I don't understand why both producers can't let Bond go and find a new way forward. Especially Barbara Broccoli seems to be making very odd decisions (or not doing anything at all). I do hope that they find Bond proper new 'management' - thankfully the company is under Amazon and not Disney.
They need to find another John Glen and give him a 3-4 film contract. They need to make the films about Bond and his missions and not Bond and his emotional problems.
This is exactly what they should do, but they won't. Exploring Bond's emotional life, even though it was handled with almost no nuance for the most part, has gotten EON showered with accolades throughout Craig's tenure. Barbara successfully broke free from her father's image of pumping out 'disposable' popcorn entertainment, and successfully made a name for herself in the industry for eschewing what came before. I wholeheartedly believe EON deem making 'classic' style Bond films beneath them now - they got a taste of rightfully earned critical praise with Casino, but this led to 15+ years of misplaced smugness; the wheels gradually falling off with each successive awful creative decision sanctioned. Now, I don't think they see a path forward. They made Blofeld his brother, they made him resign every film, they made him fall deeply in love twice in less than a ten year period, they made him a daddy, then they killed him. What the hell else is there to delve into? The only logical decision is to return to making actual Bond films, not this embarrassing car crash of a $300+ million dollar soap opera. But how can they when it's granted them such status among their industry peers? So they're stuck between what they perceive to be a rock and a hard place, even though the 'rock' in question is Cubby and Harry's legacy, aka the dependable bedrock that was 1962-2002.
I agree about the missions being important to refreshing the franchise. Perhaps it's a bit formulaic at this point, but they should consider Martin Campbell for the comeback film with a new bond since he's so good at doing it.
Definitely need to find ONE director to stick around for several movies like John Glen did. This crap of switching directors for every movie needs to stop.
@@stuffedsheepshead I agree completely with this. I think they were even surprised themselves at the massive success of Skyfall - the only Bond to make over billion dollars by a considerable margin. With Spectre and NTTD, they have been trying to chase that success by cherry picking a part of Skyfall (its emotion) and turning it up to 11 at the expense of some of the core aspects of the Bond franchise. Before Craig, and probably even before Skyfall, the idea of making Blofeld part of Bond's family or killing Bond would have been laughed out of the writers' room. I look at something like GoldenEye as a good balance of emotion (Bond being hurt by Alec's betrayal), or of course Bond's revenge in LTK.
Too many fans still want to believe that Daniel Craig was great in the role - forgetting he fought for this ending/ bond to be killed off for years. Everything Goldfinger touched turned to gold, everything Daniel touched turned to….
The lead actor should know his place. It's good to be the lead, but you don't give this person the power to demand what Craig did and crown him a "producer." He did NOT have the Midas touch
I think the franchise might be done and I have zero hope that the next film will be the James Bond film fans will want and will follow a similar trend like that of StarWars, StarTrek, Dr Who etc. Modern culture will not Allow Bond to be Bond.
The franchise has been around 60 years by constantly evolving. Even early on, comparing Moonraker to 'From Russia with Love' is a very different experience but Moonraker was a massive hit because it was the right film for 1979.
Young people like be a hero and do that they see in such criminal weapon films, exist a lot of true cases, that is bad. You should get a hero without weapons etcYES, than we have a better life
Star Trek, Doctor Who and James Bond all started in the same decade the 60's and even though they've constantly evolved we're now in a very different world.
Bond isn't played out. The Broccoli family is played out. They misconstrue their creative limitations as a limitation of the property. There is life in Bond, but they can't see it. They need to surrender the property to fresh talent and stop trying to control it. But Barbara Broccoli has another agenda. First she stomped the franchise to death and if she ever brings it back it will be to twist him into something more grotesque than Daniel Craig. Bond is dead because that dreadful family will never let go of him.
plus she hasn't the balls to admit it when quizzed, instead she's happy to kick the can down the road not even trying to come up with a plausible reason for the delay OR that ending to the last film.
No James Bond is not done. HOWEVER- There is absolutely no doubt about it - The Producers are completely BORED and TIRED of James Bond. They are tired and really need to sell as soon as possible. There are so many filmmakers out there who would LOVE to get their hands on this franchise and The Producers really need to do the right thing- and let it go. Let it go to young fresh creators who love and care about James Bond. Creators who are still excited about the character and who cannot wait to create new adventures for him. They should think of Cubby Broccoli, Ian Fleming, the great history and legacy of the franchise... and most importantly-.the FANS. We have kept this franchise alive and thriving for over 6 DECADES. James Bond is still the greatest fictional character ever created and the best franchise in movie history. And he deserves to be treated much better than he is being treated right now. And honestly- we deserve to be treated better too. I just read they are doing a second season of the Bond game show on Amazon. So TWO seasons of that and no news at all on a new James Bond or a new Movie!? Yikes. Hard to stay positive!
I feel that Barbara is more interested in theatre these days than Bond. Cubby lived and breathed 007 and worked his socks off to deliver a film -a great film, every 2 or 3 years. We're so lucky to have those to fall back on because I can’t honestly see another film happening. I think Eon will sell the franchise to Amazon, Apple, Disney, Netflix or wherever -and God help us all then.
" Cubby lived and breathed 007 and worked his socks off to deliver a film -a great film, every 2 or 3 years." - THIS ^^. This is the reason WHY Barbara Broccoli killed off the Bond franchise. BECAUSE in a deep-seated part of her psyche - going all the way back to the earliest memories of her childhood - she felt that her father loved the Bond franchise more than he loved her. So - subconsciously - she HATED the Bond franchise. She always has done. That's why she choose Daniel Craig - the one man in England who wanted to kill off James Bond - to be the lead actor when she finally had control of the franchise.
@@arthurlongshanks really is she allowed that to happen talk about stupid, very stupid and Daniel Craig. He calls himself a bond fan he’s not because bond never dies. He never gives up and he always strives to do better and he completes the mission and comes out alive at the other end, he’s a complete joke. I don’t understand why people don’t see it in him. Good grief.
@@brutalieriNo thanks. He's too well known as Lucifer. We don't need to set it in the 50's. Today's movies are garbage and they'll ruin the 50's with their cgis. They have already ruined the James Bond and Indiana Jones saga. Both Indiana Jones The Kingdom of Crystal Skull and Indiana Jones Dial of Destiny were garbage. Indiana Jones The Original Trilogy is a masterpiece. There are only 3 Indiana Jones films, 3 masterpieces and my personal favorite is The Last Crusade.. Daniel Craig Bond films are mediocre... The only good ones are Casino Royale and Skyfall.. Those 2 Craig Bond films are masterpieces. The only great Pierce Brosnan Bond films are GoldenEye and Tomorrow Never Dies.. GoldenEye is a masterpiece and Tomorrow Never Dies is alright. Both Timothy Dalton Bond films are masterpieces.. Both The Living Daylights and Licence To Kill are masterpieces. The only great Roger Moore Bond films are The Spy Who Loved Me, For Your Eyes Only and Live And Let Die.... The Spy Who Loved Me is a masterpiece.. Sean Connery has 4 great Bond films and he has 3 masterpieces... Goldfinger, Thunderball and From Russia With Love are masterpieces. Sean Connery is the best Bond... George Lazenby has only one Bond film and his movie is a masterpiece... I love On Her Majesty's Secret Service. the only great Bond films are "GoldenEye, Casino Royale, Skyfall, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Licence To Kill, The Living Daylights, Goldfinger, The Spy Who Loved Me, Thunderball and From Russia With Love."
This would be amazing and would remove any pressing need to make it woke - one issue is the greedy producers are all about the back handers from ‘brands’ - David is a perfect example of how much a small fortune can be rinsed out of us to get closer to our hero. Vintage suits, cars and watches don’t work as product placement
Simple no cost 18:52 solution: Go to your library and read the books. Start with Fleming and then read the various authorized stories through Kim Sherwood’s pair (so far). Plenty of adventures, insights and time well spent. After that, read the various Fleming biographies and then the various histories of Assault Unit 30. By that time, if you are done, then fair well and good luck. But, by the time you have finished the new Bond movie will be out there. Please read!
I hired Kim Sherwood's Double or Nothing from the library and tried to read it - it was unreadably bad. Like - the most far left, neo-marxist, wokest of woke woke BS I had ever tried to read. I've heard that Higson's latest is equally as bad - portraying some badly written Nigel Farage analogue as the evil baddie as if "ooh the far-right bogey-men are the real problem with the world today". No thanks. I downloaded Raymond Benson's Zero Minus Ten from Audible instead and I'm quite enjoying it so far.
A few viewpoints on James Bond literary and cinematic, past, present and future. They are great Bond adventures. Quite a few of the continuation novel authors are active on social media. Raymond Benson, Jeffery Deaver Anthony Horowitz and Kim Sherwood are just a few who have liked and interacted with fans. There are also several Bond alumni in general who have liked my social media posts. I recommend the Dynamite Comics run. The authors also interact with Bond fans. Hang in there fans, the memories are always there, and more of the people are lovely. For future Literary Bond adventures, I was thinking of Charles Cumming and Charlotte Philby. Both are thriller writers, with a bit of spy influence. Fleming wrote Bond as a modern day character, IFP should stick to that for now. A modern day spinoff I would like to see are for certain villains: Blofeld and Irma Bunt, Goldfinger and Oddjob, Alec Trevelyan and Francisco Scaramanga. They could all have interesting backstories set in the modern day BEFORE they meet James Bond. The only 2 negative things that I will say about EON's future with Bond is that Purvis and Wade should be done writing. Great ideas men, but it's simply time for a change. Even Richard Maibaum took breaks! And sadly bashed 2 of the 3 movies he didn't work on. Also, no actor should ever again get the amount of creative control that Craig had. He was like a spoiled brat at times. It always seemed Barbara Broccoli bowed down to him, (and never to Brosnan). If her dad could have given Connery even half of that, he might have played Bond longer. On the postive side, Gregg Wilson (MGW's son) has become more active in producing. He could take over his dad's job one day, with his aunt. Plus, if Amazon is helping with the budgets, more movies could be made more quickly. They want a return on their MGM investment, Bond will surely help with that! I'm very grateful to the James Bond fandom. However, we need to keep ourselves in check. We can disagree while being respectful to each other. That's one thing that Bond fandom has over other fandoms. I'm always interested in listening to others' James Bond opinions. Let's always be kind. We are one of the luckiest fandoms in the world. Let's always be appreciative of each other. Most franchises burn out. Bond hasn't, and probably never will at this point. It's because of respectful fans that this has happened. Please respect each other, it is shown. We are truly lucky.
@@_JMB I'm listening to Zero Minus Ten on audible at the moment by Raymond Besnon - its great. But Kim Sherwood's works are unreadable woke trash. Don't say I didn't warn you.
The more I watched No Time To Die it became unwatchable to the point of me hating it. Funny how 9 years ago with Skyfall everyone gushed how the future of Bond was never better, now in 2024 everyone be like, can it go on?
I think a solution is to maybe not spend ludicrous amount of money on a James Bond film. No Time to Die's production budget started at 250 million. GoldenEye's budget today would be roughly 127 million. The initial Connery films were small scale espionage adventures. Bond films should go back to that.
In fairness the Connery budgets were quite large by todays standards-the volcano set in 'You only live twice' cost the same as the entire budget of Dr No and that was only 5 years prior. Troubled productions certainly balloon the budget-Tomorrow Never Dies cost nearly double what Goldeneye did [$110 million compared to $60 million]. I'd guess Bond 26 will be cheaper mainly as it's probably a whole new cast but people will expect scale [Skyfall was mostly filmed in the UK [with the China scenes filmed there] but that skill had scope.
Imo Bond has been killed off. The entertainment industry today treats iconic sophisticated and stoic male characters like Bond as toxic and need to be brought down like with Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Batman, Doctor Who, Indianna Jones and Bond got the same treatment in NTTD. I'm glad no Bond film is being made sparing him no further damage as so many famous franchises have been bastardised and bombing at box office. For it to possibly come back it has to be made by producers who aren't embarrassed and ashamed of the franchise they own. This has been evident in both film and novels. I will forever be a fan especially with the classics and one day introduce my nephew to it.
I agree things are getting out of hand but I ain't gonna lie James Bond is a terrible man, even tho I still love the franchise. I mean the man literally raped Pussy Galore in Goldfinger, a woman who is openly a lesbian.
you're delusional. dune is the biggest new franchise in decades and its main character is essentially what you're describing as a "toxic male". breaking bad is still the highest rated tv show ever and extremely popular, even featuring in superbowl ads, and its main character is the most toxic of the toxic males. everything isnt a conspiracy, sometimes movies just suck. these franchises arent being killed off because of some weird conspiracy to eliminate masculinity from society.. its because the producers dont care about making a good movie and know people are going to go spend money on it just because of the name. they're milking these franchises dry of course the movies suck. people need to stop spending money on more marvel garbage and more star wars garbage and then we would actually start seeing some creativity.
I’ll come back to watch this video in a moment. But the short answer is that we’ll never be played out of Bond entertainment so long as you keep making these videos. Best and warm wishes as always! ✊🏼
David, I'm positive about many things but not about EON Productions. Not anymore. You seem reluctant to realize that NTTD undermined the spirit of James Bond. That film alone destroyed his mojo. The Broccoli's think they did everything that could be done with the character [actually there is still plenty of creative directions and stories to tell about Bond, but it's the family that controls him that's played out, so they misconstrue their limitations as a limitation of the property]. So they spent the last five films deconstructing his masculinity until they killed him. To watch a mortally wounded Bond on his knees beg the villain for mercy is not something you can go back on. I have no faith in this family to bring James Bond back. If they bring him back it will be with some over-riding agenda that makes him no longer Bond. So long as that family controls Bond there is no positive solution.
With no new film plans and the ridiculous ending of the last film Killing Bond - right now it’s dead ! EON simply don’t care - so I guess why should we hang on if they don’t want Bond fans anymore Just don’t turn your destination ( and there have been hints … ) into a shopping channel.
I honestly think people's biggest problem with No Time to Die is just that everyone is so attached to the tropes of all the previous films, so when NTTD tried to do something completely different people didn't like it. Meanwhile I as someone who encourages doing different things in long running franchises, I adored it.
@@cookiesontoast9981No Time To Die is absolute garbage not because Bond died but the story as a whole. The Pre-title sequence was so stupid when Bond dumped his other onto the train I was done….
@@colmomaoilmhiadhaigh6634 Fair if you feel that way. But to my mind just sounds like a jaded way of looking at things and disliking them because you want to.
It is while Babs continues to show no interest. She killed the goose which laid the golden egg. Time to sell the franchise to someone more interested and not a disinterested part time caretaker.
@@playedout148 Hard to argue that - especially seeing what Disney has done to Star Wars. But no question about it… for the good of the Franchise…. I still think they MUST sell. (Just not to Disney 😳😳!)
Absolutely agree. I'm a lifetime Bond fan who saw Dr. Lr. No as a young boy when it was first released. My frustration at the lack of news, new stuff, movie etc. Is testing my patience. Is EON trying to kill its golden goose of committed Bond Fans?
As long as the James Bond Community is always here pumping life into the Bond franchise, it will never die! After all there is No time to die! 😁 Roger Moore said it best “To this moment, and the moment yet to come.”
Perhaps but I don't know many millennials or Gen Z who gift a flying fuck about James Bond. Without a future audience it will become a relic of the past
If someone with the love and passion for the franchise would be at the helm, it would be thriving. Take risks! If it fails it fails but at least it's out there and is relevant. So much potential its a shame nothing has been done these past few years
If anything it's better the people doing Bond currently are connected to the franchise rather than a corporate hire who's just pumping out content to keep there job. I do think Star Wars is much less special for having frequent content rather than when it was the biggest franchise around because you only got a film every 3 years or so. Barbara B has worked on Bond since Octopussy and Micheal G. Wilson was involved in Goldfinger so they've spent most of there lives doing it. Besides, surely the Craig era did take massive risks [going back to doing a reboot and giving Bond a character arc for Casino] and were big hits.
@@jamesatkinsonja That's a fair point. Star Wars has been completely ruined in my opinion because of corporate influence. Will need to stay tuned, but hopefully something will come soon, there's so much potential and a whole new generation of fans to capture
There’s going to be a generation that grows up where SPECTRE and NTTD are the two most recent movies they can be introduced to in (at least) a 10 year span. I’d say it’s not encouraging.
But it has to be acknowledged that the Craig era in general had a following and he was very popular. Besides, most of his fans probably watched his whole saga [given were in the 'cinematic universe' generation] and both Spectre (nearly $900 million) and No Time to Die (nearly $800 million) had big audiences.
Think killing off bond was the mistake DC could have just ended with going into the sunset with Madeline and then Introduce another actor playing 007 and create missions in between the bond novels or something but it’s not going to work if he died Like Tony stark coming back after killed off
Casino Roayle doesn't follow the ending of Die Another Day at all. Bond has already done a hard reboot and franchises reboot all the time so I don't see the problem. You could easily bring Tony Stark back in a new film as long as it's outside the MCU. Besides, Hugh Jackman is coming back as Logan/Wolverine after he was killed off...
No Bond is most certainly NOT played out! Compare the 25 Bond films that have dropped over the last 6 DECADES to over twice that (55?) superhero movies shat out the last 20 years! Copy n paste Superhero movies are well and truly played out, not James Bond films!
From a content / Instagram point of view it really is difficult. My account is primarily chatting with friends around the world now, which I love. But, the upside to this quiet period in Bond has meant that I have started to pick up older books and taken more of an interest in what I already have in my collection, rather than trying to add to the collection
I agree that the franchise isn't played out. I do feel, though, that they really need to go back to basics with the films and re-evaluate what made the franchise so special, in the past. It felt like, short of Casino Royale and Skyfall, the films in Craig's run kept getting messier and messier, losing a bit of the fun and magic that the franchise used to have. If nothing else, we'll always have the classics.
I remember feeling lied to when I saw Skyfall for the first time (I paid to sit in a cinema at noon on release day). I felt cheated that they still brought back the M-Q-Moneypenny superstructure, Craig films were supposed to be something different. The reason Bond is played out is the creative direction of Skyfall, Spectre and NTTD increasingly fell on the sick tired trope of "FAMILY." Not every group of people who end up together have a family dynamic, it's old shoddy thinking to keep applying family dynamics to everything and everyone. I find this family cliche to be the real sin of Craig's tenure because Craig is the wrong actor for it.
Great question David! Look at the flood of comments. They could have a cliff hangar finding Bond floating in the water…lost his memory…sound familiar? Craig said publicly he intended to kill Bond as a condition of hiring. He would surround Bond with “strong women” he hated Bond.
Brosnan surrounded himself with 'strong woman' too-Natalia, Wai Lin and Elektra king certainly hold there own against him as characters [and Jinx does in the action department even if she's not well written]. I don't think any Bond actor put in as much work behind the scenes as Craig did [as shown by the many injuries he sustained]. The only way that 'cliff hanger' would work if Craig played the part rather than an actor the audience has no connection too [and so it doesn't feel too 'Bourne Identity'] and you'd still have Madeline and Mathilde present [as unlike Kissy Suzuki in the novels, the MI6 team know who they are]. A hard reboot is a much easier sell.
What’s wrong with a blank slate, tabula rasa… I love the franchise but I can only go back so many times before it rewrites the memory or feeling I have of it. It’s a shame we have to eat table scraps and make something out of nothing. We’re starving really. And it’s one of the biggest names in movie history. Take your time to get it right eon, but don’t take eons.
Thank u David for your words in this video. Been having problems lately and what you said applied to more than 007. I’m glad I subscribed to you , YOU are a real winner and I like hearing from people like you. Keep it up and I’ll keep watching
They are taking a break because the decision to kill Bond was the worst ever that I think they will regret forever. There is no way out of it that will be good. You can reboot it but then you cannot use any of the previous actors. You can revive him, he never died, but then that would be too much to bear, it is like calling the fans beyond stupid. You can restart everything from scratch with new actors but then now you know that James Bond can die anytime the producers run out of ideas and want something dramatic to make up for it. Really really the dumbest decision ever to kill Bond.
As a longtime Bond fan (since the early 1980s), I have been saying for years that Bond series is done. Not only have the producers seemingly lost interest in Bond, but the Fleming character really no longer fits the current zeitgeist. I refused to even watch NTTD in theaters as I could see that they were more interested in sacrificing this character instead of celebrating it. RIP Mr. Bond.
No that gap was because of very very different circumstances. There were legal rights issues being fought about. None of that is happening now. This is all just creative fatigue.
Goldeneye came out in 1995, filming commenced fall of 94 I think - no time to die began filming more than 5 years ago and there has been no court case to tie up the producers and the franchise - it’s more a simple case of Broccoli’s don’t care - they have our money now we can F Off
1989-1997 - that was 8 years and we had 3 excellent films in that time: LTK, GE & TND. In the last 8 years - from 2016-2014 - we've had precisely one Bond film - the abysmal NTTD - with no new Bond films on the horizon for at least the foreseeable future of another 3, 4 or 5 more years...
@@arthurlongshanks Each to there own as I really don't care for LTK personally and it's the lowest performing Bond at the box office adjusted for inflation while NTTD made nearly $800 million at the box office has a 83% score on Rotten tomatoes and was nominated for Oscars... TND was reviewed pretty middling at the time too [with a 57% Rotten tomatoes score].
I'd hate to see what Social media recation would be to 'Moonraker' especially given how 'un fleming' it is. I'm sure people would be moaning about Cubby to step down [and there was a reason why the return of Sean Connery was embraced at the time with Never Say Never again' despite the quality of that film].
Yep - totally agree David. That's why in my head-cannon Bond is still in a coma in hospital after being shot off the train at the start of Skyfall and the events in the rest of Skyfall and all of Spectre and all of NTTD never happened. I prefer to focus on the positive and upbeat aspects of the Bond archetype - which were perfectly embodied by Sean Connery, Sir Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton and Pierce Brosnan. Pouty McPoutface was never Bond to me. I doubt EON will release another Bond film - I don't know what more Barbara Broccoli could do to indicate that she wants the Bond franchise to die. But like you said - instead of being negative about that - I turned it around and eliminated the problem by writing the most thrilling, visceral, sexy Bond-inspired story since Fleming himself instead. Am now working on the 2nd story currently. Here's to being a Problem Eliminator!
I truly don’t think it’s “played out”. One of the great strengths of Bond is that, he can be endlessly reinterpreted to be a reflection of the age he finds himself in at the time. I remember when the Cold War ended and many film critics said that Bond was now irrelevant because, if the Soviet Union was gone, what purpose does Bond serve in a post Cold War era? Well, then the War on Terror arrived and Craig’s Bond became VERY relevant. As long as Bond acknowledges that time he finds himself in and yet still retains the qualities that has served him well for over 5 decades, he’ll be just fine.
We’re not played out, but with respect, the Bond writers Neal Purvis and Robert Wade seem to be played out now. I mean, they’ve written every Bond film since 1999’s The World Is Not Enough. I think it’s time for new writers to come in who respect the legacy of Bond but want to do something fresh with the series.
Purvis and Wade themselves have said they'd be happy to move on and they have brought in fresh writers for the last 3 films but each time they've had to bring Purvis and Wade back to get the scripts going [and there work is nearly always re-written by many other writers]. For example they got Peter Morgan in to writer what became Skyfall but his script was 'too John Le Carre' and not what they were looking for.
@@jamesatkinsonja Yes, I know this. I'm just saying that it's time for new writers and a completely fresh approach like what Christopher Nolan did with Batman Begins. I'm not saying he should make the next Bond film, but there needs to be a new filmmaker with new writers for the next era of Bond. Just my opinion.
“No time to die” actually asked & answered it Saf-“ I want the world to evolve, yet you want it to stay the same, let’s face it, I’ve made you redundant “ Bond-“No. Not as long as there are men like you in the world” A Given the world current, we have a whole Host of villains to draw inspiration from, it just needs to capture the essence of the character against the villains of now. As far as a product line, I always thought someone like Hasbro or Valaverse could get the licensing and produce a 1/12 action figure line based off the entire series All the bonds various suits variants etc, their villians, the Bond girls, some of the vehicles etc. GI Joe classified, Action force, Indiana jones, ghost busters, the MCU, Star Wars. There is a market for it, Valaverse made an exclusive that is a strong nod to Craig in Casino royale from the Africa chase scene. I don’t believe 007 is played out, why? Bc we’re still talking about him.
Yes. It is not possible to do this character justice in the current era of film making. The last film made Bond out to be a worthless has-been, dead beat father, who no one even remembered or cared about all the lives he has saved over the years. Male escapism is no longer valued and is actively being systematically torn down. I have never binge watched Bond movies and there are years between viewings for me. They don't get old for me because of this and as far as I'm concerned I am done and happy we have what we have.
Did you actually watch No Time to die or is this just going off the trailer? The character who's questioning his worth gains respect for him to the extent she's fighting alongside him at the end and gives him his number back. He's brought back into the fold by a man who greatly respects him-Felix- and his helped by his friends Q and Moneypenny. He dies a hero saving the day and the film ends with Madeline telling his story to his daughter, showing how much his exploits are going to go down in legend. The idea it made him out to be worthless is total nonsense. It's like taking the scene from 'Goldeneye' where M says Bond is a 'sexist misogynist dinosaur' in isolation and ignoring that Bond is not showing her any respect either but by the time of 'The world is not enough' they have strong mutual respect.
I will say this no time to die has left a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths… it was the unthinkable James Bond dying that makes you question everything comes forward. I know I’ve done it. There was a point I would’ve said if they had marketed no time to die as the last part I would’ve definitely 100% gone with it, but you got those famous words at the end of the movie. James Bond will return that does give me hope though I do hate the fact that, when I was younger, it used to be two years apart now I feel I just keep getting older a decade when the next bond movie comes out
They did market NTTD as the last movie-Craig was quite open in saying it was his last one and it was very much build as a 'final chapter'. Of course it's going to get a reboot as has most properties but Craig was it's own continuity. I think they only put that there due to tradition anyway.
I agree with the comments here about the producers. We are now 5 years since the production end of NTTD & no new film in sight. The issue is NTTD. They don’t know what to do after that ending & they should have realised that. DC went on 2 films too many & it’s that unknown of whether he was coming back that has affected the franchise. Solution is easy. You give a Tom Hardy a 2 picture deal with option of a 3rd & go back to basics Fun , swagger , good villains & decent title song. If we can’t have Nolan then get him to produce & write with his brother. With Tom you can have a bit of fun - go to a Brosnan type formula - whilst the next stage is considered. He’s bankable plus he’s telling us he wants it with the tux in the latest venom trailer 😅 Also. Bring back David Arnold.
Here is an idea for a reboot. How about re adapting OHMSS, You Only Live Twice and The Man With The Golden Gun either as a trilogy or a series. The writers should be required to adapt the Bond and tone of the novels. Each movie should tell it's own contained story but be linked with the next. So in OHMSS we follow Bond on his mission to defeat Blofeld and Spectre, it ends in both triumph and tragedy. YOLT picks up on Bond's quest for revenge which he achieves but at the cost of his sanity and freedom. Golden Gun picks it up as the novel with Bond's failed assassination attempt on M and his restoration and redemption mission. I believe this could function as a kickstarter that will give Bond an interesting arc that can be built upon with future stand alone instalments, while maintaning the integrity of Fleming's Bond.
Perhaps NTTD was a dream and they could follow the example “Dallas” did with bringing Bobby back to life. NTTD really did a disservice to the franchise. The plot was similar to what was really going on in the world and they kill of Bond? What a mistake. At a time when the world needed a hero they killed him. Even in a normal time killing of Bond was a mistake. Bond needs to be big. Villians need to be big and their plans need to be big. Bond was fantasy and while the Craig films were good and more gritty, the fantasy was gone. Maybe I’m wrong but the fantasy needs to come back. Godzilla has been around for what 70 years and “Minus One” took the world by storm and ended up Toho’s most successful film. So Bond isn’t played out, but needs the ingredients again that made it big in the first place. While Craig’s Bond films were good, they were like all other action films today. Bond always stood out and needs to again.
Yep - that's how it goes in my head canon - NTTD was a dream. So was Spectre and the whole "Brofeld" nonsense. Indeed so was most of Skyfall with all its nonsense plotholes and melodramatic pretentiousness. In my head canon - Bond was shot by Eve Moneypenny off the top of a train at the start of Skyfall and the fall should have killed him but it didn't but he's been in a coma ever since having increasingly bizarre and ridiculous dreams - those being the plots of Skyfall, Spectre and NTTD. In Bond 26 he wakes up in hospital with Moneypenny and Tanner and Q and he's like "woah I had the most crazy dreams that M died and Blofield was my brother and Felix died and then I died some chick was 007 instead of me" and they're like "no James - don't be silly - that was all just a dream. You're still 007 and M's still alive and infact now you're awake you'd better come and report to her because she has a new mission for you" - cue the Bond theme music - DOONET DA DOO - DEE DOO DEE DOO - DA DA DOO!
Thanks for continuing with content, David. Bond will never die so long as ladies and gentlemen like your followers keep him going. We’re a proud fraternity ✌️
The EON-produced franchise, maybe. But, the CHARACTER of James Bond and his world? Absolutely not! No more than Sherlock Holmes or Dracula or other iconic characters were played out. Sure, the Universal and Hammer franchises had their day, but the character lived on and others came along to pick up the baton. Perhaps we'll see the same with 007.
Yeah, but nobody has tried to reimagine Elvis for a modern audience. We've just celebrated the brilliance of the man. Bond's essence has been diluted and will be further vandalised going forward given current day politics.
@@jupiterfive3379 exactly. It's been 5 years since NTTD finished filming and when it was originally supposed to be released in 2019. Cubby wouldn't have been wasting time sitting on his hands or 5 years.
@JacktheFilmFanatic-vu1nk its not so much that Barbara doesn't care for Bond - she actively hates the Bond franchise in a deep subconscious part of her psyche. Because the Bond franchise was her father's baby - his most loved baby - and when she was a child she felt that he loved Bond more than he loved her. It drove her insane with bitterness and jealousy. That's why she choose Daniel Craig for Bond in the first place - because they were BOTH determined to kill off Bond.
I think EON has had its day. The only way I can see it working is to adapt the novels very faithfully in the period they were set. The Toby Stephens radio versions on film or as Netflix type series. No colourblind casting and other woke concessions. There's surely enough to celebrate with 25 films over 60 odd years.
I can't wait for people to moan the faithful 'Goldfinger' adaption is 'woke' because they made Pussy Galore bisexual...oh wait that was from the book...
Great vid, David! I really like how you reminded us the importance of staying positive. I’m thankful that we have decades of Bond and I have memories of watching the films with family and friends. Thanks to celluloid and Fleming’s fiction, JB lives on forever.
I dont think it's dead, but it needs new blood. I'm not a fan of the current writers. Casino Royale worked because it was mostly based on Fleming's book. Everything since has been convoluted, dark, and melodramatic, with only occasional moments of Bond-like levity. They squeezed the fun out of Bond. So I hope the winds change with the next installment for the better, but I feel it'll only happen with new writers (or if they base the story on one of the books). I have little faith in the current writers. Hopefully, a new director will come along who shares this vision and brings a new story. I hate to say it, but with Craig's behind-the-scenes influence out of the picture, i think that will only help.
They also need to get rid of Phoebe Waller Bridge as a producer, if they want king-term success for the Bond franchise. PWB only knows how to do one thing: kill off the main character.
If you believe that, then why did you come back? Because we're under attack you know we need you, David! That 007 reality show on Amazon just wasn't the answer for keeping the community engaged. I'm convinced that the contestants on that show had never seen a Bond film in their life. I'm not interested in spin-off content. I'm interested in the next film. It's a shame that Barbara and Michael don't seem to be.
I hope they are saving all this absence to turn into surprises. I hope by the end of this year one of these things would happen as a new actor announced, a 4k box set, the new video game, maybe an animated movie or 2 part animation series adapted from the comics maybe. There is so much that could and could’ve come, it’s sad to say the 40th anniversary during Die Another Day seemed more of like the time to be a bond fan than now but we can all hope
Should never have killed Bond off. If Fleming were alive, I doubt he'd ever give that a go ahead. They probably don't know where to go next. They wouldn't be in this position if they didn't decide to kill Bond unless it was to end the film franchise entirely. Unlikely though with "James Bond will return." at the end credits of NTTD. But with everything being quiet about the next Bond, it's not looking very good 🤷🏻♂️ Let's wait till James Bond day. Maybe there'll be some sort of announcement on that day.
I don't think killing Bond off has anything to do with it. It's completely irrelevant to a book writer or producer. EON killed themselves off, it seems.
You are aware Fleming himself toyed with killing Bond off-'From Russia With Love' cliffhanger ending could have been Bond's death if Fleming hadn't been inspired to write more and Bond is missing, presumed dead at the end of 'You only live twice' [to the extent M in NTTD is quoting from Fleming's obituary] and it does feel that he might have added a 'sequel hook' as it feels like it could have ended with Bond retired. Besides, they deviated from his books from day one casting a working class Scottish actor for his upper class English hero. Bond is hardly the only franchise to kill it's lead off in recent years [even doing it in Logan hasn't stopped Hugh Jackman coming back for Deadpool 3].
The franchise is over. Barbara and Michael are tired. Current social landscape won't accept Bond (even if normal regular people want these kind of films).
That ending to No Time To Die left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths. if the next James Bond is written and acted more like the non-angsty Bond then it may not be dead.
Calvin dyson made a great point in his 'emotional storytelling' video that you do need to give the actor something to work with. It can't be a cardboard character with zero development or material. Even in the Brosnan era you had things like the Elektra king storyline to play with Bond's emotions.
I'm proud to say I am a new Bond fan. I watched them as a kid but did not appreciate it until now. Always wanted an Aston Martin since playin' Night Fire as a kid. I'm gonna buy An Aston Martin DB12 one day and get a drivers license just so I can drive that car. Anyway I just wanted to say thank you for this channel.
The producers have made a major error in allowing this paralysis. My Bond fan friends were frustrated at the ‘drought’ a while back but have since completely lost interest in the franchise. And after the sour taste left for many from the last film’s conclusion, swift and effective attention was needed. I suspect Mr G Wilson’s age has left the Broccoli-ship rather rudderless: neither the energy to press on, nor willingness to pass on the mantle. What a waste.
I think there’s a divide for some of us who were fans of the books first. I read the books before my parents let me watch the movies. There’s a lot of room to explore beyond the next film. There’s also a wealth of untapped film inspiration for supporting characters. I’d could be game for a few Felix Leiter movies!
I get the feeling that Babs and Michael G aren't interested in "Bond gets his mission, goes out and does it, the end" type movies. I just don't think that thrills them. That's why there's such a delay. What they're interested in is something more, something different, something under the surface like we had with the (hit and miss) Craig movies. Their problem is, how do they do that without repeating themselves or straying too far from the source material? How I would love to be a fly on the wall in their producer meetings...
Babs and Michael took influence from the Bourne films when they cast Craig. 2015's Kingsman: The Secret Service proved that a Moore Bond film still works in the 21st century. Dead Reckoning Part One felt more like Bond than No Time to Die.
There was a sense of finality about NTTD that I felt as I left the cinema and on each rewatch Bond living on for the next adventure was always fine and good and I'd like to get back to that. I do wonder how much he'll have to change for the 21st century now though, he won't be allowed to be Bond anymore. I hope the next one isn't a Force Awakens-esque nod to the series and just stands alone and non-self aware and just "is"
This is that “lean period,” similar to 1990-1995 and 2003-2006. There are books to read, comics to paw through, blogs and podcasts to keep us occupied. I think content creators have more latitude than we think. We can delve into the “what ifs:” potential actors, directors, brands, stories, etc. I still say the journey we take from one film to the next is just as important as the Bond films we watch in the theater.
David, I always tell my young son that I am SO LUCKY to have grown up and lived through a time when there was so much creativity unleashed - whether it be the JAMES BOND franchise, or some of the greatest great rock music like AC/DC, VAN HALEN, etc. WE ARE SO LUCKY- of course we don't have to feel like we're "played out"- to the contrary- we can always CELEBRATE that we lived through this amazing time-- others in the future won't be as lucky as we were!
I think they need to adopt the John Wick model of modest budgets and attention to more grounded stories. They spent so much on the last one and it didn't make enough money to be in the black. John Wick 4 cost $100M and looks as good as any recent 007 outing.
MGM said NTTD did make a profit on NTTD despite media rumours at the time. You could certainly make a Bond for less money as the new film probably will have a new/cheaper cast and the budget was inflated by production troubles [Tomorrow Never Dies cost nearly double the budget of Goldeneye because of the production issues]. Skyfall was mostly filmed in the UK and that's the most successful Bond at the box office.
All we have is "past" Bond for now. So I am diving deeper into all of that. I continue to put out Bond content, but few are finding it. That could be from less interest out there, but whatever I discover or learn about past Bond, I try to share still. I don't think Bond is played out, but the unknown future of the franchise seems to be a large black hole.
Fans can’t be expected to be excited for a character when there’s a 4-6 year gap between films. EON has failed to keep fans and audiences excited in those interim period, and when that happens, interest isn’t generated, hence why things feel so stagnant.
It’s just so simple just say bond will return and just keep them entertained in between like you know like have a raffle or some thing like you can win some Murch or something from the movie that was filmed or something like that just to keep us occupied, then on top of that you need to get on the ball and get it done because there’s a fan waiting five years to see Timothy Dalton back as my bond and being robbed of, that was so stupid very selfish
I'm not going to deny that the hiatus EON is taking isn't frustrating as a fan but there's a whole other side of the coin is that the literary side of Bond is thriving at the moment, we're in the middle of Kim Sherwood's Double O trilogy, Garth Ennis's comic run is about to conclude and the paperback of On His Majesty's Secret Service has just come out. So yeah the films get all the attention and there is a symbiotic relationship between EON and IFP but it shows that Bond as a character is far from being dead. And in another 10 years the books at least will be the public domain and they already are in Japan for example, the all-female cast Casino Royale musical is a very creative take on the source material 🐬But I think Bond like Sherlock Holmes (who was also killed and came back) has endured and will endure because he's is endlessly adaptable and without wanting to sound too pretentious he's a modern hero.
Amongst the Bond community the franchise will probably never be played out. Unfortunately, I think amongst the normies, the franchise is dead and buried. That's a combination of a downturn in cinema goers in general, plus a disastrous EON strategy of too long between movie releases and the decision to kill Bond in order to placate Craig, rather than cater to audiences. All momentum has been lost and the franchise will be completely unknown to a new generation by the time they resurrect the character for the next installment. It'll also probably be a diluted version given Hollywood's current destructive adherence to EDI, which is not in the spirit of a franchise created in the last century.
The Craig films have been very successful with 'normies' [the last 3 made a combined $2.9 billion] and they seem to be higher regarded with them given No Time to Die is a healthy 7.3/10 on IMDB. It's on TV all the time and clearly still sells papers/gets clicks [given how often 'in the running for Bond' is used to sell an actors films] so it's clearly something people care about. Having all the Bond films was a big selling point for Amazon Prime. Frankly as Bond 26 will be a reboot, it should be easier to get more casual fans to get invested as they don't need any backstory. The 60th anniversary was big new too and Bond is an iconic character-particularly in the UK.
Craig's era was the resurrection of a dying star which was the Bond franchise. No doubt about it. You're quite right about the appeal amongst general audiences (at the beginning of the run). But that has been in decline as the franchise lumbered on towards the climax (damp squib that was NTTD). Streaming access of the back catalogue is not a measure of popularity, but a symptom of the writer /actor strikes combined with COVID which has left content providers with large gaps in new content availability and turning to long running franchises like Bond to patch the gaps meantime. Hollywood simply won't allow Bond to flourish in the 21st century. There will undoubtedly continue to be Bond films, but they will be a diluted shadow of the Fleming origin because a younger modern day audience stands opposed to anything remotely masculine. If that's your bag, have at it. Each to their own 👍
Either people have the talent to entertain or they don’t. I could easily come up with a list of over dozen directions you could go. It’s time to change the formula again and I think that’s what the delay is.
I don't think Bond as a character is played out at all. With Daniel Craig being (sadly) done with the role, we're looking at a new Bond. If done correctly, it can (and hopefully will) completely reboot the franchise. In my personal opinion, HENRY CAVILL would be the PERFECT new Bond and would 100% reboot the franchise. He would be an incredible Bond, with almost endless possibilities for movie plot lines.
People keep on asking me what is happening that they don't see any movement on the Bond franchise. They ask me if Bond is truly dead. I don't even know what to say anymore.
Amongst other things I am an author and I can tell it is not difficult to move the franchise forward and get back to good movies. They allowed the actor to get bigger than the legacy. I think Daniel was great in a couple of movies, he was ultimately given too much power. If required, Barbara should either step back or ask someone new to work with the ingredients. The right male lead and supporting cast will easily get this back on track.
Its clearly that Craig was a big part of the production right from the start. The original director of Quantum [Roger Mitchell] had worked with him before, as had the villain [Munich] and he was clearly doing a lot of heavy lifting and clearly worked well with the producers.
In one word: no. In a bit more depth: Like any media franchise, there are times when nothing happens, and times when everything happens. James Bond is an evergreen brand - even without a movie, even if people aren't talking about it, James Bond is an institution. There is enough James Bond already out there for people to enjoy, discover for the first time, and delve into. James Bond, like many other entertainment mythologies (Star Trek, Doctor Who, Marvel, Star Wars, DC...) - these aren't so much franchises anymore as they are institutions - even without any new 'content' out there, the depth of existing content is broad enough to keep fans coming back, and new fans to discover. For someone somewhere in the world, they are watching their very first James Bond Movie The good thing is, is that just like Doctor Who, Star Trek, Star Wars, Marvel, DC... it is because of just how much James Bond is this evergreen brand, that there will always be people who want to write a James Bond story, direct a James Bond production.
The Bond fanchise will never be played out? After Dalton did his two Bond films ( The Living Daylights-1987/ License to Kill-1989) there was a 6 year gap until another Bond film resurfaced in 1995 with Bronson (Golden Eye). But I will say this, the challenge will be finding great writers/stories/directors/ performers, etc... in todays Industry? The talent is very slim now? Nobody is really creative or hungry like they use to be? Nobody wants to see recycled stories or remakes? That's what makes the earlier Bond films that more special and timeless! They never get old because they were so well put together? But for the sake of argument, lets say Bond films will never return again, I'm totally cool with it because the Bond catalogue will live and go on forever....greatness is hard to replace or duplicate? Thank you Ian Fleming🎉
Remember the last film was meant to come out at the end of 2019, it was delayed until early 2020 and then,,,,,which is why we got it in late 21,,,so really it’s now 5 years and counting since the last one,,,I have no hope now with the current producers in charge . A proper bond film in which bond is his old proper manly self would be a massive hit ,, but they will not do it ,,,,,madness !
I feel that Bond movies are finished I’m afraid, I mean if I was a producer of the films and wanted to draw a line under them I would probably kill him off, and….they did. I am a huge fan but I kind feel ok with it all being done. We have such a huge back catalogue of great movies to re watch and I think I speak for all fans when I say they never get dull, no matter how many times you see them. As for Bond channels/content creators, well even if Bond is finished, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for any of them to wane. Think of some other channels that are dedicated to old music albums, retro gaming etc. If Bond movies are gone, the fans will always be around and there will always be a thirst for content by you tubers or whoever it may be. It may just mean a slight change in how/what content is put out there that taps in to what fans are interested in/enjoy. Great channel, keep up the great work, we will always stick around if you do!
My thought is that the Bond franchise isn't played out, but the current producers might be.
AMEN! We need new producers!!
Second that; my thoughts exactly. Barbara must go.
I don't understand why both producers can't let Bond go and find a new way forward. Especially Barbara Broccoli seems to be making very odd decisions (or not doing anything at all). I do hope that they find Bond proper new 'management' - thankfully the company is under Amazon and not Disney.
I might be inclined to agree…but be careful what you wish for. Who knows who we’d get in their place.
Will babs and michael hand it down to their children or grandchildren?
They need to find another John Glen and give him a 3-4 film contract. They need to make the films about Bond and his missions and not Bond and his emotional problems.
This is exactly what they should do, but they won't. Exploring Bond's emotional life, even though it was handled with almost no nuance for the most part, has gotten EON showered with accolades throughout Craig's tenure.
Barbara successfully broke free from her father's image of pumping out 'disposable' popcorn entertainment, and successfully made a name for herself in the industry for eschewing what came before. I wholeheartedly believe EON deem making 'classic' style Bond films beneath them now - they got a taste of rightfully earned critical praise with Casino, but this led to 15+ years of misplaced smugness; the wheels gradually falling off with each successive awful creative decision sanctioned.
Now, I don't think they see a path forward. They made Blofeld his brother, they made him resign every film, they made him fall deeply in love twice in less than a ten year period, they made him a daddy, then they killed him. What the hell else is there to delve into? The only logical decision is to return to making actual Bond films, not this embarrassing car crash of a $300+ million dollar soap opera. But how can they when it's granted them such status among their industry peers? So they're stuck between what they perceive to be a rock and a hard place, even though the 'rock' in question is Cubby and Harry's legacy, aka the dependable bedrock that was 1962-2002.
I agree about the missions being important to refreshing the franchise.
Perhaps it's a bit formulaic at this point, but they should consider Martin Campbell for the comeback film with a new bond since he's so good at doing it.
Definitely need to find ONE director to stick around for several movies like John Glen did. This crap of switching directors for every movie needs to stop.
@@stuffedsheepshead I agree completely with this. I think they were even surprised themselves at the massive success of Skyfall - the only Bond to make over billion dollars by a considerable margin. With Spectre and NTTD, they have been trying to chase that success by cherry picking a part of Skyfall (its emotion) and turning it up to 11 at the expense of some of the core aspects of the Bond franchise. Before Craig, and probably even before Skyfall, the idea of making Blofeld part of Bond's family or killing Bond would have been laughed out of the writers' room. I look at something like GoldenEye as a good balance of emotion (Bond being hurt by Alec's betrayal), or of course Bond's revenge in LTK.
Perfectly said
I came out of NTTD with a feeling that not only Bond, but the franchise as a whole died.
Yea definitely starting to seem like that ending was perhaps a lot more final than we had all thought….
Too many fans still want to believe that Daniel Craig was great in the role - forgetting he fought for this ending/ bond to be killed off for years. Everything Goldfinger touched turned to gold, everything Daniel touched turned to….
The lead actor should know his place. It's good to be the lead, but you don't give this person the power to demand what Craig did and crown him a "producer." He did NOT have the Midas touch
Craig disrespected the role and franchise....ultimately
Probably Barbara saying what don’t you Bond fans get? We killed him! Move on. Good ol Barbara. Cubby rolling over in his grave.
I think the franchise might be done and I have zero hope that the next film will be the James Bond film fans will want and will follow a similar trend like that of StarWars, StarTrek, Dr Who etc. Modern culture will not Allow Bond to be Bond.
The franchise has been around 60 years by constantly evolving. Even early on, comparing Moonraker to 'From Russia with Love' is a very different experience but Moonraker was a massive hit because it was the right film for 1979.
Let Bond be an Agent, who fight without weapons against crime, manipulation, corruption etc.
Young people like be a hero and do that they see in such criminal weapon films, exist a lot of true cases, that is bad. You should get a hero without weapons etcYES, than we have a better life
Star Trek, Doctor Who and James Bond all started in the same decade the 60's and even though they've constantly evolved we're now in a very different world.
Bond isn't played out. The Broccoli family is played out. They misconstrue their creative limitations as a limitation of the property. There is life in Bond, but they can't see it. They need to surrender the property to fresh talent and stop trying to control it. But Barbara Broccoli has another agenda. First she stomped the franchise to death and if she ever brings it back it will be to twist him into something more grotesque than Daniel Craig. Bond is dead because that dreadful family will never let go of him.
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plus she hasn't the balls to admit it when quizzed, instead she's happy to kick the can down the road not even trying to come up with a plausible reason for the delay OR that ending to the last film.
Needlessly vile comment.
David is the perfect example of positive fandom love this we need more people like David in every fan community
Unfortunately I don't feel optimistic for the future.
Same here
You’re not alone.
Count ourselves lucky as we have 50 years of films, comics, games, books etc
@@EthanKnight97 speak for yourself
It's hard to when we have no update
No James Bond is not done.
HOWEVER-
There is absolutely no doubt about it -
The Producers are completely BORED and TIRED of James Bond.
They are tired and really need to sell as soon as possible.
There are so many filmmakers out there who would LOVE to get their hands on this franchise and The Producers really need to do the right thing-
and let it go.
Let it go to young fresh creators who love and care about James Bond.
Creators who are still excited about the character and who cannot wait to create new adventures for him.
They should think of Cubby Broccoli, Ian Fleming, the great history and legacy of the franchise...
and most importantly-.the FANS.
We have kept this franchise alive and thriving for over 6 DECADES.
James Bond is still the greatest fictional character ever created and the best franchise in movie history.
And he deserves to be treated much better than he is being treated right now.
And honestly- we deserve to be treated better too.
I just read they are doing a second season of the Bond game show on Amazon.
So TWO seasons of that and no news at all on a new James Bond or a new Movie!?
Yikes.
Hard to stay positive!
I feel that Barbara is more interested in theatre these days than Bond. Cubby lived and breathed 007 and worked his socks off to deliver a film -a great film, every 2 or 3 years. We're so lucky to have those to fall back on because I can’t honestly see another film happening. I think Eon will sell the franchise to Amazon, Apple, Disney, Netflix or wherever -and God help us all then.
Bond will be a black, transgendered, vegan pacifist that uses sit-ins and leaflet campaigns to thwart to misunderstood "villain".
Especially Disney!!!! 😫 Bond’s new mission - fight against the patriarchy!
" Cubby lived and breathed 007 and worked his socks off to deliver a film -a great film, every 2 or 3 years." - THIS ^^. This is the reason WHY Barbara Broccoli killed off the Bond franchise. BECAUSE in a deep-seated part of her psyche - going all the way back to the earliest memories of her childhood - she felt that her father loved the Bond franchise more than he loved her. So - subconsciously - she HATED the Bond franchise. She always has done. That's why she choose Daniel Craig - the one man in England who wanted to kill off James Bond - to be the lead actor when she finally had control of the franchise.
@@arthurlongshanks really is she allowed that to happen talk about stupid, very stupid and Daniel Craig. He calls himself a bond fan he’s not because bond never dies. He never gives up and he always strives to do better and he completes the mission and comes out alive at the other end, he’s a complete joke. I don’t understand why people don’t see it in him. Good grief.
They need to set it in the 1950's and do the novels in order from the beginning.
This. And cast Tom Ellis as Bond.
@@brutalieriNo thanks.
He's too well known as Lucifer.
We don't need to set it in the 50's.
Today's movies are garbage and they'll ruin the 50's with their cgis.
They have already ruined the James Bond and Indiana Jones saga.
Both Indiana Jones The Kingdom of Crystal Skull and Indiana Jones Dial of Destiny were garbage.
Indiana Jones The Original Trilogy is a masterpiece.
There are only 3 Indiana Jones films, 3 masterpieces and my personal favorite is The Last Crusade..
Daniel Craig Bond films are mediocre... The only good ones are Casino Royale and Skyfall..
Those 2 Craig Bond films are masterpieces.
The only great Pierce Brosnan Bond films are GoldenEye and Tomorrow Never Dies..
GoldenEye is a masterpiece and Tomorrow Never Dies is alright.
Both Timothy Dalton Bond films are masterpieces..
Both The Living Daylights and Licence To Kill are masterpieces.
The only great Roger Moore Bond films are The Spy Who Loved Me, For Your Eyes Only and Live And Let Die....
The Spy Who Loved Me is a masterpiece..
Sean Connery has 4 great Bond films and he has 3 masterpieces...
Goldfinger, Thunderball and From Russia With Love are masterpieces.
Sean Connery is the best Bond...
George Lazenby has only one Bond film and his movie is a masterpiece... I love On Her Majesty's Secret Service.
the only great Bond films are
"GoldenEye, Casino Royale, Skyfall, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Licence To Kill, The Living Daylights, Goldfinger, The Spy Who Loved Me, Thunderball and From Russia With Love."
This would be amazing and would remove any pressing need to make it woke - one issue is the greedy producers are all about the back handers from ‘brands’ - David is a perfect example of how much a small fortune can be rinsed out of us to get closer to our hero. Vintage suits, cars and watches don’t work as product placement
It’s a good idea but in reality it’d be a 2020s reading of the 50s.. dialogue, attitudes, looks… I think it would be a disappointment.
The beginning should de WW2
Simple no cost 18:52 solution: Go to your library and read the books. Start with Fleming and then read the various authorized stories through Kim Sherwood’s pair (so far). Plenty of adventures, insights and time well spent. After that, read the various Fleming biographies and then the various histories of Assault Unit 30. By that time, if you are done, then fair well and good luck. But, by the time you have finished the new Bond movie will be out there.
Please read!
Can’t wait to pick one up
I hired Kim Sherwood's Double or Nothing from the library and tried to read it - it was unreadably bad. Like - the most far left, neo-marxist, wokest of woke woke BS I had ever tried to read. I've heard that Higson's latest is equally as bad - portraying some badly written Nigel Farage analogue as the evil baddie as if "ooh the far-right bogey-men are the real problem with the world today". No thanks. I downloaded Raymond Benson's Zero Minus Ten from Audible instead and I'm quite enjoying it so far.
A few viewpoints on James Bond literary and cinematic, past, present and future.
They are great Bond adventures. Quite a few of the continuation novel authors are active on social media. Raymond Benson, Jeffery Deaver Anthony Horowitz and Kim Sherwood are just a few who have liked and interacted with fans. There are also several Bond alumni in general who have liked my social media posts. I recommend the Dynamite Comics run. The authors also interact with Bond fans. Hang in there fans, the memories are always there, and more of the people are lovely. For future Literary Bond adventures, I was thinking of Charles Cumming and Charlotte Philby. Both are thriller writers, with a bit of spy influence. Fleming wrote Bond as a modern day character, IFP should stick to that for now. A modern day spinoff I would like to see are for certain villains: Blofeld and Irma Bunt, Goldfinger and Oddjob, Alec Trevelyan and Francisco Scaramanga. They could all have interesting backstories set in the modern day BEFORE they meet James Bond.
The only 2 negative things that I will say about EON's future with Bond is that Purvis and Wade should be done writing. Great ideas men, but it's simply time for a change. Even Richard Maibaum took breaks! And sadly bashed 2 of the 3 movies he didn't work on. Also, no actor should ever again get the amount of creative control that Craig had. He was like a spoiled brat at times. It always seemed Barbara Broccoli bowed down to him, (and never to Brosnan). If her dad could have given Connery even half of that, he might have played Bond longer.
On the postive side, Gregg Wilson (MGW's son) has become more active in producing. He could take over his dad's job one day, with his aunt. Plus, if Amazon is helping with the budgets, more movies could be made more quickly. They want a return on their MGM investment, Bond will surely help with that!
I'm very grateful to the James Bond fandom. However, we need to keep ourselves in check. We can disagree while being respectful to each other. That's one thing that Bond fandom has over other fandoms. I'm always interested in listening to others' James Bond opinions. Let's always be kind. We are one of the luckiest fandoms in the world. Let's always be appreciative of each other. Most franchises burn out. Bond hasn't, and probably never will at this point. It's because of respectful fans that this has happened. Please respect each other, it is shown. We are truly lucky.
@@_JMB I'm listening to Zero Minus Ten on audible at the moment by Raymond Besnon - its great. But Kim Sherwood's works are unreadable woke trash. Don't say I didn't warn you.
The more I watched No Time To Die it became unwatchable to the point of me hating it. Funny how 9 years ago with Skyfall everyone gushed how the future of Bond was never better, now in 2024 everyone be like, can it go on?
It makes a dreadful rewatch for sure!
I think a solution is to maybe not spend ludicrous amount of money on a James Bond film. No Time to Die's production budget started at 250 million. GoldenEye's budget today would be roughly 127 million. The initial Connery films were small scale espionage adventures. Bond films should go back to that.
In fairness the Connery budgets were quite large by todays standards-the volcano set in 'You only live twice' cost the same as the entire budget of Dr No and that was only 5 years prior. Troubled productions certainly balloon the budget-Tomorrow Never Dies cost nearly double what Goldeneye did [$110 million compared to $60 million]. I'd guess Bond 26 will be cheaper mainly as it's probably a whole new cast but people will expect scale [Skyfall was mostly filmed in the UK [with the China scenes filmed there] but that skill had scope.
Imo Bond has been killed off. The entertainment industry today treats iconic sophisticated and stoic male characters like Bond as toxic and need to be brought down like with Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Batman, Doctor Who, Indianna Jones and Bond got the same treatment in NTTD.
I'm glad no Bond film is being made sparing him no further damage as so many famous franchises have been bastardised and bombing at box office.
For it to possibly come back it has to be made by producers who aren't embarrassed and ashamed of the franchise they own. This has been evident in both film and novels.
I will forever be a fan especially with the classics and one day introduce my nephew to it.
I agree things are getting out of hand but I ain't gonna lie James Bond is a terrible man, even tho I still love the franchise. I mean the man literally raped Pussy Galore in Goldfinger, a woman who is openly a lesbian.
"For it to possibly come back it has to be made by producers who aren't embarrassed and ashamed of the franchise they own."
BINGO!
you're delusional. dune is the biggest new franchise in decades and its main character is essentially what you're describing as a "toxic male". breaking bad is still the highest rated tv show ever and extremely popular, even featuring in superbowl ads, and its main character is the most toxic of the toxic males. everything isnt a conspiracy, sometimes movies just suck. these franchises arent being killed off because of some weird conspiracy to eliminate masculinity from society.. its because the producers dont care about making a good movie and know people are going to go spend money on it just because of the name. they're milking these franchises dry of course the movies suck. people need to stop spending money on more marvel garbage and more star wars garbage and then we would actually start seeing some creativity.
What did they do to Batman ?
Well thanks to Barbara Brocolli sitting on her hands. The answer is yes. This franchise is dead.
They are taking WAY too long with this.
I’ll come back to watch this video in a moment. But the short answer is that we’ll never be played out of Bond entertainment so long as you keep making these videos. Best and warm wishes as always! ✊🏼
David, I'm positive about many things but not about EON Productions. Not anymore. You seem reluctant to realize that NTTD undermined the spirit of James Bond. That film alone destroyed his mojo. The Broccoli's think they did everything that could be done with the character [actually there is still plenty of creative directions and stories to tell about Bond, but it's the family that controls him that's played out, so they misconstrue their limitations as a limitation of the property]. So they spent the last five films deconstructing his masculinity until they killed him. To watch a mortally wounded Bond on his knees beg the villain for mercy is not something you can go back on. I have no faith in this family to bring James Bond back. If they bring him back it will be with some over-riding agenda that makes him no longer Bond. So long as that family controls Bond there is no positive solution.
With no new film plans and the ridiculous ending of the last film Killing Bond - right now it’s dead !
EON simply don’t care - so I guess why should we hang on if they don’t want Bond fans anymore
Just don’t turn your destination ( and there have been hints … ) into a shopping channel.
No Time to Die was a total disappointment.
I honestly think people's biggest problem with No Time to Die is just that everyone is so attached to the tropes of all the previous films, so when NTTD tried to do something completely different people didn't like it.
Meanwhile I as someone who encourages doing different things in long running franchises, I adored it.
@@cookiesontoast9981No Time To Die is absolute garbage not because Bond died but the story as a whole. The Pre-title sequence was so stupid when Bond dumped his other onto the train I was done….
@@colmomaoilmhiadhaigh6634 Fair if you feel that way. But to my mind just sounds like a jaded way of looking at things and disliking them because you want to.
No it's not dumb dumb!!!
@@kyoto5 Keep your son husband energy to yourself.
It is while Babs continues to show no interest.
She killed the goose which laid the golden egg.
Time to sell the franchise to someone more interested and not a disinterested part time caretaker.
Faceless corporations live to destroy franchises tho. Amazon with lotr, Disney with everything else.
@playedout148 and Barbara Broccoli with James Bond
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Hard to argue that - especially seeing what Disney has done to Star Wars.
But no question about it…
for the good of the Franchise….
I still think they MUST sell.
(Just not to Disney 😳😳!)
She's hardly 'part time' given she's worked on Bond since Octopussy 40 years ago and the last 3 films made a combined $2.6 billion dollars.
@@jamesatkinsonja sure, but now she's NO TIME
Absolutely agree. I'm a lifetime Bond fan who saw Dr. Lr. No as a young boy when it was first released. My frustration at the lack of news, new stuff, movie etc. Is testing my patience. Is EON trying to kill its golden goose of committed Bond Fans?
As long as the James Bond Community is always here pumping life into the Bond franchise, it will never die! After all there is No time to die! 😁 Roger Moore said it best “To this moment, and the moment yet to come.”
Perhaps but I don't know many millennials or Gen Z who gift a flying fuck about James Bond. Without a future audience it will become a relic of the past
If someone with the love and passion for the franchise would be at the helm, it would be thriving. Take risks! If it fails it fails but at least it's out there and is relevant. So much potential its a shame nothing has been done these past few years
David Zaritsky for producer!
If anything it's better the people doing Bond currently are connected to the franchise rather than a corporate hire who's just pumping out content to keep there job. I do think Star Wars is much less special for having frequent content rather than when it was the biggest franchise around because you only got a film every 3 years or so. Barbara B has worked on Bond since Octopussy and Micheal G. Wilson was involved in Goldfinger so they've spent most of there lives doing it. Besides, surely the Craig era did take massive risks [going back to doing a reboot and giving Bond a character arc for Casino] and were big hits.
@@jamesatkinsonja That's a fair point. Star Wars has been completely ruined in my opinion because of corporate influence. Will need to stay tuned, but hopefully something will come soon, there's so much potential and a whole new generation of fans to capture
(Bond fans to Eon when the next film releases)
"Where the hell have you been?"
"Enjoying death..."
There’s going to be a generation that grows up where SPECTRE and NTTD are the two most recent movies they can be introduced to in (at least) a 10 year span. I’d say it’s not encouraging.
Those two films are the worst.
That is not good…..AT ALL
But it has to be acknowledged that the Craig era in general had a following and he was very popular. Besides, most of his fans probably watched his whole saga [given were in the 'cinematic universe' generation] and both Spectre (nearly $900 million) and No Time to Die (nearly $800 million) had big audiences.
I'm just having my own James Bond adventures until the next one comes along.
Think killing off bond was the mistake
DC could have just ended with going into the sunset with Madeline and then
Introduce another actor playing 007 and create missions in between the bond novels or something but it’s not going to work if he died
Like Tony stark coming back after killed off
Casino Roayle doesn't follow the ending of Die Another Day at all. Bond has already done a hard reboot and franchises reboot all the time so I don't see the problem. You could easily bring Tony Stark back in a new film as long as it's outside the MCU. Besides, Hugh Jackman is coming back as Logan/Wolverine after he was killed off...
But Spectre ending like that and people didn't seem to like that so I'm not surprised they didn't do that.
No Bond is most certainly NOT played out! Compare the 25 Bond films that have dropped over the last 6 DECADES to over twice that (55?) superhero movies shat out the last 20 years! Copy n paste Superhero movies are well and truly played out, not James Bond films!
Preach on David, preach on!! Some great philosophical messages not about the Bond journey but application to life itself!
The world is not enough
From a content / Instagram point of view it really is difficult. My account is primarily chatting with friends around the world now, which I love.
But, the upside to this quiet period in Bond has meant that I have started to pick up older books and taken more of an interest in what I already have in my collection, rather than trying to add to the collection
I agree that the franchise isn't played out. I do feel, though, that they really need to go back to basics with the films and re-evaluate what made the franchise so special, in the past. It felt like, short of Casino Royale and Skyfall, the films in Craig's run kept getting messier and messier, losing a bit of the fun and magic that the franchise used to have. If nothing else, we'll always have the classics.
I remember feeling lied to when I saw Skyfall for the first time (I paid to sit in a cinema at noon on release day). I felt cheated that they still brought back the M-Q-Moneypenny superstructure, Craig films were supposed to be something different. The reason Bond is played out is the creative direction of Skyfall, Spectre and NTTD increasingly fell on the sick tired trope of "FAMILY." Not every group of people who end up together have a family dynamic, it's old shoddy thinking to keep applying family dynamics to everything and everyone. I find this family cliche to be the real sin of Craig's tenure because Craig is the wrong actor for it.
Great question David! Look at the flood of comments. They could have a cliff hangar finding Bond floating in the water…lost his memory…sound familiar? Craig said publicly he intended to kill Bond as a condition of hiring. He would surround Bond with “strong women” he hated Bond.
Brosnan surrounded himself with 'strong woman' too-Natalia, Wai Lin and Elektra king certainly hold there own against him as characters [and Jinx does in the action department even if she's not well written]. I don't think any Bond actor put in as much work behind the scenes as Craig did [as shown by the many injuries he sustained]. The only way that 'cliff hanger' would work if Craig played the part rather than an actor the audience has no connection too [and so it doesn't feel too 'Bourne Identity'] and you'd still have Madeline and Mathilde present [as unlike Kissy Suzuki in the novels, the MI6 team know who they are]. A hard reboot is a much easier sell.
What’s wrong with a blank slate, tabula rasa… I love the franchise but I can only go back so many times before it rewrites the memory or feeling I have of it. It’s a shame we have to eat table scraps and make something out of nothing. We’re starving really. And it’s one of the biggest names in movie history. Take your time to get it right eon, but don’t take eons.
Plenty of good non Ian Fleming books they should use as new plot material. It’d be great to have a Bond set in the 50s/60s.
Thank u David for your words in this video. Been having problems lately and what you said applied to more than 007. I’m glad I subscribed to you , YOU are a real winner and I like hearing from people like you. Keep it up and I’ll keep watching
For a couple of years now I’ve thought it’s time for Barbara and Wilson to pass the torch. They have lost their glow 🥶
They are taking a break because the decision to kill Bond was the worst ever that I think they will regret forever. There is no way out of it that will be good.
You can reboot it but then you cannot use any of the previous actors.
You can revive him, he never died, but then that would be too much to bear, it is like calling the fans beyond stupid.
You can restart everything from scratch with new actors but then now you know that James Bond can die anytime the producers run out of ideas and want something dramatic to make up for it.
Really really the dumbest decision ever to kill Bond.
And Daniel Craig supported it what a stupid man and a stupid decision from the man who says he’s a fan of the franchise give me a break
As a longtime Bond fan (since the early 1980s), I have been saying for years that Bond series is done. Not only have the producers seemingly lost interest in Bond, but the Fleming character really no longer fits the current zeitgeist. I refused to even watch NTTD in theaters as I could see that they were more interested in sacrificing this character instead of celebrating it. RIP Mr. Bond.
Same here, finally watched it on TV. I just wasn't interested when I heard what they had done. The worst Bond.
I think the current zeitgeist sucks.
@@1114gabby I agree completely.
You can tell the world has changed. Imagine the complaining if we had social media from 1989 to 1997…
No that gap was because of very very different circumstances.
There were legal rights issues being fought about.
None of that is happening now.
This is all just creative fatigue.
Goldeneye came out in 1995, filming commenced fall of 94 I think - no time to die began filming more than 5 years ago and there has been no court case to tie up the producers and the franchise - it’s more a simple case of Broccoli’s don’t care - they have our money now we can F Off
1989-1997 - that was 8 years and we had 3 excellent films in that time: LTK, GE & TND. In the last 8 years - from 2016-2014 - we've had precisely one Bond film - the abysmal NTTD - with no new Bond films on the horizon for at least the foreseeable future of another 3, 4 or 5 more years...
@@arthurlongshanks Each to there own as I really don't care for LTK personally and it's the lowest performing Bond at the box office adjusted for inflation while NTTD made nearly $800 million at the box office has a 83% score on Rotten tomatoes and was nominated for Oscars... TND was reviewed pretty middling at the time too [with a 57% Rotten tomatoes score].
I'd hate to see what Social media recation would be to 'Moonraker' especially given how 'un fleming' it is. I'm sure people would be moaning about Cubby to step down [and there was a reason why the return of Sean Connery was embraced at the time with Never Say Never again' despite the quality of that film].
Yep - totally agree David. That's why in my head-cannon Bond is still in a coma in hospital after being shot off the train at the start of Skyfall and the events in the rest of Skyfall and all of Spectre and all of NTTD never happened.
I prefer to focus on the positive and upbeat aspects of the Bond archetype - which were perfectly embodied by Sean Connery, Sir Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton and Pierce Brosnan. Pouty McPoutface was never Bond to me. I doubt EON will release another Bond film - I don't know what more Barbara Broccoli could do to indicate that she wants the Bond franchise to die. But like you said - instead of being negative about that - I turned it around and eliminated the problem by writing the most thrilling, visceral, sexy Bond-inspired story since Fleming himself instead. Am now working on the 2nd story currently. Here's to being a Problem Eliminator!
I truly don’t think it’s “played out”. One of the great strengths of Bond is that, he can be endlessly reinterpreted to be a reflection of the age he finds himself in at the time. I remember when the Cold War ended and many film critics said that Bond was now irrelevant because, if the Soviet Union was gone, what purpose does Bond serve in a post Cold War era? Well, then the War on Terror arrived and Craig’s Bond became VERY relevant. As long as Bond acknowledges that time he finds himself in and yet still retains the qualities that has served him well for over 5 decades, he’ll be just fine.
We’re not played out, but with respect, the Bond writers Neal Purvis and Robert Wade seem to be played out now. I mean, they’ve written every Bond film since 1999’s The World Is Not Enough. I think it’s time for new writers to come in who respect the legacy of Bond but want to do something fresh with the series.
Purvis and Wade themselves have said they'd be happy to move on and they have brought in fresh writers for the last 3 films but each time they've had to bring Purvis and Wade back to get the scripts going [and there work is nearly always re-written by many other writers]. For example they got Peter Morgan in to writer what became Skyfall but his script was 'too John Le Carre' and not what they were looking for.
@@jamesatkinsonja Yes, I know this. I'm just saying that it's time for new writers and a completely fresh approach like what Christopher Nolan did with Batman Begins. I'm not saying he should make the next Bond film, but there needs to be a new filmmaker with new writers for the next era of Bond. Just my opinion.
They also need to get rid of Phoebe Waller Bridge as a producer. She means death to any franchise (see Indiana Jones).
“No time to die” actually asked & answered it
Saf-“ I want the world to evolve, yet you want it to stay the same, let’s face it, I’ve made you redundant “
Bond-“No. Not as long as there are men like you in the world”
A Given the world current, we have a whole Host of villains to draw inspiration from, it just needs to capture the essence of the character against the villains of now. As far as a product line, I always thought someone like Hasbro or Valaverse could get the licensing and produce a 1/12 action figure line based off the entire series All the bonds various suits variants etc, their villians, the Bond girls, some of the vehicles etc. GI Joe classified, Action force, Indiana jones, ghost busters, the MCU, Star Wars. There is a market for it, Valaverse made an exclusive that is a strong nod to Craig in Casino royale from the Africa chase scene. I don’t believe 007 is played out, why? Bc we’re still talking about him.
If killing Bond is the only thing left to do, yes, you're played out.
Yes. It is not possible to do this character justice in the current era of film making. The last film made Bond out to be a worthless has-been, dead beat father, who no one even remembered or cared about all the lives he has saved over the years. Male escapism is no longer valued and is actively being systematically torn down. I have never binge watched Bond movies and there are years between viewings for me. They don't get old for me because of this and as far as I'm concerned I am done and happy we have what we have.
Did you actually watch No Time to die or is this just going off the trailer? The character who's questioning his worth gains respect for him to the extent she's fighting alongside him at the end and gives him his number back. He's brought back into the fold by a man who greatly respects him-Felix- and his helped by his friends Q and Moneypenny. He dies a hero saving the day and the film ends with Madeline telling his story to his daughter, showing how much his exploits are going to go down in legend. The idea it made him out to be worthless is total nonsense. It's like taking the scene from 'Goldeneye' where M says Bond is a 'sexist misogynist dinosaur' in isolation and ignoring that Bond is not showing her any respect either but by the time of 'The world is not enough' they have strong mutual respect.
I will say this no time to die has left a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths… it was the unthinkable James Bond dying that makes you question everything comes forward. I know I’ve done it. There was a point I would’ve said if they had marketed no time to die as the last part I would’ve definitely 100% gone with it, but you got those famous words at the end of the movie. James Bond will return that does give me hope though I do hate the fact that, when I was younger, it used to be two years apart now I feel I just keep getting older a decade when the next bond movie comes out
They did market NTTD as the last movie-Craig was quite open in saying it was his last one and it was very much build as a 'final chapter'. Of course it's going to get a reboot as has most properties but Craig was it's own continuity. I think they only put that there due to tradition anyway.
@@jamesatkinsonja I’m not talking about Craig’s last I meant no more as if EON would shut down
I agree with the comments here about the producers. We are now 5 years since the production end of NTTD & no new film in sight. The issue is NTTD. They don’t know what to do after that ending & they should have realised that. DC went on 2 films too many & it’s that unknown of whether he was coming back that has affected the franchise. Solution is easy.
You give a Tom Hardy a 2 picture deal with option of a 3rd & go back to basics
Fun , swagger , good villains & decent title song.
If we can’t have Nolan then get him to produce & write with his brother.
With Tom you can have a bit of fun - go to a Brosnan type formula - whilst the next stage is considered.
He’s bankable plus he’s telling us he wants it with the tux in the latest venom trailer 😅
Also.
Bring back David Arnold.
I agree with the David Arnold comment
There are two relevant sayings, and one of them will ultimately apply here. "Absence makes the heart grow fonder." or "Out of sight, out of mind.".
Here is an idea for a reboot. How about re adapting OHMSS, You Only Live Twice and The Man With The Golden Gun either as a trilogy or a series. The writers should be required to adapt the Bond and tone of the novels. Each movie should tell it's own contained story but be linked with the next. So in OHMSS we follow Bond on his mission to defeat Blofeld and Spectre, it ends in both triumph and tragedy. YOLT picks up on Bond's quest for revenge which he achieves but at the cost of his sanity and freedom. Golden Gun picks it up as the novel with Bond's failed assassination attempt on M and his restoration and redemption mission. I believe this could function as a kickstarter that will give Bond an interesting arc that can be built upon with future stand alone instalments, while maintaning the integrity of Fleming's Bond.
Perhaps NTTD was a dream and they could follow the example “Dallas” did with bringing Bobby back to life. NTTD really did a disservice to the franchise. The plot was similar to what was really going on in the world and they kill of Bond? What a mistake. At a time when the world needed a hero they killed him. Even in a normal time killing of Bond was a mistake. Bond needs to be big. Villians need to be big and their plans need to be big. Bond was fantasy and while the Craig films were good and more gritty, the fantasy was gone. Maybe I’m wrong but the fantasy needs to come back.
Godzilla has been around for what 70 years and “Minus One” took the world by storm and ended up Toho’s most successful film. So Bond isn’t played out, but needs the ingredients again that made it big in the first place. While Craig’s Bond films were good, they were like all other action films today. Bond always stood out and needs to again.
Yep - that's how it goes in my head canon - NTTD was a dream. So was Spectre and the whole "Brofeld" nonsense. Indeed so was most of Skyfall with all its nonsense plotholes and melodramatic pretentiousness.
In my head canon - Bond was shot by Eve Moneypenny off the top of a train at the start of Skyfall and the fall should have killed him but it didn't but he's been in a coma ever since having increasingly bizarre and ridiculous dreams - those being the plots of Skyfall, Spectre and NTTD. In Bond 26 he wakes up in hospital with Moneypenny and Tanner and Q and he's like "woah I had the most crazy dreams that M died and Blofield was my brother and Felix died and then I died some chick was 007 instead of me" and they're like "no James - don't be silly - that was all just a dream. You're still 007 and M's still alive and infact now you're awake you'd better come and report to her because she has a new mission for you" - cue the Bond theme music - DOONET DA DOO - DEE DOO DEE DOO - DA DA DOO!
Thanks for continuing with content, David. Bond will never die so long as ladies and gentlemen like your followers keep him going. We’re a proud fraternity ✌️
I myself feel they are working on it but keeping very quiet thanks for this video David really appreciate it
Franchise is dead.. Barbara let it happen
The EON-produced franchise, maybe. But, the CHARACTER of James Bond and his world? Absolutely not! No more than Sherlock Holmes or Dracula or other iconic characters were played out. Sure, the Universal and Hammer franchises had their day, but the character lived on and others came along to pick up the baton. Perhaps we'll see the same with 007.
Elvis died over 40yrs ago and still we are watching and talking about him. Bond is the same there is so much out there keep going.
Yeah, but nobody has tried to reimagine Elvis for a modern audience. We've just celebrated the brilliance of the man. Bond's essence has been diluted and will be further vandalised going forward given current day politics.
My love for Bond is at a low at the moment.
As Bond says in Goldeneye… “Hope springs eternal”. Its now getting on for 3 years since NTTD released. Surely that is enough of a break?
It’s longer still when you consider that they finished NTTD earlier than that and Covid delayed release.
@@jupiterfive3379 exactly. It's been 5 years since NTTD finished filming and when it was originally supposed to be released in 2019.
Cubby wouldn't have been wasting time sitting on his hands or 5 years.
@JacktheFilmFanatic-vu1nk its not so much that Barbara doesn't care for Bond - she actively hates the Bond franchise in a deep subconscious part of her psyche. Because the Bond franchise was her father's baby - his most loved baby - and when she was a child she felt that he loved Bond more than he loved her. It drove her insane with bitterness and jealousy. That's why she choose Daniel Craig for Bond in the first place - because they were BOTH determined to kill off Bond.
Poor Barbara still can't get over Craig's retirement although it came 10 years and 2 films too late!
@@arthurlongshanks hahaha WOW!
I think EON has had its day. The only way I can see it working is to adapt the novels very faithfully in the period they were set. The Toby Stephens radio versions on film or as Netflix type series. No colourblind casting and other woke concessions. There's surely enough to celebrate with 25 films over 60 odd years.
I can't wait for people to moan the faithful 'Goldfinger' adaption is 'woke' because they made Pussy Galore bisexual...oh wait that was from the book...
Great vid, David! I really like how you reminded us the importance of staying positive. I’m thankful that we have decades of Bond and I have memories of watching the films with family and friends. Thanks to celluloid and Fleming’s fiction, JB lives on forever.
I dont think it's dead, but it needs new blood. I'm not a fan of the current writers. Casino Royale worked because it was mostly based on Fleming's book. Everything since has been convoluted, dark, and melodramatic, with only occasional moments of Bond-like levity. They squeezed the fun out of Bond. So I hope the winds change with the next installment for the better, but I feel it'll only happen with new writers (or if they base the story on one of the books). I have little faith in the current writers. Hopefully, a new director will come along who shares this vision and brings a new story. I hate to say it, but with Craig's behind-the-scenes influence out of the picture, i think that will only help.
They also need to get rid of Phoebe Waller Bridge as a producer, if they want king-term success for the Bond franchise. PWB only knows how to do one thing: kill off the main character.
If you believe that, then why did you come back? Because we're under attack you know we need you, David!
That 007 reality show on Amazon just wasn't the answer for keeping the community engaged. I'm convinced that the contestants on that show had never seen a Bond film in their life. I'm not interested in spin-off content. I'm interested in the next film. It's a shame that Barbara and Michael don't seem to be.
But MI6, Bond, 007, none of it was even mentioned...It was the great "nothing".
I hope they are saving all this absence to turn into surprises. I hope by the end of this year one of these things would happen as a new actor announced, a 4k box set, the new video game, maybe an animated movie or 2 part animation series adapted from the comics maybe. There is so much that could and could’ve come, it’s sad to say the 40th anniversary during Die Another Day seemed more of like the time to be a bond fan than now but we can all hope
Should never have killed Bond off. If Fleming were alive, I doubt he'd ever give that a go ahead. They probably don't know where to go next. They wouldn't be in this position if they didn't decide to kill Bond unless it was to end the film franchise entirely. Unlikely though with "James Bond will return." at the end credits of NTTD. But with everything being quiet about the next Bond, it's not looking very good 🤷🏻♂️
Let's wait till James Bond day. Maybe there'll be some sort of announcement on that day.
I don't think killing Bond off has anything to do with it. It's completely irrelevant to a book writer or producer.
EON killed themselves off, it seems.
You are aware Fleming himself toyed with killing Bond off-'From Russia With Love' cliffhanger ending could have been Bond's death if Fleming hadn't been inspired to write more and Bond is missing, presumed dead at the end of 'You only live twice' [to the extent M in NTTD is quoting from Fleming's obituary] and it does feel that he might have added a 'sequel hook' as it feels like it could have ended with Bond retired. Besides, they deviated from his books from day one casting a working class Scottish actor for his upper class English hero. Bond is hardly the only franchise to kill it's lead off in recent years [even doing it in Logan hasn't stopped Hugh Jackman coming back for Deadpool 3].
The franchise is over. Barbara and Michael are tired. Current social landscape won't accept Bond (even if normal regular people want these kind of films).
"Normal?"
David your optimsm is appreciated. I just don't know how you can still be the captain of the Bond cheerleaders. "Bless your heart"
That ending to No Time To Die left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths. if the next James Bond is written and acted more like the non-angsty Bond then it may not be dead.
Calvin dyson made a great point in his 'emotional storytelling' video that you do need to give the actor something to work with. It can't be a cardboard character with zero development or material. Even in the Brosnan era you had things like the Elektra king storyline to play with Bond's emotions.
A dialogue from "THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH (1999)".
Said by " M", to Bond.
I'm proud to say I am a new Bond fan.
I watched them as a kid but did not appreciate it until now.
Always wanted an Aston Martin since playin' Night Fire as a kid.
I'm gonna buy An Aston Martin DB12 one day and get a drivers license just so I can drive that car.
Anyway I just wanted to say thank you for this channel.
A very positive video David. Thank you.
The producers have made a major error in allowing this paralysis. My Bond fan friends were frustrated at the ‘drought’ a while back but have since completely lost interest in the franchise. And after the sour taste left for many from the last film’s conclusion, swift and effective attention was needed. I suspect Mr G Wilson’s age has left the Broccoli-ship rather rudderless: neither the energy to press on, nor willingness to pass on the mantle. What a waste.
If we get the Gen Z bond, vegan teetotalers, I'm done finito adios amigos!
Definitely!!
They made a HUGE mistake killing off James Bond in the last film. A dreadful decision.
I find Bond Moments to enjoy every day -cheers to creating many more !
Totally get you on surrounding yourself in a positive environment. The non-stop spread of negativity is such an easy trap to fall into. ❤❤❤
I think there’s a divide for some of us who were fans of the books first. I read the books before my parents let me watch the movies.
There’s a lot of room to explore beyond the next film.
There’s also a wealth of untapped film inspiration for supporting characters. I’d could be game for a few Felix Leiter movies!
I get the feeling that Babs and Michael G aren't interested in "Bond gets his mission, goes out and does it, the end" type movies. I just don't think that thrills them. That's why there's such a delay. What they're interested in is something more, something different, something under the surface like we had with the (hit and miss) Craig movies.
Their problem is, how do they do that without repeating themselves or straying too far from the source material? How I would love to be a fly on the wall in their producer meetings...
Babs and Michael took influence from the Bourne films when they cast Craig. 2015's Kingsman: The Secret Service proved that a Moore Bond film still works in the 21st century. Dead Reckoning Part One felt more like Bond than No Time to Die.
There was a sense of finality about NTTD that I felt as I left the cinema and on each rewatch
Bond living on for the next adventure was always fine and good and I'd like to get back to that. I do wonder how much he'll have to change for the 21st century now though, he won't be allowed to be Bond anymore. I hope the next one isn't a Force Awakens-esque nod to the series and just stands alone and non-self aware and just "is"
This is that “lean period,” similar to 1990-1995 and 2003-2006. There are books to read, comics to paw through, blogs and podcasts to keep us occupied.
I think content creators have more latitude than we think. We can delve into the “what ifs:” potential actors, directors, brands, stories, etc.
I still say the journey we take from one film to the next is just as important as the Bond films we watch in the theater.
David, I always tell my young son that I am SO LUCKY to have grown up and lived through a time when there was so much creativity unleashed - whether it be the JAMES BOND franchise, or some of the greatest great rock music like AC/DC, VAN HALEN, etc. WE ARE SO LUCKY- of course we don't have to feel like we're "played out"- to the contrary- we can always CELEBRATE that we lived through this amazing time-- others in the future won't be as lucky as we were!
interesting! Been on a year long health time out from work, and re-watched a lot of the 90's brosnan bonds. They're my favourites!
Great video David! Honestly Bond is everlasting, it’s just up to the individual on how they will continue the fun this character provides.
I think they need to adopt the John Wick model of modest budgets and attention to more grounded stories. They spent so much on the last one and it didn't make enough money to be in the black. John Wick 4 cost $100M and looks as good as any recent 007 outing.
That would be amazing....so don't hold your breath they'll do it 😆
MGM said NTTD did make a profit on NTTD despite media rumours at the time. You could certainly make a Bond for less money as the new film probably will have a new/cheaper cast and the budget was inflated by production troubles [Tomorrow Never Dies cost nearly double the budget of Goldeneye because of the production issues]. Skyfall was mostly filmed in the UK and that's the most successful Bond at the box office.
And John work was amazing. Oh my God it blew me away.
All we have is "past" Bond for now. So I am diving deeper into all of that. I continue to put out Bond content, but few are finding it. That could be from less interest out there, but whatever I discover or learn about past Bond, I try to share still. I don't think Bond is played out, but the unknown future of the franchise seems to be a large black hole.
Fans can’t be expected to be excited for a character when there’s a 4-6 year gap between films. EON has failed to keep fans and audiences excited in those interim period, and when that happens, interest isn’t generated, hence why things feel so stagnant.
It’s just so simple just say bond will return and just keep them entertained in between like you know like have a raffle or some thing like you can win some Murch or something from the movie that was filmed or something like that just to keep us occupied, then on top of that you need to get on the ball and get it done because there’s a fan waiting five years to see Timothy Dalton back as my bond and being robbed of, that was so stupid very selfish
I'm not going to deny that the hiatus EON is taking isn't frustrating as a fan but there's a whole other side of the coin is that the literary side of Bond is thriving at the moment, we're in the middle of Kim Sherwood's Double O trilogy, Garth Ennis's comic run is about to conclude and the paperback of On His Majesty's Secret Service has just come out. So yeah the films get all the attention and there is a symbiotic relationship between EON and IFP but it shows that Bond as a character is far from being dead.
And in another 10 years the books at least will be the public domain and they already are in Japan for example, the all-female cast Casino Royale musical is a very creative take on the source material 🐬But I think Bond like Sherlock Holmes (who was also killed and came back) has endured and will endure because he's is endlessly adaptable and without wanting to sound too pretentious he's a modern hero.
Amongst the Bond community the franchise will probably never be played out. Unfortunately, I think amongst the normies, the franchise is dead and buried. That's a combination of a downturn in cinema goers in general, plus a disastrous EON strategy of too long between movie releases and the decision to kill Bond in order to placate Craig, rather than cater to audiences. All momentum has been lost and the franchise will be completely unknown to a new generation by the time they resurrect the character for the next installment. It'll also probably be a diluted version given Hollywood's current destructive adherence to EDI, which is not in the spirit of a franchise created in the last century.
The Craig films have been very successful with 'normies' [the last 3 made a combined $2.9 billion] and they seem to be higher regarded with them given No Time to Die is a healthy 7.3/10 on IMDB. It's on TV all the time and clearly still sells papers/gets clicks [given how often 'in the running for Bond' is used to sell an actors films] so it's clearly something people care about. Having all the Bond films was a big selling point for Amazon Prime. Frankly as Bond 26 will be a reboot, it should be easier to get more casual fans to get invested as they don't need any backstory. The 60th anniversary was big new too and Bond is an iconic character-particularly in the UK.
Craig's era was the resurrection of a dying star which was the Bond franchise. No doubt about it. You're quite right about the appeal amongst general audiences (at the beginning of the run). But that has been in decline as the franchise lumbered on towards the climax (damp squib that was NTTD). Streaming access of the back catalogue is not a measure of popularity, but a symptom of the writer /actor strikes combined with COVID which has left content providers with large gaps in new content availability and turning to long running franchises like Bond to patch the gaps meantime. Hollywood simply won't allow Bond to flourish in the 21st century. There will undoubtedly continue to be Bond films, but they will be a diluted shadow of the Fleming origin because a younger modern day audience stands opposed to anything remotely masculine. If that's your bag, have at it. Each to their own 👍
Totally agree with David, very well expressed 👍
Either people have the talent to entertain or they don’t. I could easily come up with a list of over dozen directions you could go. It’s time to change the formula again and I think that’s what the delay is.
The drought will only make us more thankful for when we get a new movie
I don't think Bond as a character is played out at all. With Daniel Craig being (sadly) done with the role, we're looking at a new Bond. If done correctly, it can (and hopefully will) completely reboot the franchise.
In my personal opinion, HENRY CAVILL would be the PERFECT new Bond and would 100% reboot the franchise. He would be an incredible Bond, with almost endless possibilities for movie plot lines.
People keep on asking me what is happening that they don't see any movement on the Bond franchise. They ask me if Bond is truly dead. I don't even know what to say anymore.
You say, “No.” There, easy :)
Amongst other things I am an author and I can tell it is not difficult to move the franchise forward and get back to good movies. They allowed the actor to get bigger than the legacy. I think Daniel was great in a couple of movies, he was ultimately given too much power. If required, Barbara should either step back or ask someone new to work with the ingredients. The right male lead and supporting cast will easily get this back on track.
Its clearly that Craig was a big part of the production right from the start. The original director of Quantum [Roger Mitchell] had worked with him before, as had the villain [Munich] and he was clearly doing a lot of heavy lifting and clearly worked well with the producers.
In one word: no.
In a bit more depth: Like any media franchise, there are times when nothing happens, and times when everything happens. James Bond is an evergreen brand - even without a movie, even if people aren't talking about it, James Bond is an institution. There is enough James Bond already out there for people to enjoy, discover for the first time, and delve into.
James Bond, like many other entertainment mythologies (Star Trek, Doctor Who, Marvel, Star Wars, DC...) - these aren't so much franchises anymore as they are institutions - even without any new 'content' out there, the depth of existing content is broad enough to keep fans coming back, and new fans to discover. For someone somewhere in the world, they are watching their very first James Bond Movie
The good thing is, is that just like Doctor Who, Star Trek, Star Wars, Marvel, DC... it is because of just how much James Bond is this evergreen brand, that there will always be people who want to write a James Bond story, direct a James Bond production.
Great talk. Again not played out at all. JB will return. And maybe sooner than we all think!
The Bond fanchise will never be played out? After Dalton did his two Bond films ( The Living Daylights-1987/ License to Kill-1989) there was a 6 year gap until another Bond film resurfaced in 1995 with Bronson (Golden Eye). But I will say this, the challenge will be finding great writers/stories/directors/ performers, etc... in todays Industry? The talent is very slim now? Nobody is really creative or hungry like they use to be? Nobody wants to see recycled stories or remakes? That's what makes the earlier Bond films that more special and timeless! They never get old because they were so well put together? But for the sake of argument, lets say Bond films will never return again, I'm totally cool with it because the Bond catalogue will live and go on forever....greatness is hard to replace or duplicate? Thank you Ian Fleming🎉
Craig and the producers killed the franchise.
Remember the last film was meant to come out at the end of 2019, it was delayed until early 2020 and then,,,,,which is why we got it in late 21,,,so really it’s now 5 years and counting since the last one,,,I have no hope now with the current producers in charge . A proper bond film in which bond is his old proper manly self would be a massive hit ,, but they will not do it ,,,,,madness !
I feel that Bond movies are finished I’m afraid, I mean if I was a producer of the films and wanted to draw a line under them I would probably kill him off, and….they did. I am a huge fan but I kind feel ok with it all being done.
We have such a huge back catalogue of great movies to re watch and I think I speak for all fans when I say they never get dull, no matter how many times you see them.
As for Bond channels/content creators, well even if Bond is finished, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for any of them to wane. Think of some other channels that are dedicated to old music albums, retro gaming etc.
If Bond movies are gone, the fans will always be around and there will always be a thirst for content by you tubers or whoever it may be. It may just mean a slight change in how/what content is put out there that taps in to what fans are interested in/enjoy. Great channel, keep up the great work, we will always stick around if you do!