Great video! Ryan Poles should have as much criticism as Eberflus. Poles came in and said “we’re going to take the NFC North and not give it back”. He has had 3 offseason with the Bears and they are still in last place in NFC North. They’re not even close to sniffing 1st place anytime soon. Get it together or get out of the way, Poles!
Gotta say that Waldron's ineptitude was a surprise. He looked good on paper and seemed like the right hire at the time. As for next year (can't believe we already at the point where we're talking about next year), the Bears have to go hard after Ben Johnson. If they can't get him, they need to try Lincoln Riley. Somebody that can help Williams and those two are the most likely.
It’s beyond me that Poles’ background is O-Line and the Bears have only a couple players who can pass protect , I’ve always believed the quality of an NFL team starts with QB protection , and of course a QB with a quick release and the composure to go through his progressions . Poles has to be part of the problem and he and Flus would have to go together out the door ! 🐻🏉 John
Always wish you the best, Nic, but after what Wisconsin did for this nation on 11/5 I don't care about football games too much right now. Standard procedure, Thumbs up!
Nick, I’m very glad to hear you criticize harshly because it’s long overdue. An organization should not keep getting the benefit of the doubt when they have a lousy track record. Also, I told you during the draft week they needed an o lineman and not a receiver. Point in that is, that’s just one of the many many correct moves I have given you. So, I think I should get the autographed ball for being by far your best and smartest subscriber 😂
@pjwroblewski no one did, but the expectation was a competitive team, in the playoff picture at least. We've been practicing patience for years now. Patience is gone
Poles has had 3 off-seasons and Bears are no closer to being in 1st place in NFC North than they were when he took over. All NFC North teams have made improvements except the Bears in last 3 seasons. How much longer we need to wait?!
I believe that an organization should search for o-line starters through FA. Spend big for a couple linemen and draft lineman and sit them for a year to adjust to the aggressiveness of the NFL, unless you have a can’t miss prospect in the first round.
It’s interesting how people are NOW talking about Poles being on the hot seat when there have been people saying this for weeks and others (who are now saying he is in the hot seat) dismissing it saying he’s done a great job.
The challenge with tearing down a team and building it from scratch is that it takes years to draft, sign quality free agents and trade for good/great players. Historically Offensive Lines take years to build… ask Detroit and Philadelphia. Detroit took six years and Philly took 4-5 years due to the scarcity of quality OL that become free agents and the scarcity of good IOL in the draft. Poles definitely deserves some criticism because he could and should have clearly placed it as a higher priority. However, in order to clearly evaluate it, fans should look at who is available in free agency and who is available when they selected in the draft. Also, fans need to consider some stuff is hard to predict. Nate Davis was considered a good sign at the time. No one could have predicted the impact on losing his mother would have on his motivation to play football. Also, no one could have predicted that all of the starters would get injured at the same time. I have reviewed all of his drafts and agree with many of his selections. No GM is perfect but overall with the exception of the OL his choices imo were very good. As far as the OL is concerned, he should have taken Raimann, Lucas or Parham instead of Velus Jones Jr. He also should have signed Biadsz, Brewer, or Cushenberry instead of Shelton. He has placed a band aid on the problem thus far. In the future, he needs to provide real solutions and draft quality players and free agents. The other problem Poles has is he enables Eberflus to make very poor hiring decisions. He needs to vet Flus’s decisions because they are negatively impacting Poles credibility.
Yes ! Instead of taking WR Odunze @ # 9 in the 2024 NFL Draft, I was hoping The Chicago Bears would have taken either Center Jackson Powers Johnson or Talise Fuaga as the new Right Guard who could have even played the Right Tackle position ; if needed !!!🤔 Odunze was my 3rd option !!!
no u use this whole dam draft on d line and o line forget that cute shiiiii i know yall chicago people go crazy when yall here wr yall the one thats getting poles fired for dipping in that chicago kool aide wr wr wr wr wr and he fell for it dont draft no more dam wrs but do cut allen and find a lowkey 3rd wr in free agency not a 1 or a 2 a 3 but pole dont know how to do that u cant have 3 number 1s if he would have kept mooney we would be fine mooer ,mooney and he could have drafted rome but not that high so i guess that means he wouldnt be on the team because that wr at 9 was no good and too high
I got a fix for this offense. Now Bear with me now ( no pun intended). Every defense the Bears have played this year is like seeing the 85 Bears coming after our quarterback. So with that being said. Remember how Dan Marino beat us? Yes I remember too. Marino beat us with short quick passes to wide receivers, running backs, tight ends. Bears coaches need to look at that game , and make a plan for Caleb Williams. I say that because our offense line is weak and can not hold off even a 3 man rush let alone 4 or 5 man rush. So any defense the Bears have been facing looks like the 85 Bears coming after our quarterback because we can’t block them . Let’s take a page from the Miami Dolphins vs Chicago Bears 1985 game, and copy their game plan, to stop all these other defenses teeing off on our quarterback! What do you think? Let me know if I am on to something here.
Calm down...his first year was spent blowing up the team, cutting tons of bad players, contracts and dealing with a huge amount of dead cap and having no picks. This is only year 3... the Lions took about 5 years before they were good. Poles is not getting fired this year, and probably not next year...however, Flus will be gone.
Excuse me you Calm down. Poles missed on Davis only gets Free Agent third String Starters. Kramer whom he drafted can't play on O Line. Took a Punter in 4th Round should have taken John Alt. Who is killing it in LA Chargers. Kept Velus Jones whom he took in Third Round too long. He brought in Flus instead of hiring Brian Flores a great Head Coach. Flus brought in 3 different OCs. What are you smoking??
@@user-vo5kv9qi6k I don't smoke...Brian Flores? Another fired defensive coach? Now that's funny. Alt was taken at 5 before the Bears pick at 9. I wish fans would be as passionate about the country as they are about the NFL. So, yeah, calm down.
He has made like 2 to 4 solid moves and then has made like 8-15 crappy moves, I’m thinking they should most definitely replace him and the entire coaching staff
@ I got a fix for this offense. Now Bear with me now ( no pun intended). Every defense the Bears have played this year is like seeing the 85 Bears coming after our quarterback. So with that being said. Remember how Dan Marino beat us? Yes I remember too. Marino beat us with short quick passes to wide receivers, running backs, tight ends. Bears coaches need to look at that game , and make a plan for Caleb Williams. I say that because our offense line is weak and can not hold off even a 3 man rush let alone 4 or 5 man rush. So any defense the Bears have been facing looks like the 85 Bears coming after our quarterback because we can’t block them . Let’s take a page from the Miami Dolphins vs Chicago Bears 1985 game, and copy their game plan, to stop all these other defenses teeing off on our quarterback! What do you think? Let me know if I am on to something here.
Ya sucks because they really had me fooled this year would hate to clean house again but EVERYONE knows you build a team from the trenches out. Not to mention the Waldron hire the other 2 coaches they had to fire. Poles should be on the hot seat. FGB
1. It was John Fox's last year as head coach when Trubisky was drafted. It was Nagy's last year as head coach when Fields was drafted. This will be Eberflush's last year as head coach when Caleb was drafted. Ryan Pace was the GM who drafted Trubisky and Fields. Ted Phillips was the President. Think about how stupid Warren and Poles are by doing the same thing Phillips and Pace did! Jim Harbaugh, Bill Belichick, Ben Johnson, Dan Quinn, Kliff Kingsbury were all available this past offseason. 2. I think we'll all agree that left tackle is not only the most important position on the offensive line, but one of the premiere positions overall. Poles thinks a 5th rd pick from Southern Utah and an injured 3rd rd pick from Yale is the way to address left tackle. You draft your stud left tackle from a SEC or B1G school. You'll occasionally find a stud LT from the BIG 12 or ACC as well, but the Big Sky Conference and the Ivy League? That's a joke. The Lucas Patrick and Nate Davis signings were also a joke. There were so many red flags about both before they signed it was incredible, but Poles still gave them hefty contracts. Ryan Bates is a career utility backup. He's a nice depth piece to have, but you trade a 5th rd pick for him? You could've drafted a young offensive guard who is actually starting caliber and is on a rookie contract for 4 years in the 5th rd. Poles hasn't taken the center position seriously either. We've passed on some young stud centers the past two drafts. Guys who could've started from the jump who have pro-bowl potential. 3. Poles draft misses and free agent signing misses are embarrassing. You draft a 25 yr old WR who can't run routes and isn't known for having good hands in the 3rd rd in Velus Jones Jr. That pick could've been used to draft a guy who is now in his 3rd season as a starting guard or center. 2022 draft busts: Velus Jones, Braxton Jones, Dominique Robinson, Zachary Thomas, Trestan Ebner, Doug Kramer, Ja'Tyre Carter. 2023 draft busts: Zacch Pickens, Tyler Scott, Noah Sewell, Travis Bell, Kendall Williamson. 2024 draft bust: Kiran Amegadjie. Free agent signing busts: Michael Schofield, Khari Blasingame, Tavon Young, Dakota Dozier, Dane Cruikshank, Trevor Siemian, Byron Pringle, Eq St Brown, Dante Pettis, Al Quadin Muhammad, Nicholas Morrow, Lucas Patrick, PJ Walker, Robert Tonyan, Nic, you're welcome for that list lol. Need to also touch on the signing of Tremaine Edmunds. He's a solid LB, however is it worth giving a solid LB a 4yr, $72mil deal? I don't think so. That money could've been used to sign a stud center or guard. There's really not much if any difference between Edmunds and Sanborn. TJ Edwards was signed the same offseason. It's not worth investing that much money in LB. You should be able to draft LBs who offer the same results. Edwards has been a stud though. He's outperformed Edmunds and only on a 3yr, $19.5mil deal. Look at all those draft busts and free agent signing busts! Poles has literally no clue! He needs to go!
Travesty, as I have written many times, Poles has reassembled this team backwards. He started with the roof and ignored the foundation. I give him one more draft then it's put up or move on. Plus pick a topflight head coach next year. If not, I nominate Nic as the next GM.
It was a mistake to trade Fields and draft Williams it set the team back at least 1-2 years. Trading the first overall pick would have improve the roster dramatically and help coaches even if they kept Eberflus. Poles needs to fire Eberflus! The large reason why Poles should be on the hot seat is because he manufactured a whole at a position that wasn't a need. Imagine if the Bears traded the 1st overall pick to the Commanders or Patriots... It would have netted conservatively the 2nd or 3rd overall pick, a second-round pick, a third-round pick and a 1st or 2nd round pick in the 2025 draft. So, the argument was never about the Caleb v Justin... It was Caleb plus the current draft v Justin, MHJ, DE Verse, C Frazier, OG Puni + plus the current draft.
Jay, what lineman that were drafted in his first year that you would have wanted him to draft instead of Gordan and Brisker? Do the same for years 2 and 3. I get you are frustrated but it really isn't that easy. Truly look at the O lineman drafted after the Bears picked in each year and tell me who he should have taken. Poles took best availiable based on his and his scouts analysis and thats what you do when you are basically starting from scratch. I'll wait for your answer or anyone else that would like to chime in. 🐻⬇️ ✌️✝️
I think I have said this quite a bit, but Poles does need to go. His good decisions are outnumbered by his bad decisions. I really doubt they will get rid of him or Eberflus, because that is the McCaskey way. What a mess….again.
I recently asked for bears fans to provide a grade for Ryan Poles. I personally gave him a C- However, the consensus showed that he is more in the C range in the eyes of bears fans. Unfortunately, the more information that is coming out proves to us that we are all wrong. The bears NEED to FIRE Poles and company!!!!! Poles’ only somewhat good decision was the trade with Carolina which it could even be questioned on how everything is turning out. He drafted Caleb and kept the worst coach in bears history when he had the opportunity to bring in Jim Harbaugh, Dan Quinn, Mike Vrabel, or even Ben Johnson. This decision by Poles is destroying the bears from inside out. The players are in charge NOW and that’s NEVER a good sign. Poles’ bad decisions are so numerous that I cannot list them in one post. Therefore, Poles needs to be FIRED ASAP!!!!! PS: Kevin Warren was brought to Chicago to direct the stadium project and that’s it. He has no knowledge of player personnel or coaches, etc… George McCaskey needs to do this the right way and hire first a President of Operations with HUGE knowledge of football and then that person decides who to hire as GM. Then, the GM hires the HC. Then, the HC hires his coordinators and position coaches. It’s that simple in theory and hard in execution. I UNDERSTAND!!!!! George McCaskey, you are on the clock now!!!!! I just gave you the formula for success so it is time to execute!!!!! Bear Down 🏉🐻
I am a big poles fan to but I definitely think he's making too many mistakes if we are ever going to be a super bowl contender we got to strengthen our offensive line and defensive line
Poles is NOT on the hot seat, that is rediculous. He is going to get 2 more years, minimum. The roster was garbage when he took over and it takes more than 3 years to fix. Some yall so impatient. He is going to spend the next 2 years fixing the trenches. I know it is not how it is normally done but it is just the way things worked out based on the lack of draft capital early on. ALL GMs miss on picks and free agents and you have to take the good with the bad. The Bears need stability for once, so tired of fans wanting to fire everyone as soon as times get a little tuff. I trust Poles and Flus to get it right in the next few years and then it will be playoffs EVERY year. I truly believe that. 🐻⬇️ ✌️✝️
I know hindsight is 20/20, Nick, BUT, Ryan Poles should be fired after this year because he let a golden opportunity slip right through his fingers. I really thought he was smart enough not to Draft Caleb and instead trade the 1st overall. With that draft capital he could’ve built an ELITE o-line. He could’ve then signed Derrick Henry instead of little Swift and kept JF. We would’ve ran the ball down everyone’s throats and keep our defense off the field and well rested. Instead he listened to the hype and threw away years of draft capital and with that, could’ve drafted a qb somewhere down the road if JF didn’t thrive behind a great o-line. That’s why Poles should be seeing his last year as DaBears GM.
@@toofast75 and you completely missed the point! The elite o-line is the point. I said if JF didn’t thrive behind that great o-line, Poles would’ve had enough draft capital to draft a qb next year but at least the o-line would’ve been badass! You pukester!
I don't see how you see that and he's done. Nothing but f*** this team up. We could have gone a whole different direction and got more draft picks which our team was depleted of talent and he hadn't got to go have his Caleb and have his guy. Well, his guy aint doing it. Is lying aint doing it? His defense align aint doing it. There's players he signed that are gone I mean ridiculous. He needs to go.
He failed everywhere else on the oline so if he got a tackle or center and not Rome that line play would still be a dumpster fire ,poles as a lineman makes bad oline scouting and worse bad hiring coaches and more for not firing them b4 it's a year too late
Poles is letting me down. But also the Bears Organization needs to stop with the we don't fire coaches mid season. So I can't put everything on him. We look like a high school team and it's embarrassing
Yes we can put it on Poles. He should have fired Eberflus last offseason. We look like a high school team because of the mistakes Poles made since taking over.
Get Poles out of here he flunk every thing by not trading the pick and building this team up he was so stuck on on getting his guys he set us back 3 too 4 years
why they are not utilizing Colin Johnson who is 6'6" Let this guy play what is wrong with Eberflus for this decision l want Ryan Poles to let Colin Johnson Caleb Williams need all his weapons" and why he's not using the Red challenge flags for the team #ClawsOut🐻🐻❄️⬇️
Orrrrrr poles could’ve bought an OL instead of Keenan and kept Rome. Then package our 3rd and fourth and a ‘25 second to get into the second rd to get a center! But noooooooo! We needed a broken LT and a punter
Poles should be fired because he has a conflict of interest by he and Eberflus having Trace Armstrong as their agent and this is why Eberflus has a 5 year contract and he may not get fired this off season
Yeah! Nepotism could be a powerfully persuasive reason this regime is still intact. Can you actually f--king believe that Everlose wanted to keep Waldron in as OC? Just move him upstairs! WTF?
Poles should be fired because he drafted the worst quarterback in this draft class in Caleb Williams. Why did you guys anoint Williams as a generational quarterback when he dropped off his senior year and could not make completions unless his receivers had 3 yards or more yards of separation in college. He missed a two yard pass to a stationary target on Sunday. He is not accurate, even when he has a clean pocket. Please stop calling CW a generational qb. Anyone who does that does not have a good eye for talent, including the national and local media. Poles does not have a good eye for talent. 😊
That has to be some of the stupidest shit I’ve ever heard because when you put together the fact that he wasn’t even allowed to pick his own candidate. It is clear that he is just letting it ride out to show them McCaskeys that he needs to pick his own coach and not let the team metal with football activities and let the football people do football work. The McCaskeys are not football people.
Hopefully Poles learns from his mistakes. Its crazy to think we could have signed two i lineman for what we are paying Keenan Allen. Trade Keenan for an o lineman. We arent using him anyway. And issue an apology to DJ, Kmet and Caleb. FGB! BEAR DOWN
he building cute and not dirty and thats the problem on offense he has 3 number1 wrs u cant have 3 of them somebody is gonna get mad now if he would have kept mooney and drafted somebody in the 34d or 4th that would have been good because he goofed with tyler scott he looks like a lil child another bust
Need anything OL doesn't matter how good the QB is if they don't have time to go through the progressions. Eberflus has lost the team and needs to move on after this year. Hopefully, they can break his rediculious contract!
Flus needs to be fired after the season. I know people want Ben Johnson as the head coach, but why not go for a proven head coach? It seems the bears always go for either an offensive or defensive coordinator which might be the problem. In order to change the culture, they need a tough minded head coach like maybe mike vrabel. It’s too bad the mccaskey family has an ego problem so they will never hire a coach that gets all the attention. You never hear about the lions, Vikings, or packers owners only their head coach. Also FGB
and they said he uses that system ras somebody needs to tell him its not working out he has too many bust even the rb he aint working out 23 everybody he picks they so sorry that he dont even play them i thought i would never say this but pace picked better than poles dam the only thing poles is good for is the money books he not good at nothing else then he let everybody go roquan smith ,herbert ,montgomery ,mooney u can even say justin he let go all that offensive talent just let it walk and then he downgraded but as long as he got rid of pace guys he was ok with it because it seems like he wants this team to have all his fingerprints on it he wants to be the man the ego i bulit this this is my eye for talent poles is a bum in a suit
Poles will be back not sure of the head coach. Need a coach who knows how to get line men to play well. They look lost on coverages at time mid season and they still don’t know what assignments this is crazy
I have no idea why he kept eburflus. Should have fired him, picked a horrible OC. Had two or three coaches let go for weird reasons. When he started this rebuild in his first year, he should have went oline with the two second rounders, not the secondary!!!! Just a bunch of stupid moves that if it weren’t for the panthers trade, he would have don’t possibly one of the worst jobs any GM of the bears has done in a while.
Poles positive moves are outweighed by his negative moves....claypool and nate were clusterfarts......oline disater, coaching disasters, velus jones, etc etc etc
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Great video! Ryan Poles should have as much criticism as Eberflus. Poles came in and said “we’re going to take the NFC North and not give it back”. He has had 3 offseason with the Bears and they are still in last place in NFC North. They’re not even close to sniffing 1st place anytime soon. Get it together or get out of the way, Poles!
Thank you!
Gotta say that Waldron's ineptitude was a surprise. He looked good on paper and seemed like the right hire at the time.
As for next year (can't believe we already at the point where we're talking about next year), the Bears have to go hard after Ben Johnson. If they can't get him, they need to try Lincoln Riley. Somebody that can help Williams and those two are the most likely.
I agree
It’s beyond me that Poles’ background is O-Line and the Bears have only a couple players who can pass protect , I’ve always believed the quality of an NFL team starts with QB protection , and of course a QB with a quick release and the composure to go through his progressions . Poles has to be part of the problem and he and Flus would have to go together out the door ! 🐻🏉 John
Maybe Poles is still upset when he got cut from Bears back in the day🤣
Agreed
All of the good or decent players in the trenches are already on teams. Plus there's a shortage on good linemen apparently
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Always wish you the best, Nic, but after what Wisconsin did for this nation on 11/5 I don't care about football games too much right now. Standard procedure, Thumbs up!
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Thanks for always tuning in
Thanks Nic, appreciate you...BEAR DOWN!
I appreciate you too!
Nick, I’m very glad to hear you criticize harshly because it’s long overdue. An organization should not keep getting the benefit of the doubt when they have a lousy track record. Also, I told you during the draft week they needed an o lineman and not a receiver. Point in that is, that’s just one of the many many correct moves I have given you. So, I think I should get the autographed ball for being by far your best and smartest subscriber 😂
🤣🤣🤣 we’ll see Sunday!
We all need some patience.
Is this a joke?? Patience. You must be joking
@toofast75 calm down, kid. Did you expect a Super Bowl this year?
@pjwroblewski no one did, but the expectation was a competitive team, in the playoff picture at least. We've been practicing patience for years now. Patience is gone
Poles has had 3 off-seasons and Bears are no closer to being in 1st place in NFC North than they were when he took over. All NFC North teams have made improvements except the Bears in last 3 seasons. How much longer we need to wait?!
Fair
Itd be so nice to see the bears win this sunday but we all know the bears! going in with no expectations but hoping for the best🐻⬇️
Facts!
His seat is for sure hot. Releasing Nate Davis makes it even hotter
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Poles needs to have a perfect trenches draft and even FA this off-season in order to save his job
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i didnt think it was possible but the o line is actually worse than before Poles get here
No it’s not… the quarterback actually gets the snap now. You forget about that?
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I believe that an organization should search for o-line starters through FA. Spend big for a couple linemen and draft lineman and sit them for a year to adjust to the aggressiveness of the NFL, unless you have a can’t miss prospect in the first round.
A ton of pending this year
It’s interesting how people are NOW talking about Poles being on the hot seat when there have been people saying this for weeks and others (who are now saying he is in the hot seat) dismissing it saying he’s done a great job.
It’s become apparent
The challenge with tearing down a team and building it from scratch is that it takes years to draft, sign quality free agents and trade for good/great players.
Historically Offensive Lines take years to build… ask Detroit and Philadelphia. Detroit took six years and Philly took 4-5 years due to the scarcity of quality OL that become free agents and the scarcity of good IOL in the draft.
Poles definitely deserves some criticism because he could and should have clearly placed it as a higher priority. However, in order to clearly evaluate it, fans should look at who is available in free agency and who is available when they selected in the draft.
Also, fans need to consider some stuff is hard to predict. Nate Davis was considered a good sign at the time. No one could have predicted the impact on losing his mother would have on his motivation to play football. Also, no one could have predicted that all of the starters would get injured at the same time.
I have reviewed all of his drafts and agree with many of his selections. No GM is perfect but overall with the exception of the OL his choices imo were very good.
As far as the OL is concerned, he should have taken Raimann, Lucas or Parham instead of Velus Jones Jr.
He also should have signed Biadsz, Brewer, or Cushenberry instead of Shelton.
He has placed a band aid on the problem thus far. In the future, he needs to provide real solutions and draft quality players and free agents.
The other problem Poles has is he enables Eberflus to make very poor hiring decisions. He needs to vet Flus’s decisions because they are negatively impacting Poles credibility.
Really great comment here
Yes ! Instead of taking WR Odunze @ # 9 in the 2024 NFL Draft, I was hoping The Chicago Bears would have taken either Center Jackson Powers Johnson or Talise Fuaga as the new Right Guard who could have even played the Right Tackle position ; if needed !!!🤔 Odunze was my 3rd option !!!
Facts!
I’m a fan of Poles. But you’re right. Let’s see if he can fix the trenches
BEAR DOWN
This year all interior offense and defensive lineman fire coach stud linebacker needed!
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3rd Rd left tackle injured from Yale don't make sense
We couldn't get a left tackle from
Alabama Georgia Texas Notre Dame Oklahoma Texas Oregon
Facts
If Poles keeps his job, he HAS to take 3 OL and 1 DL in his first 4 picks (1,2,2,3)
Trenches HAVE to be addressed
no u use this whole dam draft on d line and o line forget that cute shiiiii i know yall chicago people go crazy when yall here wr yall the one thats getting poles fired for dipping in that chicago kool aide wr wr wr wr wr and he fell for it dont draft no more dam wrs but do cut allen and find a lowkey 3rd wr in free agency not a 1 or a 2 a 3 but pole dont know how to do that u cant have 3 number 1s if he would have kept mooney we would be fine mooer ,mooney and he could have drafted rome but not that high so i guess that means he wouldnt be on the team because that wr at 9 was no good and too high
Then the draft picks need a couple years to develop
Good start
Ryan be ok he's done well and will get o-line fixed
He needs to!
Bro if they don’t fire flis and get a big name hc and coordinator im protesting to fire piles
Sheeeesh
@ 😂 it’s dramatic but I’m depressed brotha 😂😂
I got a fix for this offense. Now Bear with me now ( no pun intended). Every defense the Bears have played this year is like seeing the 85 Bears coming after our quarterback. So with that being said. Remember how Dan Marino beat us? Yes I remember too. Marino beat us with short quick passes to wide receivers, running backs, tight ends. Bears coaches need to look at that game , and make a plan for Caleb Williams. I say that because our offense line is weak and can not hold off even a 3 man rush let alone 4 or 5 man rush. So any defense the Bears have been facing looks like the 85 Bears coming after our quarterback because we can’t block them . Let’s take a page from the Miami Dolphins vs Chicago Bears 1985 game, and copy their game plan, to stop all these other defenses teeing off on our quarterback! What do you think? Let me know if I am on to something here.
You might be onto something
Calm down...his first year was spent blowing up the team, cutting tons of bad players, contracts and dealing with a huge amount of dead cap and having no picks. This is only year 3... the Lions took about 5 years before they were good. Poles is not getting fired this year, and probably not next year...however, Flus will be gone.
Excuse me you Calm down. Poles missed on Davis only gets Free Agent third String Starters. Kramer whom he drafted can't play on O Line. Took a Punter in 4th Round should have taken John Alt. Who is killing it in LA Chargers. Kept Velus Jones whom he took in Third Round too long. He brought in Flus instead of hiring Brian Flores a great Head Coach. Flus brought in 3 different OCs. What are you smoking??
@@user-vo5kv9qi6k I don't smoke...Brian Flores? Another fired defensive coach? Now that's funny. Alt was taken at 5 before the Bears pick at 9. I wish fans would be as passionate about the country as they are about the NFL. So, yeah, calm down.
The Lions took 5 years and they built the trenches first. Since the Bears didn’t, how long for us?
I’ve always wondered what’s poles interest in signing injured players
Me too! Second chances?
He has made like 2 to 4 solid moves and then has made like 8-15 crappy moves, I’m thinking they should most definitely replace him and the entire coaching staff
Wow those sound like really random numbers. I don’t even need to fact check 😂
@@larrylapper586look no further than Bears win/loss records since Poles took over
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The time is going to be up if he blows the draft 25. OL needs to be No.1 then pass rush. Lets get it done. 🐻⬇
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My thoughts.
He missed big. He was worried about the defense than protecting his own QB
Facts
We need an offensive line bad !
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@ I got a fix for this offense. Now Bear with me now ( no pun intended). Every defense the Bears have played this year is like seeing the 85 Bears coming after our quarterback. So with that being said. Remember how Dan Marino beat us? Yes I remember too. Marino beat us with short quick passes to wide receivers, running backs, tight ends. Bears coaches need to look at that game , and make a plan for Caleb Williams. I say that because our offense line is weak and can not hold off even a 3 man rush let alone 4 or 5 man rush. So any defense the Bears have been facing looks like the 85 Bears coming after our quarterback because we can’t block them . Let’s take a page from the Miami Dolphins vs Chicago Bears 1985 game, and copy their game plan, to stop all these other defenses teeing off on our quarterback! What do you think? Let me know if I am on to something here.
Given bears history we most likely see poles finish his 5yr contract maybe 2027 we have a different gm
Sheeeesh
Cmon man. Rome is going to be our number 1 maybe as soon as next year, and NO teams trade good offensive lineman.
We could have drafted one is my point, already having Allen and Moore
The way Poles and Flus have treated Caleb is MALPRACTICE
Criminal
Not my man Poles!! Bear Down!
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Don’t forget about good ol Alex Leatherwood 😂
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Poles decision in the last 3 NFL DRAFTS is Problematic not takingsng Top Offensive lineman. Nick Great context
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Ya sucks because they really had me fooled this year would hate to clean house again but EVERYONE knows you build a team from the trenches out. Not to mention the Waldron hire the other 2 coaches they had to fire. Poles should be on the hot seat. FGB
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Poles will be ok. Remember he put KC together. We just need OF line, and some play calls. CW needs to step k wins than l. If playes dont play ben7
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His seat better be hot! He orchestrated this shit show!
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1. It was John Fox's last year as head coach when Trubisky was drafted. It was Nagy's last year as head coach when Fields was drafted. This will be Eberflush's last year as head coach when Caleb was drafted. Ryan Pace was the GM who drafted Trubisky and Fields. Ted Phillips was the President. Think about how stupid Warren and Poles are by doing the same thing Phillips and Pace did! Jim Harbaugh, Bill Belichick, Ben Johnson, Dan Quinn, Kliff Kingsbury were all available this past offseason.
2. I think we'll all agree that left tackle is not only the most important position on the offensive line, but one of the premiere positions overall. Poles thinks a 5th rd pick from Southern Utah and an injured 3rd rd pick from Yale is the way to address left tackle. You draft your stud left tackle from a SEC or B1G school. You'll occasionally find a stud LT from the BIG 12 or ACC as well, but the Big Sky Conference and the Ivy League? That's a joke. The Lucas Patrick and Nate Davis signings were also a joke. There were so many red flags about both before they signed it was incredible, but Poles still gave them hefty contracts. Ryan Bates is a career utility backup. He's a nice depth piece to have, but you trade a 5th rd pick for him? You could've drafted a young offensive guard who is actually starting caliber and is on a rookie contract for 4 years in the 5th rd. Poles hasn't taken the center position seriously either. We've passed on some young stud centers the past two drafts. Guys who could've started from the jump who have pro-bowl potential.
3. Poles draft misses and free agent signing misses are embarrassing. You draft a 25 yr old WR who can't run routes and isn't known for having good hands in the 3rd rd in Velus Jones Jr. That pick could've been used to draft a guy who is now in his 3rd season as a starting guard or center. 2022 draft busts: Velus Jones, Braxton Jones, Dominique Robinson, Zachary Thomas, Trestan Ebner, Doug Kramer, Ja'Tyre Carter. 2023 draft busts: Zacch Pickens, Tyler Scott, Noah Sewell, Travis Bell, Kendall Williamson. 2024 draft bust: Kiran Amegadjie. Free agent signing busts: Michael Schofield, Khari Blasingame, Tavon Young, Dakota Dozier, Dane Cruikshank, Trevor Siemian, Byron Pringle, Eq St Brown, Dante Pettis, Al Quadin Muhammad, Nicholas Morrow, Lucas Patrick, PJ Walker, Robert Tonyan, Nic, you're welcome for that list lol.
Need to also touch on the signing of Tremaine Edmunds. He's a solid LB, however is it worth giving a solid LB a 4yr, $72mil deal? I don't think so. That money could've been used to sign a stud center or guard. There's really not much if any difference between Edmunds and Sanborn. TJ Edwards was signed the same offseason. It's not worth investing that much money in LB. You should be able to draft LBs who offer the same results. Edwards has been a stud though. He's outperformed Edmunds and only on a 3yr, $19.5mil deal.
Look at all those draft busts and free agent signing busts! Poles has literally no clue! He needs to go!
Wow….YIKES! Good points!
@JAYChi_Bears thanks. Broski breaks it down
Travesty, as I have written many times, Poles has reassembled this team backwards. He started with the roof and ignored the foundation. I give him one more draft then it's put up or move on. Plus pick a topflight head coach next year. If not, I nominate Nic as the next GM.
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It was a mistake to trade Fields and draft Williams it set the team back at least 1-2 years. Trading the first overall pick would have improve the roster dramatically and help coaches even if they kept Eberflus. Poles needs to fire Eberflus!
The large reason why Poles should be on the hot seat is because he manufactured a whole at a position that wasn't a need.
Imagine if the Bears traded the 1st overall pick to the Commanders or Patriots... It would have netted conservatively the 2nd or 3rd overall pick, a second-round pick, a third-round pick and a 1st or 2nd round pick in the 2025 draft. So, the argument was never about the Caleb v Justin... It was Caleb plus the current draft v Justin, MHJ, DE Verse, C Frazier, OG Puni + plus the current draft.
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Jay, what lineman that were drafted in his first year that you would have wanted him to draft instead of Gordan and Brisker? Do the same for years 2 and 3. I get you are frustrated but it really isn't that easy. Truly look at the O lineman drafted after the Bears picked in each year and tell me who he should have taken. Poles took best availiable based on his and his scouts analysis and thats what you do when you are basically starting from scratch. I'll wait for your answer or anyone else that would like to chime in.
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I'll do a breakdown soon on that!
Just hoping wins for the rest of the season and no one has to lose their jobs.
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I think I have said this quite a bit, but Poles does need to go. His good decisions are outnumbered by his bad decisions. I really doubt they will get rid of him or Eberflus, because that is the McCaskey way. What a mess….again.
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Warren should have been hired first, and Warren should have hired the GM. This was part of the problem in the beginning. Ass Backwards
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I recently asked for bears fans to provide a grade for Ryan Poles.
I personally gave him a C-
However, the consensus showed that he is more in the C range in the eyes of bears fans.
Unfortunately, the more information that is coming out proves to us that we are all wrong.
The bears NEED to FIRE Poles and company!!!!!
Poles’ only somewhat good decision was the trade with Carolina which it could even be questioned on how everything is turning out.
He drafted Caleb and kept the worst coach in bears history when he had the opportunity to bring in Jim Harbaugh, Dan Quinn, Mike Vrabel, or even Ben Johnson.
This decision by Poles is destroying the bears from inside out.
The players are in charge NOW and that’s NEVER a good sign.
Poles’ bad decisions are so numerous that I cannot list them in one post.
Therefore, Poles needs to be FIRED ASAP!!!!!
PS: Kevin Warren was brought to Chicago to direct the stadium project and that’s it.
He has no knowledge of player personnel or coaches, etc…
George McCaskey needs to do this the right way and hire first a President of Operations with HUGE knowledge of football and then that person decides who to hire as GM. Then, the GM hires the HC. Then, the HC hires his coordinators and position coaches.
It’s that simple in theory and hard in execution. I UNDERSTAND!!!!!
George McCaskey, you are on the clock now!!!!!
I just gave you the formula for success so it is time to execute!!!!!
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His job is safe.
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I am a big poles fan to but I definitely think he's making too many mistakes if we are ever going to be a super bowl contender we got to strengthen our offensive line and defensive line
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Poles should Go to.
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Poles is NOT on the hot seat, that is rediculous. He is going to get 2 more years, minimum. The roster was garbage when he took over and it takes more than 3 years to fix. Some yall so impatient. He is going to spend the next 2 years fixing the trenches. I know it is not how it is normally done but it is just the way things worked out based on the lack of draft capital early on. ALL GMs miss on picks and free agents and you have to take the good with the bad. The Bears need stability for once, so tired of fans wanting to fire everyone as soon as times get a little tuff. I trust Poles and Flus to get it right in the next few years and then it will be playoffs EVERY year. I truly believe that.
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I know hindsight is 20/20, Nick, BUT, Ryan Poles should be fired after this year because he let a golden opportunity slip right through his fingers.
I really thought he was smart enough not to Draft Caleb and instead trade the 1st overall.
With that draft capital he could’ve built an ELITE o-line.
He could’ve then signed Derrick Henry instead of little Swift and kept JF.
We would’ve ran the ball down everyone’s throats and keep our defense off the field and well rested.
Instead he listened to the hype and threw away years of draft capital and with that, could’ve drafted a qb somewhere down the road if JF didn’t thrive behind a great o-line.
That’s why Poles should be seeing his last year as DaBears GM.
Omg...If I hear again about JF I am gonna puke. Jf was NOT it. He's a backup in Pittsburgh for a reason. He's a runner. Can't play QB
@@toofast75 puke all you want. I dgaf!
@@toofast75 and you completely missed the point!
The elite o-line is the point.
I said if JF didn’t thrive behind that great o-line, Poles would’ve had enough draft capital to draft a qb next year but at least the o-line would’ve been badass! You pukester!
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OH NOOOO NOT KING POLES LOL
Also “In Poles we trust”…..NOT!!!
Don buuuuurrrrr
I don't see how you see that and he's done. Nothing but f*** this team up. We could have gone a whole different direction and got more draft picks which our team was depleted of talent and he hadn't got to go have his Caleb and have his guy. Well, his guy aint doing it. Is lying aint doing it? His defense align aint doing it. There's players he signed that are gone I mean ridiculous. He needs to go.
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Sure missed on Joe Alt
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We are a mess
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When Poles signed Dozier, I knew he was trash....turns out I was right
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Poles has made like 2 to 4 good moves and then like 8-15 bad moves
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He failed everywhere else on the oline so if he got a tackle or center and not Rome that line play would still be a dumpster fire ,poles as a lineman makes bad oline scouting and worse bad hiring coaches and more for not firing them b4 it's a year too late
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Would Poles have lost his job if the Head coach was kicked out?
Mmmm…likely not
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Poles is letting me down. But also the Bears Organization needs to stop with the we don't fire coaches mid season. So I can't put everything on him. We look like a high school team and it's embarrassing
Yes we can put it on Poles. He should have fired Eberflus last offseason. We look like a high school team because of the mistakes Poles made since taking over.
It’s sad
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Get Poles out of here he flunk every thing by not trading the pick and building this team up he was so stuck on on getting his guys he set us back 3 too 4 years
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why they are not utilizing Colin Johnson who is 6'6" Let this guy play what is wrong with Eberflus for this decision l want Ryan Poles to let Colin Johnson Caleb Williams need all his weapons" and why he's not using the Red challenge flags for the team #ClawsOut🐻🐻❄️⬇️
Great question. Guy wants to play
Go get Gruden
Let's go! Thanks for watching :)
Orrrrrr poles could’ve bought an OL instead of Keenan and kept Rome. Then package our 3rd and fourth and a ‘25 second to get into the second rd to get a center! But noooooooo! We needed a broken LT and a punter
Agreed!!!!
Who ever is picking the uppers doesn’t know their job. I’d do the same or better for half the pay.
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Poles should be fired because he has a conflict of interest by he and Eberflus having Trace Armstrong as their agent and this is why Eberflus has a 5 year contract and he may not get fired this off season
Nonesense! Eberflus must go!
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Yeah! Nepotism could be a powerfully persuasive reason this regime is still intact. Can you actually f--king believe that Everlose wanted to keep Waldron in as OC? Just move him upstairs! WTF?
Poles should be fired because he drafted the worst quarterback in this draft class in Caleb Williams. Why did you guys anoint Williams as a generational quarterback when he dropped off his senior year and could not make completions unless his receivers had 3 yards or more yards of separation in college. He missed a two yard pass to a stationary target on Sunday. He is not accurate, even when he has a clean pocket.
Please stop calling CW a generational qb. Anyone who does that does not have a good eye for talent, including the national and local media. Poles does not have a good eye for talent. 😊
That has to be some of the stupidest shit I’ve ever heard because when you put together the fact that he wasn’t even allowed to pick his own candidate. It is clear that he is just letting it ride out to show them McCaskeys that he needs to pick his own coach and not let the team metal with football activities and let the football people do football work. The McCaskeys are not football people.
Hopefully Poles learns from his mistakes. Its crazy to think we could have signed two i lineman for what we are paying Keenan Allen. Trade Keenan for an o lineman. We arent using him anyway. And issue an apology to DJ, Kmet and Caleb. FGB! BEAR DOWN
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I’ve been telling you this for the past year Poles has been a disaster.
No denial
he building cute and not dirty and thats the problem on offense he has 3 number1 wrs u cant have 3 of them somebody is gonna get mad now if he would have kept mooney and drafted somebody in the 34d or 4th that would have been good because he goofed with tyler scott he looks like a lil child another bust
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the offensive line has been bad for tooooooo loooooong!!!!!
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For starters fire Flus
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Need anything OL doesn't matter how good the QB is if they don't have time to go through the progressions. Eberflus has lost the team and needs to move on after this year. Hopefully, they can break his rediculious contract!
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About time he Sucks Big Time he use to play on the offense line! Why did he never draft a offense line man! He should get fire yay about time
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Ryan poles better do something. Call bakhtiari
He's old and done.
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Poles isn't any better than Pace or any of the previous 5 GMs hired by the McCaskeys !
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Flus needs to be fired after the season. I know people want Ben Johnson as the head coach, but why not go for a proven head coach? It seems the bears always go for either an offensive or defensive coordinator which might be the problem. In order to change the culture, they need a tough minded head coach like maybe mike vrabel. It’s too bad the mccaskey family has an ego problem so they will never hire a coach that gets all the attention. You never hear about the lions, Vikings, or packers owners only their head coach. Also FGB
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Maybe Poles is jealous because he doesn’t want any lineman better than Poles was as a lineman
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You need to cut out the caffeine.
Don’t drink any
God willing, Eberlose is gone even if we get over .500
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and they said he uses that system ras somebody needs to tell him its not working out he has too many bust even the rb he aint working out 23 everybody he picks they so sorry that he dont even play them i thought i would never say this but pace picked better than poles dam the only thing poles is good for is the money books he not good at nothing else then he let everybody go roquan smith ,herbert ,montgomery ,mooney u can even say justin he let go all that offensive talent just let it walk and then he downgraded but as long as he got rid of pace guys he was ok with it because it seems like he wants this team to have all his fingerprints on it he wants to be the man the ego i bulit this this is my eye for talent poles is a bum in a suit
All fair points
Praying Kevin Warren fires Poles and Flus. Bring in Bellichek or Vrabel no more first time Coaches. We must get Caleb help at O Line. Draft DTackles.
We’ll find out!
You don’t go to the dollar store and buy a offensive line.
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Poles will be back not sure of the head coach. Need a coach who knows how to get line men to play well. They look lost on coverages at time mid season and they still don’t know what assignments this is crazy
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He should have just not hired flus
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Poles moves 🔍is being looked at he's overrated.
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Maybe Poles can’t identify what a good lineman is, because he wasn’t one!
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I have no idea why he kept eburflus. Should have fired him, picked a horrible OC. Had two or three coaches let go for weird reasons. When he started this rebuild in his first year, he should have went oline with the two second rounders, not the secondary!!!! Just a bunch of stupid moves that if it weren’t for the panthers trade, he would have don’t possibly one of the worst jobs any GM of the bears has done in a while.
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Poles positive moves are outweighed by his negative moves....claypool and nate were clusterfarts......oline disater, coaching disasters, velus jones, etc etc etc
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Poles has lots of misses...he should go...neglected the O line is ridiculous
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He fired all of the coaches but kept the leader of his bull!! Both of them should be fired..
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