Just wanted to thank you for this excellent video - not just how to fix this problem, but how to effectively diagnose the correct root cause. Really grateful, thanks!
Great vlog it’s going to be helpful to many people,in my case this year it was the impeller was sticking and some gentle spinning did the trick thanks keep um coming.
I've been reading the instruction manual multiple times, cheking forums and hunting for a solution for almost 3 weeks. A quick Google took mew to your video, and located the problem (dodgy fuse!) in less than 5 minutes. Brilliant - thanks!
Thank you. Removing the connector from the PCB and plugging back in a few times while holding the button (so I knew when it started to work again) worked for me. Thanks
Mine is C262 model. The fuse is in the main 12volt fuses under Sprite caravan seat. It turned out to be the tiny pump in the cistern was seized and just needed a spin with pointed tool. I accessed the pump by peeling back the label on the flush switch and prising out the switch assembly. Then remove the 2 screws and pull up the pipes with the pump on the end. Surprising how much scale and bits had accumulated in the pump impeller. Thanks for giving me some clues 👍
For the benefit of any Newbies with a flushing issue. 1) This video only relates to toilets with a separate flush tank. Toilets which use the main water pump to flush with water from the main water tank are very different. 2) The common cause of the impeller getting jammed is black flakes forming in the flush tank. The major cause of black flakes is leaving the flush tank standing with a solution of pink fluid in when not in use. a) Drain the flush tank at the end of each break; b) If it will be unused over winter, flush the flush tank with plain water before draining.
Great video. Followed step by step as per the video and found the pump impeller jammed (hadn't been used for almost 2 years due to Covid lockdown). Removed pump and spun manually then back-flushed with mains water. Working perfectly now. Thanks for your excellent video.
@@thecaravanplace hi, I have this issue but when I put multiple on switch/PCB board (brown and blue) I’m getting no reading so I bought a new PCB board buddy still have the same issue. I have 12v coming in and hooked up to power. Hope you can help. Fuse checked also seems ok. Getting power into board so can’t be fuse can it?
Thanks for your video, the only one that explains how to check the components. My fuse (2020 Coachman) is actually on board the main fuse board and shared with the external water pump.
Thanks for this! Watched in case the problem was not straightforward, but turned out to be a blown fuse (which was well corroded as you pointed out). 👍🏻
Thanks followed your fault finding , perfect. It ended up being a stuck pump Gave the impala a little push with the meter probe as you suggested and boom of it went. I belive the blue fluid is responsible, very gunky. Pink only for us now.
always carry a spare fuse and reed switch pcb. My pump used to fail after each winter, till I took the cassette out over winter and stored in garage - this airs the cassetter compartment over winter.
@@peterward2357 i just cleaned the corroded connections, sprayed with silicone spray and it has been working great since. I now know where to go looking next time.
@@thecaravanplace It did indeed thanks again.Was so lucky as there is a great little caravan accessory shop about a mile from the site we are on, who had a replacement pump in store. 10 to 15 minutes to swap out, running good as new.
Great, thanks, helped me a lot. Confidence is everything. Mine didnt work after the fuse and the board behind the button, fixed it by replacing the board down below - the fill level thingy. These are simple systems, although I think in my case the pump is harder to find.
Did you find the pump? I cannot find mine so I am assuming the main water pump must be used for toilet flush. My intermittent problem seems to be at the connector to the switch logic board. Don’t think I could replace the connector even though it looks clean and no corrosion.
My problem was the impeller not spinning. The clue was the fact that the lights dimmed very slightly when I pressed the button so I thought power must be getting through
Hi there this is a good video is there any more tips and tricks as my one is not working I’ve changed the board the pump is working I’ve changed the fuse and it’s still not working
It's testing where you have power, start at the power coming in or on both sides of the power, then if you have power getting to the board? Then pressing the button and do you have power to the pump wires. It could be the wiring harness if you have power getting to the board. The little white connector that goes on the board could be faulty and needs replacing if you have power getting to the board. Hope this helps.
At 2:00 a degreaser is sprayed on the fuse. By itself this will do nothing. Any grease or dirt on the pins will not be removed unless you use a clean cloth to wipe off the grease that will have been dissolved by the de-greaser. Also you really shouldn't spray the solvent onto your bare skin.
Would you happen to know about the C262 Flush? Changed PCB but cables to the block came away when cleaning and struggling to determine which ports the 3 black cables go to £60 + for a new harness and then having to remove toilet to connect it up.(Want to avoid paying Cannot find any diagrams anywhere. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Martin (Just realised I am logged onto google as my daughter!)
Multimeter shows -13V (minus) when I check red and black wires. Why minus? Is it normal? Anyway my problem is if I switch on main power switch in the campervan, that c250 PCB heats up quickly and would probably melt if I won't switch of main power. What can be wrong? Polarity? Or PCB dead?
Yes the minus is saying the positive and negative are wrong, if u swap the prongs over so red goes to black and black to red, it will read correct if it is wired wrong. You will need to try and find where the power comes from and see the supply to the toilet is wired wrong?
Ours has stopped working. Our fuse is a green 30amp fuse. Is this correct as everyone I've seen it's always a purple 3amp one. We have a elddis avante.
told my dad about this video, checked the fuse first and it was corroded so he cleaned it and tested it with multi meter and it was completely dead so we are fairly sure that it is that. We've also recently replaced the grey and orange toilet cassette as that had also broken (the opening ring blade mechanism had corroded/split so we believe that the toilet must have leaked because the cassette was broken and the fuse has got wet which would explain the corrosion. Not 100% sure where to get a replacement though.
@@thecaravanplace we are not too sure if its just the fuse so will also investigate the reed switch, the flush button and the pump like you suggested. super helpful video so thanks a tonne. saves having to contact dealer etc.
My thetford toilet with a C250 cassette is intermittent in working, I’ve removed the flush plate as shown but there isn’t a pump in this area, do the toilets have a separate pump or could it be the main water pump that is being used?
Hi Peter, the pump will either be top right from when you look at where you take the cassette out from outside, or when you remover the push button control panel, you will see 2 screws that hold the pump but this is the c260 model where the pump is inside.
@@thecaravanplace : thanks for your info, with the cassette removed there are only cables going up to the toilet flush, removing toilet flush panel it lifts out with about 12 inches of slack cables, removing the 2 screws and there is only daylight looking down to the cassette area, the screws do not hold anything in place in fact you can see daylight through the 2 holes. So no pump in this area. Maybe my 2008 motorhome has a hybrid C250 toilet. I have photos if I can attach them to my comments I will, your further advice would be appreciated.
@@thecaravanplace thanks for your reply I looked yesterday and had to replace the fuse for the auxiliary sockets I cannot see anything that looks like it might be for the toilet Thanks
Our toilet stopped flushing at the start of the season. I checked the fuse which seems to be ok. The red toilet full light is working but not the flush. I’ve fitted a new control panel but still nothing . Any advice please.?
Hi Gwen, you need to test if you have power on the board, so twst if power is coming to the board and then test if you have power going to the pump when you push the button. If you have power when pushing the button, its the actual pump, if no power then its finding why you don't have power.
Possibly to the board but that might be from the sensor that says the cassette is full. If u start at the pump wires on the flush board inside, check you have power then to rhe pump when pressing the flush button, if not work backwards and check the power.
Didnt work for me, red and black wire = 12V, Brown and blue = 8.4 vault , replaced circuit board with new one, changed fuse, replaced Reed switch, still no joy
Either pipe has come off, or the inside diaphragm is no good, if you search for a new manual pump, you will see what it looks like and be able to remove and check the pipe is connected, if it is it will most likely need a new pump.
Utterly frustrating when this just will not work. No external fuse as it is built into the circuit board. Pump works, voltage at the board but after trying 3 very expensive boards still nothing. Very poor design and manufacture
Just wanted to thank you for this excellent video - not just how to fix this problem, but how to effectively diagnose the correct root cause. Really grateful, thanks!
Thanks for providing a two minute fix, I didn't even know there was a fuse behind the cassette so saved me time working it out! Cheers
Brilliant ‘how too’ video.
Other ‘how toos’ should do it like this. Well done.
Glad you liked it!
Great vlog it’s going to be helpful to many people,in my case this year it was the impeller was sticking and some gentle spinning did the trick thanks keep um coming.
Thanks Mark. Just arrive for 2 weeks on France and flush wasn't working. Impeller needed freeing up and lubricating. You've saved our holiday😊
Fantastic, enjoy your time away. 👍
You've saved our life again...we now have a flushing loo on out trip to France!! Cheers!!
Fantastic, glad to head Wendy. Have a great time.
I've been reading the instruction manual multiple times, cheking forums and hunting for a solution for almost 3 weeks. A quick Google took mew to your video, and located the problem (dodgy fuse!) in less than 5 minutes. Brilliant - thanks!
Great, glad it helped 👍
Ha, im on holiday, first day out with no toilet flush. Should get it fixed tomorrow, have my tool with me 😃. Thanks for your help.
Fantastic video, informative and to the point. Mine was a bad connection, which I found easily due to your video. Thanks again.
Great little vlog, ours didn't work about 5 weeks ago it was the connection on the top.
thankyou, by listening to you my toilet flush is now working, so easy to fix
Brilliant 👍
Great video. Thanks to this you helped my fix ours. Appreciate the time and effort you put into this vid!
Thank you so very, very much. Because of your detailed video, I was able to fix my toilet myself. Replaced the controller and the E fuse. Cheers!
Great 👍
Great tips. Mine was a fuse that looked intact but was not conducting. Thanks.
Thank you. Removing the connector from the PCB and plugging back in a few times while holding the button (so I knew when it started to work again) worked for me.
Thanks
Mine is C262 model. The fuse is in the main 12volt fuses under Sprite caravan seat. It turned out to be the tiny pump in the cistern was seized and just needed a spin with pointed tool. I accessed the pump by peeling back the label on the flush switch and prising out the switch assembly. Then remove the 2 screws and pull up the pipes with the pump on the end.
Surprising how much scale and bits had accumulated in the pump impeller.
Thanks for giving me some clues 👍
Agree wholeheartedly with previous comments. Excellent comprehensive video.
For the benefit of any Newbies with a flushing issue.
1) This video only relates to toilets with a separate flush tank. Toilets which use the main water pump to flush with water from the main water tank are very different.
2) The common cause of the impeller getting jammed is black flakes forming in the flush tank. The major cause of black flakes is leaving the flush tank standing with a solution of pink fluid in when not in use. a) Drain the flush tank at the end of each break; b) If it will be unused over winter, flush the flush tank with plain water before draining.
Brill..bad connection under button..just wiggled it. Probably saved me loads thanks
Your tips worked a treat fella, thankyou 😉
Works great, no issues. Fills and empties easily.
Great video. Will need to visit caravan in storage to test but helpful to know what ereas to look - especially how to get out the button pcb!
Very helpful Mark, thanks 😊
Just to add my thanks to AH's comments - great explanation simply explained.
Thanks Keith 👍
Thanks Mark, very helpful.
Great video. Followed step by step as per the video and found the pump impeller jammed (hadn't been used for almost 2 years due to Covid lockdown). Removed pump and spun manually then back-flushed with mains water. Working perfectly now. Thanks for your excellent video.
Fantastic, glad this helped.
@@thecaravanplace hi, I have this issue but when I put multiple on switch/PCB board (brown and blue) I’m getting no reading so I bought a new PCB board buddy still have the same issue. I have 12v coming in and hooked up to power. Hope you can help. Fuse checked also seems ok. Getting power into board so can’t be fuse can it?
*multimeter*
Very thorough and well explained
Glad it's helped 👍
Thanks Mark, very informative.
Winner! Your video advice allowed me to free up my jammed pump as you described. Thanks.
Brilliant. Thanks for your comment and glad it helped.
Thanks for your video, the only one that explains how to check the components. My fuse (2020 Coachman) is actually on board the main fuse board and shared with the external water pump.
Thanks Dave
Very helpful. My problem was that the pump was stuck and by giving it a few turns and spray with WD it did the trick.
Fantastic advice! Toilet flush now working!
Fantastic, glad to hear this helped.
Thanks, this vid really help. In my case it was the pump.
Very good and useful video. Thank's.👍😎🇫🇮
Thanks, I cleaned fuse and wiggled contacts on top of cistern and now it works.
Nice work!
Great Video Mark. My toilet pump is not working and tried the fuse so will follow your other tests tomorrow 👍🤔😁
Fingers crossed.
Excellent video clear and consise
You are a real Gem. Keep youtubing
Thanks for this! Watched in case the problem was not straightforward, but turned out to be a blown fuse (which was well corroded as you pointed out). 👍🏻
Glad this has helped. Thanks for the comment.
I can’t find my fuse on Bailey Unicorn Cadiz 2012
Very helpful, thank you 👍
Thanks followed your fault finding , perfect. It ended up being a stuck pump Gave the impala a little push with the meter probe as you suggested and boom of it went. I belive the blue fluid is responsible, very gunky. Pink only for us now.
Worked for me! Thx👍🏻
Great 👍
What is the multimeter you’re using? Where do I get one and what do I ask for please. I’ve replaced all items you’ve listed but no joy🤦♀️
Hi thank you so much thanks to you I got it working
Thank You Pal for Your great video 👍🏻.
Glad it helped 👍
always carry a spare fuse and reed switch pcb. My pump used to fail after each winter, till I took the cassette out over winter and stored in garage - this airs the cassetter compartment over winter.
Great video, big help , thank you
Thanks.
Excellent video, very helpful
Glad it was helpful!
Great Vid thanks
Very happy with video really helped thank you
Great, glad it helped.
Wasn't working, cleaned the fuse as instructed, now working perfect. CH££RS !!!
Thanks for this it was the connection at the top so thanks for your help!
Did you replace the connector or the circuit board?
@@peterward2357 i just cleaned the corroded connections, sprayed with silicone spray and it has been working great since. I now know where to go looking next time.
Brilliant just arrived on site no flush. Will use all your pointers to locate. Thankyou
Hopefully this got you back up and running.
@@thecaravanplace It did indeed thanks again.Was so lucky as there is a great little caravan accessory shop about a mile from the site we are on, who had a replacement pump in store. 10 to 15 minutes to swap out, running good as new.
Fantastic, I'll be following you all the time!
Thanks👍
That was perfect done the job.
👍
Where does the 12 v supply come from to the toilet and is it fused anywhere 2011 lunar lexon 630 thanks
Great video thanks.
Thanks Robert
Good job
Great, thanks, helped me a lot. Confidence is everything. Mine didnt work after the fuse and the board behind the button, fixed it by replacing the board down below - the fill level thingy. These are simple systems, although I think in my case the pump is harder to find.
Great to hear.👍
Did you find the pump? I cannot find mine so I am assuming the main water pump must be used for toilet flush. My intermittent problem seems to be at the connector to the switch logic board. Don’t think I could replace the connector even though it looks clean and no corrosion.
Thanks problem solved at no cost 🤗
Great to hear.
Thank you
Thanks 👍
Don't forget to check the fuse holder for corrosion.
Great thanks Chris
Brilliant - fuse was faulty. Problem solved - thanks
Great 👍
My problem was the impeller not spinning. The clue was the fact that the lights dimmed very slightly when I pressed the button so I thought power must be getting through
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GREAT CHEERS MATE
Thanks Simon. 👍
Excellent video. Ours is an intermittent problem...i.e.minimal amounts of water coming in. Any suggestions?
Possible bad connection, they do a electrical spray that may help. Its not very expensive so worth a try on the connections on the press button pcb.
Hi there this is a good video is there any more tips and tricks as my one is not working I’ve changed the board the pump is working I’ve changed the fuse and it’s still not working
It's testing where you have power, start at the power coming in or on both sides of the power, then if you have power getting to the board? Then pressing the button and do you have power to the pump wires. It could be the wiring harness if you have power getting to the board. The little white connector that goes on the board could be faulty and needs replacing if you have power getting to the board. Hope this helps.
At 2:00 a degreaser is sprayed on the fuse. By itself this will do nothing. Any grease or dirt on the pins will not be removed unless you use a clean cloth to wipe off the grease that will have been dissolved by the de-greaser. Also you really shouldn't spray the solvent onto your bare skin.
Would you happen to know about the C262 Flush? Changed PCB but cables to the block came away when cleaning and struggling to determine which ports the 3 black cables go to £60 + for a new harness and then having to remove toilet to connect it up.(Want to avoid paying Cannot find any diagrams anywhere. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Martin (Just realised I am logged onto google as my daughter!)
I think they are a common negative so shouldn't matter where they go.
Multimeter shows -13V (minus) when I check red and black wires. Why minus? Is it normal? Anyway my problem is if I switch on main power switch in the campervan, that c250 PCB heats up quickly and would probably melt if I won't switch of main power. What can be wrong? Polarity? Or PCB dead?
Yes the minus is saying the positive and negative are wrong, if u swap the prongs over so red goes to black and black to red, it will read correct if it is wired wrong. You will need to try and find where the power comes from and see the supply to the toilet is wired wrong?
Ours has stopped working. Our fuse is a green 30amp fuse. Is this correct as everyone I've seen it's always a purple 3amp one. We have a elddis avante.
Should be a 3amp fuse. Hopefully if you work through as in the video, you can get it working 👍
told my dad about this video, checked the fuse first and it was corroded so he cleaned it and tested it with multi meter and it was completely dead so we are fairly sure that it is that. We've also recently replaced the grey and orange toilet cassette as that had also broken (the opening ring blade mechanism had corroded/split so we believe that the toilet must have leaked because the cassette was broken and the fuse has got wet which would explain the corrosion. Not 100% sure where to get a replacement though.
If you have a google and should find a few online. Hope this helps.
@@thecaravanplace we are not too sure if its just the fuse so will also investigate the reed switch, the flush button and the pump like you suggested. super helpful video so thanks a tonne. saves having to contact dealer etc.
My thetford toilet with a C250 cassette is intermittent in working, I’ve removed the flush plate as shown but there isn’t a pump in this area, do the toilets have a separate pump or could it be the main water pump that is being used?
Hi Peter, the pump will either be top right from when you look at where you take the cassette out from outside, or when you remover the push button control panel, you will see 2 screws that hold the pump but this is the c260 model where the pump is inside.
@@thecaravanplace : thanks for your info, with the cassette removed there are only cables going up to the toilet flush, removing toilet flush panel it lifts out with about 12 inches of slack cables, removing the 2 screws and there is only daylight looking down to the cassette area, the screws do not hold anything in place in fact you can see daylight through the 2 holes. So no pump in this area. Maybe my 2008 motorhome has a hybrid C250 toilet. I have photos if I can attach them to my comments I will, your further advice would be appreciated.
If you want to send a picture to thecaravanplace@aol.com and I can have a look
Do Swift charisma 230, 2010year have the same fize
In theory it should be similar but if you google a 2010 for lengths etc.
Hi there, I can’t even get the fuse out :-( any smart ideas please? It’s stuck solid. Thanks
Have u tried soaking with wd40?
Ah no I haven’t actually. I’ll try that. It’s got wet where the fuse is and probably why it’s not working so I’ll keep trying. Thank you
When I checked ours a cable has come out of the connector. Any ideas how to reconnect please.
You can buy a new wiring loom, this will probably be your best bet
Hi
What if my pump keeps running please , what would you suggest
Sounds like the button is stuck, or shorted, so sounds like a new pcb possibly, try pressing the button lots to see if it fixes it.
Have they stopped making the 50710 thetford pcb board for c250 cwe
You should still be able to get the same pcb board. Stock shortages are causing problems with parts at the moment though.
@@thecaravanplace would the 50709 be an alternative .
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I put a sandwich bag over the reed switch to keep the damp off it (“damp” killed the board, had to buy another one…)
Great idea, they are in a silly place really.
I cannot find the fuse anywhere on my Bailey Unicorn Cadiz 2012 ?
It may be in the main fuse boards with the trip switches possibly under the front seats?
@@thecaravanplace thanks for your reply I looked yesterday and had to replace the fuse for the auxiliary sockets I cannot see anything that looks like it might be for the toilet Thanks
Our toilet stopped flushing at the start of the season. I checked the fuse which seems to be ok. The red toilet full light is working but not the flush. I’ve fitted a new control panel but still nothing . Any advice please.?
Hi Gwen, you need to test if you have power on the board, so twst if power is coming to the board and then test if you have power going to the pump when you push the button. If you have power when pushing the button, its the actual pump, if no power then its finding why you don't have power.
So the fact that the red ‘toilet full’ light works doesn’t mean there is power going in?
Possibly to the board but that might be from the sensor that says the cassette is full. If u start at the pump wires on the flush board inside, check you have power then to rhe pump when pressing the flush button, if not work backwards and check the power.
Ok thank you.
Why doesn't one come up with a super cheap disposable cassette?! Make sense!
Didnt work for me, red and black wire = 12V, Brown and blue = 8.4 vault , replaced circuit board with new one, changed fuse, replaced Reed switch, still no joy
Is the pump stuck, possibly remove pump and try on a direct 12v supply,
I've got a c250 and I found out that the fuse was blown. I replaced it and as soon as I switched the power on the fuse blown. What can be the problem?
The pump is no good and needs replacing. Thanks 👍
Hand pump not working any idea's
Either pipe has come off, or the inside diaphragm is no good, if you search for a new manual pump, you will see what it looks like and be able to remove and check the pipe is connected, if it is it will most likely need a new pump.
Can you tell me the name of the electrical spray please?
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Many thanks. Excellent videos too.
Thanks Sue
Utterly frustrating when this just will not work. No external fuse as it is built into the circuit board. Pump works, voltage at the board but after trying 3 very expensive boards still nothing. Very poor design and manufacture
They can be a real pain, hope you get to the bottom of it.
why does everyone say literally all the time? totally unnecessary and pisses me off 🤬
Fantastic video, informative and to the point. Mine was a bad connection, which I found easily due to your video. Thanks again.