@@jaxsomon3333 They already covered Breloom and Meganium in their own videos as well though, but those two got ranked. Torterra should be no different. Also yes MegaFidough, I am the same guy who needled you on discord about it, heya.
@@MegaFidough so above breloom, but below meganium, yea thats fair. i havent played redux since i cant find a good emulator, but i hear its pretty strong
One thing I noticed on my sceptile playthrough is that I much prefer running regular sceptile with focus sash and setting up swords dance over the mega form. I feel that’s something that’s kinda missing in these vids, the opportunity cost of the regular form vs the mega
I love turtwig but torterra's typing is garbage. Torterra is a tank with high defense and attack but doesn't really resist anything. Destroyed by flying types, destroyed by anything with an ice move. Too slow to avoid dealing with weaknesses. A slow defense tank whose weaknesses are almost all special types just does not function
"grass type is the worst starter" elite redux adding chloroplast, big leaves, fluttering leaf, berry smash, creeping thorns, fertile fangs, absorbant, and fungal infection to make grass types the most broken shit ever:
Another great video. My favorite mon in Emerald Elite Redux is Ninjask. Love the buffs it received, and spamming sub/protect to get massive speed and attack has cheesed almost the whole game for me
You underrate grass defensively, yes it resists 4 and is weak to 5, but electric, water and ground rare super hard to resist and very valuable to have in one mon, while poison, bug and (STAB) ice are not that common or hard to counter with other types. It's really not bad defensively.
I know you made a video on it already, but I'm suprised you didn't bring up Mega Torterra. Atlas giving stab fissure and stone edge really high accuracy and powers up grav apple. Solid rock helps in reducing the power of super effective moves. Grassy surge gives Mega Torterra some self recovery and gives it priority on grassy glide.
On the Harvest ability, wouldn't it be good to have the pokemon hold a weakness reduction berry, like Sceptile holding the ice berry? It lets you repeatedly cover major weaknesses in the grass type, imo. Not saying there aren't better items, but on pokemon that can set up, status, heal, and attack with movepool alone, it makes sense to me.
The really powerful thing about abomasnow is the fact that he has North wind before mega evolving, so you can set up aurora veil THEN hail for free, I made a team around him and so far it's the team with the least amount of losses that I have used
Gen 2's Megas are kinda busted ngl You basically have "Nice HP you got over there, let's drain it" "Haha, eruption go boom kaboom" "I'mma firin mah lazar"
The grass megas in practice: Abomasnow: you were right in calling it the worst, in that it doesn’t really fit on any team. Hail is already struggling in general, mono grass doesn’t really fit it since it likes to be sun focused, and ice doesn’t want it for one simple reason: just use mega lapras y. Venusaur: The best word to describe the Mon is forgettable. Does it mean it’s bad: absolutely not, it still has great utility, especially on bulky styles of grass and poison like it always does. Just that it gets overlooked form more powerful and interesting options, such as mega sceptile on a newly sun lead grass, or poison ho led by mega beedrill Mega sceptile: the thing is actually extremely powerful as a sun Mon, mainly because it actually prefers going mixed, with weather ball to crush most steels and boosting with growth instead. The problem more so on sun is the fact that it has to try VERY hard to justify itself over zard y, which is just as if not even more so scary, and has aspects such as setting up sun itself in addition to being an abuser Torterra: In theory, atlas boosting grav apple and removing flying and a switch in to your stabs is powerful, alongside grassy glide. In practice, it isn’t that strong. Yes you remove the flying issue to some extent, but you still have bug and grass that resist both stabs. Not to mention it doesn’t really hit that hard, and I’m pretty sure atlas works also like stall: it affects the prio bracket, so glide isn’t solving the issue. Meganium: Similar to the turtle, its kit seems amazing in theory, and it somewhat works in practice. However it isn’t as strong as it seems due to two things. Firstly it isn’t that strong without grabbing boosts, which makes playing around it much easier. Secondly and most prevalent, it gets walled VERY easily. Grass and fairy have quite a few types that alone resist both stabs: fire, poison and steel, and makes it easier to deal with than it should. In addition, it also leads it to suffer from 4mss: after the obvious dual stabs, it has to pick between calm mind to actually pose a threat, synthesis for overall better healing, and earth power to threaten all of the things that wall it’s stabs, all are important and all are costly to give up. Breloom: The actual best mega of the group. The thing hits VERY hard with those technichian prio bullet seeds even on 2-3 hits, to the point where larger amounts can chunk resist. As a result it’s difficult to switch into the thing alongside spore and fungi infection chunking its switch ins even more. And to think according to the alpha dex it’s getting buffed…..
Yo is all the redux pokemon able to be able to buy the pseudo redux pokemon in the shop? Like the pseudos in the beta? And what gym will I have to clear till I have acces to them if so.. P.S:meowscarda is busted..
I think Mega Breloom and Sceptile are better (relatively speaking) than you're giving them credit for. Mega Meganium is great, don't get me wrong, but base Meganium is amazing. Big Leaves, Triage, Calm Mind, and the ability to hold Berries make it extremely powerful without taking up your Mega slot. Meanwhile, the upgrades Sceptile and Breloom get are much more substantial. Perfectionist Technician Bullet Seed does nasty things, as does Technician Bullet Punch, and Fungal Infection really helps with its otherwise sub-par suvivability (while Absorbant on MMeganium doesn't do nearly as much, given it's already using Giga Drain/Draining Kiss). Basically, I think you get more out of running a different Mega from Meganium, even if it's really good.
bruh i made a sun team yesterday and I was indecise for what grass type i should use 💀 if only this video was released one day earlier After watching the video, i must say that the best grass-type mega evolution to use on sun teams, is no grass-type mega evolution. Venusaur is meh, and Sceptile just doesn't need sun and I'd rather not copy my rival's starter; takes some of the fun out of the game
Why hasnt darky made a mega fidough, considering your clear dedication to this romhack? I think it would be really, really cool. Do you guys just need someone to commission it?
Mfw my guy Sceptile isn't in the top 3 mega grass starters, RIP my guy Also RIP my guy, gonna have to redo some videos due to some changes of 2.0 (Speaking off, I'm surprised they didn't give Koraidon Dragon Dance)
0:06 Only at the johto and kalos region The worst starters, i picked chespin in my first playthrough in elite redux just to see if it was something better Still bad against flyings, but not useless, i called him Dumbie
"it will survive that first hit to set up the sun" What are you thinking wasting a turn setting up sun? If you are running a chlorophyll pokemon, you shouod have a drought Pokemon on your team.
Regular sceptile is way better than the mega . Potean skill link scale shot and bulket seed has carried my run with only starters . Sceptile is the best starter as well as cinderace typhlosion and greninja in theres games.
Fidough can you rate my randomizer ace palkia Item leftovers Abilitys are water bubble huge power pure power and magma armor (yes this is real) and has the moves dragon rush double iron bash milk drink and protect
@@MegaFidough I've been playing on 1.6. I can believe mega Meganium is cracked, though. I had to bench the regular one because it was making things too easy, lol
Just kinda sucked that in the base game, 90% of final EVO grass types had chlorophyll. Kinda suffers the fate of paradox forms but without any item to make it easier than running a sun set up.
forgot mega torterra exists....
You already covered it in the sinnoh mega starters video, so it doesn't count.
@@jaxsomon3333 They already covered Breloom and Meganium in their own videos as well though, but those two got ranked. Torterra should be no different.
Also yes MegaFidough, I am the same guy who needled you on discord about it, heya.
well, where would u put it on the list
Id put it at 2 tbh. its grassy glide is disgusting
@@MegaFidough so above breloom, but below meganium, yea thats fair. i havent played redux since i cant find a good emulator, but i hear its pretty strong
One thing I noticed on my sceptile playthrough is that I much prefer running regular sceptile with focus sash and setting up swords dance over the mega form. I feel that’s something that’s kinda missing in these vids, the opportunity cost of the regular form vs the mega
True
Chespin and Turtwig slander is crazy. They’re so cool.
🧢
THANK YOU
I love turtwig but torterra's typing is garbage. Torterra is a tank with high defense and attack but doesn't really resist anything. Destroyed by flying types, destroyed by anything with an ice move. Too slow to avoid dealing with weaknesses. A slow defense tank whose weaknesses are almost all special types just does not function
I like turtwig but using it was awful
@@absolutelyunepic3072shell smash torterra:
Big Leaves is SUCH a stupid ability. Half my team has it and I love it. "Dude what if we made five abilities into one ability?"
That ability plus Air Blower makes Tropius so fast it lags the game when it switches in when sunny
"grass type is the worst starter"
elite redux adding chloroplast, big leaves, fluttering leaf, berry smash, creeping thorns, fertile fangs, absorbant, and fungal infection to make grass types the most broken shit ever:
Before the update go touch somme grass , you really need it and when are we getting mega tsareena
m8 if you're wonder when it will come out I think ye need to touch grass too (just like me fr)
@@mr.jitterspam9552 I'm touching grass right now
Another great video. My favorite mon in Emerald Elite Redux is Ninjask. Love the buffs it received, and spamming sub/protect to get massive speed and attack has cheesed almost the whole game for me
Love your content! One of my first pokemon in my 2.0 play through was a full odds shiny fidough, and its nickname references you!
I'm honored ♥
You underrate grass defensively, yes it resists 4 and is weak to 5, but electric, water and ground rare super hard to resist and very valuable to have in one mon, while poison, bug and (STAB) ice are not that common or hard to counter with other types. It's really not bad defensively.
Make your own video then
Let's settle for average
Mega Meganium is absurdly broken, can sweep essentially any team with the right invesment
252hp, 252spatk, 4def is my choice.
Obamnasnow was done so dirty by it's typing
Obamasnow?
@yamatong2373 hahaha
Where's my guy Mega Torterra?? I don't think he's number 1, but he's easily number 3 on this list, and a strong option in my opinion.
I think he talked about it in a different video. I could've sworn I've seen him talk about it.
I forgot it... I scrolled past it when writing the megas down for this video
@@MegaFidough MegaFidough was actually a human this whole time?!
/j
@@MegaFidoughDoes that mean we can expect a video on it all to itself?
@@LimitBlade617 No the sinnoh starters have a video
Now with 2.0 beta out it opens up a new chapter for these video's. Damn gpod update so far
cant wait for fire
Bro is dialga origin coming in the game i see it in the dex with whooping 780 bst?in 2.0 full release?
I know you made a video on it already, but I'm suprised you didn't bring up Mega Torterra. Atlas giving stab fissure and stone edge really high accuracy and powers up grav apple. Solid rock helps in reducing the power of super effective moves. Grassy surge gives Mega Torterra some self recovery and gives it priority on grassy glide.
I forgot it existed... I scrolled right over when I was writing the grass megas down
Fidough, I will not tolerate this Bulbasaur Slander
Love your Videos bro, keep it up
But I'm watching you
lmaooo bulba is 3rd best in kanto im sorry 😂
Mega breloom goes hard
On the Harvest ability, wouldn't it be good to have the pokemon hold a weakness reduction berry, like Sceptile holding the ice berry? It lets you repeatedly cover major weaknesses in the grass type, imo.
Not saying there aren't better items, but on pokemon that can set up, status, heal, and attack with movepool alone, it makes sense to me.
I end up picking the grass starter most of the time because they are my favorites
the abilities in this game are extremely entertaining lol
The really powerful thing about abomasnow is the fact that he has North wind before mega evolving, so you can set up aurora veil THEN hail for free, I made a team around him and so far it's the team with the least amount of losses that I have used
wow... idk why I thought it wouldn't work without hail up. That does make it alot better
@@MegaFidough Trust me he's really really strong, I tanked some flare blitzes
The grass slander in the first 20 seconds is unwarranted.
grass is well... buns
Gen 2's Megas are kinda busted ngl
You basically have
"Nice HP you got over there, let's drain it"
"Haha, eruption go boom kaboom"
"I'mma firin mah lazar"
And also make that chloroplast trigger ability so my liligant don't get sick
how can i shinyu hunt in 1.6? The option of getting a easier shiny is not there...
Unfortunate timing w/ mega Redux Arcanine coming out
The grass megas in practice:
Abomasnow: you were right in calling it the worst, in that it doesn’t really fit on any team. Hail is already struggling in general, mono grass doesn’t really fit it since it likes to be sun focused, and ice doesn’t want it for one simple reason: just use mega lapras y.
Venusaur: The best word to describe the Mon is forgettable. Does it mean it’s bad: absolutely not, it still has great utility, especially on bulky styles of grass and poison like it always does. Just that it gets overlooked form more powerful and interesting options, such as mega sceptile on a newly sun lead grass, or poison ho led by mega beedrill
Mega sceptile: the thing is actually extremely powerful as a sun Mon, mainly because it actually prefers going mixed, with weather ball to crush most steels and boosting with growth instead. The problem more so on sun is the fact that it has to try VERY hard to justify itself over zard y, which is just as if not even more so scary, and has aspects such as setting up sun itself in addition to being an abuser
Torterra: In theory, atlas boosting grav apple and removing flying and a switch in to your stabs is powerful, alongside grassy glide. In practice, it isn’t that strong. Yes you remove the flying issue to some extent, but you still have bug and grass that resist both stabs. Not to mention it doesn’t really hit that hard, and I’m pretty sure atlas works also like stall: it affects the prio bracket, so glide isn’t solving the issue.
Meganium: Similar to the turtle, its kit seems amazing in theory, and it somewhat works in practice. However it isn’t as strong as it seems due to two things. Firstly it isn’t that strong without grabbing boosts, which makes playing around it much easier. Secondly and most prevalent, it gets walled VERY easily. Grass and fairy have quite a few types that alone resist both stabs: fire, poison and steel, and makes it easier to deal with than it should. In addition, it also leads it to suffer from 4mss: after the obvious dual stabs, it has to pick between calm mind to actually pose a threat, synthesis for overall better healing, and earth power to threaten all of the things that wall it’s stabs, all are important and all are costly to give up.
Breloom: The actual best mega of the group. The thing hits VERY hard with those technichian prio bullet seeds even on 2-3 hits, to the point where larger amounts can chunk resist. As a result it’s difficult to switch into the thing alongside spore and fungi infection chunking its switch ins even more. And to think according to the alpha dex it’s getting buffed…..
Grassy glide works for mega torterra man. You get priority grassy terrain grassy glide that absolutely hits super hard.
@@dmitrisemenoff6455 even then grassy glide only goes so far
Yo is all the redux pokemon able to be able to buy the pseudo redux pokemon in the shop? Like the pseudos in the beta? And what gym will I have to clear till I have acces to them if so..
P.S:meowscarda is busted..
Yes they are all purchasable. Pseudos are after 6th gym I believe.
And trust me I know how busted it is lmao
I think Mega Breloom and Sceptile are better (relatively speaking) than you're giving them credit for. Mega Meganium is great, don't get me wrong, but base Meganium is amazing. Big Leaves, Triage, Calm Mind, and the ability to hold Berries make it extremely powerful without taking up your Mega slot. Meanwhile, the upgrades Sceptile and Breloom get are much more substantial. Perfectionist Technician Bullet Seed does nasty things, as does Technician Bullet Punch, and Fungal Infection really helps with its otherwise sub-par suvivability (while Absorbant on MMeganium doesn't do nearly as much, given it's already using Giga Drain/Draining Kiss). Basically, I think you get more out of running a different Mega from Meganium, even if it's really good.
And also MegaFidough when i use redux alakazam thw box where u use thw move glitches..
Yea that happens with thievul too. not sure why
When playtrough goat
very soon
I’m playing the beta for 2.0 anyone know where to find the move relearned cause they took the automatic move relearn feature out.
go to the moves page in summary and press R
Meganium deserves the W
They overcooked meganium in this game
0:01-0:18
Man speaks the truth.
Mega gogoat when?
bruh i made a sun team yesterday and I was indecise for what grass type i should use 💀
if only this video was released one day earlier
After watching the video, i must say that the best grass-type mega evolution to use on sun teams, is no grass-type mega evolution. Venusaur is meh, and Sceptile just doesn't need sun and I'd rather not copy my rival's starter; takes some of the fun out of the game
You're looking at things from a singles only mindset, if you play doubles mega abomansnow goes crazy
Thats true. SIngles is what I know lol
Why hasnt darky made a mega fidough, considering your clear dedication to this romhack? I think it would be really, really cool. Do you guys just need someone to commission it?
It might be considered for a future update
@@MegaFidough c'mon @darkyy92 give this man his mega! What abilities would you give it, besides fluffy of course! 😁
Should i switchmega agron for mega lapras or breloom? I really like mega agron its really bulky and fitsin my team well
aagron is better
@@MegaFidough cheers
Mega Torterra: Am I a joke to you?
He forgo
Why didn't you include torterra mega?
bro i missed it 😭
Obomasnow mentioned
Mfw my guy Sceptile isn't in the top 3 mega grass starters, RIP my guy
Also RIP my guy, gonna have to redo some videos due to some changes of 2.0 (Speaking off, I'm surprised they didn't give Koraidon Dragon Dance)
0:06 Only at the johto and kalos region
The worst starters, i picked chespin in my first playthrough in elite redux just to see if it was something better
Still bad against flyings, but not useless, i called him Dumbie
I already used meganium on radical red and it was busted, so i knew it would be even stronger in elite redux
Does solar power do 1/8th of your hp in this?
nope
@@MegaFidough ah so it’s actually useful now cool
In the new version why gym leader cannot give a shiny Pokemon ??
they should be able to
"it will survive that first hit to set up the sun"
What are you thinking wasting a turn setting up sun? If you are running a chlorophyll pokemon, you shouod have a drought Pokemon on your team.
stand alone power. if needs assistance then its already mid
Regular sceptile is way better than the mega . Potean skill link scale shot and bulket seed has carried my run with only starters . Sceptile is the best starter as well as cinderace typhlosion and greninja in theres games.
harvest on a mega lmfaoo
Hey can you make a tutorial on how to download elite redux 2.0 beta on mobile?
not allowed
@@MegaFidough not allowed?😭
@@Justanormalhuman69 YT wont allow it
@@MegaFidough damn that's sad ig I gotta wait until it officially drops💀
Fidough can you rate my randomizer ace palkia
Item leftovers
Abilitys are water bubble huge power pure power and magma armor (yes this is real) and has the moves dragon rush double iron bash milk drink and protect
busted lmao
Is it available for download yet?
the beta is on discord
@@MegaFidough is it for android?
@@The-AvatarAang Not sure. I think so
2.0 is already out ?
beta is out
@@MegaFidough All the Redux forms are in the shop or some of them is in the wild ?
@@gabrielfranca8406 all shop I believe
Yo i thiught beta was coming today.. what happened?
Nevermind
Where is zacian found?
only in v2.0
Venusaur #4??? I play Doubles so that's wild to hear. Rage Powder is sooooo good.
nah. this is for 1.6. movepools and abilities have changed so past megas will be revisited
@@MegaFidough I've been playing on 1.6. I can believe mega Meganium is cracked, though. I had to bench the regular one because it was making things too easy, lol
Just kinda sucked that in the base game, 90% of final EVO grass types had chlorophyll. Kinda suffers the fate of paradox forms but without any item to make it easier than running a sun set up.
Make your own game then and give them new abilities
Good idea!! I'll get right on that!!