Honda Transalp vs Suzuki V-Strom 800DE Which Would I Buy?
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Comparing the new Honda Transalp XL750 and the Suzuki V-Strom 800DE. Which would you buy? I'm going to pick a winner in this video.
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better suspensions, better range, definitely Vstrom, not to mention a more interesting aesthetics to my taste...
I’d definitely go with the VStrom with its larger tank and the quick shift. If you preorder it with the lower seat Suzuki toss in a rack and top box . I wish Suzuki would offer the Orange available on the 250 version and cruise control as an option.
As far as the weight difference is concerned. A pretty good chunk of that can be explained with the extras that are Included on the Suzuki that are not on the Honda.
1. Larger fuel capacity
2. Lower engine guard and Skid plate
3. Factory handguards
4. Quickshifter
5. Accessory mount above the dash
6. Bolt on subframe
Also The Suzuki makes 57ftlbs of torque. (More than the Honda) and it makes its power lower in the rev range so its more useful.
Add to that the much better Suspension on the Suzuki and I think the Suzuki wins this match up
yapp, 57ftlbs. important quality.
Needs upgrading in the video ;)
And suspension is fully adjustable (front and rear).
I Love the Suzuki V-Strom 1050 Dessert Express ♥️ Transalp buyer have best value for Money Bike in my Eyes. Honda Fans with Cash can Buy the Afrika Twin♥️
Most riding is below 5000rpm,yes,the Suzuki is a clear winner....wouldn't say I wouldn't buy the Transalp,there's just something missing...colour wise,the black one for me,but the Suzuki is far more appealing, especially with Hessler and Trail de Couvert constantly developing new parts for the their bikes(Hessler 800DEs look amazing already).
The Suzi also looks like it's going to be easier to service, especially if Transalp is anything like the Africa Twin.
From what I have seen the Suzuki has easier maintenance. Air filter , battery access. I’m fresh off the Africa Twin and I could care less about cruise control. I want to clean my air filter easily, not have to remove the fairing or gas tank to get to it.
You have BRILLIANT videos.
The riding position is a key-factor for sure and that is probably the reason that "specialized" reviews don´t talk to much about it.
Congratulations.
Thank you!
Next week I gonna get my Transalp...can't wait, after long time with cb500x which is a great one
Suzuki...Hessler(Germany)listened to me,sort the seat out,they've done it first!
Cannot see where the £2500 extra over it's sister,the 8S?
HONDA FOR ME EXTRA WIEGHT I N THE DIRT IS ATRUE LIABILITY HONDA REFINEMENT AND QUALITY IS REALLY NICE!
I share your bewilderment on the lack of cruise control from the Japanese in this segment. I just don't get it.
I think the weight on the bikes is wet weight also, the Suzuki has a bigger fuel tank so some of the weight is from fuel
I have the Wee 650 IMO it is a great bike fun to ride but on Hiway with wind guts the bike handle not as well because the weight , it is lighter than Honda AT . Now with this Heavier Vstrom it will be the ideal to go . We don’t do a lot of jumping off road so this may be the answer .
The Honda would be a great bike as well , this would come to reference choices . Cheers !
Thank you for the reviews , great job and well presented .
Thank you Tan!
Great rundown. Thanks.
Thanks WOW THAT'S AWESOME 👍✌️👌🎯👽
i owned both older models, so now i need to own these?
vstrom have 57.53 ft lbs 👌🏻still transalp have better torque to weight ratio but not as much as you show . for me vstrom be better choice but 22 kg more = draw .,biger weight can be advantage at end in long trip at straight highway with side winnd 👌🏻 but everywhere else literally is disadvantage 👌🏻 so yea if not this than vstrom cos have more torq and lower on rpm + dont have so high front fairing and tank in regard to seat etc 👌🏻 but those bikes are very close overal .
Doh! Yes you're right! I'm sure I double checked that because I hate getting these things wrong. I just did the conversion from Nm to ft-lb again using a different online converter and got the same 57 ft-lb result! The torque to weight conversion is now .080 instead of .070 with a 200 lb or 90 kg rider. Although it's peak torque figure would've just edged out the Transalp, this still puts it behind the Honda's .084 when it comes to to torque power to weight when including an average sized rider. Fortunately everything apart from the peak torque graph still holds in the video but I will not rely on random online converters from now on and stick to just using a proven formula. Thanks for picking this up!
XL750 Transalp available in Australia in June 2023 :-)
Nice!
Cool it's June now.
@@LTLT900 @L T Getting very close now!
Bikes are pretty similar.
At first I agreed with u that Honda would be the winner.
But people who will do significant off road and distance will appreciate the extra suspension and range of the Suzuki. HP and stuff. Probably not a big enough difference to notice. Or not big enough difference to matter. When u think adventure u think a bit off road and something with good distance and suspension.
Would think Kawasaki would be coming out with a bike like theses at some point. Put Cruse control on it and beat the other ones.
Yes! Kawasaki is likely to do that :)
McCruise are no doubt going to put C/C,as with Bart Factory on sealing rims,both not an issue,if it is,you just need to stop and look at yourself!
Definitely Transalp. Great review!!
Thanks Roger!
I Choose Transalp.
Honda Trasnsalp, for me.
Does anyone know how is the rear preload adjusted on the Honda? With that awful C wrench or like Suzuki with the knob? If you sometimes ride alone and sometimes with a pillion, it's one of the important things to have in mind. No one wants to fidle with that C wrenc in 2023.
Have to agree with you there. Give me an adjuster knob over the C wrench any day.
Nothing beats HONDA what so ever💪✌
Generally speaking Suzuki it's more capable and more versatile than Honda.
Agreed.
The only reason I am considering the TransAlp is nostalgia and stupid brand loyalty.
The power to weight ratio is also important for me considering I weigh 260lbs in socks and boxers.
The price in the US will ultimately be my deciding factor though.
@@marcochavane3124 Yeah it is true, i agree on Honda brand !
About the weight, yes it could be an issue, but i think weight on Suzuki it is well distributed, and it could be manageable!
@@bitterlifes that's a good point. Can't tell until we throw a leg over one ourselves but I'm optimistic.
Currently Daily a CRF300L Rally with CBR cams and velocity stack (and a few other cheap power mods) with high end adjustable suspension. It can handle all the off-road trails I've pointed it down and still run down the highways at 85mph after tinkering with the motor over a weekend.
Just want something that has more power for long distance rides on the interstate and touring dirt roads in the Rocky Mountains. If my wife wants to tag along a larger engine will be a must since we both weight quite a bit.
I think either would fit the bill well.
@@marcochavane3124 Midweight adv bike it is the best option for everything, fon any challenges: hiway, on/off road and so on...
You may like to ride both before making that judgement call. I did. Bought a TA.
Honda reliability for sure!
Not better than V Strom
Somebody is a honda fan boy
And Indian, and Harley, and Kawasaki, and Triumph, and Royal Enfield and...
Of course you would pick Honda, you ride one already...
for get more comments for make interaction, you said the opposite. ,:) nice tactic but we know you choose in reality Suzuki
Ktm 890adv 2023 😁
Neither..,BMW F800GS
Thanks!
Thanks John!
Nothing defines the offroad behavior more than the suspension. The Transalp can be more powerful and light on paper, but that unadjustable pogostick suspension will bottom out and get you off the saddle earlier than you might think. The suspension is also the main reason why people prefer an 890 over T7. Next level suspension gives you the next level of experience. So V-Strom for me please.
Yep. I think people spending more time off road may prefer the 800DE and people spending more time on-road (my case) may prefer the Transalp. But then I'd also prefer the agility of the Transalp for the kind of dirt roads I ride on... I think a test ride will be the only way to know if either bike is right for you.
KTM 890 is on another level than T7.
Both would be good bikes but the simple facts are for starters, that the Honda lacks the Suzuki's far superior fully adjustable and much longer travel suspension and better clearance. The extra weight of the V strom can be attributed to the better quality (heavier) suspension, standard bash plate, much stronger frame, quick shifter etc. The Suzuki's all new engine with it's twin balance shaft engine also adds to weight but undoubtedly it will be buttery smooth compared to the Honda. Add all the aforementioned Suzuki standard equipment to the Honda and it's weight would very similar to that of the Suzuki. Looks are subjective but IMHO the Honda without even a standard bashplate and fully exposed exhaust system looks cost cuttingly cheap and unfinished compared to the Suzuki. I have owned 4 Honda's and 3 Suzuki's and different other makes in my 45 years of riding so I cannot be accused of brand loyalty. Also, in my opinion, testing in the real world is needed rather than speculation on the paper performance figures before stating unequivocally one is quicker than the other. Even though I have a great deal of affection for Honda's I would at this time definitely take the Suzuki.
Agree. I love my vstrom but will wait till I try them. I must say I do trust Suzuki but annoyed it doesn’t have a cruise option!
The Suzuki produces 78Nm (57.5) torque, which makes sense with it having the slightly bigger engine.
V-Strom without a second thought.
I'd go for the Honda for its weight advantage. If I needed additional fuel capacity, I could get a frame mounted jerrry can. I must admit, I do like the tribute styling of the Honda that pays homage to the original 1986 Transalp.
Great presentation. I would go with the Honda Transalp, but will wait a couple years for them to add cruise control and truly test out this Unicam design. I do not mind a smaller fuel tank as I have a smaller tank as well:) and stop for breaks.
That might be a good move David
@@BikesILike Never buy a new model of any vehicle period, all these companies use the first X amount of customers to fully test/iron out any issues in the long run.
The Suzuki's quickshifter way better adjustable suspension, way better seat, low end torque gets my purchase. I'm also an original owner of the Honda 600 Transalp in the same red white and blue color scheme in 1989. Suspension and seat sucked then and looks like it still is.
I would not buy either one, I would buy the Suzuki V-Strom 650.. Longer wheel base, better fuel economy, more than adequate power. And not to mention a lot less money..
Well presented as always my friend. I would have to say no other channels come close to the way you present yours. We are definitely getting the Transalp next year and sooner than originally thought too.👍
Really!! That is great news! Thanks so much Tim, I appreciate that mate ;)
Are they coming to the US?
@@BikesILike the v strom 800de is have 57 FT-LB of torque not 50
Suzuki no doubt at all. With a tune that 800 will easily eclipse the 100hp mark. Piles of torque and the typical Suzuki bulletproof build reliability.
Good video but all speculation. In reality depending on gearing and a million other factors a less powerful bike can be quicker and/or more satisfying to ride. On paper is just that.
Yep spot on!
I would buy the updated re release 2023 KTM 790 Adventure. Better specs power, weight and maybe even price this time.
I sometimes cover 400-500 miles per day so, whichever has tubeless tires is my favorite. If neither, then I want neither. Both are expensive for what they are. Honda pretty much hiked the price of AT and inserted much cheaper to produce bike at old AT price. That is just evil. I'll keep riding what I have. (Xt250, cb500x, Super Ten, and Royal pain in the ars Classic 350.)
For a daily rider you can't beat the V-Strom's 37 liter panniers. That's basically $2,000 worth of added value. No brainer for me. Suzuki wins.
Here in Canada, the 800DE doesn't come with the panniers -- it's a C$1,467 option + C$775 for the mounts.
I didn't say anything about suzuki!! Because for me!! It's simply !! Cool !!
I today pay my new 800 DE - for my is absolutely winer. 1-in Transalp have better price but take naked motorcycle,only bike, nothing accessories. 2- all accessories in Honda cost unbelievable money - when you take price bike and money to accessories because ju not buy a adventure biek and not have bags and another in important travel orr off road thinks you have price super higher price and not rentable. 3-quickshifter is not included, must pay a lot but vstrom have at start bingooo💨. 4-vstrom It has more ground clearance, better design, adjustable plexiglass, a more comfortable seat, a wider swinging fork, higher torque, usb, protection of the lower part, protection of the hands and half the price of accessories and quickshifter in the base. 5 - A larger fuel tank of 20 liters and that is decisive for a touring motorcycle and that is simply a fact. Tubeless tires, Transalp has tubes in the tires and I can't imagine how I change tubes in the mountains among bears. 6-Accessories are cheaper and, above all, you don't have to buy them in sets and buy things that you don't want but would be more expensive separately. You can buy whatever you want at Suzuki and it's cheaper. 7 - Trunks - at Honda, only fabric ones where everyone fits in and they cost an awful lot, and they are only trunks and you have to wait for 3 sides. The Suzuki is metallic and in two colors, and that certainly applies to both the sides and the passenger. 8-Two balancing shafts that make for a perfectly smooth ride.I don't have that much time, but I would find more things why the winner is in the tree. Anyway, I wish everyone that his decision makes him as happy as mine makes me.✌🏻We will add photos from my adventures and reviews to my Instagram @motobulhar and Facebook page V-STROM 800 DE WOLD FAN PAGE
Wait. The Torque is much higher on the V-Strom 800DE with 57lb-ft than the Transalp with 55lb-ft. I would choose the same as you did if I'm just looking for comfort and extra power alone, however, with a standard quickshifter, skid plate, and fully adjustable suspension front/rear, I would choose the V-Strom because this is the one that has more off-road capable not to mention, the V-Strom can carry three aluminum paniers at the same time without worries. I think, the bolted subframe has the better advantage to an ADV bikes which V-Strom has and the Transalp has only integrated frame because it's easy to replace it if mishap(I won't wish that to happen to all of us) that won't require to replace the entire mainframe.
Doh! Yes you're right! I'm sure I double checked that because I hate getting these things wrong. I just did the conversion from Nm to ft-lb again using a different online converter and got the same 57 ft-lb result! The torque to weight conversion is now .080 instead of .070 with a 200 lb or 90 kg rider. Although it's peak torque figure would've just edged out the Transalp, this still puts it behind the Honda's .084 when it comes to to torque power to weight when including an average sized rider. Fortunately everything apart from the peak torque graph still holds in the video but I will not rely on random online converters from now on and stick to just using a proven formula. Thanks for picking this up!
2023 is shaping up to be a monumental year for motorcycling. There are so many good bikes coming out, and the general spec of these bikes has become quite good with TFT displays, and electronics suites that used to only be on high spec bikes. Kawasaki brought back the small inline 4... Lots of good feelings about 2023.
Totally agree!
Sweet Jesus, what a boring pair to even talk about. I rather doubt either eclipses the road manners of the Aprilia Tuareg 660 or the KTM 890R, and certainly neither eclipses the trail manners of those two.
The only reason to consider these bikes would be price. The V-strom 800DE is estimated to be right around $13k MSRP, and the Transalp is supposed to be around $10.5k... and with the Tuareg coming in at $12k it's just not even a contest for what you get in that bike.
The items quoted as positives for the Honda ergo seem to actually be disadvantage offroad.... e.g. sitting forward, etc. And you weren't able to address standing position. If you pick a bike because it's better on the road, what's the point of adventure bike.
At this size and price, nod goes to Suzuki for better suspension and torque lower in the rev range, as others posted. Seems like most reviewers reaction to the Transalp is.... meh. It should have been much better. Honda seems to be putting out very bland bikes with big names e.g. Transalp, Hornet, etc.
So no one including the presenter understand the relationship between power and torque.
Yeah if you're looking for a TED talk on the topic you're in the wrong location. :)
doesnt the gearing also come into play ,for me, it's how the power/torque are delivered at realistic road speeds 40 - 80 mph
@@lynmaitland9226Torque in engineering physics is a 'moment'. An instantaneous measure of turning force. You can create more 'torque' at the mounting point of a diving board by standing at the end of the board than a screaming big block V8, but unless it is constantly moving there is no power.
Power is torque x revs. Power is work done over time.
Any movement or acceleration is a result of power (torque x revs). The engineering physics definition of torque has been hijacked by those who have no better way of describing an engine that creates a lot of power at low revs. While it is idiomatically satisfying, it undermines the basic scientific understanding of what is actually going on.
@@sjbechet1111 like the springboard analogy, which also explains what I'm doing when I'm using a torque wrench. oooh, does that mean a gearbox allows you to 'find' the max power and any given road speed ... ??
Reliability niggles aside, the biggest issue is KTM’s 890 platform. More power then both, and the Norden 901 comes in at 218 kg wet, lower centre of gravity, and more ground clearance. It’s why I’m buying one.
Great technical review. Unlike many others. Thanks a lot. I was sort of undecided and had started leaning towards the Vstrom due to it's 20liter tank, more plush ride, wider seat, longer suspension. But now decided for the Transalp with its high rev needed engine (making it more fun to ride like a KTM, I currently own a 390ADV), more preferred brand (for Turkey anyway), a service in my city, slightly higher power (95hp in Turkey), and nostalgic better looks (I'm born in 1968 so more into oldies), and more road biased (I plan to do max 5% offroading). A close 2nd would have been the Tracer 7, if it wasn't for the worthless ground clearance (since I love opening throttle when I see speed bumps, and like street hooliganism by jumping on/off pavements, etc.
Definitely the suzuki . Didn't hear you mention the suspension adjustment . FULLY adjustable on the suzuki and not on the honda a massive advantage if you want to go off road . And the travel on the suzuki is 220mm front and rear another off road advantage. Also the larger fuel tank .is another plus .
That's in papers let's see in real life.
Fantastic comparison - thank you! That must have taken a lot of hard work!
The performance (bhp and torque figures) might only be realised when these bike are ridden back-to back. Styling-wise I prefer the Honda.
edit: If it's of any use, the price in the UK for the Transalp starts at £9499 GBP (in the white/red/blue colour scheme).
Thank you very much!
Honda and Suzuki have both lost the plot (and Yamaha to a lesser degree) these bikes are both so disappointing, really is this all they can do? Did Suzuki make that thing out of lead?
Thanks a lot for your informative video ...
Well... I just bought the Honda transalp 750, I'm waiting for the delivery 🚚
Nice! Would love to know what you think of the new Transalp when you get it!
Good stuff. 👍🏾I have to go V-Strom 800 DE here. I currently have a Kawasaki adventure tourer with non adjustable suspension and I don’t really want to go that route again.
I also think the weight difference is being overhyped. The V-Strom mostly just carries more fuel from what I see. Once you start upgrading things on either the weight should be completely manageable so long as they aren’t top heavy. No review I have seen of either bike thus far has included complaints about how the weight has impacted handling or the ride experience so I wouldn’t spend too much time overthinking that as a factor.
That leaves me with price. No way am I paying more for a bike with worse suspension and a smaller and cheaper looking TFT, etc. I am just not into it, so the Suzuki would be my choice in the end. I would take the money I saved and put it towards upgrading the exhaust, tires, protection. and windscreen, and then just enjoy it.
I think the Taureg 660 is another similarly priced option worth considering too. I prefer Japanese bikes though, so I probably would go with the Suzuki over that as well.
All are great options. Just be honest with yourself about what features matter most to you. All of them seem like they are blast out on the open road and trails. Now, if I can get my grubby little hands on one soon. 😂
the V-strom 800de has 57 FT-LB of torque not 50 !!
T 700 OR V STORM 800 OR TUARENG 660 OR TRANSLAP 750??? IN THIS IM THING ...WAT IS THE BEST COICE????HELP ME MEN ....
A good comparision video but pure specs.
Until somenone rides both bikes is just paper stuff.
On paper the Vstrom is a way better overall package, but until I ride both there si no sense to give a solid opinion.
I would choose Suzuki.
I think the suspension differences would favor Suzuki if you were off road inclined. I'll be interested in seeing how long it takes Rocket Man to fall out of love with his Transalp when he gets it😄😄
If he still loves after a year then it's probably a winner. How does the ergonomics of the TransAlp compared to your Honda?
If I could get a Honda CT125 I'd have that for off road and keep my Tiger 900 for everything else.
Lol. Yes RM is going to be the barometer for Transalp viability. Very much looking forward to seeing how that goes. :)
The extra suspension travel would be a blessing even for on road comfort but the cupped shape of the seat is really putting me off, I reckon it's going to lock you into one position. The Honda's seat looks flatter and more accommodating to me, will have to be better for longer rides. I think it all depends on how you plan to ride these two bikes.
Honda said they were dropping the CT125 here but I still see it for sale on the Honda Australia website... interesting. motorcycles.honda.com.au/models/onroad/scooter/ct125
No cruise control as even an option....that is why I won't be purchasing either.
Nice comparison. What struck me is that both the bikes have longer suspension travel than the supposedly more offroad oriented T700.
Also when they unveiled them with no CC and tubed tires I instantly ordered Tuareg 660 :)
Ride them first and come back!!
Seeing the transalp for sale in America at $9999. Everywhere
Cool video. With a lot of info. Somehow very similar, but in the same time very different bikes. In this case I would go for the Honda because I find it aesthetically more attractive. By the way... I am not into ADV bikes. :) You got my like.
Thanks Gregor!
Both of them are not pretty bikes and far too much cosmetic starwars body work.
well..I owned both bikes...Started with the Transalp...based exactly on facts and figures...but then...after 8 moths, I tried the Suzuki...and this was
mind blowing experience...forget the figures: the Suzuki is way more exciting...while the Honda is actually sooo boring..I have lost tons of money reselling my Honda to buy the Suzuki, but have never ever regretted it...go for a ride on both..make your own religion...in my case: Suzuki is nearly perfect!
Thanks for sharing your valuable first-hand experience!
@@BikesILike thanks for your open comment. One point which I didn't mention though: the Honda is way more...comfortable. Wind protection, shock absorber and super comfy saddle make this bike a very nice tool to travel...if only the motor was more exciting!
Fist time viewer. Outstanding breakdown of both bikes. Fantastic and concise. I personally am in the market for a mid range ADV bike and feel Honda will miss a lot of sales here in the US since the Aprillia Tuareg and V Strom 800DE are available here and will take a big chunk out of that potential market. The Tuareg is getting the nod so far. With its performance and features like Cruiser Control it will be a winner on longer trips in this country with long stretches of highway between destinations. I am a Honda guy and daily a CRF300L Rally but need more power for those pavement miles.
Thank you Marco!
Why on earth is everyone so concerned with cruise control???? Definitely the vsrom over the Honda!! The Honda is just a road bike
Because many people use these motorcycles for touring and find cruise control so useful.
I would have to ride them both first. Otherwise whats the point
Thank you ! But for me it´s Norden !
It´s personnel , please what do you think ? I ´m in France
The Norden is a very nice bike. The only question for me would be long term reliability.
I think the differences are so close that one cannot and should not arrive to any conclusions based on those arbitrary comparisons.
Yes, true
I have the nc750x and all day long I would go for the Honda Transalp . Looking forward to test driving it when it is released here in the UK 🇬🇧
Love your content keep up the good work mate 👍 👏 👌 🏍
Thanks GreenPython!
Great vid. And helpful in my future decision. However, I was not really considering the Suzuki anyway. It’s between the tenere and the transalp. I suspect the actual ride comparison, as well as the specifics will decide.
Thanks Simon! For sure, at the end of the day a test ride really is the best way to go... If that's possible where you live.
Didn't ride either. I can do a comparison, on paper.
A point a friend of mine made is that those new suzuki headlights are just going to get crammed with bugs and be a real nightmare to clean
Not harder than any other glass surface.
Until you can throw a leg over the bikes and test them in the real world, it's just guess work.
I wouldn't buy either of these. Duds
The cruise control question makes TONS of sense if you are Honda. Honda sells bikes but they make money hand over fist on that giant bus of a motorcycle called a Goldwing. Now, the transalp is a rubbish offroad bike but IF it could be made comfy and IF it could carry some luggage, which it will, it has the potential to overlap into some markets Honda really has no desire for it to. If I am walking into a Honda dealership looking for a travel bike like a gold wing and I see a 11k 12k out the door Transalp with 90HP and cruise control and I'm frugal and get the soft aftermarket panniers on the cheap...they just lost a 25-30k Goldwing sale. They have no desire for that to ever happen.
Suzuki, having no foot hold in the touring market, is a bit more perplexing. But I always say never assume evil when incompetence is a potential. If I'm buying a Suzuki, I'm going straight to the DRZ-400 and giving the 7k for it and then throwing the 4k I saved from a VStrom into a bigbore kit and every aftermarket bell and whistle I want. Will it be a little less horsepower? sure, but it'll have a higher resale value for longer and more aftermarket than you can throw at it on a PROVEN platform instead of the V-strom with its new motor.
The transalp is a honda nc 750 dressed up
I'm super a super Honda fan!! But this time I feel a little disapointing! For me the new transalp looks too street bike and less true adventure bike!! It's kind to bike a bigger CB500x!! Anyway that's why I don't sale my old ktm 950 super enduro and my KTM 1290 super adv. 'R' 2018!! Hehehe!! Honda should build a XR 700 or 800 "R" for true adventures!!
Honda better. Power and weight ratio.
The Suzuki is way too heavy, and the Transalp is uninspiring...I would buy a second hand Africa Twin.
Besides, i think the new Honda engine suits better the Hornet than the Transalp.
I would like the vstrom if it weighed 40 or 50 pounds less. It weighs as much as a standard africa twin, which is superior in power and features, so it doesnt really make sense to buy the vstrom unless you simply cannot get approved for the higher cost on the africa twin.
Til we have real test units, it's gonna be a hard decision, especially on power. As a CRF1100 owner, I can attest that the Honda power units can be fantastic, I'm slightly surprised the Suzuki fails to produce power figures as high as the honda, when and where is key so we'll see. I'm a suzuki man at heart but do enjoy riding my CRF1100 and 22' CB500X a great deal, but, I'm pulling for the Zuki. I like the extra wheel travel on the Suzuki and the removable subframe, 17" on the rear is fine, you'll be spending more time on the tarmac anyways on such a bike.
By Golly, I'll take the Honda. So, the Honda has more power, this is a big change from the past. Cool thanks
For me, the transalp
Nice review and the triangle explained in very nice way..i like both...i agree with u..i prefer it mostly i do city highway rides mostly
Would have been a good opportunity for Suzuki to have changed the name to something other than Vstrom.
как говорится - всё познаётся в сравнении и чтобы сделать правильный выбор, надо самому всё испытать, а не только полагаться на технические характеристики, что ж, время покажет и всё само расставит по местам.
Thank you for the review, it was informative.
Thank you Probel!
@@BikesILike In any case, thanks to you, we learned new things about Honda and Suzuki.
Thank you very much, I wish you health and longevity.
@@alt13658 Thank you Probel, I wish you the same.
Did you actual ride those bikes?
Not possible, haven't been released in Australia yet.
I'd prefer ergonomics, performance, and ease of servicing+maintenance as standards.
Honda!!
👍
I will go to honda.. However when the transalp upgraded with the Dct.. Otherwise i will stay with my current 650 transalp or move to Africa with the dct
It is interesting that DCT is not available on this bike. It does appear the plan is to make the Transalp and Hornet as budget friendly as possible.