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What makes no sense is TV companies dont typically let go of shows which make millions of dollars that are totally turn key. It would be insane for Pilgrim not to pitch it to another station. Makes no sense.
I don’t believe Pilgrim can pitch it to another network, Because Discovery bought the Street Outlaws brand once it took off. No network wants a production company to hold control over a multi million dollar brand. Pilgrim could put it up for auction to the highest bidder at that point. Discovery owns all the Street Outlaw shows, even the spin-offs. Like JJ da boss, Kye Kelly’s show, Fastest in America, NPK was a spinoff show. They used some of the OG 405 guys to promote it at first. But NPK can’t survive without TV money. Semis, stacker trailers, $250k race cars, couple $100k motors, $15k Transmissions, diesel fuel, pay a crew, all for a chance to Win $40k? And sell a few shirts? Wait till the sponsors on the cars find out there are no TV cameras filming season. I bet some pull out. I do think NPK will continue as a series. It puts butts in seats. But it will be local racers like me and you running for a $5-$10k purse. No Prep racing has became popular. It keeps guys off the streets racing. Not all, you will always have a few street races. I been to a few myself in Mexico. Long drive, but worth it…lol 🇺🇸🦅🏁💸
Lionsgate purchased all the rights to Street Outlaws, Naked and Afraid and some other shows on Discovery i never watched just google lionsgate and Street Outlaws the article was from Lionsgate what channel or how and if they deliver it is anybodys clue.
Echoing what riverrat posted already, perhaps the novelty of S.O. , S.O.M., and N.P.K. has worn off and the broadcast i s n t worth what it was. The live event will last a while, but without exposure beyond the livestreams, the sponser dollars for the competitors will dry up rather quickly. Without verifyable eyeballs (think nielson ratings for example) corporate america will not support anything. Not just this.
What a bunch of babies. NPK is going nowhere and will be livestreamed, which is what I've wanted for years. Plenty of racing organizations are doing just fine without having to be on tv.
Discovery Channel is owed by Warner Bros, CBS, Showtime, Max app etc! I canceling my Discovery + Plus app. The way to hurt rich people and hurt peoples companys is to cancel extras we pay for every month! Cancel Monthly subscriptions that we pay for and the companies that advertise on those networks! Stop buying those products and tell adversers on social media why.
No this is what happens when people sign a agreement not to sue due to injury or death and can't live with the results life gives you!!! Discovery doesn't want to catch a lawsuit from street racing accidents.
Hate Big Chief or love him...This was what he warned us about. He wanted to keep the 405 show small to protect its value but everybody else saw it differently.
WHY DON'T THEY PITCH THE STREET OUTLAWS SHOW TO THE MOTOR TREND CHANNEL OR SPIKE T.V. ALONG WITH POWER BLOCK SEGMENTS? It's crazy how corporations force people to watch what they approve for viewing. It's madness out there where most companies think like BUD LIGHT. Forcing things on people and trying to change behaviors, it's crazy 😧. Just my opinion. Anyway, thanks for the video 📸.
Sim I could be wrong but I don’t think I am, I heard the reason why there was no film crew there because it wasn’t a points paying race, they have done this in the past remember last year when they did not have a points paying race, and they didn’t film it after that guy died.
I think jj is great for the show ,i would like 2 see chief come back but it looks like chief is done &is doing his own thing ,maybe 1 day he will be back on tv
That's a kick in the teeth which to me such a great show that really revived racing which I began seeing since 2019 and it had a lot of great moments which sadly they very much decided to abandoned which after the last show they did in Australia they knew this wasn't going to sell so they very much left them out in the dark that carried into hearing this news which its heart breaking thanks for the great shows you given us I hope another outlet will get it on air.
I seen this coming for the 405 show. When Lutz drove to OKC to clean out his shop a few months ago and loaded everything in a semi. If you watch his TH-cam channel he almost lets it slip that the show is over. I noticed that around January Shawn started pumping out TH-cam content like it’s his job. He is building a burnout truck to compete at Cleetus and cars events and other events. He never had time for something like that before. He needs this for TH-cam content in my opinion. I said a while back that NPK was over. They had not aired season 6 and Discovery said nothing about promotion of season 7. The writing was on the wall. I totally believe that NPK will go on. It was good for the track owners. It put butts in the stands. But I think guys like Shawn, Lutz, Kye, Ryan and others will be dropping out of NPK. They have sponsors money for this season because these companies thought they would see their names on TV with decals on the cars. Like Shawn running Ram Jacks. Lutz with RC Comp. And many others. I believe these companies thought season 7 would be on Discovery. NPK will go on as a series, but without a TV crew. It will be small time guys racing for a $5000 purse. Let’s face it. These guys can’t run all over the country in semi’s with stacker trailers, $200k race cars, a couple $100k engines, 2-3 $10k transmissions, thousands in tires every event. Plus the diesel fuel to run back and forth across the country for a $40,000 purse. The math don’t math at this point. Without Discovery paying these guys they can’t afford to race for a chance at $40k at this level. Let’s face it. Guys like Robin Robert’s and a few others can keep going and write off his racing as an advertisement for his business. But that’s just a few. But if there is no TV cameras at season 7 then most of these guys will be losing sponsorship for next year. Some may pull out this year if they find out it’s not going on TV. I heard the 405 Show and any Street Outlaw TV show was over when the last guy got killed during filming of a TV show. I’m not sure what show it was for. I believe the family has a lawsuit against Pilgrim and Discovery. Discovery doesn’t want any show that’s a liability. NPK was tied to the Street Outlaws brand. They used all the pictures of the 405 guys to promote NPK. That’s why you have not seen season 6 aired. We may never see that show aired. I believe Discovery is done with anything related to Street Outlaws. Pilgrim may try and sell season 6 to another network and they may try and sell Street Outlaws. Do we even know if Discovery bought season 6 from Pilgrim? I don’t believe you will see any new Street Outlaw shows on Discovery. Just my opinion. We already seen the spinoff shows earlier on when the Street Outlaws ratings was up. JJ Da Boss, and Kye Kelly had a show for a season I believe. NPK was a Spinoff of Street Outlaws. This had nothing to do with Chief leaving the show. The show ran for a decade, not many TV shows make it that long. Plus it’s a ratings and numbers game. If the numbers was down on the TV show, and they have to pay out millions in a wrongful death lawsuit the show becomes a liability to any network. It will be a hard sell for Pilgrim to sell Street Outlaws to another network. And if Discovery holds the right to the name then Pilgrim has to buy Discovery out before they can push it to a different network. It all boils down to money. This is a lot bigger than people leaving the show. The show has left the people. It’s a shame, because guys like Shawn had a good job as a Lineman. Had insurance and benefits for his family, plus He left a retirement to film a 10yr show. I seen a podcast where one original 405 guy said The first year they got $1,000 an episode. Money went up over the years, but nobody made enough money to retire on. They had to sell merchandise at events to even make it work for NPK. I feel sorry for the guys that just spent a quarter million to get a new car built thinking they had another season of TV money to pay for it. They better sell a lot of T-shirts..
@@AmericanPirate I agree to a point, but he didn’t run NPK. Like I said in another comment. I believe they have a wrongful Death lawsuit hanging over the brand. Ryan Fellows was killed last fall while filming Street Outlaws. Discovery don’t want this kinda liability. NPK was tied to SO and I believe Discovery owned the trademark. Pilgrim was just the production company. Pilgrim may of owned it for the pilot, but Discovery buys the name or trademark once they see it will be a success. And it was a huge success. 13 seasons of Street Outlaws and 6 seasons of NKP. That’s huge in the TV world. Someone could buy the SO and NPK trademark from Discovery, but not with an open Lawsuit not settled. I have a friend that works for a huge production company. He is based out of Atlanta. He moved there from California to film the first season of The Walking Dead. He told me how the film and TV business works. I’m no expert, I’m just repeating what he told me. He has a friend that worked for Pilgrim Media Group. In 2022 Pilgrim bought into Lions Gate Entertainment and they mainly do only Podcast. SO and NPK was Pilgrim Media Group’s last cash cow with Discovery. They are moving towards Podcasts production and moving away from reality TV shows. This is all public knowledge, you can look it up about Pilgrim. I believe they was waiting for Discovery to cancel the production of SO and NPK’s. I think they are filming season 7 of NPK in hopes that discovery decides to Air 6 and 7 because they make so much money from it. I could be wrong.
Lets put a few things into perspective. There are no points until round 4, Discovery lost heaps of money with the Ryan Fellows lawsuit. The final two rounds of season 6 were not filmed. Pilgrim studios was sold to Lionsgate. There are drivers concentrating on family and are not racing this year Chuck55, Mike Bowman, Damon and others won't compete until round 4.
Sim, I was at the Maple Grove event and Jeff Lutz did a Q and A with fans. He stated there are changes happening but there is nothing saying the show is over. He also did state street shows are still in the works as well. NPK is working on live streaming the events. The first 3 events aren’t for points and are beta tests on how they will move forward for the brand.
In Ryan Martins newest TH-cam video he says Sam the main producer from Pilgrim was onsite and you can also see Jen (Blonde woman) the other producer from Pilgrim at the end of the video on the starting line. Don't know what it means or if they still work for Pilgrim...They were also filming promotions with Ryan and Shawn but not with TV cameras.
There saying the first 3 events aren’t being filmed. You bashing the ratings hasn't helped. So if Street Outlaws is over then we don’t half to hear anymore of your lies! Go talk about Fortnite.
@@donniepotter6116 Regardless if it is over or not! I've watched it on Upshifts TH-cam channel live for over 2 years now. (JJ /is Upshift). Pilgrim owns StreetOutlaws and NPK not the DiscoveryChannel. Big Chief might have some ownership of the Street Outlaws brand? Who knows? Discovery isn't the only tv network out there. The Shows could possibly be aired on another channel/network. Unless Slim can read Sams, Jenifer and Craig Pilgrim's mind. I wouldn’t make outlandish claims.
LOL 😂 I wouldn't be shocked if that would happen at some point... Now A friend of mine out of Oklahoma he's live streaming them also this year and his first weekend out this past weekend was a huge success
The weather was crap Friday night . Saturday was a lot fuller than Friday and the temp was probably 45-50 with the windchill. Not surprised at all that it wasn’t packed
When I was at Maple Grove this weekend one of the biggest things that clued me in on it being over was this. They only had one stand with a black or white shirt and a black and white hat. That was the only street outlaws merch at the entire venue.
It’s crazy because there going to Canada next . Hard to believe they won’t make a show of that … but unfortunately the franchise over saturated the heck out of the street outlaws shows . There was just to many to keep up with and people lost interest
The fact that they're not on TV anymore does not signify the end of the world if you're a true fan of those guys you follow every single one of them and know exactly what they're doing so you're not missing anything actually you're getting more info than what TV gives you
Npk is Sam's baby no.matter what....I hope it at least continues to be a sanctioned racing series....do you really think the guys with contracts would still be showing up if there was no chance of there being a show
The thing is I believe every other time they have done the no points races they have still filmed them. Also a bunch of people are saying there is no tv contracts for the drivers anymore. I’m sure npk still pay the top guys but the direct tv money apparently is not there. Honestly I hope I am completely wrong with all of this but this is all I saw people talking about all weekend
There's some teams out there that do own businesses and they have good incomes like Robin Roberts for instance, that man has plenty of money and more than pretty much any of the rest of them and then there's those small teams that are like Bobby ducote and I don't know if he is self-employed or not but he works on transformers and he says money can get tired every now and then.. Shawn Ellington used to be self-employed as a underground power line contractor that laid some powerline for the power companies and I mean it wasn't no big business at all or anything but I'm sure he kept his bills paid and daddy Dave was a department of highways worker for the state of Oklahoma and usually those jobs don't pay too much money but I have a feeling some of these people might be having to go back to work, if he's contracts and stuff end with the TV shows
Keep watching other live feeds. During the chip draw which is on TH-cam, Jen the blonde that always coordinated with the racers and I believe worked for Pilgrim. She was at the chip draw and after the races were announced went to Shawn and every driver and saying something. I think Pilgrim cut ties with Discovery but something is definitely up. Its possible the Dana White buying it theory or velocity, but the revenue these events pull in and popularity someone would puck it up. I suspect if Dana did buy it might be the best outcome, he knows everyone loves cars and racing! He probably could promote sooo much better and make it HUGE. Just like when everyone thought cage fighting was stupid now years later look what happened
When you purchase the tickets on the foat it does still say it’s being filmed for tv. Why the hell they aren’t airing last season is a mystery tho. I highly doubt if it’s over with. It still makes too much money
I still think Big Chief and Monza were very smart in the way they talked about things and Mom said that money will come to an end and yes it was the best money that most any of the teams were making and if those people weren't saving any of that income, they would deeply regret because the salaries that any of them have made so far up until last year isn't enough to support those high lifestyles and a retirement because too many of them drivers are way too young right now and spend that TV show money like it's going out of style when they should be banking that easy money and be planning on their futures ahead and especially for retirement time
Now it's time to treat it for what it is and that's the Major League's of no prep racing. Have a points payout for big and small tire and make it big so it encourages people to run the whole season.
There is probably a simple explanation like the show does not bring in as much viewers and money as it did before so they don't want it anymore. Plus we can watch the entire season on TH-cam a year early so that kills most of the hype. Another thing is watching video of a drag race is like 10% as exciting as watching it at the track in person.
They're trying out running races with no TV's to see if it's profitable enough to cut the show off. The first 4 races mean nothing to the points.I don't know why people are going
Sim, now you're going to have to rename your streams to something different or cover something different like the no prep seen that's out there you use always talk about Ryan Mitchell
Discovery is not advertising anything street outlaws related for shows to air. They have goldrush, that mud show, several other types of shows but no street outlaws. I dont think its coming back.
Guess you don’t listen to npk drivers why would they keep spending hundreds of thousands of dollars chasing something that won’t will air anywhere 🤷🏼♂️
I think this could be a big pile of crap…. OR … if some of these drivers could put their egos aside and figure out how to work there social media departments together they all could be rolling in cash The first thing they should do is higher you SIM ABCXYZ to be one of their main hype, men and track advisors
You also got to think about fans,merch and venues how long will people go or buy shirts and hats or want autographs from someone who isn’t on TV and venues spent a lot of money putting these on so there track was on TV to bring in fans and big ticket sales and food vendors sales. That’s all gone without a tv show.
Cali Nate just died. This show has been done and in the can for months. Even the Ryan Fellows death wouldn't have an affect on this. NPK is done on a regular track. Not the street. This is just some executive that doesn't like racing.
All will be Live Streamed now thru Them but idk how. Was good Race in PA (Sure u Know Details we Cant say) Now every1 doing TH-cam n Streaming now on. So Hope last season Airs Somewhere still
Hey sim discovery is washing there hands with the street shows I think with the wrecks and lawsuits pretty much put the nial in the coffin. As always keep up the awesome work let's go ttve 💪 💯
You hit the nail on the head as to one of the big reasons for Discovery to drop NPK at around 8 minutes into this video. Too many people recording / videoing and way too many TH-cam channels full of race content. This was one of the big starts to the ratings drop. Not to mention all the Discovery bad mouthing that the fans would do in the comments sections of said videos. So many fans would run to TH-cam to watch a condensed version of the event then praise the content author will disrespecting Discovery for dragging the races out for a 2 hr. tv show. This started a long time ago and now this is what we have left. That is as long as the tracks can turn enough profit to maintain. Maybe they should return to working a day job and street racing as they were doing prior to any cameras. While still involved, Chief made a comment years ago that there was way too much content popping up on TH-cam from fans with cameras and it was going to eventually hurt the ratings. The racers content at that time was just shop and test related.
If Discovery doesn't show Street Outlaws anymore I have decided not to watch anything made and shown on Discovery after 2023. I'll just enjoy the old stuff like I used to and move on.😢 😡 To hell with Discovery they can keep their Mud Madness and other new CRAP also. Dirty scoundrels!!!!
And you gotta remember they’ve changed the way they film not necessarily they have the big cameras there anymore. They put together videos off of everybody else’s GoPro just everybody has a TH-cam channel and they just place together or show.
Instead of being called Street Outlaws No Prep King's. It should be called something else. Since they are not racing anymore on the street. They won't be filming on the streets anymore due to a serious accident that was filmed on the show. But it was removed when they aired it. Pilgrim Studio couldn't reach a deal with the cast of Street Outlaw's. They all wanted more $$$$$.
If you have noticed with Discovery Channel they are getting the whip cracked on them now over a lot of their shows contain a lot of content that really by law isn't very legal and to keep themselves out of hot water I believe that's why you're not seeing a lot of activity with the racing right now but they are going to start filming starting on the 4th NPK race.. Street outlaws isn't the only show that probably going to get scaled way back or maybe cut out completely but the moonshiners will probably be the next show that gets the hatchet because they're now having to do a disclaimer at the beginning of those shows saying it's illegal don't do it at home and it is dangerous and can take your life and for no one to try that stuff at home... I believe they're going to film the shows and they're going to put the stuff on Discovery plus only to where you have to pay to be able to watch them and the live streaming will still keep taking place even when they're filming
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Once Chief left ratings started to drop. Intially ratings were okay for shows like Memphis and npk. But JJ just rubs a lot of people the wrong way. Then the lawsuit was the nail in coffin for all the street racing shows on discovery. In my opinion Npk grew to fast for its own good. Growth is good and inevitable over time. With all the rules it turned into a no prep nrha and lost it'srawness. A lot of Og Racers left because they don't have a high dollar program. Yet small tire guys are making a living off TH-cam now. It's because it's what interests people like the og 405 show once did.
I think there was a lot leading up to this and people die while racing on the road because there is no one regulating the safety of the road down to the cars themselves is a bigger problem because of other who don’t have the same equipment and it makes it dangerous. It is unfortunate that it had to come to this though especially the track stuff not airing
What makes no sense is TV companies dont typically let go of shows which make millions of dollars that are totally turn key. It would be insane for Pilgrim not to pitch it to another station. Makes no sense.
You would think that Velocity, Motor trend FS1 or someone would jump all over it, especially something that’s already established and turn key
I don’t believe Pilgrim can pitch it to another network, Because Discovery bought the Street Outlaws brand once it took off. No network wants a production company to hold control over a multi million dollar brand. Pilgrim could put it up for auction to the highest bidder at that point. Discovery owns all the Street Outlaw shows, even the spin-offs. Like JJ da boss, Kye Kelly’s show, Fastest in America, NPK was a spinoff show. They used some of the OG 405 guys to promote it at first. But NPK can’t survive without TV money. Semis, stacker trailers, $250k race cars, couple $100k motors, $15k Transmissions, diesel fuel, pay a crew, all for a chance to Win $40k? And sell a few shirts? Wait till the sponsors on the cars find out there are no TV cameras filming season. I bet some pull out.
I do think NPK will continue as a series. It puts butts in seats. But it will be local racers like me and you running for a $5-$10k purse. No Prep racing has became popular. It keeps guys off the streets racing. Not all, you will always have a few street races. I been to a few myself in Mexico. Long drive, but worth it…lol 🇺🇸🦅🏁💸
Lionsgate purchased all the rights to Street Outlaws, Naked and Afraid and some other shows on Discovery i never watched just google lionsgate and Street Outlaws the article was from Lionsgate what channel or how and if they deliver it is anybodys clue.
Echoing what riverrat posted already, perhaps the novelty of S.O. , S.O.M., and N.P.K. has worn off and the broadcast i s n t worth what it was. The live event will last a while, but without exposure beyond the livestreams, the sponser dollars for the competitors will dry up rather quickly. Without verifyable eyeballs (think nielson ratings for example) corporate america will not support anything. Not just this.
They cancelled street outlaws....In time everything runs it course.
Everyone should cancel their subscription to discovery.
I already did a couple weeks ago
What a bunch of babies. NPK is going nowhere and will be livestreamed, which is what I've wanted for years. Plenty of racing organizations are doing just fine without having to be on tv.
Just did my brother's and sons did as well
Doing it tonight.
Discovery Channel is owed by Warner Bros, CBS, Showtime, Max app etc! I canceling my Discovery + Plus app. The way to hurt rich people and hurt peoples companys is to cancel extras we pay for every month! Cancel Monthly subscriptions that we pay for and the companies that advertise on those networks! Stop buying those products and tell adversers on social media why.
We can talk around it all we want. Letting Chief walk away, and lifting JJ was a MAJOR mistake for the street shows!!!
Walk away ? You're fired
Wrong
No this is what happens when people sign a agreement not to sue due to injury or death and can't live with the results life gives you!!! Discovery doesn't want to catch a lawsuit from street racing accidents.
Yep I really think it’s all about the lawsuit
Chief leaving was blessin
Hate Big Chief or love him...This was what he warned us about. He wanted to keep the 405 show small to protect its value but everybody else saw it differently.
Yup!
I never thought in a million years StOL would end like this 🤯
WHY DON'T THEY PITCH THE STREET OUTLAWS SHOW TO THE MOTOR TREND CHANNEL OR SPIKE T.V. ALONG WITH POWER BLOCK SEGMENTS? It's crazy how corporations force people to watch what they approve for viewing. It's madness out there where most companies think like BUD LIGHT. Forcing things on people and trying to change behaviors, it's crazy 😧. Just my opinion. Anyway, thanks for the video 📸.
Because it's owned by Discovery!!
Spike no longer exists
true...youre right
Sim I could be wrong but I don’t think I am, I heard the reason why there was no film crew there because it wasn’t a points paying race, they have done this in the past remember last year when they did not have a points paying race, and they didn’t film it after that guy died.
I think you're right and said the same thing.
I heard the same
JJ and Sister Wives ruined the brand 😂
You’re not to bright yourself marring your sister
No. It got played out. It's a TV show
I think jj is great for the show ,i would like 2 see chief come back but it looks like chief is done &is doing his own thing ,maybe 1 day he will be back on tv
JJ and his crew was the only thing keeping it going, it just ran its course
@@dannypatterson5738 JJ wasn't keeping street outlaws going. Lol Big Chief said the street outlaws brand was about done when he left the show.
thats what a lawsuit can do.
Who's got a lawsuit and why ?? I haven't heard
The family of Ryan fellows is suing them after he died on the street show a couple years ago.
@@jasong712100% what's going on, plus the new head honcho running the network doesn't want the show at all....
@@jasong712 I think there could be more truth to this than people think and its not right he new the dangers of what he was doing
@@jasong712 wow, didn't know, thanks for the info
Dominator said they have something big in the works on his social media i think
No More Street Outlaws, what the fuk
NPK is still around and going nowhere. It will just be livestreamed instead of airing on tv 6 months later.
That's a kick in the teeth which to me such a great show that really revived racing which I began seeing since 2019 and it had a lot of great moments which sadly they very much decided to abandoned which after the last show they did in Australia they knew this wasn't going to sell so they very much left them out in the dark that carried into hearing this news which its heart breaking thanks for the great shows you given us I hope another outlet will get it on air.
I seen this coming for the 405 show. When Lutz drove to OKC to clean out his shop a few months ago and loaded everything in a semi. If you watch his TH-cam channel he almost lets it slip that the show is over. I noticed that around January Shawn started pumping out TH-cam content like it’s his job. He is building a burnout truck to compete at Cleetus and cars events and other events. He never had time for something like that before. He needs this for TH-cam content in my opinion. I said a while back that NPK was over. They had not aired season 6 and Discovery said nothing about promotion of season 7. The writing was on the wall. I totally believe that NPK will go on. It was good for the track owners. It put butts in the stands. But I think guys like Shawn, Lutz, Kye, Ryan and others will be dropping out of NPK. They have sponsors money for this season because these companies thought they would see their names on TV with decals on the cars. Like Shawn running Ram Jacks. Lutz with RC Comp. And many others. I believe these companies thought season 7 would be on Discovery.
NPK will go on as a series, but without a TV crew. It will be small time guys racing for a $5000 purse.
Let’s face it. These guys can’t run all over the country in semi’s with stacker trailers, $200k race cars, a couple $100k engines, 2-3 $10k transmissions, thousands in tires every event. Plus the diesel fuel to run back and forth across the country for a $40,000 purse. The math don’t math at this point. Without Discovery paying these guys they can’t afford to race for a chance at $40k at this level.
Let’s face it. Guys like Robin Robert’s and a few others can keep going and write off his racing as an advertisement for his business. But that’s just a few. But if there is no TV cameras at season 7 then most of these guys will be losing sponsorship for next year. Some may pull out this year if they find out it’s not going on TV.
I heard the 405 Show and any Street Outlaw TV show was over when the last guy got killed during filming of a TV show. I’m not sure what show it was for. I believe the family has a lawsuit against Pilgrim and Discovery. Discovery doesn’t want any show that’s a liability. NPK was tied to the Street Outlaws brand. They used all the pictures of the 405 guys to promote NPK. That’s why you have not seen season 6 aired. We may never see that show aired. I believe Discovery is done with anything related to Street Outlaws. Pilgrim may try and sell season 6 to another network and they may try and sell Street Outlaws. Do we even know if Discovery bought season 6 from Pilgrim? I don’t believe you will see any new Street Outlaw shows on Discovery. Just my opinion. We already seen the spinoff shows earlier on when the Street Outlaws ratings was up. JJ Da Boss, and Kye Kelly had a show for a season I believe. NPK was a Spinoff of Street Outlaws.
This had nothing to do with Chief leaving the show. The show ran for a decade, not many TV shows make it that long. Plus it’s a ratings and numbers game. If the numbers was down on the TV show, and they have to pay out millions in a wrongful death lawsuit the show becomes a liability to any network. It will be a hard sell for Pilgrim to sell Street Outlaws to another network. And if Discovery holds the right to the name then Pilgrim has to buy Discovery out before they can push it to a different network. It all boils down to money. This is a lot bigger than people leaving the show. The show has left the people. It’s a shame, because guys like Shawn had a good job as a Lineman. Had insurance and benefits for his family, plus He left a retirement to film a 10yr show. I seen a podcast where one original 405 guy said The first year they got $1,000 an episode. Money went up over the years, but nobody made enough money to retire on. They had to sell merchandise at events to even make it work for NPK. I feel sorry for the guys that just spent a quarter million to get a new car built thinking they had another season of TV money to pay for it. They better sell a lot of T-shirts..
The show took a big hit losing Chief. Like him or not he was the perfect narrator and was why a lot of people watched the show
@@AmericanPirate I agree to a point, but he didn’t run NPK. Like I said in another comment. I believe they have a wrongful Death lawsuit hanging over the brand. Ryan Fellows was killed last fall while filming Street Outlaws. Discovery don’t want this kinda liability. NPK was tied to SO and I believe Discovery owned the trademark. Pilgrim was just the production company. Pilgrim may of owned it for the pilot, but Discovery buys the name or trademark once they see it will be a success. And it was a huge success. 13 seasons of Street Outlaws and 6 seasons of NKP. That’s huge in the TV world. Someone could buy the SO and NPK trademark from Discovery, but not with an open Lawsuit not settled. I have a friend that works for a huge production company. He is based out of Atlanta. He moved there from California to film the first season of The Walking Dead. He told me how the film and TV business works. I’m no expert, I’m just repeating what he told me. He has a friend that worked for Pilgrim Media Group. In 2022 Pilgrim bought into Lions Gate Entertainment and they mainly do only Podcast. SO and NPK was Pilgrim Media Group’s last cash cow with Discovery. They are moving towards Podcasts production and moving away from reality TV shows. This is all public knowledge, you can look it up about Pilgrim. I believe they was waiting for Discovery to cancel the production of SO and NPK’s. I think they are filming season 7 of NPK in hopes that discovery decides to Air 6 and 7 because they make so much money from it. I could be wrong.
Lets put a few things into perspective. There are no points until round 4, Discovery lost heaps of money with the Ryan Fellows lawsuit. The final two rounds of season 6 were not filmed. Pilgrim studios was sold to Lionsgate. There are drivers concentrating on family and are not racing this year Chuck55, Mike Bowman, Damon and others won't compete until round 4.
You ever think that they're not filming races that don't have points ? I'm pretty sure they didn't film the first no points race from season 6 either.
Sim, I was at the Maple Grove event and Jeff Lutz did a Q and A with fans. He stated there are changes happening but there is nothing saying the show is over. He also did state street shows are still in the works as well. NPK is working on live streaming the events. The first 3 events aren’t for points and are beta tests on how they will move forward for the brand.
The Maple Grove show was awesome and well run, filmed from the side stand. 💞
Bro been around drag racing for 25+ years. No prep is a fad. The fad is done. Back to Backhalf racing and Outlaw 10.5 racing.
Can’t push electric cars and “going green” and have shows about Motorsports. All part of the agenda IMO!
On Jim Howe’s live stream today it’s quite clear that Dana white is doing something with street outlaws real soon.
A comment for the youtube algorithm. Got mud? "The revolution will not be televised" Thanks for the videos. 👍
In Ryan Martins newest TH-cam video he says Sam the main producer from Pilgrim was onsite and you can also see Jen (Blonde woman) the other producer from Pilgrim at the end of the video on the starting line. Don't know what it means or if they still work for Pilgrim...They were also filming promotions with Ryan and Shawn but not with TV cameras.
They will be live streaming after the third race, which is when the points start. There will be a website that you can watch it on.
They are talking to another company trying to sell the franchise to them. We may see it again but it won’t be on discovery.
There saying the first 3 events aren’t being filmed. You bashing the ratings hasn't helped. So if Street Outlaws is over then we don’t half to hear anymore of your lies! Go talk about Fortnite.
He isn't wrong!! The show is OVER!! You can only watch it on a live stream from upshift 360, no more TV, no more street outlaws!! Only NPK!!
@@donniepotter6116 Regardless if it is over or not! I've watched it on Upshifts TH-cam channel live for over 2 years now. (JJ /is Upshift). Pilgrim owns StreetOutlaws and NPK not the DiscoveryChannel. Big Chief might have some ownership of the Street Outlaws brand? Who knows? Discovery isn't the only tv network out there. The Shows could possibly be aired on another channel/network. Unless Slim can read Sams, Jenifer and Craig Pilgrim's mind. I wouldn’t make outlandish claims.
Street Outlaws live has a post on Facebook that says the race will be filmed in Va.
THIS JUST IN TO OUR NEWSROOM.. *JayJay from Upshift360 shows up to Maple Grove with 2 semi trucks full of equipment!*
LOL 😂 I wouldn't be shocked if that would happen at some point... Now A friend of mine out of Oklahoma he's live streaming them also this year and his first weekend out this past weekend was a huge success
@@goldhunter9641 I keep messaging him and telling him that he has to do it..
TAKE DOWN DISCOVERY. DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR 😢
When the spectators don’t show up like I saw at Maple Grove they’re done. This weekend Va I still haven’t entered an not sure I’m going to
The weather was crap Friday night . Saturday was a lot fuller than Friday and the temp was probably 45-50 with the windchill. Not surprised at all that it wasn’t packed
They flat out said during the driver Q/A that season 7 is going to air on a payed streaming platform.
When I was at Maple Grove this weekend one of the biggest things that clued me in on it being over was this. They only had one stand with a black or white shirt and a black and white hat. That was the only street outlaws merch at the entire venue.
Was boosted doing the commentary still?
That’s weird because murder nova showed his merch trailer there and so did Kye and a couple others in their weekend videos at Maple Grove
Buh Bye Discovery! The only reason I had the subscription was for SO, NPK, and street racing.
Discovery channel is super woke it was in the making they cutting ties with a lot shows
The first three races are being live streamed the fourth race is when the points start from then on Pilgrim will be filming the show
All will be Live stream from now on. When starts u can Stream from 4 Dif Cameras. Was There n Sucks
If street outlaws ends will you be covering another series of drag racing?
You should try to interview some guys "in the know" maybe pilgrim employee or ???? We need some trustable info
The biggest rumor why it was cancelled is the head of Warner Brother’s David Zaslav hates the show.
It’s crazy because there going to Canada next . Hard to believe they won’t make a show of that … but unfortunately the franchise over saturated the heck out of the street outlaws shows . There was just to many to keep up with and people lost interest
Street outlaws was becoming more of a drama show than racing ,started losing its appeal .
The fact that they're not on TV anymore does not signify the end of the world if you're a true fan of those guys you follow every single one of them and know exactly what they're doing so you're not missing anything actually you're getting more info than what TV gives you
Npk is Sam's baby no.matter what....I hope it at least continues to be a sanctioned racing series....do you really think the guys with contracts would still be showing up if there was no chance of there being a show
They didnt show up! 14 Drivers Total didnt come to PA. So doubt getting Paid Anymore so why they doubg TH-cam
A lot of drivers have dropped out this season
It has been said they will start recording the race after the 3rd when the points start
The thing is I believe every other time they have done the no points races they have still filmed them. Also a bunch of people are saying there is no tv contracts for the drivers anymore. I’m sure npk still pay the top guys but the direct tv money apparently is not there. Honestly I hope I am completely wrong with all of this but this is all I saw people talking about all weekend
Sim is Right & Moving to Streaming not TV.
The problem with not having the tv show is who is paying for the motors and cars.
Uh...the drivers do
There's some teams out there that do own businesses and they have good incomes like Robin Roberts for instance, that man has plenty of money and more than pretty much any of the rest of them and then there's those small teams that are like Bobby ducote and I don't know if he is self-employed or not but he works on transformers and he says money can get tired every now and then.. Shawn Ellington used to be self-employed as a underground power line contractor that laid some powerline for the power companies and I mean it wasn't no big business at all or anything but I'm sure he kept his bills paid and daddy Dave was a department of highways worker for the state of Oklahoma and usually those jobs don't pay too much money but I have a feeling some of these people might be having to go back to work, if he's contracts and stuff end with the TV shows
@@goldhunter9641 all of these guys make over 1 millon a year. Discovery hardly paid them....ITS THEIR OWN MONEY.......LMAO
Keep watching other live feeds. During the chip draw which is on TH-cam, Jen the blonde that always coordinated with the racers and I believe worked for Pilgrim. She was at the chip draw and after the races were announced went to Shawn and every driver and saying something. I think Pilgrim cut ties with Discovery but something is definitely up. Its possible the Dana White buying it theory or velocity, but the revenue these events pull in and popularity someone would puck it up. I suspect if Dana did buy it might be the best outcome, he knows everyone loves cars and racing! He probably could promote sooo much better and make it HUGE. Just like when everyone thought cage fighting was stupid now years later look what happened
When you purchase the tickets on the foat it does still say it’s being filmed for tv. Why the hell they aren’t airing last season is a mystery tho. I highly doubt if it’s over with. It still makes too much money
I still think Big Chief and Monza were very smart in the way they talked about things and Mom said that money will come to an end and yes it was the best money that most any of the teams were making and if those people weren't saving any of that income, they would deeply regret because the salaries that any of them have made so far up until last year isn't enough to support those high lifestyles and a retirement because too many of them drivers are way too young right now and spend that TV show money like it's going out of style when they should be banking that easy money and be planning on their futures ahead and especially for retirement time
For people like me who live in Australia, this news is shattering if the drivers don't film it or people i will never get to see it again
Netflix has bought the rights to the shows
For Real WHEN They Do This
Now it's time to treat it for what it is and that's the Major League's of no prep racing. Have a points payout for big and small tire and make it big so it encourages people to run the whole season.
There is probably a simple explanation like the show does not bring in as much viewers and money as it did before so they don't want it anymore. Plus we can watch the entire season on TH-cam a year early so that kills most of the hype. Another thing is watching video of a drag race is like 10% as exciting as watching it at the track in person.
I am thankful to the fans that travel and live stream from the stands so we can watch NPK races.
Discovery channel sucks. Call for a nation wide boycott of discovery
They Are filming in December Jeff Lutz showed the schedule
They're trying out running races with no TV's to see if it's profitable enough to cut the show off. The first 4 races mean nothing to the points.I don't know why people are going
Sim, now you're going to have to rename your streams to something different or cover something different like the no prep seen that's out there you use always talk about Ryan Mitchell
Discovery is not advertising anything street outlaws related for shows to air. They have goldrush, that mud show, several other types of shows but no street outlaws. I dont think its coming back.
I’m not surprised it has ran it’s course. Hopefully they will try something else. TTVE 👍😎✌️
So where can we watch the first race? I missed it in live feed??
Because they were tired of glorifying drug dealers and their toys
It’s going to be biblical of the up coming revelations
Guess you don’t listen to npk drivers why would they keep spending hundreds of thousands of dollars chasing something that won’t will air anywhere 🤷🏼♂️
My wife will be glad to hear that. Now she can cancel my dish services. SO was the only reason i kept it.
Reaper bought the show. You haven't heard from the race master??
Cappp
I think this could be a big pile of crap…. OR … if some of these drivers could put their egos aside and figure out how to work there social media departments together they all could be rolling in cash
The first thing they should do is higher you SIM ABCXYZ to be one of their main hype, men and track advisors
I knew it, by taking forever to air show was a hint.!!!
It's over. By halfway through the season people will get bored of 25 car firlds
They fukd up going to Australian, that was the worst spinoff 🤧
For all the ppl saying they never filmed the first race that didn’t have points, you’re wrong. They’ve always filmed every single race. Always
It’s all over the almighty dollar I’m sure, it sucks because that’s the only show that I enjoyed watching on 📺 for many years!!! Figures right
You also got to think about fans,merch and venues how long will people go or buy shirts and hats or want autographs from someone who isn’t on TV and venues spent a lot of money putting these on so there track was on TV to bring in fans and big ticket sales and food vendors sales. That’s all gone without a tv show.
Discovery channel is getting rid of all the automotive shows on its Channel
Not true they just bought motortrend and all there show and are now playing them on max and discovery plus
I wonder if the Cali Nate accident made them pull the plug? Two years in a row, someone on or affiliated with the show having that happen.
Cali Nate just died. This show has been done and in the can for months. Even the Ryan Fellows death wouldn't have an affect on this. NPK is done on a regular track. Not the street. This is just some executive that doesn't like racing.
Hopefully Netflix takes it
All will be Live Streamed now thru Them but idk how. Was good Race in PA (Sure u Know Details we Cant say) Now every1 doing TH-cam n Streaming now on. So Hope last season Airs Somewhere still
Big Chief is buying it 😂
Hey sim discovery is washing there hands with the street shows I think with the wrecks and lawsuits pretty much put the nial in the coffin. As always keep up the awesome work let's go ttve 💪 💯
Dana white is getting ready to buy npk
Swanstrom said some weeks are being filmed some are being live streamed
All the races are being live streamed, but not by Pilgram
You look like a grandfather with that shirt all buttoned up😂
If dana buys it production value will be shocking! Dana will probably speed up the times between each race or go 4 wide race track!
You hit the nail on the head as to one of the big reasons for Discovery to drop NPK at around 8 minutes into this video. Too many people recording / videoing and way too many TH-cam channels full of race content. This was one of the big starts to the ratings drop. Not to mention all the Discovery bad mouthing that the fans would do in the comments sections of said videos. So many fans would run to TH-cam to watch a condensed version of the event then praise the content author will disrespecting Discovery for dragging the races out for a 2 hr. tv show. This started a long time ago and now this is what we have left. That is as long as the tracks can turn enough profit to maintain. Maybe they should return to working a day job and street racing as they were doing prior to any cameras. While still involved, Chief made a comment years ago that there was way too much content popping up on TH-cam from fans with cameras and it was going to eventually hurt the ratings. The racers content at that time was just shop and test related.
Shit jumped the shark long ago.. about time.
Some or most drivers get paid. We havent lost any drivers so someone is paying them still
Pilgrim Media Group has a few lawsuits going on. I dunno!!
stupid move by pilgrim or discovery to cut street outlaws for putting that stupid mud madness....
They don’t want to play street outlaws but they’re playing that junk show contraband? Crazy. I think there’s more to it.
Rumor is Dana White is getting involved in season 2024 that’s what Sean is saying.
This is a great opportunity for someone to start a TH-cam show at NPK.
I watch all the NPK shows on Utube. All the thrills and spills 🫣
I don't have Discovery 🎉
@@terrybarker4472 So do I but there's not a show. It's just video from Upshift
If Discovery doesn't show Street Outlaws anymore I have decided not to watch anything made and shown on Discovery after 2023.
I'll just enjoy the old stuff like I used to and move on.😢 😡 To hell with Discovery they can keep their Mud Madness and other new CRAP also. Dirty scoundrels!!!!
And you gotta remember they’ve changed the way they film not necessarily they have the big cameras there anymore. They put together videos off of everybody else’s GoPro just everybody has a TH-cam channel and they just place together or show.
And I’m assuming filming will start by race 4 since that is the start of the points race.
Instead of being called Street Outlaws No Prep King's. It should be called something else. Since they are not racing anymore on the street. They won't be filming on the streets anymore due to a serious accident that was filmed on the show. But it was removed when they aired it. Pilgrim Studio couldn't reach a deal with the cast of Street Outlaw's. They all wanted more $$$$$.
Been with them from the very beginning show. Big fan but not crazy fan. I always look forward to each episode. Hate it but maybe someone will buy it.
If you have noticed with Discovery Channel they are getting the whip cracked on them now over a lot of their shows contain a lot of content that really by law isn't very legal and to keep themselves out of hot water I believe that's why you're not seeing a lot of activity with the racing right now but they are going to start filming starting on the 4th NPK race.. Street outlaws isn't the only show that probably going to get scaled way back or maybe cut out completely but the moonshiners will probably be the next show that gets the hatchet because they're now having to do a disclaimer at the beginning of those shows saying it's illegal don't do it at home and it is dangerous and can take your life and for no one to try that stuff at home... I believe they're going to film the shows and they're going to put the stuff on Discovery plus only to where you have to pay to be able to watch them and the live streaming will still keep taking place even when they're filming
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Once Chief left ratings started to drop. Intially ratings were okay for shows like Memphis and npk. But JJ just rubs a lot of people the wrong way. Then the lawsuit was the nail in coffin for all the street racing shows on discovery. In my opinion Npk grew to fast for its own good. Growth is good and inevitable over time. With all the rules it turned into a no prep nrha and lost it'srawness. A lot of Og Racers left because they don't have a high dollar program. Yet small tire guys are making a living off TH-cam now. It's because it's what interests people like the og 405 show once did.
Well that just got all my discovery apps cancelled 😕
it wasnt a point race... first three races arent part of the season for the championship.
Boycot discovery like they did bud light. Make discovery lose money. They wouldn't be anything if it was not for the watchers
I’m so glad that they came to Australia well some of them but we are only seeing it now on cable channels so far behind you guys
I think there was a lot leading up to this and people die while racing on the road because there is no one regulating the safety of the road down to the cars themselves is a bigger problem because of other who don’t have the same equipment and it makes it dangerous. It is unfortunate that it had to come to this though especially the track stuff not airing
If it goes PPV itll be DOA