Composing with Hollywood Orchestrator
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ย. 2024
- Watch Composing with Hollywood Orchestrator, the third in our series of in-depth looks at Hollywood Orchestra Opus Edition, Hollywood Orchestrator, and the new OPUS engine.
In this video, we'll show you how to compose a brand new orchestral track using Hollywood Orchestrator, along with some individual instruments from Hollywood Orchestra Opus Edition. Hollywood Orchestrator includes over 500 customizable presets across Ensemble, Ostinato, and Score categories - or you can create your own presets from scratch!
Find out more about Hollywood Orchestra Opus Edition here: www.soundsonlin...
This is a masterful demo!
Not only does it show off ORCHESTRATOR in all its glory, it also demonstrates that ORCHESTRATOR (and OPUS ensembles) work best when the composer really understands mood, musical drama, orchestration, chord progressions, melody, etc.
Terrific!
Please incorporate Midi drag & drop. What a wonderful product!
We'll be adding MIDI Drag and Drop in an upcoming update.
I just did a project where I was asked to put orchestral chords into a pop song in a trailer. Rather than loading a template and write each individual part, I just used Orchestrator and played the chords! Super quick and easy!
East West Please allow a MIDI DRAG & DROP in all DAWS, I recently bought Native Instruments Action Strings 2 and Pluigin Boutiques Scale 2 these products do what Orchestrator do whilst having the drag and drop option. This will actually elongate the life of Orchestra as routing the patterns to completely different EW instruments will stop Orchestrator from eventually sounding stock. You've got a TREMENDOUS product, don't be left behind. Please allow Midi drag n drop
We're working on MIDI Drag & Drop, will be in the next update.
@@EWQLTutorials YAAAAAAAY!!!!! Literally can't wait! That's Awesome \m/
Thank you EastWest for another amazing product. Pro-Tip - Looking for more bite from your string section? Try a compressor.
nice pro tip, what compressor settings would you recommend?
Excellent Demo of an incredible Tool. Thanks EastWest.
Wow that opening track sounds incredible and is super inspiring. And the orchestrator looks amazingly useful. Time to add some new downloads to my CC arsenal!
Beautiful piece!
Thanks for your time and help with your service it's amazing 👏
Keep adding more to this plugin because I’m loving it
WOW! Congratulations on developing such a powerful and meaningful music tool! I hope to use it to its full potential!
This is was awesome!!! Like watching a behind the scenes of a making a film score!!!
Dear Eastwest - LOVE this product and thank you so much for it. Please update sometime to allow for the inclusion of passing tones in the patterns, and ‘smart voice leading’. :)
Awesome! Wonderfully inspirational!
Amazing. It will be nice to have a small preset preview in orchestrator
Damn, this looks really good! I wonder if I made the right choice with my Spitfire banks when I see how fast you can work with Hollywood Orchestrator.
You guys hit this out of the park - amazing price too!
What a beautiful piece that was, all I need now is a transplant of your hands and I’m ready to go!
About rendering individual midi tracks with East/West Hollywood Orchestrator using Cakewalk/Sonar. Here's my solution. Create a new midi track, then record the original chord track and Opus track to the new midi track. This creates a combined midi track with all notes/instruments. Then, [Process > RunCal > Split Channel to Tracks]. Alternately, Split Note to Tracks will separate all notes from every track in much the same way if you want to isolate individual notes instead.
amazing presentation.
This is an incredible. Bought it months ago but couldn’t download. Got a Eastwest hard drive for Christmas and all I have to say is wow.
The ensemble presets are truly going to be amazing for saving time composing. I don't have this yet, but I can't wait to own it!
⚠️ Video does not actually show how to activate record, as I cannot find the record button.
Can u drag the performance from orchestrator into ur daw so u can have everything on separate tracks for mixing
I'd like to know it, me too!!
I'm starting on this, sorry for my ignorance, I just have a question. If I have sheet music from Sibelius , how can I put this sounds?
So good!!! Thank you for sharing this!
This would be amazing as a separate plugin with channel routing.
The Hollywood Orchestrator Mixer allows channel routing and MIDI export is also available now for those DAWs that support it. For those that don’t, MIDI drag and drop will be available shortly in an upcoming update.
Wait what??? I've got a billion questions? How did you get all of them to play together like that? You're playing 2 or 3 notes but it sounds like a whole entire orchestra is playing different melodies. Is that a setting or voodoo magic?
It’s the magic of Hollywood Orchestrator!
A bit of advice please, any help welcome. Have been looking at The Orchestra Complete 3 and have just come across this. Any advice on which way to go? Thanks to anyone who replies.
FANTASTIC !
How much RAM was required for that demo project? Based on the RAM usage listed in each instance of Opus, it looks like it required 64+ GB of RAM.
How much ram is in the computer that performed this piece? Great music BTW .... EW OPUS ROCKS!
What midi piano works best for this program? I use FL Studio currently, and plan to buy Opus as well as a midi piano used best for it. But I also plan to use it for alternative performance as well.
Will I be able to import a midi score already arranged ?
Thx,
Frank
Just purchased it!
Excellent!
Great video!
Is the Orchestrator good inspiration for finding new instrument combinations too?
I can't wait to build my sound studio!!!
Hi! Thanks for a great intro. I have both orchestrators, the hollywood and the hollywood fantasy. I have two simple questions.
1. In logic, dropping the recorded loop on the DAW generates the individual tracks for each instrument. However, in logic it uses the stock instruments instead. Is this going to be solved?
2. For the scores (rhythmic patterns) is there a way to apply a "hold" like effect as in other arpeggiators so as to get rid of the ugly stops during chord changes? I noticed when you changed chords you kept one finger on while you were changing. I am not a good KB player.
Revolutionary!
Is this supposed to make John William's job easier or to put it out of business (more or less)?
This orchestrator is amazing,
Any tutorials on using this with FL Studio?
tomorrow will buy it
I am going to get this Very Soon
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Great Job !!!
Marvellous
amazing
Hiw many instances of the Orchestrator can you run before your computer pooches out?
I have a Mac Studio Ultra with 64 gigs of ram.
Is there a way to export/convert a recorded "ensemble" Orchestrator passage into individual separate instrument midi tracks? This would be useful to start with a complex Orchestrator section, but then be able to tweak individual lines/voicings for each instrument, play them using different libraries or adjust individual parts or transitions.
Hello Martin, it is possible but it depends on the DAW you are using. If you have any questions on how to do that, you can always contact our support team here for more information - www.soundsonline.com and go to the red 'Live Chat' button.
What about counterpoint and related chord features? Synfire 2 does it,but ew has better phrases.
All good and fun. But, personally, I experience something very strange. It is not in sync with the metronome. Of course the same bpm in my daw with the orchestrator, but simply is not syncing. Any Advice, please?
wicked
Hello. When comes the next update with midi drag function?
Thanks for this tool .
I have a few questions if possible. Does it work on ableton the same way? a 32g ram computer, i7, ssd, is this enough? For each track, is it possible to export each instrument separately in midi format to rework each instrument if necessary? and reuse the same instruments? Thanks
Would be nice to have MIDI drag and drop like in Sonuscore The Orchestra.
We're working on it, will be in the next update!
hello. I would like to know if this presets in the scores menu, showed in this video, are all included with "Orchestra Opus Edition". Thank you very much.
Yes they are!
@@EWQLTutorials thank you very much :)
why i can't find the presets on when i use it on fruityloops ?
Does anyone know a good string for a fast arpeggiation? It seems none of them are suited for a consistent timing.
I wish I could also use orchestrator with Hollywood Orchestra Gold 😔
Augment Orchestrator with HOG tracks like in the video. :)
You can. I am. If you are talking about routing instruments to separate tracks you also can do that up to 16 tracks per single Orchestrator instance.
How does this work on a Native Arm mac mini?
Is there a way to download the logic file?
What's the man's name who is doing this video. I'd like to follow him.
How do you send each instrument patch to the DAW in it's own DAW mixer track and piano roll, without loading up a separate instance of the Opus plugin? I'm using Opus in FL Studio and having to load up separate Opus instance for each instrument patch and articulation patches is eating up my PC's memory. I want to be able to load up everything in one Opus instance and then route each specific one to it's own mixer track and piano roll in FL. The only thing I can figure out is how to route MIDI CC to it's own MIDI plugin channel. This allows me to control the notes and CCs on individual piano rolls, but I'm not able to route the actual audio from the individual instrument patch to it's own mixer track in FL to take advantage of FL's mixer settings and effect plugins that I can load up within the DAW.
Can you tell me how to export MIDI from Opus to my DAW?
Whats that midi keyboard visible on the video? anyone knows?
This is an amazing product with amazing programming work behind and i dont want to sound snobbish but isnt one very restricted to the presets at hand? They sound phenomenal dont get me wrong and i would have lots of fun playing around with it but i dont see the use in actually working for film. Its very, very good for quick sketching but the works i did so far regarding film had to be flexible and quick, changing through multiple emotions within bars leaving no time for a preset. Dunno, what do you guys think?
You can completely alter the structure, instruments, and voicings of any of the presets, or build your own from scratch.
It's a GREAT tool for LEARNING to Orchestrate. You can also MODIFY the presets and save them as your own creations. :)
I did a lot of scoring in the 90s and the first 10 years of the millennium..... this product and some of the libraries that Sonokinetic are putting out would’ve been major time savers for orchestral vamps and underscoring. However yes, they would be tough to utilize within a main theme but then again I would love to try.
Which midi keyboard do you use?
Seems like this would be pretty nice for full ensemble sustains and shorts, with automatic 'proper' orchestration. I can imagine the 'score' presets will get old really fast, though.
It's a GREAT tool for LEARNING to Orchestrate. You can also MODIFY the presets and save them as your own creations. :)
It greatly depends on how you use them. In this sense, the Presets can essentially be seen as building blocks for generating inspiration / ideas, and with the Arranger Mode / MIDI editor, it can allow users to customize their own MIDI passages for all of the parts in one go. Using this to modify the presets allows for a great range of creativity in your compositions. There's a tutorial video timestamped for Arranger Mode / MIDI editor here if you'd like any more information on that - th-cam.com/video/SzlQ65mzKkI/w-d-xo.html
@@EWQLTutorials Thank you. For the record, I think the Opus orchestrator is a great piece of technology with lots of flexibility and options for creative exploration. My point was only concerning the orchestrator presets of particular scores. More specifically, IF many people start to use them, they would get recognizable and boring very quickly. I think most people realise this so I don't see a need to worry about such a scenario. I'm sure the score presets are still great for learning purposes.
Great, greater, greatest, but I‘m not good enough to reach such results!
Holy Dog Blizzle Batman! :)
Thank you for showing this. Are you using the sustain pedal while you are recording?
The sustain pedal doesn't have any effect in Orchestrator which is a bit of a downer - my hands don't move as fast as the guy in the demo!
Looks like MOD WHEEL (left hand) at times.
Thanks for a great product, and a nice informative video. Id like to copy your demo to get my grips on Opus, but I cant find the Apocalypse preset? Best jacob
In Hollywood Orchestrator, the Apocalypse presets are in Preset Browser>Ensembles>Full Ensemble Movie.
What are you doing with your left hand? Is that the MIDI controller #11 that you are controlling? Thanks.
I think CC11 or CC1
Does Hollywood Orchestrator work exclusively with Hollywood Orchestra Opus Edition or does it also work with Quantum Leap Orchestra Gold for example?
By Quantum Leap Orchestra, do you mean EastWest/Quantum Leap Symphonic Orchestra? Hollywood Orchestrator currently only works with Hollywood Orchestra Opus Edition.
what system are you using
EW vst quality is million years ahead of the rest. It's not even close
I just purchased this... Which midi controller are they using in this video?
They are using Native Instruments Komplete Kontrol S61 in the demo - and the newer version Native Instruments Komplete Kontrol S61 MK2 when they show the person playing on it at the end.
How do you get to where you are at 3 min 4 sec?
I can't find the buttons displayed in the video (Ensembles, Ostinatos, Scores).
Thanks in advance!
See where it says “Empty” - click there.
@@tjp1451 I missed this somehow, thanks very much I'll try it later today..'thanks again!
Is it possible use ewqlso with this hollywood orchestrator?
At this time, only the instruments from Hollywood Orchestra Opus Edition are compatible with Hollywood Orchestrator.
Is it Akash Thakkar Talking? :)
It sounds great but how does one produce a score from this or mix out stems?
There is a tutorial on using the MIDI Editor / Arranger Mode in the Orchestrator here, in order to allow the user more creative control over the components of the instruments in the preset - th-cam.com/video/SzlQ65mzKkI/w-d-xo.html and additionally, in terms of the MIDI Export procedure, there is the possibility of exporting MIDI in your DAW if it allows for a Midi track creation that can record the Midi Input from a plug-in's output (Opus included). If you have questions on how to do that, there are tutorials available that you can contact East West's support team for here - www.soundsonline.com and click the red 'Live Chat' button. Hopefully this helps! :)
@@EWQLTutorials Awesome thanks for that.
Would running a few orchestrators like this not absolutely EAT ram?
I tried this with i7 8700k CPU and 32GB of DDR4 RAM.. Unless i lower the quality i'm gonna need a better system.. Not sure if my audio interface has anything to do with the stuttering too..
Not really. You have the ability to have 3 levels of "intensity" so to speak. You can also bounce the MIDI to Audio to free up RAM.
Its an amazing product but its basically composing for you while you hold down a chord. This allows people with minimal knowledge about composing and orchestration to call themselves composers. Still trying to decide if this is a positive or negative thing lol
what controller is this?
NI S61 I think. Older version with touch strips.
It is an older version of the Native Instruments S61
Looks like a Native Instruments S61. I could be wrong tho.
how did you get the "Elves World" in your orchestrator? i dont have it by default? :/
It should be in your Scores category in the Hollywood Orchestrator Preset Browser.
AI been there, they just decide to show us now!
I'm going to lose my job