I just don't get why they "can't". The metal formulas either still exist or can be reverse-engineered, and companies exist that can make ingots with exact mixes of metals. Machines exist to measure nibs to the micron, and wire EDM machines to make forging dies to the same precision. If money is the issue, I argue that companies make zillion $ pens so surely they can make zillion-and-50 dollar pens.
Lovely writing sample wonderful pen. I hope you grow to love it. I’ve got the smaller Omas 361, where the nib rotates from hard fine to Flexi. A little like the Pilot Justus but with only 2 positions. The flex option is fantastic a brilliant flex nib. . I’m almost certainly buying an Omas Stenographie left foot oblique flex pen on Sunday.from a friend. I only have 3 Italian pens all wonderful and maybe one more. Great choice Doodle Bud, BTW the Santini Italia is fantastic. Great video, catch ya next time D
fantastic - thanks for sharing. Love modern pens, but am a little hesitant to get into vintage... seems like a deep rabbithole that I know nothing about, but I love the flex you were showing in this Omas. Thanks again for sharing your journey!
This is one of my absolute favorite pens. The flex is so remarkable and it feels nice in the hand too. I do. Great find, I hope it stays in your collection because they really don’t make them like this anymore!
I was only 50 seconds in when I just had to go the tenpen web site to see if they have an Omas Emotica. I have an Emotica in black that I picked up sometime after the pen debuted. I never see Emoticas online, or in reviews. I had no idea it would be such a rare pen to see in the wild. I love the medium Omas nib in titanium. It has lots of bounce and is considered semi-flexible. I really like the pen you picked. I think I will always have a love of Omas as it seemed like they were on the pinnacle of Italian design. 😄🖖 Came back to talk about materials. As you know, our modern plastics, called thermoplastics, are melted and injected into molds. Hollows are made with a male / female mold set with a space in between representing the part. With celluloid, it is made from wood pulp and some chemistry. The raw celluloid is molded into flat sheets and rolled into shape. Solvents in the mix both adhere the ends, or scarf joint, and makes the tube continuous. Sheets can be cut into strips, then adhered together with a soft form of celluloid in a contrasting color to make the Arco style of pen body. The interesting thing about celluloid is its history in the film industry of the past. Celluloid is a meta-stable material and will easily catch fire and burn hot. Lots of film reels turned into flammable goo before more stable formulations were concocted. The process of making new celluloid is still dangerous, but is rigorously tracked by modern lab safety standards, so accidents are rare. Awesome food for thought here. 👍
1.Whoa, what a great nib you got there. 2. I would be fascinated to hear what DoodleEngineer believes/speculates about why modern flex nibs can't/won't be made like vintage.
I would be a little reluctant to give my thoughts on it since I dont know much about the old or new when it comes to manufacturing processes. I do have some thoughts but I think an expert in the area would be much better to give input. I'm thinking of doing a video with a nib meister at some point where that would be a good thing to bring up with someone who really knows nibs!
@@Doodlebud the beauty of this kind of nibs is their special feedback...the omas nibs have feedback but they are not scratchy, they sing on the paper. If you want a butter nib there are lot of choices (pelikan etc..). Just my two cents
@@OzneOllen I found some really buttery vintage nib handmade by the japanese nibmeister Ginjiro Kabutogi, they write spectacularly and have some spring to it.
Congrats on your OMAS pen it is really quite a writer, there seems to be magic involved in those vintage pens that some how we can not get in modern pens... How about unraveling some of the secrets? There is an analytical chemistry technique called XRF which is non destructive which can tell us the exact type of alloy (down to metal composition and percentage) it would be interesting to perform an analysis if possible
A lovely pen; pity about the price. All the same, it's the right size and expertly made. But that nib--Oh, my! What wonderful snap, hard to think of a comparable nib anywhere, any time. A lovely find, and I hope it gives you much pleasure in years to come. Cheerio from Kangaroo Flat, Bruce. (Kangaroo Flat is so-called because of the road kill problem.)
The flex is one thing, but the snap back is another which really makes the writing experience! Don't have any issues dodging 'roos up here, but that can happen with deer!
Very beautiful pen and wonderful writing samples. I don't have a vintage pen yet, but I'm hoping the Good Blue R615 is close enough for me. (I know it's brand new, but it has a vintage look when capped and a flex nib.)
The R615 is a great pen, my favorite is the untipped nib which gives great line variation. But there's still nothing better than these old vintage pens with a flex nib. They are so natural to write with and tuned just right. Similar to old mechanical equipment/machinery which was designed wonderfully and just never fails.
@@Doodlebud guess I need to save up for a vintage pen after all! I'm heading to a pen show in Arkansas next month. Wonder if anyone there will have an inked up vintage pen I can try. 🤔
Man what a beauty of italian pen. Got myself a couple of vintage Eversharp Skylines and Watermans, but need better practice to know what flex really is
@@Doodlebud Nice. My waterman 52 I suspect was altered at some point, ground to a strange italic/stub, the 52v had a broken barrel, hard to fix the hard rubber. One skyline is nail like, and the others are softer
The moment I saw the title I knew exactly where you got the pen from. I have bought a couple of OMAS', OMASes????? from her. Check her blog, as there must be some information about the Lucens. I'm a bit surprized that you might not keep the pen. An OMAS should be in every pen collection if one can afford it. I, as many, many others really mourn the loss of OMAS. If you have any questions on the ASC Triangolo, I purchased it last year. I just had to get a 360 (though not an exact 360) in arco verde, rational be damned.
The pen works well just not sure if I'm crazy about it yet, time will tell. I've seen the ASC triangolo but I think if I really want a 360, I'll have to save up for a LONG time & get the real deal. I don't like how the rounded the section on THE ASC version
Yes the rounded section, though is tapers to a rounded triangle as you move up the section. So it goes from a circle to a triangle which is quite interesting. The 360 is very comfortable, unlike the Safari which I despise. I love the 360, but I don't think they made it in ArcoVerde, so like I wrote rational be damned. The Triangolo is a larger pen than the 360 Vintage though, and heavier since it has the brass compression filling system. If you're into flex it'll be hard to find one better than that, unless you find a vintage Waterman.
Hey DOODLE poodle, serious question if you would, Are there more reliable bladders than others? I'm not really asking about clear plastic ones versus black rubber ones. I'm asking about black rubber ones vs black rubber ones. Reason- my Conklin brass crescent filler isn't all that bounce-backy\sucky I was wondering bout that daddy.
That's not an area I'm very familiar with. Have only resaced a couple of pens. Maybe have a look at Grandmia's channel or some sites that sell vintage pen sacs
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Classic style is eternal
The transition from “some things you just get and you just enjoy”- to “looking online I came across this patent” got me lmao
I can't stop.... Even when I try to just enjoy something for what it is.... I must think about how it was made & how it works! I can't turn it off! 🤯
Vintage flexes are fun - wish they will still build nibs like that.
I just don't get why they "can't". The metal formulas either still exist or can be reverse-engineered, and companies exist that can make ingots with exact mixes of metals. Machines exist to measure nibs to the micron, and wire EDM machines to make forging dies to the same precision. If money is the issue, I argue that companies make zillion $ pens so surely they can make zillion-and-50 dollar pens.
I did not know I needed one of these until today.
LOL, my apologies to your wallet 💸💸💸
There’s an elegance to these vintage pens that’s unsurpassed
Beautiful pen, fantastic handwriting!
These pens really give writing a boost!
Your handwriting is phenomenal!
It's come a long way since I started my chanel!
Lovely writing sample wonderful pen. I hope you grow to love it. I’ve got the smaller Omas 361, where the nib rotates from hard fine to Flexi. A little like the Pilot Justus but with only 2 positions. The flex option is fantastic a brilliant flex nib. . I’m almost certainly buying an Omas Stenographie left foot oblique flex pen on Sunday.from a friend. I only have 3 Italian pens all wonderful and maybe one more. Great choice Doodle Bud, BTW the Santini Italia is fantastic. Great video, catch ya next time D
I was not here for Omas. This may be a fun pen to have. TY
fantastic - thanks for sharing. Love modern pens, but am a little hesitant to get into vintage... seems like a deep rabbithole that I know nothing about, but I love the flex you were showing in this Omas. Thanks again for sharing your journey!
Vintage is a whole other world, but a wonderful one at that. So many gems to find!
This is one of my absolute favorite pens. The flex is so remarkable and it feels nice in the hand too. I do. Great find, I hope it stays in your collection because they really don’t make them like this anymore!
Its a lovely pen! So natural to write with and never fails to lay down ink on the page
I was only 50 seconds in when I just had to go the tenpen web site to see if they have an Omas Emotica. I have an Emotica in black that I picked up sometime after the pen debuted. I never see Emoticas online, or in reviews. I had no idea it would be such a rare pen to see in the wild. I love the medium Omas nib in titanium. It has lots of bounce and is considered semi-flexible.
I really like the pen you picked. I think I will always have a love of Omas as it seemed like they were on the pinnacle of Italian design. 😄🖖
Came back to talk about materials. As you know, our modern plastics, called thermoplastics, are melted and injected into molds. Hollows are made with a male / female mold set with a space in between representing the part.
With celluloid, it is made from wood pulp and some chemistry. The raw celluloid is molded into flat sheets and rolled into shape. Solvents in the mix both adhere the ends, or scarf joint, and makes the tube continuous. Sheets can be cut into strips, then adhered together with a soft form of celluloid in a contrasting color to make the Arco style of pen body.
The interesting thing about celluloid is its history in the film industry of the past. Celluloid is a meta-stable material and will easily catch fire and burn hot. Lots of film reels turned into flammable goo before more stable formulations were concocted. The process of making new celluloid is still dangerous, but is rigorously tracked by modern lab safety standards, so accidents are rare. Awesome food for thought here. 👍
Thanks for the extra info about the celluloid!
I love a black pen with gold trim. That's a beauty!
Damn PEI! Never been out that way yet! Black & gold is classic & classy. Wanted a flashier pattern but those ones cost a bit too much for me 💸💸💸
What a lovely pen‼️
This is the best Italian vintage nib. Congratulations, Omas is one of my favorite brands, I am also delighted with reviews in Italian.
Watching them in Italian and hearing the proper pronunciations is fantastic!
1.Whoa, what a great nib you got there.
2. I would be fascinated to hear what DoodleEngineer believes/speculates about why modern flex nibs can't/won't be made like vintage.
I would be a little reluctant to give my thoughts on it since I dont know much about the old or new when it comes to manufacturing processes. I do have some thoughts but I think an expert in the area would be much better to give input. I'm thinking of doing a video with a nib meister at some point where that would be a good thing to bring up with someone who really knows nibs!
Here comes 6000 subs! Congrats doodlebud on the fast growth!
Inch by inch... most importantly I'm having fun!
Beautiful writing indeed! I am not sure I can write that well with any pen, even such a marvelous one! Thank you for the review. K
I got this exact pen from Letizia as well. Had to smooth it on a 12000 sheet, jut after that it writes like butter with an amazing flex
I was debating on giving it a quick polish on my 12K as well. Wasnt sure if that would impact the re-sell value or anything.
@@Doodlebud my two omas works so flawlessly that I never thought about reselling 🤣
@@Doodlebud the beauty of this kind of nibs is their special feedback...the omas nibs have feedback but they are not scratchy, they sing on the paper. If you want a butter nib there are lot of choices (pelikan etc..). Just my two cents
Yeah it is a different feel. Makes some oldly satisfying squeaks
@@OzneOllen I found some really buttery vintage nib handmade by the japanese nibmeister Ginjiro Kabutogi, they write spectacularly and have some spring to it.
Congrats on your OMAS pen it is really quite a writer, there seems to be magic involved in those vintage pens that some how we can not get in modern pens... How about unraveling some of the secrets? There is an analytical chemistry technique called XRF which is non destructive which can tell us the exact type of alloy (down to metal composition and percentage) it would be interesting to perform an analysis if possible
An XRF analyzer is super cool, but extremely expensive! A beyond the shoestring budget I have for this channel 😉
A lovely pen; pity about the price. All the same, it's the right size and expertly made. But that nib--Oh, my! What wonderful snap, hard to think of a comparable nib anywhere, any time. A lovely find, and I hope it gives you much pleasure in years to come. Cheerio from Kangaroo Flat, Bruce. (Kangaroo Flat is so-called because of the road kill problem.)
The flex is one thing, but the snap back is another which really makes the writing experience! Don't have any issues dodging 'roos up here, but that can happen with deer!
That’s a lovely pen! Hope you get a lot of use out of it! :)
Its a great writer!
Very beautiful pen and wonderful writing samples. I don't have a vintage pen yet, but I'm hoping the Good Blue R615 is close enough for me. (I know it's brand new, but it has a vintage look when capped and a flex nib.)
The R615 is a great pen, my favorite is the untipped nib which gives great line variation. But there's still nothing better than these old vintage pens with a flex nib. They are so natural to write with and tuned just right. Similar to old mechanical equipment/machinery which was designed wonderfully and just never fails.
@@Doodlebud guess I need to save up for a vintage pen after all! I'm heading to a pen show in Arkansas next month. Wonder if anyone there will have an inked up vintage pen I can try. 🤔
Man what a beauty of italian pen. Got myself a couple of vintage Eversharp Skylines and Watermans, but need better practice to know what flex really is
Skyline and a vintage waterman are on my list! I was told the best vintage flex nibs are watermans
@@Doodlebud Nice. My waterman 52 I suspect was altered at some point, ground to a strange italic/stub, the 52v had a broken barrel, hard to fix the hard rubber. One skyline is nail like, and the others are softer
@@Doodlebud You would be correct sir! The Waterman vintage nibs are beloved.
The moment I saw the title I knew exactly where you got the pen from. I have bought a couple of OMAS', OMASes????? from her. Check her blog, as there must be some information about the Lucens.
I'm a bit surprized that you might not keep the pen. An OMAS should be in every pen collection if one can afford it. I, as many, many others really mourn the loss of OMAS.
If you have any questions on the ASC Triangolo, I purchased it last year. I just had to get a 360 (though not an exact 360) in arco verde, rational be damned.
The pen works well just not sure if I'm crazy about it yet, time will tell. I've seen the ASC triangolo but I think if I really want a 360, I'll have to save up for a LONG time & get the real deal. I don't like how the rounded the section on THE ASC version
Yes the rounded section, though is tapers to a rounded triangle as you move up the section. So it goes from a circle to a triangle which is quite interesting. The 360 is very comfortable, unlike the Safari which I despise. I love the 360, but I don't think they made it in ArcoVerde, so like I wrote rational be damned. The Triangolo is a larger pen than the 360 Vintage though, and heavier since it has the brass compression filling system.
If you're into flex it'll be hard to find one better than that, unless you find a vintage Waterman.
decagon is 10, dodecagon is 12 i think.
And 11 sided is hendeca
I am not going to go crazy engineering on it... So, anyway, here is this 1920's patent on the making of celluloid items. lol
Exactly, that was just a little "engineery"
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Hey DOODLE poodle, serious question if you would,
Are there more reliable bladders than others?
I'm not really asking about clear plastic ones versus black rubber ones.
I'm asking about black rubber ones vs black rubber ones.
Reason- my Conklin brass crescent filler isn't all that bounce-backy\sucky
I was wondering bout that daddy.
That's not an area I'm very familiar with. Have only resaced a couple of pens. Maybe have a look at Grandmia's channel or some sites that sell vintage pen sacs
It may look a little plain and simple but who cares. When you can get those results from that nib, it is one puppy I wouldn't think of on selling.
Its a very solid performer
Hey , what is your grail !!
Guess I've learned that a "grail pen" is sort of a moving target. More like an idea than an actual physical item.
Omas celluloid pens were not moulded, they were drilled and machined by hand from rod stock.
Doodle!
Michael!