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  • Lecture 09: The application of Unit Quaternions to rotations

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  • @lopezb
    @lopezb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Beautiful lecture, thanks! Just the right amount of detail.
    Quaternions were invented by William Rowan Hamilton (also invented Hamiltonian Mechanics) in 1843. Heisenberg was one of the fathers of Quantum Mechanics in 1925.

    • @KaiseruSoze
      @KaiseruSoze 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was going to point this out too. But I was betting someone else spotted the error. TY.

    • @joaogonzalez4082
      @joaogonzalez4082 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep, I was going to state that also. But Gibbs did simplified its math to vector algebra as we know today 😏

    • @gokceyildirim8161
      @gokceyildirim8161 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Heisenberg might have invented octonions to explain particle spins for quantum mechanics

  • @calmsh0t
    @calmsh0t 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Praise the age of digitalization. I can get all the knowledge I want from great sources and don't need to rely on local professors who can't explain even the simplest thing, plus I can filter out the stuff that university would want me to know but I never need for what I want to do. What a time to be alive!!

  • @JackLe1127
    @JackLe1127 8 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    best part about watching youtube lectures is that you gain the knowledge but you don't have to do the homework

    • @karz12
      @karz12 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      You can't gain the knowledge without doing the homework.

    • @ZeusLT
      @ZeusLT 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      why not

    • @johnjackson9767
      @johnjackson9767 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +karz12 Word.

    • @s.u.5285
      @s.u.5285 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      i prefer saying..best thing about you-tube college learning is you gain the knowledge without having to pay for it.

    • @That_One_Guy...
      @That_One_Guy... 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Advantage of online learning :
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      3.Sometimes a much clearer explanation than your lecturer tried way too hard to explain (for math i loved this so much)
      4. Need just a waaay shorter time time than the boring and weekly long explained things in your college
      5. Free of cost
      6.Never get left behind because of the bullshit limited amount time (see point 4)
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      Why does offline learning isn't removed yet sigh. For anyone complaining about social interaction for same age, i ask you how does people in the past (where school isnt even exist yet) interact with each other ?

  • @DellHell1
    @DellHell1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    He said Heisenberg because he wasn't certain who it was. But when he stood still he became certain it was Hamilton.

    • @takshashila2995
      @takshashila2995 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Uncertainity principle.

    • @gavtriple9
      @gavtriple9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Takshashila underrated comment

  • @dendrogenhs
    @dendrogenhs 7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    This lecture skips details, and the presenter does mistakes, but he really gets the intuition: this is the easiest to understand video about quaternions I ve found so far...

  • @realdeal968
    @realdeal968 7 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I watched countless videos on quaternions and this one is the best by far.

  • @michaell685
    @michaell685 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Per Wikipedia, not Heisenberg (1937-1976) but Rodriguez & Hamilton in the 1840s developed Quaternions. Hamilton was its great advocate.
    " Quaternions and their applications to rotations were first described in print by Olinde Rodrigues in all but name in 1840,[1] but independently discovered by Irish mathematician Sir William Rowan Hamilton in 1843 and applied to mechanics in three-dimensional space. They find uses in both theoretical and applied mathematics, in particular for calculations involving three-dimensional rotations."

  • @JA-yi8bs
    @JA-yi8bs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A concept I was not taught at University and now faced with in my research. Your explanation has been so helpful for my understanding - thank you!

  • @APaleDot
    @APaleDot 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    26:40
    He says the quaternion ( cosθ, sinθ v ) represents a rotation by angle θ, but it actually represents a rotation by angle 2θ.
    The reason: when doing a rotation, you do a "sandwich" product to prevent the vector from being pushed into 4D space, u' = q u q^-1 which applies the quaternion twice, resulting in a rotation by 2θ.

    • @zdspider6778
      @zdspider6778 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, that's what I thought!
      It should be: _(cos(θ/2), sin(θ/2) * v)_
      And he didn't explain the "sandwich" part... At least I don't think he did. And there's no "part 2".

  • @LibrawLou
    @LibrawLou 9 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    Excellent introduction via rotations, but the discoverer was Hamilton, not Heisenberg.

    • @LibrawLou
      @LibrawLou 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pharap Sama
      History otta' at least be in the right century...however fascinating the math...

    • @dlwatib
      @dlwatib 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +Lou Puls He at least remembered that it was a long name beginning with H. But is it so difficult to remember that it was an Irish mathematician in the 1800s and not a German physicist in the 1900s?

    • @gfetco
      @gfetco 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Lou Puls Say my name!

    • @morgengabe1
      @morgengabe1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yourre mothers would all b so proud

    • @ahmedgaafar5369
      @ahmedgaafar5369 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      i agree too.

  • @englishforfunandcompetitio248
    @englishforfunandcompetitio248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Aside from mistakes in mentioning History, the intuitive approach he has applied for teaching the subject, is better than many others on the TH-cam.

  • @yunhyeokchoi2004
    @yunhyeokchoi2004 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    8:36 humanity restored

  • @mikedavid5071
    @mikedavid5071 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a great intuitive introduction to Quaternions. Knowing who invented quaternions gets you nowhere in understanding quaternions. Knowing the name means nothing. Knowing how to use them and forging new fields where they have practical use is quite useful.

  • @AlfredEssa
    @AlfredEssa 8 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    Hamilton, not Heisenberg.

    • @random_guy6608
      @random_guy6608 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Idiot hamilton thinking about quaternions on his way to Party

    • @robrick9361
      @robrick9361 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I heard Hamilton used his knowledge of Quaternions to become a drug kingpin.
      I AM THE ONE WHO EXTENDS COMPLEX NUMBERS!

    • @JimAllen-Persona
      @JimAllen-Persona 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Guess he was uncertain 😂. Another Newtonian or Gaussian type legend (Gauss’ solution to the parallel postulate). As bad as that joke is, this is my first exposure to these... very interesting.

    • @abenedict85
      @abenedict85 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@random_guy6608 show some respect for your intellectual masters

    • @That_One_Guy...
      @That_One_Guy... 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So that's why electrons location are uncertain, because they're 4d beings

  • @slickwillie3376
    @slickwillie3376 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They were first described by Irish mathematician William Rowan Hamilton in 1843 and applied to mechanics in three-dimensional space.

  • @onetwoBias
    @onetwoBias 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Excellent lesson! :) Impressive that he managed to make this comprehensible to someone with only a basic understanding of vector math in three dimensions, who has never heard of quaternions. (me)

  • @ksbalaji1287
    @ksbalaji1287 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the first time, I am beginning to understand Quaternions. Thanks, Prof!

  • @baruchba7503
    @baruchba7503 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best explanation of quaternions I've heard. Thank you.

  • @andyeverett1957
    @andyeverett1957 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Much about quaternions just fell into place with your lecture, thanks.

  • @emmanuelmorales5332
    @emmanuelmorales5332 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    You Sir rock! After too much trying, I think I understand attitude quaternions at last!

  • @shivanshiverma8025
    @shivanshiverma8025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for explaining with such an elegancy, sir! I've been stuck on this topic for a long time now, and finally you made me understand it 😁😁

  • @yiyangtang3622
    @yiyangtang3622 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is an clear explanation about quarernions, thanks a lot

  • @vwcanter
    @vwcanter ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a valuable introduction, for people like me, who need to get started on these.

  • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
    @lawrencedoliveiro9104 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Another useful feature of quaternions is that they interpolate very nicely, which is useful for animations.
    Say you have two orientations of an armature bone in your character. Each orientation can be represented by a quaternion. If these are keyframes, then the animation software can interpolate the intermediate orientations by interpolating the quaternions. This automatically gives you a uniform movement along the great circle connecting the two orientation points.
    If you were trying to interpolate Euler angles, then you would not (in general) get movement along a great circle. I think the actual curve might be a loxodrome (I’m not sure). In any case, it won’t look nice.

  • @DrMerle-gw4wj
    @DrMerle-gw4wj 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Quaternions were created by William Hamilton, not Heisenberg. No doubt someone has already added this in the comments.

  • @cyborgbeingadroidthinklike5737
    @cyborgbeingadroidthinklike5737 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    His attitude of teaching shows that he is very much conscious about his topics

  • @thejking
    @thejking 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally I get it! Very very good lecture!

  • @mattwolf2887
    @mattwolf2887 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really great lecture. Thanks :D

  • @benmansourmahdi9097
    @benmansourmahdi9097 ปีที่แล้ว

    professor i owe you for ever

  • @piotrlenarczyk5803
    @piotrlenarczyk5803 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great and impresive: Keep It Super Simple:)

  • @bsergean
    @bsergean 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great presentation

  • @SowmyanarayananP
    @SowmyanarayananP 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great! Thank you so much!

  • @JohnCena963852
    @JohnCena963852 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    May not be perfect for some details, but definitely the best clarify of quaternion. Thank you sir.
    btw, does anyone know which OCW does this lecture belong to?

  • @johntessin6398
    @johntessin6398 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    William Rowan Hamilton invented ( discovered ) them. There is a wonderful neighborhood in the area called South Park in San Diego called Hamiltons that specializes in micro brews. I find a twisted satisfaction in that for some reason.

  • @pavelperina7629
    @pavelperina7629 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    34:00 please always remember original matrix, construct quaternion from original mouse position to the current one, construct quaternion (i guess there should be phi/2, but i'm not sure) and the convert it to model matrix. On mouse release store that model matrix. Otherwise they will be ugly artifacts caused by sampling of mouse coodinates and I guess rounding errors as well.
    PS: i have to find how to convert quaternion into 4x4 matrix, because it would be nice to visualize that in some projections. I always found q^bar * v * q as 3x3 matrix

  • @miltonlai4850
    @miltonlai4850 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Easy to understand, very good explanation.

  • @GeForece6200
    @GeForece6200 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really really good lecture!!

  • @NoisySoundFilms
    @NoisySoundFilms 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    is there a second part of this lecture? i would like to a real application of how to move objects on 3D space. By the way! it has been a very great time seeing this lecture!

  • @OlivierGeorg
    @OlivierGeorg ปีที่แล้ว

    Good basic but approximative and incomplete explaination, which pushed me to search for more information:
    1) Rotation by \phi around \vec(v) is given by q = (cos(\phi/2), sin(\phi/2) \vec(v))
    2) A position vector can be represented by p = (0, \vec(x,y,z))
    3) Rotation of p by q is given by quaternion operation p' = q * p * q^(-1). That operation is said to be computationaly cheaper than using matrices.

  • @TheSemgold
    @TheSemgold 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's interesting to know about quaternions analysis.

  • @stevel9678
    @stevel9678 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quaternions were invented by Alexander Hamilton. Heisenberg was the meth kingpin on Breaking Bad. Glad I could straighten that out.

  • @TheLazyKey
    @TheLazyKey 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video on quaternions. I still don't quite understand them fully. But I'm sure applying them practically will help me fill in the gaps.

  • @liamcjbeistle3274
    @liamcjbeistle3274 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    William Rowan Hamilton used for navigation gimbals, simulation motion platforms etc

  • @ogunfidodoadekunle2807
    @ogunfidodoadekunle2807 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find quaternions applicable to statistics,also find useful the idea of (cosx+sinx.v) where v is a unit vector.

  • @MykelGloober
    @MykelGloober 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    So is the V value equal to the pitch, yaw, and roll? Or is that just the vector value? Can anyone point me to a lecture that talks about vector math?

  • @johnhefele5432
    @johnhefele5432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone have these notes that the lecturer keeps referring to? If so, could you kindly share them?

  • @lunchen7985
    @lunchen7985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    28:00 is the punch line if you're here wondering how quaternions can be used for rotations and for solving gimbal lock

  • @the_nuwarrior
    @the_nuwarrior 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ¿it can be generalizated to a 2^n- dimentional object?, ¿ exist an n such that it forms a cunmutative field ?

  • @shiqiai2881
    @shiqiai2881 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you!

  • @abhinavkumarkumar3370
    @abhinavkumarkumar3370 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why there is -v1.v2 when multiplying q1and q2. @17 mins

  • @KunalShah62
    @KunalShah62 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did the 5th term in quaternion multiplication come from?

  • @geoffreygoldman1115
    @geoffreygoldman1115 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice lecture. I have a much better conceptual understanding of quaternions.

  • @phartatmisassa5035
    @phartatmisassa5035 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternion#Matrix_representations
    Hmmm,
    So I was sittin on the porch tonight thinkin, and the following is the question I came up with. Given vectors U, V elements of R3 and a quaternion (say) Q element of H s/t Q is the quaternion which rotates U to V ( as with the track-ball), Is it possible to find Q' (Q prime), i.e. the dQ/dV, or the derivative of Q with respect to the change of V s/t V rotates to U. Would that even be useful?

  • @jairo359
    @jairo359 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im a dumbass and I can tell that this lecture is a good one, just watch it a few times over.

  • @bestergester4100
    @bestergester4100 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't understand here at 26:12, what's the theta here represents?

  • @Ybalrid
    @Ybalrid 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually write good amonts of code using quaternions (because, 3D games and VR stuff) I never really fully understood what was these "4 numbers things", and how it can represent, well, rotation around an arbitrary axis, and why you multiply them togeter to get sucessive rotations, and all that jazz ^^"

  • @meriquirogaalbarracin2420
    @meriquirogaalbarracin2420 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    God bles you bro❤😊😊😊

  • @richardfantz5694
    @richardfantz5694 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1. Maxwell's original 20 quaternions instead of the dumbed-down, truncated equations he and Heaviside later developed which is what everyone's taught in school + Nikola Tesla + Non-Herzian waves = Enough said.

  • @definesigint2823
    @definesigint2823 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    [breaks chalk] Well, somebody obviously supplied this classroom with right-handed chalk.

  • @abj1203
    @abj1203 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which website he keeps mentioning?

  • @MatheusLB2009
    @MatheusLB2009 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The F1 Driver, not the Meth cooker

  • @MarincasChannel
    @MarincasChannel 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great lecture! But I'm still confused why quaternions actually use θ/2 instead of θ to represent an axis-angle rotation. My brain reaches a gimbal lock when thinking about this.

    • @BlueinRhapsody
      @BlueinRhapsody 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It is because to perform a rotation with quaternions on some 3-vector v, we take our unit quaternion p to get v' = p v p^-1.
      When we multiply p times v, we rotate on the unit sphere, but we also rotate into the fourth dimension [p v = (*-p dot v*, p_0 v + p x v)]. When we multiply after this by p^-1, we rotate back out of the fourth dimension by the same amount, and we also rotate forward by the same amount on the unit sphere.
      Basically, the first multiplication rotates us halfway there (and a little the wrong way), and the second multiplication rotates us the rest of the way there (and cancels out that 4D bit).

    • @francescorizzi2601
      @francescorizzi2601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BlueinRhapsody please, if you can give any reference link to explain exactly this phenomenon it would be great. I'm struggling to understand this.
      Thank you!

    • @BlueinRhapsody
      @BlueinRhapsody 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@francescorizzi2601 Honestly, I just learned about quaternion rotation from Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternions_and_spatial_rotation

  • @tcioaca
    @tcioaca 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, Heisenberg is probably the biggest inaccuracy. I would like a more solid explanation of what "gimbal lock" actually means. In this lecture, the gimbal lock is explained as if it were originating from another source of singularity inducing factor (alignment of two spatial vectors if I get his intuition correctly). A better approach to understanding gimbal lock is to _explain_ how the gimbal mechanism works. Students usually invoke gimbal lock every time their rotations work incorrectly or stumble upon a singularity.. which is not always caused by this phenomenon.

  • @zdspider6778
    @zdspider6778 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    25:33 Shouldn't it be: _cos(theta/2), sin(theta/2) * v_ ? 🤔

  • @zdspider6778
    @zdspider6778 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Hamilton invented the quaternion, not... Heisenberg. There's even a plaque on a bridge in Dublin where it "hit" him to use "ijk". He wrote it down as: _i^2 = j^2 = k^2 = ijk = −1_

  • @danwu7275
    @danwu7275 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    why not its also unit quaternion Im I right?

    • @user-hh7ec6bz2m
      @user-hh7ec6bz2m 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dan WU its just the matter of which letter to chose to represent the rotation angle as a variable...

  • @brendawilliams8062
    @brendawilliams8062 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thankyou

  • @chanm01
    @chanm01 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ...now kinda wishing I had studied computer graphics in university instead.

  • @SwapanChakravarthy
    @SwapanChakravarthy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If one tries to define the norm of complex and others the values of i-sq and j-sq etc is equal to (- ) 1.

  • @micka6288
    @micka6288 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 19:55 why is division NOT inverseDenominator*numerator in that order like matrix inverse

  • @debendragurung3033
    @debendragurung3033 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I know linear algebra, how much time do I have to learn this

    • @JimAllen-Persona
      @JimAllen-Persona 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Apparently one lecture cuz he’s moving on.

  • @zeeshanijaz2870
    @zeeshanijaz2870 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Around 10:00 the professor says that Heisenberg was not able to figure out ij and was forced to add another term dk to tackle the problem.Well my question is if the assumption we make is that i square = -1 and j square = -1 then it follows that ij = -1. So it is not undefined. So there was never even a problem to start with. Can somebody answer this please

    • @abeno62
      @abeno62 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Zeeshan Ijaz I am no mathematician, but I don't see how you can infere that ij equals minus 1. With the assumption that i^2=j^2=-1, we only can say that i^2 = j^2 nothing more. If I follow your path, you would end up with i=j and then it's completely useless because you only get 'simple' complex numbers.

    • @HeliosFire9ll
      @HeliosFire9ll 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Zeeshan Ijaz
      I've come with the same conclusion, did you ever find the answer to this question?

    • @maxwibert
      @maxwibert 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      1^2=1 and (-1)^2=1, yet 1*(-1)=-1. so i have a counterexample to the argument "a^2=c and b^2=c implies a*b=c."

    • @HeliosFire9ll
      @HeliosFire9ll 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      ok this makes sense now thank you.

    • @seven9766
      @seven9766 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Sentence is : i^2=j^2=k^2=ijk=-1

  • @aylasedai2317
    @aylasedai2317 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hamilton?

  • @gerardoconnor4278
    @gerardoconnor4278 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    William Rowan Hamilton Trinity College Dublin - discoverer of quaternions

  • @wisdomokafor9631
    @wisdomokafor9631 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t get the multiplication part.

  • @TheLeontheking
    @TheLeontheking 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If i^2 = - 1, and j^2 = - 1, why should i*j not be - 1 as well?

    • @APaleDot
      @APaleDot 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because then i = j and you just have standard complex numbers.

  • @yb801
    @yb801 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    4*4 matrix? Why ? Shouldn't it be 3*3 matrix?

  • @ww8720
    @ww8720 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    For q=q1×q2, how do I get q1 when I already know q and q2??

    • @edgarbonet1
      @edgarbonet1 ปีที่แล้ว

      If q = q₁q₂, then
      q₁ = q₁q₂q₂⁻¹ = qq₂⁻¹

  • @ahbushnell1
    @ahbushnell1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Link to notes?? Good video.

  • @iraqplayer7270
    @iraqplayer7270 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In case someone is looking for the cheat sheet the professor is referring to:
    graphics.cs.ucdavis.edu/~joy/ecs178/Transformations/Quaternions.pdf

    • @pierresarrailh6617
      @pierresarrailh6617 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks a ton I really needed it and cant access the site as I am not a student

    • @iraqplayer7270
      @iraqplayer7270 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pierresarrailh6617 You are welcome! So you have gotten the cheat sheet right?

    • @iraqplayer7270
      @iraqplayer7270 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @1 conscience 0 dimension Good to hear! and yea, I searched up the matrix, it seems interesting.

  • @TenHanger
    @TenHanger 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    William Rowan Hamilton

  • @guilhermeartigueirohenriqu2011
    @guilhermeartigueirohenriqu2011 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    A Profundidade necessitante

  • @streamapp
    @streamapp 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe this is a "dot product inverse", not a multiplicative inverse. Loosely saying inverse is a rather dangerous things when teaching students because they might not realize that you can't actually multiply two quaternions together due to dimensional mismatch.

    • @dlwatib
      @dlwatib 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +David Jackson Except that you *can* multiply two quaternions together. That's kinda the whole point! View the video again. You use both the dot product and also the cross product when multiplying.

    • @techeadache
      @techeadache 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +dlwatib +David Jackson
      After all that work, 19:20. The inverse (reciprocal) is wrong. V should be negative V. The reciprocal of a quaternion(q) is its conjugate(q*) divided by its norm squared(||q||^2). The conjugate(q*) is written as q* = (a, -V). The norm is referred to as the length in this video.
      So it turns out that everyone is wrong. Rejoice! Except dlwatib. He is still right. This professor has trouble with negative signs. But it is the concept that matters. Too bad no one understands the concept. 150 years later, Sir Hamilton is still owning us.

    • @Math_oma
      @Math_oma 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +d jax
      What is a "dot product inverse"?
      It is a fact that all nonzero quaternions, that is, the quaternion (0,0,0,0), have an inverse. Furthermore, any two quaternions can be multiplied together, there is never "dimensional mismatch".

  • @Supercatzs
    @Supercatzs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quaternions start at 7:07

  • @Pengochan
    @Pengochan 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    nobody noticing that the inverse is missing a minus sign: students sleeping soundly.

  • @justbeyondthemath4559
    @justbeyondthemath4559 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Quaternions are the first step to fixing Euclidean space. To the beginner, you can think of i,j,k as 90 degree rotations in the respective planes. Just like the Argand plane (complex plane) or i plane in the quaternions.
    1xi = i ixi =-1 -1 x i = -i and -i x i = 1 which puts us back to where we started. BTW I right multiplied to show you next state but technically it should be left side.

  • @8cccpeevostokzempf
    @8cccpeevostokzempf 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not too sure about the Heisenberg reference.

  • @shohamsen8986
    @shohamsen8986 8 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Did he say heisenberg??? Waaaaaat

    • @thetntm2
      @thetntm2 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +Shoham Sen it wasn't heisenberg. The man who discovered quaternions was sir William Rowan Hamilton.

    • @shohamsen8986
      @shohamsen8986 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      thetntm yeah i know hence the question mark... :)

    • @comprehensiveboy
      @comprehensiveboy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was terrible misinformation. I can only guess it is because some people are not too interested is who did what.

    • @ChristianS1978
      @ChristianS1978 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +comprehensiveboy
      According to Simon Altmann (cf. Wikipedia) it was Carl Friedrich Gauss in 1819 (only published in 1900).

    • @Beon234
      @Beon234 8 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      +Shoham Sen "I am the one who rotates" - Heisenberg

  • @pianochannel100
    @pianochannel100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Go play with 3 blue 1 brown's interactive video lectures if you want to learn about quaternions.

  • @AndreaCalaon73
    @AndreaCalaon73 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We want Geometric Algebra!

  • @brod515
    @brod515 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't understand these complex numbers. can someone explain how ij = k.

    • @henhen7890
      @henhen7890 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not sure if this is the right way of thinking about it, but..
      I think j and k are additional dimensions in the imaginary space, much like how we have x y and z. Where if you cross x and y you get z, they complement each other.

    • @alfonshomac
      @alfonshomac 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So remember that i^2 = j^2 = k^2 = ijk = -1
      get ijk = -1
      Multiply both sides by k, consider each of the following lines as steps.
      ijkk = -1k
      ijk^2 = -k
      ij(-1) = -k because k^2 = -1
      -ij = -k
      ij = k

    • @dangiscongrataway2365
      @dangiscongrataway2365 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      how does this work exactly? ikj=-1 but i^2=k^2=j^2=-1 that doesn't make sense
      It doesn't make sense to me, why i=k=j isn't true?

    • @alfonshomac
      @alfonshomac 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spaskiba There's a channel called mathoma that has better videos on this. look for him.

  • @joehsiao6224
    @joehsiao6224 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question:
    The professor said we can multiply a series of quaternions and convert the final result to a 4x4 matrix and use it with other transformations. But can't we just multiply the 4x4 matrix of each rotation and get a final 4x4 matrix that way? Isn't this how cumulative matrices work in OpenGL?

    • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
      @lawrencedoliveiro9104 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think the main problem is not the computational expense, it’s the potential for rounding errors.
      Say you are doing an animation, with repeated accumulation of lots of small rotations. The resulting matrix ends up no longer representing a pure rotation, it adds some distortion to the object as well.
      Using a data structure that can only representation rotations (like quaternions) avoids this problem. You accumulate the quaternion, then convert to a matrix at each step. At the next step, you don’t use that matrix again, you compute a new one from the updated quaternion.

  • @diabolicallink
    @diabolicallink 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everyone is complaining about him using the wrong name. But this isn't a history course, so does it really matter who?

  • @justbeyondthemath4559
    @justbeyondthemath4559 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a former engineering math professor I would suggest you watch his video series. He has such a good grasp of the geometrics of the math, it will make the complicated math grinding make sense when you apply it. Plus he is actually teaching this stuff not just writing stuff on the board and explaining what he is writing. BTW the very best explanation of Hamilton trying to multiply triplets and what his hang up was. The rest becomes intuitive.

  • @TheRCrispim
    @TheRCrispim 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hamilton, not Heisenberg. •-•

  • @McTofuwuerfel
    @McTofuwuerfel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Even he said Heisenberg, I am certain it was Hamilton.

    • @williamolenchenko5772
      @williamolenchenko5772 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some people heard "Hamilton" and some heard "Heisenberg."

  • @Artecolote1
    @Artecolote1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is really hard because i'm paying close attention to find out he made a mistake. and now i have to unlearn his mistake plus learn the correction. this should have been edited before uploading and this guy should have practiced his lesson before hand.

  • @harandianr
    @harandianr 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A little algebra would have made things simpler and cleaner.q=a+bi+cj+dk, Hamiltonian numbers are an extension of complex numbers. As person with mathematical background I found the lecture a bit confusing. In math you easily and cleanly show that Hamiltonian numbers form a number system but there is no commutation.Showing a=a+v part is the interesting part of this lecture. But I wish he had done it in a cleaner way mathematically. Wikipedia covers this but still I wish someone would post a lecture on rotation using Hamiltonian numbers in a detailed and clear way.
    But the way Hamilton wanted to make a number system in dimension 3 but it did not work. Mathematically , there are number systems of dime nation 1,2 ,4 and 8 and that is all, nothing beyond 8. Dimension 8 numbers are called Cayley
    With Cayley numbers you do not have a(bc) equal to (ab)c
    numbers. It took decades before Hamiltonian found their way into application . Let us hope that Cayley find their way in years rather than decades.

  • @xusv-hi4kl
    @xusv-hi4kl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    😀

  • @rasitcakir9680
    @rasitcakir9680 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Engineers!
    They get what they want.
    They don't care where they come from.