Thank you for this! I recently came upon a cargo bike with a Sturmey Archer 5-speed hub. It's been a pain to find out simple information about adjustment. I knew all about the Shimano Nexus range. But having them both in the same video makes so much sense! So yeah - thanks again. And you have a new subscriber in me :)
Hi, thanks so much for watching and for the kind words! I’m glad the video was helpful for your Sturmey Archer 5-speed setup. Thanks for subscribing, and I’m thrilled to have you along on the channel! 🚲😊
@@cliffe02 They are excellent. Whatever you buy, expect that it's never been serviced before. RJ The Bike Guy has a couple of great videos which show how to rebuild an AW (other models are much the same in principle). Well worth watching, I was terrified of the black magic inside hub gears before I plucked up the courage to open one for the first time, and now I don't give pulling one apart a second thought. Back in the day Sturmey Archer made special little cone wrenches which are actually thin enough to fit their cones without jamming against the locknut or washer. They are essential for getting proper adjustment of the left cone so look out for one, they're pretty readily available on ebay for not much money (the right cone is set with a locking washer so a wrench isn't needed, and the FG and AG Dynohubs have a notched left cone control so the SA cone wrench isn't needed there either)
Hi Clifford, thanks for your great comment🙂. Yes, just like the carbon belt drives it seems like such an obvious answer. Yet they never took over the world. Do you have a hub gear on your bike yourself? If yes what do you have and what do you like about it?
It would have been very useful if you had pointed out, as part of your Sturmey Archer instructions, that the instructions you give might not work. If they don't work then it is very likely that the bike has the wrong indicator rod fitted for its axle length. The vast majority of SA geared bikes are Raleigh light roadsters which take the short 5 3/4 inch axle and the corresponding HSA125 indicator rod. Toggle chains break and get replaced, but they tend to get fitted with the one the shop had to hand, which is often the HSA126 indicator rod for the 6 1/4 inch axle (the shop having already used all of its HSA125s). If you use the manufacturer instructions you detail on a 5 3/4 inch axle hub with an HSA126 fitted, 2nd gear has no drive. It's an easy fix for a couple of pounds (the parts are still in production) but it's a very common fault which isn't often talked about. You also describe only earlier UK made SA hubs with the 4 prong clutch, the later hubs are redesigned to not have the neutral position and have additional driver pawls to accomodate this. Such hubs will pretend everything is find when they are out of adjustment and therefore it's good practice to actually check the adjustment, not wait for a fault. Then there are K, AM and SW 3 speed hubs, and the 4 speeds, which have left hand indication and are more complex to adjust, but we won't go there.
Hi Jack, thanks for your comment and sharing your vast knowledge about Sturmey Archer hubs with others. I am sure that some viewers will find it very useful and interesting. I understand that you may feel dissapointed that you didn't find all the information about Sturmey archer hub gear troubleshooting but this video was never intended to offer those. Ihope this makes sense:)
@@cyclemaintenanceacademy I completely get that no video can be comprehensive, I was just commenting that it would be useful to contextualise your advice with some information on its limits might be useful. A single sentence along the lines of "if you follow this guide and find you have no drive in one of your gears, you may have the wrong indicator rod or another fault with your hub" would help your audience to better understand their bikes.
@@JackMitchell404 Interesting comment, I am actually watching this video because my Shimano 3 speed gear hub's indicator is wrong after a "premium servicing" by the bike shop. The gear slips occasionally even after repeated attempts by the bike shop's mechanic to tune it. I have no idea how the gear hub works internally and will have to use trial and error to adjust it myself until it works.
@@cyclemaintenanceacademy thanks bro i am still waiting for my part to arrive - and i found the name of it - its a nexus 8 speed grip shift - so may need to watch this video again when it arrives 👍
Hi, my sturdy archer has 5 gears but it has a gear adjuster on both sides of the wheel and the shifter has 2 cables one to each side of the wheel. Could you tell me why it has a gear thing on each side. Is it a SW hub gears.
Hey, thanks for the comment. Yes, the 5 speed gear hub is a variation of the 4 speed SW model. I'm not an expert in these models but found some information on Sheldon Brown's website: www.sheldonbrown.com/sturmey-archer/s52.html. Let me know if that was helpful
Hi, thanks for your question. Not all hub gears incorporate a back pedal (coaster) brake. Manufacturers like Shimano sell their hubs designed specifically for roller brakes or coaster brakes. If you have any further questions or need more information, feel free to ask. Happy riding!🙂
Hi! Thanks for your comment, and apologies for the delayed reply. I see that @Crystalheard has already suggested a solution. I hope you’ve managed to get it sorted out, but feel free to update us if you need any more help!
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very useful, thank you
Hi Paul, you're welcome. Glad it was helpful!🙂
Thank you for this!
I recently came upon a cargo bike with a Sturmey Archer 5-speed hub. It's been a pain to find out simple information about adjustment.
I knew all about the Shimano Nexus range. But having them both in the same video makes so much sense!
So yeah - thanks again.
And you have a new subscriber in me :)
Hi, thanks so much for watching and for the kind words! I’m glad the video was helpful for your Sturmey Archer 5-speed setup. Thanks for subscribing, and I’m thrilled to have you along on the channel! 🚲😊
Thanks for your very informative video, I wish there were more internal hub geared bikes on the market, the simple maintenance speaks volumes.
Don't buy a new hub gear. Get a Sturmey Archer hub from 70 years ago, that way you'll actually be able to get spare parts.
@@JackMitchell404 thank you Jack I intend too. I fancy a classic 3 speed Sturmey Archer.
@@cliffe02 They are excellent. Whatever you buy, expect that it's never been serviced before. RJ The Bike Guy has a couple of great videos which show how to rebuild an AW (other models are much the same in principle). Well worth watching, I was terrified of the black magic inside hub gears before I plucked up the courage to open one for the first time, and now I don't give pulling one apart a second thought.
Back in the day Sturmey Archer made special little cone wrenches which are actually thin enough to fit their cones without jamming against the locknut or washer. They are essential for getting proper adjustment of the left cone so look out for one, they're pretty readily available on ebay for not much money (the right cone is set with a locking washer so a wrench isn't needed, and the FG and AG Dynohubs have a notched left cone control so the SA cone wrench isn't needed there either)
Thanks again for your excellent information definitely going to look for those cone spanner’s.
Hi Clifford, thanks for your great comment🙂. Yes, just like the carbon belt drives it seems like such an obvious answer. Yet they never took over the world. Do you have a hub gear on your bike yourself? If yes what do you have and what do you like about it?
Simple and well explained!
Thank you. We appreciate your feedback 😁
Thanks for this very useful and concise explanation.
You're very welcome! I'm glad you found it useful and concise. Thanks for watching!
Thanks!
No problem. Did you manage to adjust your gears? 😁
Thanks Alexei, your support means the world to us🙏😁
Appreciate the information
Thank s so much! I'm glad you found the information helpful. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask!
It would have been very useful if you had pointed out, as part of your Sturmey Archer instructions, that the instructions you give might not work. If they don't work then it is very likely that the bike has the wrong indicator rod fitted for its axle length.
The vast majority of SA geared bikes are Raleigh light roadsters which take the short 5 3/4 inch axle and the corresponding HSA125 indicator rod. Toggle chains break and get replaced, but they tend to get fitted with the one the shop had to hand, which is often the HSA126 indicator rod for the 6 1/4 inch axle (the shop having already used all of its HSA125s).
If you use the manufacturer instructions you detail on a 5 3/4 inch axle hub with an HSA126 fitted, 2nd gear has no drive. It's an easy fix for a couple of pounds (the parts are still in production) but it's a very common fault which isn't often talked about.
You also describe only earlier UK made SA hubs with the 4 prong clutch, the later hubs are redesigned to not have the neutral position and have additional driver pawls to accomodate this. Such hubs will pretend everything is find when they are out of adjustment and therefore it's good practice to actually check the adjustment, not wait for a fault.
Then there are K, AM and SW 3 speed hubs, and the 4 speeds, which have left hand indication and are more complex to adjust, but we won't go there.
Hi Jack, thanks for your comment and sharing your vast knowledge about Sturmey Archer hubs with others. I am sure that some viewers will find it very useful and interesting. I understand that you may feel dissapointed that you didn't find all the information about Sturmey archer hub gear troubleshooting but this video was never intended to offer those. Ihope this makes sense:)
@@cyclemaintenanceacademy I completely get that no video can be comprehensive, I was just commenting that it would be useful to contextualise your advice with some information on its limits might be useful. A single sentence along the lines of "if you follow this guide and find you have no drive in one of your gears, you may have the wrong indicator rod or another fault with your hub" would help your audience to better understand their bikes.
@@JackMitchell404 Interesting comment, I am actually watching this video because my Shimano 3 speed gear hub's indicator is wrong after a "premium servicing" by the bike shop. The gear slips occasionally even after repeated attempts by the bike shop's mechanic to tune it. I have no idea how the gear hub works internally and will have to use trial and error to adjust it myself until it works.
🙏 seems to work but i think i need to replace the plastic control damaged ( the same location & motion as motor bike throttle )
Hi and thanks for your comment. I'm pleased that the video was helpful and good luck with the further work.
@@cyclemaintenanceacademy thanks bro i am still waiting for my part to arrive - and i found the name of it - its a nexus 8 speed grip shift - so may need to watch this video again when it arrives 👍
Hi, my sturdy archer has 5 gears but it has a gear adjuster on both sides of the wheel and the shifter has 2 cables one to each side of the wheel. Could you tell me why it has a gear thing on each side. Is it a SW hub gears.
Hey, thanks for the comment. Yes, the 5 speed gear hub is a variation of the 4 speed SW model. I'm not an expert in these models but found some information on Sheldon Brown's website: www.sheldonbrown.com/sturmey-archer/s52.html. Let me know if that was helpful
do hub gear enable leg braking by default or it depends on a manufacturer?
Hi, thanks for your question. Not all hub gears incorporate a back pedal (coaster) brake. Manufacturers like Shimano sell their hubs designed specifically for roller brakes or coaster brakes. If you have any further questions or need more information, feel free to ask. Happy riding!🙂
I have a 5-speed Shimano gear hub and the adjuster barrel is not adjusting after turning it up or down.😢
It’s probably your cable is too loose? Switch the shifter to the hardest position, if you can see a big slack on the cable, then this is the case.
@@Crystalheard Thank you so much.
Hi! Thanks for your comment, and apologies for the delayed reply. I see that @Crystalheard has already suggested a solution. I hope you’ve managed to get it sorted out, but feel free to update us if you need any more help!
@@cyclemaintenanceacademy thank you. It was sorted out