial Mushroom Farm Humidification
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- Piping and Wiring for a DIY 1000 PSI misting humidification system using a .13 GPM CAT misting pump. All the parts can be found in the kit i built below.
kit.co/MyersMu...
I was just catching up on the last video wondering how things are going. Glad to see a new video today.
This is one of the better videos I've seen. Thanks, I am looking forward to building this with a few modifications.
What modifications
And I thought the drum sterilizer build was complex. Would have never guessed how much non-mushroom related skills were involved in mushroom cultivation.
so awesome i was just looking into high pressure misting,,,it looked like to me the way to go instead of foggers thanks so much for the video.
Your videos are always awesome, keep up the great work !
This is exactly what I needed to see. How load is your pump? What sort of cost was it?
Thanks, _Mister!_
You might wanna check out aerosci. They make nozzles and systems that run on compressed air and create 10-20 micron fog. You also might want to check out some of the lower pressure pumps like procon, fluid o tech, or nuert, and using them with an accumulator tank. That would prevent any short cycling and also allow you to use more reliable, less expensive, lower pressure (290psi max) pumps and better nozzles like tefen or senninger. But honestly, I think you would scrap this for th aerosci nozzles if you saw them, or the quad or octo fogger. You won’t get a finer mist without going ultrasonic. Aerosci is pretty much the smallest droplet producing nozzle.
Wouldn't a check valve ( one way ) stop the water flow when the pressure is off. Seems like a lot a gear to move water
Hey, I don't know much about wiring, and am building this setup for patio misting. Can you update or post a wiring diagram?? Can you also let me know, some people recommend a check valve to prevent back pressure when you shut the pump off, is that not necessary with the solenoid valve?
Just curious, I run car washes for a living. Why don't you run the bypass from the unloader/ regulator back into the intake water before the shutoff solenoid. This way you aren't just getting constant water running or trickling out the bypass..... Instead that water is routed back to the intake of the pump. This is how all my pumps are connected.
To cool the pump head more. Its not much water loss but yes you can run it like that.
Thanks for sharing.
Eric, thank you so much for putting this video out!!! Are you controlling the pump with a humidistat, like an inkbird or are you on a timer? Is this 120v or 220? You are cruising right along! Not sure if you left yet, but stay safe......thanks for everything!
One more thing, why did you chose the 1/2 hp over the 1/4hp, when the 1/4 has same PSI and gpm?
I went with the bigger motor with hopes it wont be loaded down as much. For a controller im using a short cycle timer
So helpful, thanks
So one could theoretically use this system as a patio mister?
100% Absolutely yes. Just get a bigger GPH pump like a .5-1 gph so you can run a good 10-20 nozzles
these pumps are the same exact pumps used on patio kits. just without the fancy branding and packaging
Very helpful guide! Any updates on how this has been working for you?
Great video, for 8 misting heads, would the .13 GPM CAT misting pump be suitable?
What for regulating valve is that? its not mentioned in your list..
Thanks great job!
grtzz from Belgium ;)
What is the part number for the "Surge tube". My pump vibrates the hose so bad. I need something to suppress it.
Hey Eric, I am getting quite frustrated with these ultrasonic disc under preforming and looking to upgrade to this misting system. I believe you may have covered this question in your workshop, but do you advise against this system for a 100 sqft fruiting room? If business does well, I do have the ability to add another 100 sqft down the road. Im concerned that the system wont work with only 2 nozzles, or it over saturating the room.
I have preassembled misting cooling system from 28FT to 91FT on amazon, would you like to test it ?
Hi Annie could you post the link please. Thanks
thanks for sharing your method.
Cool vid bud. Question, Can this be modified for use as a mosquito mister?
I'm not sure how well It works with low input pressure.
I would give CAT the manufacturer of the pump a ring and ask how well it works off a gravity fed tank. Otherwise you would want a small booster pump probably to get it up to 40-50 psi
So what pump and where did you get it ?
I want Pump for 100 0. 3 mm nozzles to create fog mist how much PSI pump ihv to buy.
I was just wondering on the hose you used, at 1,000psi it looks like you are using a PU push fitting hose rated at 100-200psi., can this handle the pressure at long periods?
no they have ones rated for 1000 psi
In terms of cost, compared to 1000psi built units, how much would I save about by building it myself?
it's around $600 in parts vs around $1k. Also I dont think anyone makes a .13 GPH model which is all you need for anything smaller than 300-400 sq ft
You commented about adjusting a regulator...is it built into the CAT pump? if I am using another pump, then is the regulator the same as an unloader?
Will this pump be adequate for a 50' x 16' space with up to 6 to 10 misters?
Yes, but you may want the slightly larger .25 or .5 pump head
What gauge wire are you using?
Hi. Great video as always and thanks for making them. That little black line has 1000PSI in it? How doesn't it rupture and the cpvc and particular filter side is all low pressure? If not, how doesn't that explode on you?
that black line is rated for 1000 psi and all the fittins after the pump as well
Thanks, that's amazing that such a small line can hold that much pressure..plastic too. It's a wonderful world lol.
Has anyone an idea how big the fogdroplets are?
with an aeromist .008 nozzle at 1000psi the average droplet size would be 6um
Will this work for 5 minute on off cycle intervals?
yes it will work but if you can make the cycle longer the motor will last longer.
@@MyersMushroomsFarms I'm building a high pressure misting system. What do you recommend to cover 200sq ft with 2 seconds on every 5-10 min ?
@@DavidNovaa like 5-10 min on 10-30 min off
Hi Eric
On your kit page the pressure switch has a pair of comments from the same person:
IT WILL FAIL. I SPENT 3 HOURS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS WRONG.
DO NOT USE THIS SWITCH. IT IS ONLY RATED FOR 1AMP AT 120
How has it been working for you?
It was working just fine for weeks, but you know what its not rated for 10A, I went and updated the Kit listing with a more heavy duty 10A switch. Funny it took 3 hours to troubleshoot when its literally the only switch lol
@@MyersMushroomsFarms Agreed, thanks! I have almost everything put together (lacking only completion of the wiring and connecting the water lines) so will order and swap that out before firing it up for service. Thanks for the plans.
@@keepertrout9927 hope it serves you well! make sure to service the oil as needed.
@@MyersMushroomsFarms Thanks! I'll watch for that need.
@@MyersMushroomsFarms I just wanted to comment. First thanks for the responsiveness. I did buy the new low pressure switch and do plan to install it. However, the other one (1Amp) was already installed so out of curiosity decided to test it as it was so flushed the lines, added the nozzles and powered it up. Works great and is amazingly low noise! Thanks!
What is the cost of the whole unit?
Check the kit i built in the description for cost. It also depends on how many nozzles your running and how many fittings you need
Okay, Myers how much did this setup cost you in total?
So I have my pump all wired up and running but I have a lot of water coming out the bypass line. Does any one know why that may be?
how many psi are you pushing? How many nozzles of what size? and what size gpm pump do you have?
Wow! The quick response time is amazing! I bought the bigger pump as you suggested. The 1CX050R which means it puts out 0.5 GPM rather than 0.13 GPM like the one in the video. I have six misters on a line that is about 48 feet long. I adjusted the pressure to 1000 PSI. When I was adjusting the pressure, I accidentally touched the contact on the pressure switch with my Allen wrench. The bypass line wasn’t leaking much prior to that. However, if I shut off the water, the pump shuts off so I think the pressure switch is OK.
@@nathanclark2780 so a .5 gpm pump needs like 15-20 nozzles. thats why i went with a .13 gph pump
Myers Mushrooms Farms, I am getting it dialed in and will be getting more misters. Thanks so much for your help! Your videos and willingness to help are greatly appreciated! All the best to you and your family!
@@MyersMushroomsFarms I have the .13 gph pump with 4 nozzles and the same thing is happening. Water coming out of the bypass line but no mist.
What do you think of these nozzles compared to a high pressure system as you built here? having a standard compressor already, this would save a lot of money to build out my humidification system. Any thoughts or have you looked into this type of system?
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Their nozzles are $60 a piece with a water flow rate of 0.03gpm not including the cost of the air compressor. I think their average droplet size would be slightly smaller though.
@@aullvrch so they would be a good choice for a 9x11 fruiting room?
@@seanschriver1543 I'm not sure. You will definitely want to consider the noise of an air compressor which is considerably more so than a water pump. But I was just commenting on the massive difference in cost per gpm of the microfog nozzles compared to the direct pressure route.
@@aullvrch right, I hear you there. But I'm not as concerned with the cost as the finest atomization. My lions main has to have a clear plastic sheet draped over them to try and keep larger droplets from settling on them. Even then with my fans running, some of the humidity will be pushed under the sheet and condense on the sheet and drip down or enough of the larger moisture will consiolitate and condense on the LM and then I get brown spots or dead spots. Just trying to find the best of both worlds so I can run them with my other mushrooms. I don't know why I seem to be having this problem, I don't see others posting about it. But then again, I started out using a sling type unit from house of hydro and the switched to a 10 head float in a reservoir. But I noticed I have to change my res often as it seams to accumulate spore load from the fan blowing into it and pushing the fog out. I can't seem to win, lol😄
@@seanschriver1543 Interesting problem you have there. I'm actually interested in this misting pump for aeroponic produce, so I have no idea what the problem there could be? When it comes to a small droplet size for a direct pressure pump perhaps you could try using impingement nozzles?
Disapointed in your wiring, pros will never use electrical tape on wire nuts.
Because they are in a rush and im not. There is no reson to not tape them.
Laugh, JG has NPT to PEX
Also, accumulator tank after the pump with the electric relay solenoid after the pump, pump takes from a proper reservoir and therefore never dry runs, makes little to no drip as the solenoid after an accumulator at the highest PSI you need/want happens after at the regulator/solenoid setup. With pex/flexible lines you shouldn't get a water hammer though I did like your solution, also why it's dribbling after, though: Straight cut off at high pressure with a proper regulator made for such functions and shouldn't have a water hammer nor drip.
Lastly, I highly, HIGHLY doubt looking at the mist generated that you're getting 1000psi and rather were sold on BS labeling --looked about 120-160 to me. Send the model of your pump and I can confirm.
@@j.ballsdeep420 CAT 1CX013RD2P Direct Drive Plunger Pump With Pulse Hose - 1/2 HP, 0.13 GPM, 1000 PSI
I'm guessing the lack of reply means you were correct on the pressure spec. Lol. Great Video, Sir. Out of curiosity are you U.S. based? If so, I'm guessing these mushrooms are for restaurants and not recreation. Lol. I was interested in your video because I'm needing a mister that is pressured by gas and is capable of misting an oil, not water.
@@JohnSmith-zn3js - I didn't have notifications on but he wasn't incorrect and glad he provided the model number as it does bring to light why there is also dripping being a plunger pump rather than a diaphragm pump. That said, with an accumulator and solenoid it shouldn't drip if you're running an accumulator that could handle that PSI to sustain pressure, it's not a bad setup with proper plumbing to avoid the water hammer.