Thanks so much for posting this video. I had a spring in my VV-XI-A break and after watching your rebuild videos, was able to replace the broken spring and tune up my motor at 1/10th of what a "professional" wanted to charge to do the exact same thing! Great advice on removing the springs. I'm so glad I was able to watch you do it, first. I had no problems at all. Thanks again!
Can't thank you enough for this series of videos, I just rebuilt my VV-90 (S/N: 67596) this weekend and it sounds great. Hope to come across another that I can refurbish in the future. What a great piece of functional history to own and enjoy.
Outstanding "How to" series of videos! We are shown how to disassemble the motor, with excellent close-up shots, with the functions of all the parts explained. I have overhauled several Victor motors, with great results and performance. Thanks again, you are providing a very valuable service to phonograph collectors.
This is very nice of you to put these uploads together, One more reason why TH-cam can be so helpful, one can appreciate, find learning tips and help from concise instructional videos such as yours. VERY cool.Thank you for these!
Nice set of videos. I have the older (Circa 1904) 2-spring motor from a Victor III, each spring housed in its own barrel. Also, mine has no speed indicator. I may need to replace the turntable spindle as it has a slight wobble, seemingly from a slight bend in the shaft. Motor was disassembled, cleaned and calibrated recently so no urgency to disassemble it right now.
One thing... I couldn't pry the lid off the spring barrel no matter how hard I tried. I ended up using a small wooden dowel (chopstick, actually) and inserted it in from the "bottom" hole and used it to push the lid off from the inside. Might be helpful for someone else who has trouble opening the barrel.
Cool! I have to go back and do some work on restoring the Spring Motor of my Victor Orthophonic 8-4, because my had two barrels of 2-spring motors, and that makes it 4. When I was playing, it went thump while the machine is running. I'll do the same like he did in the video.
Thanks so much, It was very simple and much less intimidating than it might have been. My springs were bent back into a hook at the end and there were mating hooks inside the barrel. Was this a later design? Also my machine does not have the speed gauge.
i have a victrola vv2-55 and i can't find the clip to open the spring barrel lid. the closest thing to a clip is where the teeth is attached to the barrel. there are what i believe to be rivets holding the gear and the barrel together. please help!
Trying to get the ball bearing out of the arm, any suggestions on one that doesn't want to come out? The rest of my rebuild is going very well just waiting on screws for the Governor. Am cleaning the Governor and worm gear, but cant get the main worm gear ball bearing out.
+Adam Rogers I have experienced a few stubborn ball bearings in the past as well. Keep soaking it in the cleaner...overnight if necessary. With a straight pin (sewing needle) you should scrape around the edges of the bearing in the hole. Also with the straight pin you can check to make sure the bearing is still in there. You will feel the hump of the bearing with the straight pin.. I've had a few fall out during cleaning and didn't know it. If you still can't get it out just make sure it is still there, clean the area as best as you can, oil and grease it and re-assemble as is.
I have a vtg Brunswick Balke Collender phonograph motor and it seems to be very similar to this but slightly different. I am having trouble removing the wind and drive gear split shafts from the barrel. I'm curious if you have any suggestions? They seem to be somewhat loose, but when I try to pull them out of the center of the barrel it seems as if they are attached to the spring in some way. I don't see any way of detaching the shafts from the spring. I would appreciate any tips you think I could try. Thanks,
+Sqwince23 Sorry. I've never done a Brunswick. You might try asking the guys at the talking machine forum. forum.talkingmachine.info/index.php Put plenty of pictures in your post for them and include the model & serial numbers in your post.
I’m cleaning up a three spring XVI motor and the second casing’s retaining clip is stuck. I’ve tried everything I can think of involving a flathead screwdriver. The two ends meet nearly perfectly. Any advice?
Is it possible to over wind the spring motor? I have a similar victrola and the wind mech just keeps spinning. Is it possible it came off the inside riviet?
It is possible. I know this comment is very old, but I feel obliged to reply. What you experienced is one of two things. One possibility is a broken spring. The other is a slipped spring. Both are equally prevalent. A slipped spring is a spring that has bent to the point that it keeps slipping off of the arbor on the shaft. To fix this, you would have to bend the end of the spring that wraps around the shaft inward so it catches on the hook on the shaft. If it's broken, it warrants a total replacement, unless it's broken towards the outside of the barrel only a little ways beyond where it hooks to the inside of the barrel. Then it can be fixed. Brett Hurt here on TH-cam has some fantastic repair videos detailing how to achieve this. His channel is called dyslexicgeniushurt. By now I'm sure you've had this problem solved. But if not, here's some info for you.
I have a 1912 model victor VV-II. The spring housing has two barrels and all the gears are on one side. I cannot figure out how to get into it. Are there ant tutorials out there for this model.
Thank you for the great videos. Very helpful and informative.
Muchas gracias
Thanks so much for posting this video. I had a spring in my VV-XI-A break and after watching your rebuild videos, was able to replace the broken spring and tune up my motor at 1/10th of what a "professional" wanted to charge to do the exact same thing!
Great advice on removing the springs. I'm so glad I was able to watch you do it, first. I had no problems at all.
Thanks again!
Can't thank you enough for this series of videos, I just rebuilt my VV-90 (S/N: 67596) this weekend and it sounds great. Hope to come across another that I can refurbish in the future. What a great piece of functional history to own and enjoy.
I am watching through the entire series this morning!
Outstanding "How to" series of videos! We are shown how to disassemble the motor, with excellent close-up shots, with the functions of all the parts explained. I have overhauled several Victor motors, with great results and performance. Thanks again, you are providing a very valuable service to phonograph collectors.
This is very nice of you to put these uploads together,
One more reason why TH-cam can be so helpful, one can appreciate, find learning tips and help from concise instructional videos such as yours. VERY cool.Thank you for these!
So helpful...It's my first time doing this style motor
THANKS!
I figured it out. Just had to split the barrel apart first then was able to detach the shafts from the spring. Thanks for the quick reply!
Excellent explanations. Very helpful.
Nice set of videos. I have the older (Circa 1904) 2-spring motor from a Victor III, each spring housed in its own barrel. Also, mine has no speed indicator. I may need to replace the turntable spindle as it has a slight wobble, seemingly from a slight bend in the shaft. Motor was disassembled, cleaned and calibrated recently so no urgency to disassemble it right now.
Thanx sir this is very useful
One thing... I couldn't pry the lid off the spring barrel no matter how hard I tried. I ended up using a small wooden dowel (chopstick, actually) and inserted it in from the "bottom" hole and used it to push the lid off from the inside.
Might be helpful for someone else who has trouble opening the barrel.
Cool! I have to go back and do some work on restoring the Spring Motor of my Victor Orthophonic 8-4, because my had two barrels of 2-spring motors, and that makes it 4. When I was playing, it went thump while the machine is running. I'll do the same like he did in the video.
Thanks so much, It was very simple and much less intimidating than it might have been. My springs were bent back into a hook at the end and there were mating hooks inside the barrel. Was this a later design? Also my machine does not have the speed gauge.
What do you do if you lost the ball bearing for the spinning arm?
i have a victrola vv2-55 and i can't find the clip to open the spring barrel lid. the closest thing to a clip is where the teeth is attached to the barrel. there are what i believe to be rivets holding the gear and the barrel together. please help!
Trying to get the ball bearing out of the arm, any suggestions on one that doesn't want to come out? The rest of my rebuild is going very well just waiting on screws for the Governor. Am cleaning the Governor and worm gear, but cant get the main worm gear ball bearing out.
+Adam Rogers I have experienced a few stubborn ball bearings in the past as well. Keep soaking it in the cleaner...overnight if necessary. With a straight pin (sewing needle) you should scrape around the edges of the bearing in the hole. Also with the straight pin you can check to make sure the bearing is still in there. You will feel the hump of the bearing with the straight pin.. I've had a few fall out during cleaning and didn't know it. If you still can't get it out just make sure it is still there, clean the area as best as you can, oil and grease it and re-assemble as is.
I have the same model from 1916 and it has 2 barrels.
I have restored one 130 model
I have a vtg Brunswick Balke Collender phonograph motor and it seems to be very similar to this but slightly different. I am having trouble removing the wind and drive gear split shafts from the barrel. I'm curious if you have any suggestions? They seem to be somewhat loose, but when I try to pull them out of the center of the barrel it seems as if they are attached to the spring in some way. I don't see any way of detaching the shafts from the spring. I would appreciate any tips you think I could try.
Thanks,
+Sqwince23 Sorry. I've never done a Brunswick. You might try asking the guys at the talking machine forum.
forum.talkingmachine.info/index.php
Put plenty of pictures in your post for them and include the model & serial numbers in your post.
I’m cleaning up a three spring XVI motor and the second casing’s retaining clip is stuck. I’ve tried everything I can think of involving a flathead screwdriver. The two ends meet nearly perfectly. Any advice?
Is it possible to over wind the spring motor? I have a similar victrola and the wind mech just keeps spinning. Is it possible it came off the inside riviet?
It is possible. I know this comment is very old, but I feel obliged to reply. What you experienced is one of two things. One possibility is a broken spring. The other is a slipped spring. Both are equally prevalent. A slipped spring is a spring that has bent to the point that it keeps slipping off of the arbor on the shaft. To fix this, you would have to bend the end of the spring that wraps around the shaft inward so it catches on the hook on the shaft. If it's broken, it warrants a total replacement, unless it's broken towards the outside of the barrel only a little ways beyond where it hooks to the inside of the barrel. Then it can be fixed. Brett Hurt here on TH-cam has some fantastic repair videos detailing how to achieve this. His channel is called dyslexicgeniushurt. By now I'm sure you've had this problem solved. But if not, here's some info for you.
Baily DenHouten thank you
I have a 1912 model victor VV-II. The spring housing has two barrels and all the gears are on one side. I cannot figure out how to get into it. Are there ant tutorials out there for this model.
I need a ball bearing for VV-Xla spindal. Can anyone help me?
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