@@hellium6613 I agree Kipchoge's performance at Boston shouldn't be the reference. But you can't denie that Evans having won three major tough marathons in his last three appearances is something to be underrated. Because who else has won three like him? I can only rank goat Kipchoge and Kelvin kiptum above him.
Tbf there is no pacing and the last two Olympics were won in 2.08 - if Kiptum goes out like usual with a 61 minute half marathon, there will be guys who can hold that pace almost all the way, but nobody will be able to hold onto him if he drops his usual
Talk about how crazy this olympics will be!!!! Kelvin Kiptum is able to perform a sub 2:02 everywhere he runs and Kipchoge Wants to win his third gold medal, so, are you getting it? A true historical battle, I am extremely excited about it
Paris forecast could be +28C° or 83F° and superhuman Kiptum will be surely affected by mother nature. No one will ever outrun weather conditions and also it's possible Kiptum will not win, there's deep field of marathoners and someone always do the best in the heat. Actually Kipchoge has shown potential in 2016 Rio.
You can’t predict weather. The temperature range at this season is very wide, it may be 15C, 59F (on the morning), for instance 2023, just as well as over 40C or 105F, for instance 2019. Just wait and see.
@19Kamau79 in rio kipchoge only ran 2.08 (I say 'only' 😅) so it wasn't as if he was throwing in the kitchen sink - i don't imagine the temperature will have a huge impact in Paris. If its a slow race guys like Kipchoge and Kiptum will be able to pull away towards the end, and there would be potential for an upset, but if kiptum leads with a 61' first half then nobody is catching him in the 2nd half
@joelmacinnes2391 Kiptum will hit the wall if he goes out 61half in the heat, thought if there's rainy and cool day in Paris no runner will follow him. We don't actually know his potential as he has done three cool weather marathons and he did them sensationally. Heat or altitude affect individually all of us no matter are you jogger or elite or best of the best.
Thank you for your intelligent comment. Olympic Marathons are always strategic and Paris will be no different. The possibility of hot weather and a rolling hilly course will see to that. Attrition will be the name of the game again.
It will be Kipchoge, Kiptum and Amos Kipruto for the team is my guess But the ethiopian Team is great aswell specially in tactical races, there is Sissay Lemma, Tamirat Tola, distance GOAT Bekele, and another great racers, as long as they don’t nominate Lelisa Desisa I would bet they get at least one medal
Olympic route is unpredictable and tactics is more important than pure brute pace in familiar races route such as Berlin or Chicago or London for even the most seasoned and experienced winners
I don't think so. Did you see the schedule ? Day 2: 5000m heat, Day 5: 5000m final, Day 6: 1500m heat: Day8: 1500m: final, Day 9: 10000m: final, Day 11: Marathon final. I am pretty sure than Hassan first ambition is now to win the Olympic marathon. She also said that Kipyegon was an inspiration and that she still wanted to increase her speed. For a gold in Marathon and another medal, 1500m and Marathon, or 5000m and Marathon are two options. She is a double world champion in the 10000m and I guess she will cancel the 10000m to have a chance to defeat Kenyan and Ethiopian armadas in the most prestigious race. A triple including the Marathon, would be crazy but everything is possible with SH..
@@Lotschi I would have too. But she believes that all is up to God's will and that she may have a bad chance in a single event ("life is made of up and down" she said after falling on the last 10000m WC final). She also loves to push herself to the limits and challenges. That's her faith or psychology and why she works harder than any other athletes...
Haha that’s actually pretty good idea cause Australian marathoners are very subpar compared to other countries so the Kenyans would get famous here for sure if they decided to migrate
I keep clicking on your videos, TRP. I keep watching them to the end. I keep being glad I did. BUT ... How I wish you'd refrain from "sensationalizing" the titles of your videos (almost like your click-baiting). It feels so cheap; so unworthy of you.
Both men’s and women’s Olympic marathon teams look insane. Kenya and Ethiopia will certainly be dominating and will probably take the podium. I’m curious to see who Ethiopia selects.
Every time I talk to someone from East Africa I ask them about the distance running competition between the nations. One thing is sure if the people who do the selection of the national teams do not get it right they get run out of the country before sun down. They are like Brasileiros when it comes to their futbol selection team. The debate rages for four years between World Cups. I hope for the selectors sake they get it right. Folks can live with Florida State sitting the final two dances of the year out. Just as long as the selection committee never shows up in Florida if Michigan wins and Florida State wins convincingly. The games people play.
Chebet may not be a pick, because his known flat race speed to date is not as strong as some of the others. He is excellent on a hilly course - ironically, perhaps the world's best on the men's side? - but Paris 2024 is a flat course. It's harsh, but that can be how selection goes.
I was chatting with a Kenyan today. We were asking ourselves why Kelvin would waste himself by doing Paris when he could run Rotterdam then Valencia and potentially best his record and win a million dollars.
Yes prestige or 1 million Euros? I think I'd go for the money. Sadly, I feel money could deprive fans of the race they would like to see. I hope I'm wrong though.
@@nickatnite16 I don't think so as she has nothing left to prove on multiple track events. Did you see the schedule ? Day 2: 5000m heat, Day 5: 5000m final, Day 6: 1500m heat: Day8: 1500m: final, Day 9: 10000m: final, Day 11: Marathon final. I am pretty sure than Hassan first ambition is now to win the Olympic marathon. She also said that Kipyegon was an inspiration and that she still wanted to increase her speed. For a gold in Marathon and another medal, 1500m and Marathon, or 5000m and Marathon are two options. She is a double world champion in the 10000m and I guess she will cancel the 10000m to have a chance to defeat Kenyan and Ethiopian armada in the most prestigious race. A triple including the Marathon, would be crazy but everything is possible with SH...
How many athletes are selected per country? Is there a limit? Among those who are picked, who is less deserving than anyone off the list, and on what criteria? As they say, try and be more critical in your analysis.
Yh in 2016 bekele was the fastest runner for Ethiopia in 2020 he was in the top 3 I believe, yet still not picked. I understand the selection process but that man's time really does make me think about if there's a divide between him and the Ethiopian committee
@@BugattianVeyronian many is a strong word to use on the national record holder of Ethiopia from 2k indoors to the marathon lol(ignoring half m and other odd distances events )
I don't think Kipchoge will win in 2024. He's still incredibly quick but we've seen numerous people beat his times. Berlin was his fastest this year and we've just seen that broken at Valencia and, of course, the new WR.
We don't know what we don't know. He mentioned he wasn't feeling his best in Boston. It was his first time on a hard course (not fast course like Valencia or London). Also take into account that sometimes pros use some races as training for other races so they don't go all out on some.
I feel like Eliud and Kimptum will push each other super hard at the Olympics and i wouldn't be surprised if they break the two-hour mark. In my personal opinion Eliud is better then kimptum because of his track records and he has more experience so i think it's going to be a close race for Kimptum and Eliud at the Olympics. You guys tell me your thoughts.
@@jameschaves5723 your right i don't really follow the sport i just started running cross country a couple months ago and found some cool marathon runners. I am sorry for my comment on this video but you don't need to get so mad about it. based off your profile im guessing your an experienced runner I'm not as much.people on this app should learn to take a chill and not attack everything they disagree with
@@ccbgaming6994"reigning" doesn't mean he's "currently" in top shape now. What's stupid is letting your level of fitness from years ago define your current olympic qualification. No one might beat him from years ago, but a guy or two younger than him might beat him now.
Chebet not even in the top 10 list is crazy. HE LITERALLY BEAT KIPCHOGE THOS YEAR!
Evans Chebet missing in the list is a big mistake. He is top 4 in Kenya I don't know how he missed
TBF a lot of other athletes beat kipchoge too...
@@hellium6613 I agree Kipchoge's performance at Boston shouldn't be the reference. But you can't denie that Evans having won three major tough marathons in his last three appearances is something to be underrated. Because who else has won three like him? I can only rank goat Kipchoge and Kelvin kiptum above him.
It's because Evans Chebet's last name doesn't start with a "K"...
Evans missing on the list is very strange. The dude won tough marathons. He is in great form. I expected Evans, kiptum and Kipchoge.
Cannot wait to see all of the best finally battle it out, I am guessing those that go out with Kiptum will pay and he will easily win
Tbf there is no pacing and the last two Olympics were won in 2.08 - if Kiptum goes out like usual with a 61 minute half marathon, there will be guys who can hold that pace almost all the way, but nobody will be able to hold onto him if he drops his usual
It's a special hilly course for the Olympics.
@jeremapp4378 that makes it interesting, much harder to pace for someone like kiptum who's runs are almost mechanical
Talk about how crazy this olympics will be!!!! Kelvin Kiptum is able to perform a sub 2:02 everywhere he runs and Kipchoge Wants to win his third gold medal, so, are you getting it? A true historical battle, I am extremely excited about it
Paris forecast could be +28C° or 83F° and superhuman Kiptum will be surely affected by mother nature. No one will ever outrun weather conditions and also it's possible Kiptum will not win, there's deep field of marathoners and someone always do the best in the heat. Actually Kipchoge has shown potential in 2016 Rio.
You can’t predict weather. The temperature range at this season is very wide, it may be 15C, 59F (on the morning), for instance 2023, just as well as over 40C or 105F, for instance 2019.
Just wait and see.
@19Kamau79 in rio kipchoge only ran 2.08 (I say 'only' 😅) so it wasn't as if he was throwing in the kitchen sink - i don't imagine the temperature will have a huge impact in Paris. If its a slow race guys like Kipchoge and Kiptum will be able to pull away towards the end, and there would be potential for an upset, but if kiptum leads with a 61' first half then nobody is catching him in the 2nd half
@joelmacinnes2391 Kiptum will hit the wall if he goes out 61half in the heat, thought if there's rainy and cool day in Paris no runner will follow him. We don't actually know his potential as he has done three cool weather marathons and he did them sensationally. Heat or altitude affect individually all of us no matter are you jogger or elite or best of the best.
He is dead so you are dead wrong
Using time as the only qualifier is bull, because the Olympics is not a time trial race. Samuel Wanjiru's time of 2:06:32 is the Olympic record.
Thank you for your intelligent comment. Olympic Marathons are always strategic and Paris will be no different. The possibility of hot weather and a rolling hilly course will see to that. Attrition will be the name of the game again.
It will be Kipchoge, Kiptum and Amos Kipruto for the team is my guess
But the ethiopian Team is great aswell specially in tactical races, there is Sissay Lemma, Tamirat Tola, distance GOAT Bekele, and another great racers, as long as they don’t nominate Lelisa Desisa I would bet they get at least one medal
Don't be concerned about silly short list, Chebet will be on the lineup.
Olympic route is unpredictable and tactics is more important than pure brute pace in familiar races route such as Berlin or Chicago or London for even the most seasoned and experienced winners
"K" is the answer! Evans is not in the list because his name doesn't start with K.
I wonder what Sifan Hassan will do.
She tried the triple at the world championships but maybe she has a greater chance in the Marathon.
The goat
I don't think so. Did you see the schedule ? Day 2: 5000m heat, Day 5: 5000m final, Day 6: 1500m heat: Day8: 1500m: final, Day 9: 10000m: final, Day 11: Marathon final. I am pretty sure than Hassan first ambition is now to win the Olympic marathon. She also said that Kipyegon was an inspiration and that she still wanted to increase her speed. For a gold in Marathon and another medal, 1500m and Marathon, or 5000m and Marathon are two options. She is a double world champion in the 10000m and I guess she will cancel the 10000m to have a chance to defeat Kenyan and Ethiopian armadas in the most prestigious race. A triple including the Marathon, would be crazy but everything is possible with SH..
@@patrickgerardin5001 I would have assumed that if she tries the marathon she cancels the short race.
@@Lotschi I would have too. But she believes that all is up to God's will and that she may have a bad chance in a single event ("life is made of up and down" she said after falling on the last 10000m WC final). She also loves to push herself to the limits and challenges. That's her faith or psychology and why she works harder than any other athletes...
It might be time for some of these Kenyan athletes to migrate to Australia, they'd get selected every day of the week. 😂
Haha that’s actually pretty good idea cause Australian marathoners are very subpar compared to other countries so the Kenyans would get famous here for sure if they decided to migrate
Rest in peace Kelvin. 👊🏿
Bruh, everybody from Kenya has a last name starting with K
And there’s David rudhisa haha
Tribal naming system lol, most come from one tribe but some other tribes are represented as well
I keep clicking on your videos, TRP. I keep watching them to the end. I keep being glad I did. BUT ...
How I wish you'd refrain from "sensationalizing" the titles of your videos (almost like your click-baiting). It feels so cheap; so unworthy of you.
Hmmm.... makes you think..🤔
It really does. Lots of thoughts going on through the old noggin’
Both men’s and women’s Olympic marathon teams look insane. Kenya and Ethiopia will certainly be dominating and will probably take the podium. I’m curious to see who Ethiopia selects.
It will be pretty hot the temperatures so i don't see fast times
Every time I talk to someone from East Africa I ask them about the distance running competition between the nations.
One thing is sure if the people who do the selection of the national teams do not get it right they get run out of the country before sun down.
They are like Brasileiros when it comes to their futbol selection team. The debate rages for four years between World Cups.
I hope for the selectors sake they get it right.
Folks can live with Florida State sitting the final two dances of the year out.
Just as long as the selection committee never shows up in Florida if Michigan wins and Florida State wins convincingly.
The games people play.
I think the dark horse will be Tola. He has the best performance on the most difficult course (NYC) this year
Yeah Chebet kicked some major butt in Boston. He’s gotta be on the team
I'm sure he will join in too.
I think Chebet is going for 3peat in Boston next year. So he may have opted out too
Chebet may not be a pick, because his known flat race speed to date is not as strong as some of the others.
He is excellent on a hilly course - ironically, perhaps the world's best on the men's side? - but Paris 2024 is a flat course. It's harsh, but that can be how selection goes.
Paris is far from flat!!!
@@jameschaves5723 Paris is not flat no - but the course they've planned around Paris is.
Kenya could field 3 Olympic marathon teams probably take 8 out of the first 10 places.
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I was chatting with a Kenyan today. We were asking ourselves why Kelvin would waste himself by doing Paris when he could run Rotterdam then Valencia and potentially best his record and win a million dollars.
not everything is about money
@@blackbelt2000Not many Kenyans run for glory
@@And-rc9yy well, if Kipchoge or Kiptum run the olympics then we'll know the answer won't we?
Yes prestige or 1 million Euros? I think I'd go for the money. Sadly, I feel money could deprive fans of the race they would like to see. I hope I'm wrong though.
I like siffan hassan for the win. Might not be just kenyans winning. If she runs the marathon.
Nahh,she'll be on track for multiple events
@@nickatnite16 I don't think so as she has nothing left to prove on multiple track events. Did you see the schedule ? Day 2: 5000m heat, Day 5: 5000m final, Day 6: 1500m heat: Day8: 1500m: final, Day 9: 10000m: final, Day 11: Marathon final. I am pretty sure than Hassan first ambition is now to win the Olympic marathon. She also said that Kipyegon was an inspiration and that she still wanted to increase her speed. For a gold in Marathon and another medal, 1500m and Marathon, or 5000m and Marathon are two options. She is a double world champion in the 10000m and I guess she will cancel the 10000m to have a chance to defeat Kenyan and Ethiopian armada in the most prestigious race. A triple including the Marathon, would be crazy but everything is possible with SH...
Chebet smoked kipchoge in boston and has a PB of 2:03:00
Funny how all the last names in the men’s category start with K!
K for Kenya😅😅... Im a Kenyan
Rumors he was in the ‘lab’ waiting for final results.🤞🏾
Why do they do it?
Duh! MoMoney, MoMoney! :) Thanks!
I suspect he must be injured if he hasn't raced since or been picked.
How many athletes are selected per country? Is there a limit? Among those who are picked, who is less deserving than anyone off the list, and on what criteria? As they say, try and be more critical in your analysis.
I always think to myself it's crazy how bekele has missed the Olympics since 2012 and not been picked despite how fit he was.
Bekele was hit or miss though in marathons. They go by certain races and sometimes that probably decides it for the team.
There's no reason to pick him. They have many better runners.
Yh in 2016 bekele was the fastest runner for Ethiopia in 2020 he was in the top 3 I believe, yet still not picked. I understand the selection process but that man's time really does make me think about if there's a divide between him and the Ethiopian committee
@@BugattianVeyronian many is a strong word to use on the national record holder of Ethiopia from 2k indoors to the marathon lol(ignoring half m and other odd distances events )
Bekele is the goat 🐐 of distance running 👊
I don't think Kipchoge will win in 2024. He's still incredibly quick but we've seen numerous people beat his times. Berlin was his fastest this year and we've just seen that broken at Valencia and, of course, the new WR.
What's that we've seen broken in Valencia?
Its not about speed at the Olympics, but brains, and Kipchoge is the master of tactics, never, ever right off a champion.
We don't know what we don't know. He mentioned he wasn't feeling his best in Boston. It was his first time on a hard course (not fast course like Valencia or London). Also take into account that sometimes pros use some races as training for other races so they don't go all out on some.
My guess: Kiptum not gonna win in Paris 2024 Olympics
You can't just run one race in a year and be in the team
I feel like Eliud and Kimptum will push each other super hard at the Olympics and i wouldn't be surprised if they break the two-hour mark. In my personal opinion Eliud is better then kimptum because of his track records and he has more experience so i think it's going to be a close race for Kimptum and Eliud at the Olympics. You guys tell me your thoughts.
Not even close. There's no way a sub 2 hour goes down.
You don’t really follow the sport!
People are getting carried away. I can't see anyone running under 2:03 in Paris and that's probably optimistic.
I’m thinking there’s a chance of 2:05 going down but the paris course if you’ve been living under a rock, is going to be very, very hot that day.
@@jameschaves5723 your right i don't really follow the sport i just started running cross country a couple months ago and found some cool marathon runners. I am sorry for my comment on this video but you don't need to get so mad about it. based off your profile im guessing your an experienced runner I'm not as much.people on this app should learn to take a chill and not attack everything they disagree with
Faster times =peds
Drugs
Here's what the Kenyan team is going to be doing - peds!
They should drop Kipchoge now or Kipchoge should voluntarily drop off from the roster and make way for the younger, stronger Chebet.
That’s stupid. He’s the reigning Olympic champ and is still in contention to defend it
@@ccbgaming6994"reigning" doesn't mean he's "currently" in top shape now. What's stupid is letting your level of fitness from years ago define your current olympic qualification. No one might beat him from years ago, but a guy or two younger than him might beat him now.
@@ezonlinegaminghaha😂 who does this?Will you if you were at Kipchoge's place? If yes, then I think you are very stupid.
What do you mean? He just ran 2:02:42 in Sept.
Never underestimate Kipchoge, he may beat Kiptum in the Olympics
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What??