Completely disagree with needing attack speed on this hero. This hero has too many abilities that either deal % right click damage (Echo slash, Grappling Claw) or severely reduce the value of attack speed (Falcon Rush). These abilities, combined with the fact that Katana has a +20% dmg up and the DoT, make this hero scale absurdly well with attack damage instead. Imo the focus of his itemization should primarily be survivability and attack damage.
Just wanna share this assassination combo by sumiya when you have aghs. Should be on Katana - D - W (SAI) - D - W (KATANA)- D - Q (SAI) - D - Q (KATANA) - D - R (SAI) - D - R (KATANA) - E Shard (KATANA) This combo can deal 3.5k - 4k damage with only aghs. You can build tank when you are using this combo.
Kez is heavily countered by Nyx, Shadow Demon (illusion can proc the passive and not only 1 but 2 debuff and also shard can dispel his passive from working on you)
5:30 Enigma, Bane, etc can for sure interrupt Kez. Im not certain if this is what you wanted to tell us but it sounded like there are no ways to disable it.
How to balance it idea for Icefrog: Make two facets for each skillset as starting skillset, and then make weapon swap attached to his level 6 ulti. So people cannot take easy kills at level 2... Problem solved. The hero gets its power spike too early for now. Also make weapon swapping just a little pain (require mana or add cast time) so people would buy aghanims as core item (remove manacost and instant cast).
One suggestion, why dont you make guides with video? This is much better then normal notes, because, here you can tell us the reason behind them, good luck and thanks for guides 🙂
Something I found that seems really powerful is that, with aghs, the two Qs combo together. Switch discipline -> falcon rush -> switch disciple -> Q, and the AOE slash will summon an after image to hit every enemy hit in the AOE. Which is good for farming (tho extremely mana intensive - maybe good for taking stacks) as well as in fights. Could consider getting aghs first to use as a farming item maybe? Though horrible buildup, so I think something cheaper that helps with mana like diffu/orchid/echo saber first into aghs is better. Any thoughts on this combo?
Just go battlefury -> manta then aghs like the usual am build Also after using sai Q use sai ult then katana Q. Katana Q hits the marked enemies with 200% CRIT dmg and stunning them all and the dmg actually counts as katana stack
Do you think Initiator/Semi-tank Kez would work in any way? I can see him as a constant nuisance for the enemy just dashing in and out, baiting abilities and attention.
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So far it seems like he should strictly be pos 1. Similar to an AM or Slark etc. if you try to play him as Pos 2 or 3 then you might get away with it depending on the matchup but you’ll probably be griefing
stupid hero, way too strong rn, his kit do way too much, invis, life steal, stun, silence, crit, regen reduction, DoT. Also I see a lot of in-game guide that buy Echo Saber, but you don't trigger the 2nd attack if you use Falcon Rush, another note is Echo Slash can trigger Falcon Rush's secondary attack, so Aghs boost your damage by a lot. If your Echo slash hit multi target, let's say 5 hero, all of them will get hit by the secondary attack. with Maelstrom/Batte fury it's stupid. If you buy Manta, the illusion's Kazurai Katana stance is different stack, so if you pop it with agh shard's active you only pop the real hero's stack, still a great item though.
Here is the tentative guide for Kez. Please give it a Thumbs Up so it can appear in-game: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3362336316
Completely disagree with needing attack speed on this hero. This hero has too many abilities that either deal % right click damage (Echo slash, Grappling Claw) or severely reduce the value of attack speed (Falcon Rush). These abilities, combined with the fact that Katana has a +20% dmg up and the DoT, make this hero scale absurdly well with attack damage instead. Imo the focus of his itemization should primarily be survivability and attack damage.
bro what can you do hes legend
I really really hope they add a third weapon and have 3 facets be 2 weapon combos out of the 3
Just wanna share this assassination combo by sumiya when you have aghs.
Should be on Katana - D - W (SAI) - D - W (KATANA)- D - Q (SAI) - D - Q (KATANA) - D - R (SAI) - D - R (KATANA) - E Shard (KATANA)
This combo can deal 3.5k - 4k damage with only aghs. You can build tank when you are using this combo.
With my old clumsy fingers
I'll never be able to play such hero 🥲
Cry me a river
@@GurneroMaelstrom Who hurt you?
@@noobgod3216 Probably someone on registered sex offender list.
You can practice using it with bots at least
play him as support, silence spammer from a distance 😂
I have used your guides for years! Just discovered your youtube channel , cheers :) Best guides, ty for your work!
Thanks for coming ♥️
Kez is heavily countered by Nyx, Shadow Demon (illusion can proc the passive and not only 1 but 2 debuff and also shard can dispel his passive from working on you)
5:30 Enigma, Bane, etc can for sure interrupt Kez.
Im not certain if this is what you wanted to tell us but it sounded like there are no ways to disable it.
Shadow demon is my counter to this. Disruption and purge deatroys kez even with bkb.
Hoping that Valve with Kez hinted patch prioritazing melee cores
How to balance it idea for Icefrog: Make two facets for each skillset as starting skillset, and then make weapon swap attached to his level 6 ulti. So people cannot take easy kills at level 2... Problem solved. The hero gets its power spike too early for now. Also make weapon swapping just a little pain (require mana or add cast time) so people would buy aghanims as core item (remove manacost and instant cast).
One suggestion, why dont you make guides with video? This is much better then normal notes, because, here you can tell us the reason behind them, good luck and thanks for guides 🙂
I would love to do that but it takes so much time 😭
@@TorteDeLiniAppreciate you making this one, looking forward to trying this stuff later
i played him as support (prio 2nd skill) gave me unlimited silence and considerable damage. it's like spamming PAs dagger but with silence 😂.
Something I found that seems really powerful is that, with aghs, the two Qs combo together. Switch discipline -> falcon rush -> switch disciple -> Q, and the AOE slash will summon an after image to hit every enemy hit in the AOE. Which is good for farming (tho extremely mana intensive - maybe good for taking stacks) as well as in fights. Could consider getting aghs first to use as a farming item maybe? Though horrible buildup, so I think something cheaper that helps with mana like diffu/orchid/echo saber first into aghs is better. Any thoughts on this combo?
Just go battlefury -> manta then aghs like the usual am build
Also after using sai Q use sai ult then katana Q. Katana Q hits the marked enemies with 200% CRIT dmg and stunning them all and the dmg actually counts as katana stack
Are you ever going to make an in-game guide for Spirit Breaker?
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It's in the game, it's just bugged.
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=128972272
@@TorteDeLini Lol, thanks a lot)
I love going vlads into agh into shard mid
Do you think Initiator/Semi-tank Kez would work in any way? I can see him as a constant nuisance for the enemy just dashing in and out, baiting abilities and attention.
Tbh, he's super fragile
Now this hero makes so much sense. I was soooo confused
9:20 omnislash shodo sai interaction fixed. only works for 1 slash
loved the video and the guide!
Been waiting for this.
1:23 great summary assuming that you wont lvlup your passives ;)
Great hero concept, cool breakdown 👍🏻
Todos os heroes que você coloca como posição 1, são na safe lane, ou alguns são no mid? Wind é posição 1, e você pede pra comprar ward.
I just KEEEEZED my Algorithm 😳
Luul
RIP Bruisers
Thanks tort!
00:03 missing "need"
Fuck
I do find i have a better rate of bash with Kez compared to just me screaming BASH? BASH? BASH?? on Bara or void 😂
Saudações do Brasil! Estou esperando você criar a build pra eu poder jogar com o hero! Ia ser bom se tivesse um serviço de legenda em português, para eu poder entender o que você diz. Você é famoso em vários países, provavelmente. Poderia considerar legendas seus videos em outros idiomas.
I miss the day when heroes may come with 1, 2 or even 3 passives like Skeleton King.
I'm glad most people don't 😅
Skeleton king was awesome
@@kishikume182 I'm curious if that's true, let's settle this like gentlemen by upvotes, shall we?
@@ChinaNumbaWon Skeleton king was awesome, it is. Beauty in simplicity.
DONT forget Dk
What page do you use to see match historial? dotabuff?
Dota2protracker.com
Bout time they released this update. Bruisers were op! But tbh - this hero is gonna get picked or banned every game till nerf.
I JUST KEZZED MY PANTS
This is top much, he has all the abilities for cores and support, from lifesteal to invisibility etc
Yah. He literally can do everything. I dodged ravage in my ult one game. lol
Top much?
His versatility gives me invoker vibes
Still trying to play him, gets banned almost instantly whole night long 😢
So far it seems like he should strictly be pos 1. Similar to an AM or Slark etc. if you try to play him as Pos 2 or 3 then you might get away with it depending on the matchup but you’ll probably be griefing
He has early damage potential and utilities, and he has high skikl ceilings, i can see him played as pos2
feels like kez and ringmaster got scamed on thier inate abilities
yeah need he offlane build and mid
@torteDeLini have you stoped making in game guides ?
No, I still make them
@@TorteDeLini good to hear , the reason is I can't seem to find your guides now usually they are on top of the suggested list.
@@MrAshar101 they're still at the top under the name - Thunderpick
@@TorteDeLini oh ok ...wasn't aware of the name change thanks . Glad to hear the trusty old guides are still there.
Hero spammers with this hero will be unstoppable
i think bloodseeker is good against this hero
Ez MMR
Silencers ult just cancelled my channeling 😢
Sunraku lol
mate, middle mouse on website for auto scroller. your welcome.
Thanks
Bro try spell his name backward
stupid hero, way too strong rn, his kit do way too much, invis, life steal, stun, silence, crit, regen reduction, DoT.
Also I see a lot of in-game guide that buy Echo Saber, but you don't trigger the 2nd attack if you use Falcon Rush, another note is Echo Slash can trigger Falcon Rush's secondary attack, so Aghs boost your damage by a lot. If your Echo slash hit multi target, let's say 5 hero, all of them will get hit by the secondary attack. with Maelstrom/Batte fury it's stupid.
If you buy Manta, the illusion's Kazurai Katana stance is different stack, so if you pop it with agh shard's active you only pop the real hero's stack, still a great item though.
at 8"36 my head started to spin and hurt from all this bs league of legends hero
He is surprisingly very dota-like in terms of skills, several point and clicks, only a couple of "skillshots"
Modern and fluid hero = league? Lmao you’re just wrong
@@magentaurous4025 ehhh ever since Pango they've def been taking things from League that they havent traditionally done
i think ringmaster is better sorry
Different roles. Completely irrelevant
Better support for sure. People should just stop playing kez as support