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Excellent information. This is why people should hire a legit forester to mark their trees for harvest and not blindly trust a logging company. The forester works for you to achieve your goals for your woods. The logging company is there to make the maximum money from your harvest.
Great video, I like the format! Was actually going to comment that the background looked nice. The lifetime membership is on my wishlist, I'll get it soon enough! :)
Interesting perspective. I knew about high grading but never thought about it in terms of the financials. Something else to consider with high grading is in my situation it let a bunch of invasives thrive dramatically changing the dynamics of the forest. Now there's a proliferation of undesirable species. My DNR forester said to manage a forest from the ground up. Meaning, deal with the invasives before harvest to avoid what I now have is a management crisis.
Absolutely that can be a problem depending on your region. Where I am from, partial harvesting is strongly associated with an influx of beech and associated beech bark disease, which requires special considerations. "Managing from the ground up" is good advice.
@ Muscle wood and ironwood are my problem. Both spread like crazy. I have a bunch of maple saplings about 6” tall and just need light but these trees outgrow and out compete the maples.
Like the way you did this video. Totally get it. Here in my area of the west coast we have a different take on thinning/ selective cutting. For the most part we have always taken the smallest and those of poorest form. Makes for expensive logging but pays huge dividends in the end. We also almost always do a clearcut to harvest the large trees. It’s nice to not have to deal with the all the small stuff and makes for cheap harvest when the landowner is getting the most. There again fun to see the difference between east coast and west coast. You really need to come out and see the difference’s for yourself.
On my land we harvested entirely our smallest trees to build our cabin with. Mainly because my wife and I cant physically move and build with trees over a foot ir two in diameter lol
Thanks for all the great videos! Personally, I am watching all of these videos because I am looking to run a timber plantation silvopasture system. I am planning on planting from scratch for the most part, but also thinking about forest land which I can convert over to my system. I just mention this because, maybe, it could help with some ideas for future videos on your channel!
Thank you for this very interesting and informative video. I really appreciate it. I'm a recently graduated forestry technician. Kind regards from Iceland 💜💛💜💜
Very clear explanation. This format works well for conveying concepts of sivliculture. We're trying to balance selection (harvesting for timber stand improvement) for form and species with maintaining/improving conditions (e.g. canopy) for promoting next generation growth, so this video was helpful. Thanks.
good format. im impressed by your knowledge of both calculus and forestry. i think some other factors to consider are the risk of emerald ash borers and gypsy moths, wildfire, beavers, syrup tapping, and of course windstorms
There is another downside. My largest trees are too heavy for my machines to move efficiently, so there is a lot of extra labour and machine time to deal with them. Profitability is worse than for optimal sized smaller trees.
A big/strong man will usually have big/strong children but a small/weak man will usually have small/weak children. If you let someone harvest your big/strong trees and only leave you small/weak trees then you will forever be limited to a forest of small/weak trees.
Another issue is that a large diameter tree with small growth rings, isn't necessarily growing slowly. Think about how you could wrap a 100' tall tapered column with that thickness of growth rings. It's in the same footprint as the tiny small diameter tree with very large growth rings. A larger tree can be putting on a lot of volume in timber and firewood, and it only appears to be growing slower. Thinking of extremes. A Redwood with a growth ring of only the thickness of 10 sheets of paper, may be a greater volume than when it was putting on quarter inch or half inch wide rings, when it was a small diameter.
It's 14F, so I'm stuck inside too! I greatly appreciate this video in particular because it answered a lot of questions I was struggling to learn how to ask. I had gut feeling that there was a more sophisticated way to decide which trees to take but the tiers really clarified it. Thank You. Coming from machine maintenance these are the types of analysis that make sense to me - ROI, categorization, and lifetime considerations. Your application of these principles is a very fresh and welcome interpretation of forestry management. Looking forward to each and every layer of your shared journey "back" to small scale management!
thats juggling with numbers. Any rigidly applied method is unsuitable. One has to look at every situation individually. in general, there a so many more factors to be considered. A forest is a complex organism.
Its complex, but not that complex. More importantly, a forest is anything but fragile, so distilling things down into general rules goes a long way if those rules point in the right direction. Many in the industry would disagree with that, of course, but if those people were all to walk a given acre together, they'd likely come up with radically different courses of action, which calls into question the entire practice and methodology.
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Excellent information. This is why people should hire a legit forester to mark their trees for harvest and not blindly trust a logging company. The forester works for you to achieve your goals for your woods. The logging company is there to make the maximum money from your harvest.
One should also consider mother trees. Your best trees can spawn many generations while acting as an interest-bearing savings account.
Thumbs up.
always enjoy your seemingly-counter-intuitive perspective on things!
Great video, I like the format! Was actually going to comment that the background looked nice.
The lifetime membership is on my wishlist, I'll get it soon enough! :)
Interesting perspective. I knew about high grading but never thought about it in terms of the financials. Something else to consider with high grading is in my situation it let a bunch of invasives thrive dramatically changing the dynamics of the forest. Now there's a proliferation of undesirable species. My DNR forester said to manage a forest from the ground up. Meaning, deal with the invasives before harvest to avoid what I now have is a management crisis.
Absolutely that can be a problem depending on your region. Where I am from, partial harvesting is strongly associated with an influx of beech and associated beech bark disease, which requires special considerations. "Managing from the ground up" is good advice.
@ Muscle wood and ironwood are my problem. Both spread like crazy. I have a bunch of maple saplings about 6” tall and just need light but these trees outgrow and out compete the maples.
Like the way you did this video. Totally get it.
Here in my area of the west coast we have a different take on thinning/ selective cutting. For the most part we have always taken the smallest and those of poorest form. Makes for expensive logging but pays huge dividends in the end. We also almost always do a clearcut to harvest the large trees. It’s nice to not have to deal with the all the small stuff and makes for cheap harvest when the landowner is getting the most.
There again fun to see the difference between east coast and west coast. You really need to come out and see the difference’s for yourself.
A 30-in tree that’s super crooked isn’t pulp wood if Home Depot has anything to say about it.
Excellent content. I appreciate your thoughtful presentation with the visual aids.
On my land we harvested entirely our smallest trees to build our cabin with.
Mainly because my wife and I cant physically move and build with trees over a foot ir two in diameter lol
Thanks for all the great videos!
Personally, I am watching all of these videos because I am looking to run a timber plantation silvopasture system. I am planning on planting from scratch for the most part, but also thinking about forest land which I can convert over to my system. I just mention this because, maybe, it could help with some ideas for future videos on your channel!
Thank you for this very interesting and informative video.
I really appreciate it.
I'm a recently graduated forestry technician.
Kind regards from Iceland
💜💛💜💜
Very interesting, getting me motivated to learn more about my woods.
Such a great video. As an up and coming forester I always love learning from you. Thanks for all the great content - keep it up!!
High grading sets you back generations 🌲
Excellent video content! I love listening and learning from your expertise.
Very clear explanation. This format works well for conveying concepts of sivliculture.
We're trying to balance selection (harvesting for timber stand improvement) for form and species with maintaining/improving conditions (e.g. canopy) for promoting next generation growth, so this video was helpful.
Thanks.
good format. im impressed by your knowledge of both calculus and forestry. i think some other factors to consider are the risk of emerald ash borers and gypsy moths, wildfire, beavers, syrup tapping, and of course windstorms
There is another downside.
My largest trees are too heavy for my machines to move efficiently, so there is a lot of extra labour and machine time to deal with them.
Profitability is worse than for optimal sized smaller trees.
Yeah, there is definitely a diminishing return that starts to become negative after 20 inches or so depending on machine size.
A big/strong man will usually have big/strong children but a small/weak man will usually have small/weak children. If you let someone harvest your big/strong trees and only leave you small/weak trees then you will forever be limited to a forest of small/weak trees.
You should do one on third party certification!!
I enjoyed the format. Filming outside is nice, but not a must.
Good stuff! Thanks!
Another issue is that a large diameter tree with small growth rings, isn't necessarily growing slowly.
Think about how you could wrap a 100' tall tapered column with that thickness of growth rings.
It's in the same footprint as the tiny small diameter tree with very large growth rings.
A larger tree can be putting on a lot of volume in timber and firewood, and it only appears to be growing slower.
Thinking of extremes.
A Redwood with a growth ring of only the thickness of 10 sheets of paper, may be a greater volume than when it was putting on quarter inch or half inch wide rings, when it was a small diameter.
good stuff
When you can it would be helpful to see an example
Cool.
about coppicing borders ? (from france)
It's 14F, so I'm stuck inside too!
I greatly appreciate this video in particular because it answered a lot of questions I was struggling to learn how to ask. I had gut feeling that there was a more sophisticated way to decide which trees to take but the tiers really clarified it. Thank You.
Coming from machine maintenance these are the types of analysis that make sense to me - ROI, categorization, and lifetime considerations. Your application of these principles is a very fresh and welcome interpretation of forestry management. Looking forward to each and every layer of your shared journey "back" to small scale management!
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thats juggling with numbers. Any rigidly applied method is unsuitable. One has to look at every situation individually.
in general, there a so many more factors to be considered. A forest is a complex organism.
Its complex, but not that complex. More importantly, a forest is anything but fragile, so distilling things down into general rules goes a long way if those rules point in the right direction. Many in the industry would disagree with that, of course, but if those people were all to walk a given acre together, they'd likely come up with radically different courses of action, which calls into question the entire practice and methodology.