To be honest I skipped through a fair bit of the video (mostly because I'm really familier with these kinds of units, having a similar one myself) One big point I didn't catch you covering (though I might have missed it) is safety! These sorts of lasers are very VERY good at blinding you, as well as being invisible to the eye. the multiple-surface reflected light is plenty enough to damage your eyes permanently. It should also be said that the glasses included are often not certified or garenteed to be safe. I strongly recommend purchasing a pair of 1064nm certified laser safety goggles that fully cover your eyes if you plan to run it without a full enclosure + safety window certified windows / goggles are NOT cheap, but worth it to avoid the risk of getting blinded. Other then that, I really look forwards to seeing what you get up to with the unit!
This is my main issue with this. "Its industrial" "This is much more commercial" It's a health and safety nightmare, that's a 50W laser with zero protection beyond a single pair of glasses.
@@lmaoroflcopterJust because something's 'industrial' does not mean it's inherently 100% safe. If you look at industrial fiber lasers, most are open frame such as this. They do sell an enclosure with a safety interlock, but for some reason, most of them are used without. If using in a commercial environment, proper safety precautions should be taken. But this is the case with ANY power tool in a workplace. Proper PE should always be mandated. I cannot comment on WHY most fibers are like this, but this is the standard form factor for most commercial/industrial lasers.
Great video! These lasers are an absolute blast to work with. I just made a review on my channel a short while back on Cloudray's 60W MOPA version of this machine.
Well... It's a $5,000 device and is a keeper unit - so they practically payed you with it. But, take no offense. Your reviews are always unbiased, informative and you're a likeable guy - and I'd say "heck yeah, send me that thing!", if someone would offer it, too. That doesn't mean, the you're putting out a biased video.
Oh yeah, 100%. Just about anyone would take a $5K laser if it was given to them. But I do turn down at least a few requests every week. I make sure I only review stuff that I would spend my own money on.
@@RobertCowanDIY And that's exactly what I like about your channel. You could fire up some video about this every weekday and even go out with a profit, if you sell those units afterwards. But I know, everything I see on your channel has at least some tingle to it for me. Not everything is a buy - but at least it's not a no go. It's important for maneuvering around on a budget. There's just to many offerings of manufacturers nobody ever heard of. And let's be clear: Laser gear is cool AF for every maker every time. I don't mind you taking the offer to review and keep that thing. Hell, I wouldn't even mind, If you took all the offers. I'd take every single one and stack a supply of fiber laser sources and galvos in my shed.
Can you do a 6 month review on how it's holding up please or just reply here I want to buy this machine for gun marking and Etching. Just hoping it's holding up and if software is user friendly.
I have noticed these open format fiber engravers becoming much more common lately as the price comes down, is it not a fairly large health hazard to be using these without any kind of extraction around? I would think vaporized metal would be not great to breathe, and I don't think I've ever seen any of them include fans or enclosures. Is there something about these or this setup style that I'm missing that makes it a non-issue?
Ideally you would have some sort of extraction running. I think they're made to be flexible, it depends on the type of thing you're engraving, so they leave them open. For instance, maybe you're doing a bike frame or something like that. You would make a jig that accommodates the part, and have an air extraction system setup for that particular job.
That makes sense. Do you have any recommendations for a good extraction system to go along with a laser like this? I only have experience with enclosed machines
I noticed watching your video that you have correction files for deferent lenses, which ones do you have? Also when you where doing your engraving you mention the presets / profiles who many does it come with?
I'm not sure what you're asking? I use the correction file for the lens I have, the F290 I believe. You just use the correction file for the lens you have installed. The machine comes with no presets, that's why I have the section about adding your own parameters. I haven't see any fiber lasers that come with pre-defined parameters.
@@RobertCowanDIY Hi. at 16:34 into you video you mention and show the location of the correction file, it looks like there are a number of correction files in the folder you are looking at, it's a bit to blurry to see the file names but they all look to be called something similar. Did you create the correction file or was it supplied by Cloudray?
@@precisionlasersolutions7996All the files you saw were included on the USB stick that comes with the machine. You don't need to create your own correction file. Different correction files are used for different focal length lenses. You just select the right correction file for the particular machine you purchased.
These really skeeve me out because all I can think is one stray reflection from a laser with that tight a beam (lacking a tight convergence point) is all it takes for your most exciting day to be a new audiobook drop. I guess I just aorta expect something like this to operate in something that completely encloses and can take the force of the laser or for the laser to be focused in such a way that it disperses after just a few feet. I also might just be a massive puss tho, so ymmv
Lasers are dangerous, for sure. But the number of incidents is surprisingly low. Table saws are still king for ruining someone's day. They do make enclosure for this and it comes with glasses. If you follow a few simple steps, it's as safe as any other tool in the shop, when properly used.
I dont get it. What is the market here? Its professional grade, but has absolutely zero laser protection other than a single pair of glasses. What do other people do on the business floor when this thing is running? Just close their eyes? This is a class 4 laser. Okay if its hobbiest grade, makes sense it might be in an open enclosure (though still isn't great) that the only protection they provide is a single set of glasses, but its horrendous from an OSHA/HSE perspective for a small business.
I always think professional grade on a product like this just means traditionally pro capabilities at hobbyist adjacent prices. I will say the lack of safety on lasers especially always skeeves me out though.
Just because something is 'industrial' does not mean it's inherently safe. In fact, most industrial machines are much more dangerous, because they're more powerful. From an OSHA standpoint, there are rules here. The same thing goes for ladders, hammers, saws, knives, etc. They sell an enclosure. Along with the foot pedal switch, glasses, an enclosure and written procedures, it absolutely fits into a small business. It's strange to think you envision this machine just out in the open around other personnel. At my company, we have the laser machine in its own room.
If you look into the brand a bit deeper, they sell an enclosure for it, to both protect you from the laser and to assist in the extraction of the fumes.@@BeefIngot
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To be honest I skipped through a fair bit of the video (mostly because I'm really familier with these kinds of units, having a similar one myself) One big point I didn't catch you covering (though I might have missed it) is safety!
These sorts of lasers are very VERY good at blinding you, as well as being invisible to the eye. the multiple-surface reflected light is plenty enough to damage your eyes permanently. It should also be said that the glasses included are often not certified or garenteed to be safe. I strongly recommend purchasing a pair of 1064nm certified laser safety goggles that fully cover your eyes if you plan to run it without a full enclosure + safety window certified windows / goggles are NOT cheap, but worth it to avoid the risk of getting blinded.
Other then that, I really look forwards to seeing what you get up to with the unit!
It includes glasses, they are safe and I was using them. But it's always a good idea to keep safety in mind.
This is my main issue with this.
"Its industrial"
"This is much more commercial"
It's a health and safety nightmare, that's a 50W laser with zero protection beyond a single pair of glasses.
And how about other people/children/pets that goes into your shop, when the Laser is working?
@@avejstI have a door I lock.
@@lmaoroflcopterJust because something's 'industrial' does not mean it's inherently 100% safe. If you look at industrial fiber lasers, most are open frame such as this. They do sell an enclosure with a safety interlock, but for some reason, most of them are used without. If using in a commercial environment, proper safety precautions should be taken. But this is the case with ANY power tool in a workplace. Proper PE should always be mandated. I cannot comment on WHY most fibers are like this, but this is the standard form factor for most commercial/industrial lasers.
Great video! These lasers are an absolute blast to work with. I just made a review on my channel a short while back on Cloudray's 60W MOPA version of this machine.
Nice! I want a MOPA, but I need to get familiar with this one and start learning and using it more.
how’s life?! that is epic uploading~ :))
life is pretty decent. busy, but good!
Very very nice machine..
Yeah, it really is. It will have a permanent home in my shop for sure.
Well... It's a $5,000 device and is a keeper unit - so they practically payed you with it. But, take no offense. Your reviews are always unbiased, informative and you're a likeable guy - and I'd say "heck yeah, send me that thing!", if someone would offer it, too. That doesn't mean, the you're putting out a biased video.
Oh yeah, 100%. Just about anyone would take a $5K laser if it was given to them. But I do turn down at least a few requests every week. I make sure I only review stuff that I would spend my own money on.
@@RobertCowanDIY And that's exactly what I like about your channel. You could fire up some video about this every weekday and even go out with a profit, if you sell those units afterwards. But I know, everything I see on your channel has at least some tingle to it for me. Not everything is a buy - but at least it's not a no go. It's important for maneuvering around on a budget. There's just to many offerings of manufacturers nobody ever heard of. And let's be clear: Laser gear is cool AF for every maker every time. I don't mind you taking the offer to review and keep that thing. Hell, I wouldn't even mind, If you took all the offers. I'd take every single one and stack a supply of fiber laser sources and galvos in my shed.
“Please consider susbscribing”?! 😆 Making my eye twitch with that! Nice review - I don’t need a fiber laser, but I absolutely want one! 😎🤓
Ha, I gotta play the game sometimes right?
@@RobertCowanDIY What is it called when a typo has been laser engraved? A burno? An etcho? 😆
@@joedog86'forced engagement'. thanks for the comments ;-)
Can you do a 6 month review on how it's holding up please or just reply here I want to buy this machine for gun marking and Etching. Just hoping it's holding up and if software is user friendly.
I have noticed these open format fiber engravers becoming much more common lately as the price comes down, is it not a fairly large health hazard to be using these without any kind of extraction around? I would think vaporized metal would be not great to breathe, and I don't think I've ever seen any of them include fans or enclosures. Is there something about these or this setup style that I'm missing that makes it a non-issue?
Ideally you would have some sort of extraction running. I think they're made to be flexible, it depends on the type of thing you're engraving, so they leave them open. For instance, maybe you're doing a bike frame or something like that. You would make a jig that accommodates the part, and have an air extraction system setup for that particular job.
That makes sense. Do you have any recommendations for a good extraction system to go along with a laser like this? I only have experience with enclosed machines
@@Trainwreck1123I like my Gweike: th-cam.com/video/fohTiA8raVQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=mgBp0Sx_Ul39DAhN
Nice review. I need a fiber laser.
'need'? ;-)
I do have one project where it would be mighty handy...
@@JonathanRansomyeah? care to share?
I need to engrave some padlocks.
I noticed watching your video that you have correction files for deferent lenses, which ones do you have?
Also when you where doing your engraving you mention the presets / profiles who many does it come with?
I'm not sure what you're asking? I use the correction file for the lens I have, the F290 I believe. You just use the correction file for the lens you have installed. The machine comes with no presets, that's why I have the section about adding your own parameters. I haven't see any fiber lasers that come with pre-defined parameters.
@@RobertCowanDIY Hi. at 16:34 into you video you mention and show the location of the correction file, it looks like there are a number of correction files in the folder you are looking at, it's a bit to blurry to see the file names but they all look to be called something similar. Did you create the correction file or was it supplied by Cloudray?
@@precisionlasersolutions7996All the files you saw were included on the USB stick that comes with the machine. You don't need to create your own correction file. Different correction files are used for different focal length lenses. You just select the right correction file for the particular machine you purchased.
Hi is there any chance you can share the correction files?
@@precisionlasersolutions7996I'm really curious why you need the correction file since it comes with the machines?
Another nice video m8 but you have to look for dictionary library too for that laser :)
eh? I don't understand, care to explain?
@@RobertCowanDIY :D "susbscribing" - this laser need grammar library too :D
@@huntliba all engagement is good engagement :-)
Is QS a good type?
Compare with Qb
I'm not familiar with the Qb? I really like the QS-50 though.
QS is just a series name of cloudray, and the laser it uses is 50QB
Can I request a fog machine video so we can see the laser?
Huh, interesting idea
These really skeeve me out because all I can think is one stray reflection from a laser with that tight a beam (lacking a tight convergence point) is all it takes for your most exciting day to be a new audiobook drop.
I guess I just aorta expect something like this to operate in something that completely encloses and can take the force of the laser or for the laser to be focused in such a way that it disperses after just a few feet.
I also might just be a massive puss tho, so ymmv
Lasers are dangerous, for sure. But the number of incidents is surprisingly low. Table saws are still king for ruining someone's day. They do make enclosure for this and it comes with glasses. If you follow a few simple steps, it's as safe as any other tool in the shop, when properly used.
I dont get it. What is the market here? Its professional grade, but has absolutely zero laser protection other than a single pair of glasses.
What do other people do on the business floor when this thing is running? Just close their eyes? This is a class 4 laser.
Okay if its hobbiest grade, makes sense it might be in an open enclosure (though still isn't great) that the only protection they provide is a single set of glasses, but its horrendous from an OSHA/HSE perspective for a small business.
I always think professional grade on a product like this just means traditionally pro capabilities at hobbyist adjacent prices.
I will say the lack of safety on lasers especially always skeeves me out though.
Just because something is 'industrial' does not mean it's inherently safe. In fact, most industrial machines are much more dangerous, because they're more powerful. From an OSHA standpoint, there are rules here. The same thing goes for ladders, hammers, saws, knives, etc. They sell an enclosure. Along with the foot pedal switch, glasses, an enclosure and written procedures, it absolutely fits into a small business. It's strange to think you envision this machine just out in the open around other personnel. At my company, we have the laser machine in its own room.
If you look into the brand a bit deeper, they sell an enclosure for it, to both protect you from the laser and to assist in the extraction of the fumes.@@BeefIngot
Beefy. Very beefy.
It's a fun machine.
Question
Can you do 1 on 1 with people that wanna Learn.
nope, sorry. I spend enough time making these videos.