Cool! I’m Prior AD as a Raven out of Hickam AFB and DAGRE out of Cannon AFB. 08-14 currently 19D and 11B out of the Oklahoma Army National Guard. Went through phase 1 and 2 of Army OCS. Good times 😎🇺🇸
Currently Security Forces and still finding my path in the career, came in wanting to do dagre and it is a bit hard to find the slots but finding people in Dagre online or in person wasnt a challenge and ive got to pick their brain. They said best decision theyve made in their career in "sf" to go Dagre.
@@OnesReady appreciate it sir, I’ve emailed someone within the program but I’m waiting for a short tour to put my follow on as hurlburt or just wait for an ams slot I’m not giving up thank you !
@@xWE4PONS If you get that Hurbie slot, and wanna live off base, try to find a place to in Navarre. Usually cheaper than in FWB. Deal with less summer traffic too
I am a Former Security Policeman, back when the career field was divided into Law Enforcement and Security ...I was a Security Specialist 6 years Active/9 years Air National Guard. I was stationed at Dyess AFB for 3 years in the Strategic Air Command..we had a squadron of B52D's..4 Nuclear uploaded on alert at all times. As an A1C I was a Sentry on uploaded B-52's or on a Boundary. I was a ART/SRT member and also a Fire Team member in a Armored Vehicle (we had 6 Fire Teams on Alert at all times).When I made Senior Airman (Below the zone). We also had 3 squadron's of C-130's. I did Fly Away Security. We trained 4 times a year in Air Base Ground Defense at Ft. Hood Army Base against the US Army 7th Calvary Scouts. I was on one of the first EST's..Emergency Service Team's (SWAT) in the Air Force. I got to attend the FBI SWAT School and we got to put on EST training demonstrations along with the Combat Control Team across the street from Security Control. (We loaded on 2 C 130's with a Combat Control Team climbed to 20,000 ft., the CCT did a halo jump. After deploying the CCT the 130's spiraled down and did an Assault landing on a dirt strip. We deployed in our Armored vehicles out the back of the C130's and took the objective, reloaded with the nuclear weapon we recovered from the “Terrorists” and did a Assault takeoff)!! I was stationed for 1 year in Turkey at a Secret MUNSS site. As a SGT...I was the NCOIC of Arms and Equipment for the Security detachment and also the Team Leader for the RRT ( Recapture and Recovery Team) a joint Turkish - American Anti-terrorist Team. When I rotated back to the World, I was assigned for 2 years at Langley AFB, VA to Headquarters Tactical Air Command. The unit I was in is the Tactical Air Command Guard...we were the Security for the CINCTAC (Commander and Chief Tactical Air Command..4 Star General). and I was a Flight Chief (SSGT) for Bravo Flight. During my time in the Alabama Air National Guard I got to go to "Sliver Flag Alpha" in Indian Springs, NV, the USAF SP Desert Warfare and Survival School. I did a lot of different things in the Security Police Field....AND LOVED EVERY MINUTE... except for the time I spent in a Turkish Military Prison..but that is another story! Some times I wish I had stayed in the Air Force........but I had a good career (25 years) as a State Trooper SWAT Sniper. If I had stayed in I would have would have been a Raven for sure.
From 1990 to 1993 i was the sole usaf security police instructor teaching tactics, weapons, escape and evasion to the 3rd combat communications group "the 3rd herd" (best in the air force). 4 other instructors with me: former tacp that taught combat first aid, radio man that taught survival, motor pool sgt taught vehicles and a desaster prepardness guy. Best job i ever had. They were first into desert shield/desert storm, south american drug war, haiti and serijevo. "Any time, any where." Even taught the oregon, washington and hawaiian air guard. Tinker afb, ok. 1990-93.😂🎉❤
@@MrSpotface The only shred outs of Security Forces is K9 and CATM (weapons instructors). DAGRE, RAVEN are school houses that a member would go to and if they complete it, they receive a certification for those (respectively) and they get to wear a tab on their uniform.
DAGRE and RAVEN are cool schools to go through. Something else people should look into is WepTac (Weapons and Tactics) or commonly known as weapons school.
Not an episode like our normal, but here is a Raven we met at the ATA. Phoenix Raven in the Air Force with TSgt Trevizo th-cam.com/video/ADiY-M9XqPk/w-d-xo.html
Hi Ones Ready. I don't know if you have done so already, but it would be great if maybe you can talk to someone who worked in AFSOC EOD, 28th EOD Company, TACPs from the 17th Special Tactics Squadrons, or SWCCs who worked in DEVGRU's Gray Squadron (if it doesn't violate OPSEC).
@@OnesReady Because I (and maybe others) would be very interested in hearing about the experiences of guys in those units. There doesn't seem to be a lot about AFSOC EOD, as an example. Same with SWCCs assigned to DEVGRU.
@@OnesReady Young at heart! Wait...wait...wait...did he say the DAGRE PT entrance test was a 35-lb ruck for 6 miles "at less than 9 minutes (pace)," or "in less than 90 minutes (15-min pace)?" The first would be crazy-fast, the second is not unreasonable. 🎒 🥾 or 👟?
So TRF is part of DAGRE? I’m so freaking lost! This is actually a career change decision for me. I’ve been training religiously the past 8 months originally wanting to go 18X but I’ve been told the Air Force deal with way less BS than big army but I don’t FLOAT! So I’ll never be a PJ or CCT. So my best bet with the AF is security forces/TRF.
So TRF is the tactical response force thats used for the security operations at Malmstrom, Minot, and FE Warren AFB. TRF isn't a specific class/school house that you go to and then now thats what you do. How it works is you arrive at the any of those duty stations, wait for them to hold try outs and then if you pass thats really it. Sure theres some schools you can go to that are ok and you learn a little more tactic stuff but its not anything what people hype it up to be but once you leave those duty stations, it doesn't follow you except saying that you got to do it (but im not taking away from what they do because its an important job). DAGRE is a school you go to which is designed to support Special Operations, but that's just it. Its a support element. You wont find Security Forces members who are DAGRE certified going out and performing Special Operations missions (I just mean acting as operators). The DAGRE certified members I have encounter basically fly out with an air craft and provide security for that air craft while the operators perform their mission. But again, like TRF, if the unit youre at doesn't have a DAGRE mission set, then you sort of just wear the tab to show that you've been through it. At the end of the day, it's good training and a cool experience but if youre looking into Special Warfare type jobs, neither Security Forces who wear a DAGRE tab, Raven tab, Air Commando tab, etc are special operations operators. Huge misconception, don't let anyone try and trick you. Source of my information is 14 years AD (still in) as a Security Forces Defender.
Please don't let my post deter you. Security Forces does have many amazing opportunities and schools to go to and TRF, DAGRE, RAVEN, etc all teach viable training.
For what? DAGRE? I don’t believe there is a DAGRE air guard contingent, but we can ask. The pipeline for active would be- switch services, go SECFO, establish yourself on team, apply for selection, get selected, hit training you need from there. It’s a short time gig- you’ll go back to REG AF after your DAGRE time is done. - A
Theres typically no specific rank requirement for any school except Professional Military Education (PME for short) what you'll need those is to have gone through basic training, tech school/training, and then your unit has to be able to offer/support sending you. Theres many variables to how a person would get to the schools.
You can join the Army at 18; I believe the 18X program is no more, so you’ll do a different job and then apply to SFAS. What age you get through depends. I’ll get a better answer for you. - A
@@OnesReady attacking people on a forum, tight! Your experience might be good, mine is that they’re useless and can’t do their job when asked. Doesn’t help that they act like they’re tier 1 on social media. No need to get butt hurt over it.
It’s unfortunate that you feel attacked; feel free to DM us and we are happy to talk it out. I think something to remember is that, although you can say anything you’d like, that does not absolve you from someone calling you on what you said; which is what happened. Thanks for your engagement. - A
i think they do pretty much the same thing, only difference is who they work with. as far as i know dagre focuses more on doing special operations support and ravens do more support for air mobility rather than spec ops. not 100% sure but thats what ive read.
From the video, it sounds like Dagres secure AF assets C-130 size or smaller during flight and on the ground working solo, duos, or trios. Ravens are securing C-17 size craft in fire team size elements. Again, this is just based on the video.
Aside from who they work with, what really separates DAGRE is that their mission is physical security of SOCOM assets in just about all areas. Meaning not just aircraft and aircrew, but SOF operators and medical elements. An example being working with STS for global access where the USAF doesn’t have to ask the Army for help or send in extra controllers to post security, but has dedicated teams from a career field that literally focuses on that task.
Cool! I’m Prior AD as a Raven out of Hickam AFB and DAGRE out of Cannon AFB. 08-14 currently 19D and 11B out of the Oklahoma Army National Guard. Went through phase 1 and 2 of Army OCS. Good times 😎🇺🇸
I can’t be air national guard, and be in DAGRE??
Or can I
@@Mc-bb8hbyes you can . Ag out of PA
@@Mc-bb8hbonly out of PA for guard
How was your experience in raven
Had an instructor in Raven school that was DAGRE as well. Badass dude! Got my eyes set on DAGRE next for sure.
How is being a raven?
My MTI at BMT was a Ranger Raven got pulled to restand up the AF Ranger Assesment program. Good guy.
Start with a R?
Was it sgt rasono
Currently Security Forces and still finding my path in the career, came in wanting to do dagre and it is a bit hard to find the slots but finding people in Dagre online or in person wasnt a challenge and ive got to pick their brain. They said best decision theyve made in their career in "sf" to go Dagre.
Message them. If you need help, let us know. We can hook up the intro. - A
@@OnesReady appreciate it sir, I’ve emailed someone within the program but I’m waiting for a short tour to put my follow on as hurlburt or just wait for an ams slot I’m not giving up thank you !
@@xWE4PONS If you get that Hurbie slot, and wanna live off base, try to find a place to in Navarre. Usually cheaper than in FWB. Deal with less summer traffic too
I am a Former Security Policeman, back when the career field was divided into Law Enforcement and Security ...I was a Security Specialist 6 years Active/9 years Air National Guard. I was stationed at Dyess AFB for 3 years in the Strategic Air Command..we had a squadron of B52D's..4 Nuclear uploaded on alert at all times. As an A1C I was a Sentry on uploaded B-52's or on a Boundary. I was a ART/SRT member and also a Fire Team member in a Armored Vehicle (we had 6 Fire Teams on Alert at all times).When I made Senior Airman (Below the zone). We also had 3 squadron's of C-130's. I did Fly Away Security. We trained 4 times a year in Air Base Ground Defense at Ft. Hood Army Base against the US Army 7th Calvary Scouts. I was on one of the first EST's..Emergency Service Team's (SWAT) in the Air Force. I got to attend the FBI SWAT School and we got to put on EST training demonstrations along with the Combat Control Team across the street from Security Control. (We loaded on 2 C 130's with a Combat Control Team climbed to 20,000 ft., the CCT did a halo jump. After deploying the CCT the 130's spiraled down and did an Assault landing on a dirt strip. We deployed in our Armored vehicles out the back of the C130's and took the objective, reloaded with the nuclear weapon we recovered from the “Terrorists” and did a Assault takeoff)!! I was stationed for 1 year in Turkey at a Secret MUNSS site. As a SGT...I was the NCOIC of Arms and Equipment for the Security detachment and also the Team Leader for the RRT ( Recapture and Recovery Team) a joint Turkish - American Anti-terrorist Team. When I rotated back to the World, I was assigned for 2 years at Langley AFB, VA to Headquarters Tactical Air Command. The unit I was in is the Tactical Air Command Guard...we were the Security for the CINCTAC (Commander and Chief Tactical Air Command..4 Star General). and I was a Flight Chief (SSGT) for Bravo Flight. During my time in the Alabama Air National Guard I got to go to "Sliver Flag Alpha" in Indian Springs, NV, the USAF SP Desert Warfare and Survival School. I did a lot of different things in the Security Police Field....AND LOVED EVERY MINUTE... except for the time I spent in a Turkish Military Prison..but that is another story! Some times I wish I had stayed in the Air Force........but I had a good career (25 years) as a State Trooper SWAT Sniper. If I had stayed in I would have would have been a Raven for sure.
About to go into Security Forces soon; have to complete basic first, tho; wish me luck
great video as always thank you Ones Ready team for all of your hard work
The boys! 🤘🏽⚔️
From 1990 to 1993 i was the sole usaf security police instructor teaching tactics, weapons, escape and evasion to the 3rd combat communications group "the 3rd herd" (best in the air force). 4 other instructors with me: former tacp that taught combat first aid, radio man that taught survival, motor pool sgt taught vehicles and a desaster prepardness guy. Best job i ever had. They were first into desert shield/desert storm, south american drug war, haiti and serijevo. "Any time, any where." Even taught the oregon, washington and hawaiian air guard. Tinker afb, ok. 1990-93.😂🎉❤
I'm PS army. Looking to go security forces and I'm definitely interested in DAGRE. Just hope I get placed somewhere I get the opportunity to do so
DAGRE: Deployed Aircraft Ground Response Element.
REAPER: Reconnaissance Expert, Airborne Pathfinder, Emergency Rescue.
STAR: Special Tactics Advanced Recon.
I haven't heard of those other ones mentioned. Are they also shred outs of security forces?
@@MrSpotfaceA REAPER is in 820th bds
@@MrSpotface The only shred outs of Security Forces is K9 and CATM (weapons instructors). DAGRE, RAVEN are school houses that a member would go to and if they complete it, they receive a certification for those (respectively) and they get to wear a tab on their uniform.
Does Raul have contact info, or POC for joining the PA Air Guard DAGRE section. I’m Prior active currently in the Air Guard.
Little disappointing to hear the likelihood of being apart of DAGRE, would love to be apart of their team.
What advanced training is available to dagre?
I'm 34 in great shape getting ready to join in, what are the optics with the airforce to allow me to join in the DAGRE?
DAGRE and RAVEN are cool schools to go through. Something else people should look into is WepTac (Weapons and Tactics) or commonly known as weapons school.
Would going Guard in the 193rd increase the likelihood of having an opportunity to go DAGRE? Thanks
@@jp.v.p no it would not.
This isn't the same Raul from
Forward Observations Group (FOG) right? I thought he was a GB 🇺🇲💪🏽🎯
Aponte! I believe we went to tech ALS together.
I am very interested in RAVEN. Yall should make a podcast with them
Not an episode like our normal, but here is a Raven we met at the ATA.
Phoenix Raven in the Air Force with TSgt Trevizo
th-cam.com/video/ADiY-M9XqPk/w-d-xo.html
Hi Ones Ready. I don't know if you have done so already, but it would be great if maybe you can talk to someone who worked in AFSOC EOD, 28th EOD Company, TACPs from the 17th Special Tactics Squadrons, or SWCCs who worked in DEVGRU's Gray Squadron (if it doesn't violate OPSEC).
we always start with yes- but why?
@@OnesReady Because I (and maybe others) would be very interested in hearing about the experiences of guys in those units. There doesn't seem to be a lot about AFSOC EOD, as an example. Same with SWCCs assigned to DEVGRU.
Really great stuff!
Always appreciate you! Keep grinding, young man 😎- A
@@OnesReady Young at heart!
Wait...wait...wait...did he say the DAGRE PT entrance test was a 35-lb ruck for 6 miles "at less than 9 minutes (pace)," or "in less than 90 minutes (15-min pace)?" The first would be crazy-fast, the second is not unreasonable. 🎒 🥾 or 👟?
So TRF is part of DAGRE? I’m so freaking lost! This is actually a career change decision for me. I’ve been training religiously the past 8 months originally wanting to go 18X but I’ve been told the Air Force deal with way less BS than big army but I don’t FLOAT! So I’ll never be a PJ or CCT. So my best bet with the AF is security forces/TRF.
So TRF is the tactical response force thats used for the security operations at Malmstrom, Minot, and FE Warren AFB. TRF isn't a specific class/school house that you go to and then now thats what you do. How it works is you arrive at the any of those duty stations, wait for them to hold try outs and then if you pass thats really it. Sure theres some schools you can go to that are ok and you learn a little more tactic stuff but its not anything what people hype it up to be but once you leave those duty stations, it doesn't follow you except saying that you got to do it (but im not taking away from what they do because its an important job). DAGRE is a school you go to which is designed to support Special Operations, but that's just it. Its a support element. You wont find Security Forces members who are DAGRE certified going out and performing Special Operations missions (I just mean acting as operators). The DAGRE certified members I have encounter basically fly out with an air craft and provide security for that air craft while the operators perform their mission. But again, like TRF, if the unit youre at doesn't have a DAGRE mission set, then you sort of just wear the tab to show that you've been through it. At the end of the day, it's good training and a cool experience but if youre looking into Special Warfare type jobs, neither Security Forces who wear a DAGRE tab, Raven tab, Air Commando tab, etc are special operations operators. Huge misconception, don't let anyone try and trick you. Source of my information is 14 years AD (still in) as a Security Forces Defender.
Please don't let my post deter you. Security Forces does have many amazing opportunities and schools to go to and TRF, DAGRE, RAVEN, etc all teach viable training.
What is the officer pipeline like for the air guard? I’m in the army as an 11B and thinking of switching too the air guard.
For what? DAGRE? I don’t believe there is a DAGRE air guard contingent, but we can ask. The pipeline for active would be- switch services, go SECFO, establish yourself on team, apply for selection, get selected, hit training you need from there. It’s a short time gig- you’ll go back to REG AF after your DAGRE time is done. - A
@@OnesReady Ahh right on. I must have got some information mixed up. I thought the air guard had a Dagre component. Thanks for the reply!
After you get ur first station when an what rank do you need to be for dangre
Theres typically no specific rank requirement for any school except Professional Military Education (PME for short) what you'll need those is to have gone through basic training, tech school/training, and then your unit has to be able to offer/support sending you. Theres many variables to how a person would get to the schools.
Still working on getting my green card to join the AF!
Good luck! - A
Before you were exposed to everything and obstacles how did you deal with the fear and anxiety in your heart?
And did you eventually adapt to it and lose all fear & anxiety?
You never lose it. To quote Hozier- Never kill your demons; put them on a leash. You learn how to harness that anxiety and use it.
Twelve 249s? Get some.
Sometimes overwhelming violence is all you need. 😎-A
Is there dagre in the reserves
www.afrc.af.mil/News/Article/2949630/duke-field-airman-among-newest-dagres/
Is 32 too old to try out for cct???
Nope! Limit is 39! - A
What age can you join green berets
You can join the Army at 18; I believe the 18X program is no more, so you’ll do a different job and then apply to SFAS. What age you get through depends. I’ll get a better answer for you. - A
@@OnesReady 18x you just have to be 20 by SFAS I think and they also have SFAS slots available at Benning to Infantry recruits
21 to join army green berets, 18 to join usaf blue berets
DAGRE is so useless
Tight! We disagree, but I’m sure you know better. Thanks for showing up to be negative, I’m sure you’re super popular at parties. - Aaron
@@OnesReady attacking people on a forum, tight! Your experience might be good, mine is that they’re useless and can’t do their job when asked. Doesn’t help that they act like they’re tier 1 on social media. No need to get butt hurt over it.
It’s unfortunate that you feel attacked; feel free to DM us and we are happy to talk it out. I think something to remember is that, although you can say anything you’d like, that does not absolve you from someone calling you on what you said; which is what happened. Thanks for your engagement. - A
@@komagik666 did you really just try to act like the victim 😂
@@komagik666 nobody attacked you. You made a claim without backing it up, and someone called you out on it.
I'm still Confused what's the difference between DAGRE & Raven. First time that I've heard of this. And it's as hard to get as a Sniper Slot?
i think they do pretty much the same thing, only difference is who they work with. as far as i know dagre focuses more on doing special operations support and ravens do more support for air mobility rather than spec ops. not 100% sure but thats what ive read.
From the video, it sounds like Dagres secure AF assets C-130 size or smaller during flight and on the ground working solo, duos, or trios.
Ravens are securing C-17 size craft in fire team size elements.
Again, this is just based on the video.
Aside from who they work with, what really separates DAGRE is that their mission is physical security of SOCOM assets in just about all areas. Meaning not just aircraft and aircrew, but SOF operators and medical elements. An example being working with STS for global access where the USAF doesn’t have to ask the Army for help or send in extra controllers to post security, but has dedicated teams from a career field that literally focuses on that task.
@@jacobking7800 great description
Great answer and 100% correct. Thanks for engaging. - A