Rupaka Thalam Samam to 2 thalli edupu | Korvais

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  • This will be very useful for the budding artist, those who have started singing concerts and also for Mridangam players. This is a new concept in rupaka thalam samam to edam.
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  • @sathreya
    @sathreya 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is such a beautiful composition that meets arithmetic constraints aesthetically. The basic issue is because of the thalam, the korvai needs to be of the form 12*n+2 (where n is number of avarthanams) and thus indivisible by 3. 12n+2 can be written as 12*(n-1)+14 and 14 can be written as 3+6+5 = 3+6+1+2+2. Thus if the purvangam is of the form 3*(3*(2n+1)) and the uttarangam is 6*(3*(2n+1)) and the karvais are spaced out as 0 in the first iteration 1 in the second and 2 in the third we have
    P1=3*(2*k1+1) U1 = 3*(2*k2+1) (0)
    P2 = 3*(2*k1+1) U2 = 3*(2*k2+1) (1) 3*(2*k2+1)
    P3 = 3*(2*k1+1) U3 = 3*(2*k2+1) (2) 3*(2*k2+1) (2) 3*(2*k2+1)
    When we add all the matras we have 18*k1 +9 + 36*k2 +18 + 5 = 12*1.5*k1 + 12*3*k2 + 12*1.5+14 = 12*1.5*(k1+1) + 12*3*k2 + 14. Thus when k1 is odd and for all values of k2 we have a korvai that will be 2 thalli from samam. In the video k1 is chosen to be 3 thus yielding a purvangam of 3 7s and k2 is varied from 2 to 3 to 4 in the three iterations, yielding 3 5s, 3 7s and 3 9s respectively.
    And speaking of finishing with a flourish, the korvai ends with a neat thisra nadai (gathi bedham) where 3 9s are telescoped in the space of 2 9s in the last iteration.
    Thanks much Balaji sir and to your student for sharing this lovely structure in context. Will look out for this in a concert.

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thankyou very much sir. It's wonderful explanation. Useful for the students .👍

    • @vthyaga
      @vthyaga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bale! Fantastic explanation. I found it hard to follow at first because of straight jump to the maths, but I get it now and it's really useful. For those trying to follow along, why starting with (2n+1) format? - 2n+1 just means an odd number. And using it as the base which gives us 5s, 7s and 9s as mentioned at the end.

    • @sumskind
      @sumskind ปีที่แล้ว

      Just great...literally breaking down to elements..aka...மாத்திரை...well done

  • @nadopasana5542
    @nadopasana5542 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent explanation useful to both mridangist,nd vocalists also.

  • @VijayantiPappu
    @VijayantiPappu ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Such a wonderful selection of korvais sir.I loved the experimentation of 7s in the purvaNgam with 5s 7s and 9s.I will attempt this korvai in my next concerts.This is such a useful video that is easy to understand when it comes to korvai constructions.thank you and namaskarams ❤🙏

    • @VijayantiPappu
      @VijayantiPappu ปีที่แล้ว

      Moreover I love the kanakus❤

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thankyou very much.

  • @VividVids-qi7tv
    @VividVids-qi7tv หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thqnk you balaji sir.

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Welcome 🌹

  • @syamalasrinivasan2393
    @syamalasrinivasan2393 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wonderful.

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thankyou 🌹

  • @sumskind
    @sumskind ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your way of imbibing is fantastic and no wonder your disciple is so well versed and has a great range...god bless you

  • @Balakrishnan-sq1vo
    @Balakrishnan-sq1vo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent setup, what a beautifu butl simple calculations, Super RamRamRam

  • @balakrishnapillai6295
    @balakrishnapillai6295 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A well experienced teacher of all meaning with simple teaching method

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thankyou 🌹

    • @jayatsmusic3084
      @jayatsmusic3084 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Language malayalam

  • @sangeethanarayananmusic
    @sangeethanarayananmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very informative Korvai and clear explanation Sir! Nice singing by Sai Harinni too!

  • @prakashkoorpaad6748
    @prakashkoorpaad6748 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It.is to me.a personal teaching I am greatful to you gurugale Namaskaragalu

  • @kalaimamanimeerasivaramakr4074
    @kalaimamanimeerasivaramakr4074 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative...I have written down the korvais...thank you Balaji. Your student also sang very well

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thankyou very much meera.

  • @vamsikgp
    @vamsikgp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    wonderful .. invaluable lessons!! Thanks for explaining in English also for all of us (saw a non-sense linguist comment, so had to balance it)

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thankyou 🌹

  • @vedavidhyasamithi4572
    @vedavidhyasamithi4572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hearty Wishes to Shri Melakaveri Balaji for descending to our level and sgaring his great experience. The knowledge of Layam will improve us to sing confidently. Great Seva. Pl continue. We will be able to appreciate Thani Avarthanas better.. sai premi

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thankyou. Sure I will .

    • @vedavidhyasamithi4572
      @vedavidhyasamithi4572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@melakaveri
      For the present,keep your lectures for beginners to appreciate Layam better.
      The sruthi and sahithyam aspects ,many understand..Layham is very important
      For classical music.A new gate has been opened ! Gratitude.
      Balakrishna

  • @ravikrishnanghatam8608
    @ravikrishnanghatam8608 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent Balaji.

  • @s.rengamannarkesavan360
    @s.rengamannarkesavan360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very great sir. Super. Namaskaram🙏

  • @bpharibabu
    @bpharibabu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    explained and rendered well sir

  • @MahaperiyavaSchoolofMridangam
    @MahaperiyavaSchoolofMridangam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Superb excellent Anna periyava charanam 🙏🙏🙏

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thankyou. Maha periyavaa saranam 🙏🏼

  • @swarataranginiinternationa7572
    @swarataranginiinternationa7572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am unable to follow the language as I am a Telugu speaking person. Still, I am able to follow the concept clearly. And obviously, it is very useful to me. thank you very much both guruji and the disciple.

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thankyou. I will speak fully in English from next time.

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I spoke mostly in English.

    • @swarataranginiinternationa7572
      @swarataranginiinternationa7572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes sir. You spoke in English mostly, and it is usefull. Dhanyavaadamulu

  • @sunithaiyer9154
    @sunithaiyer9154 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really sooperb..may god bless you all🙏👏

  • @harishsubramanian6490
    @harishsubramanian6490 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well rendered sir

  • @bharathk9594
    @bharathk9594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Superb Sir

  • @UmaRamuAyyar
    @UmaRamuAyyar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful Sir!

  • @venram2010
    @venram2010 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent!

  • @Basuvi1
    @Basuvi1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent 🌹

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thankyou Balaji.

  • @karunakaranthashanan7200
    @karunakaranthashanan7200 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super nice sir

  • @annapooranik1967
    @annapooranik1967 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful excellent

  • @N.K.K.K.N
    @N.K.K.K.N ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super sir

  • @janakiravisveena4590
    @janakiravisveena4590 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice explanation

  • @jijimezhuveli7614
    @jijimezhuveli7614 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    🙏🙏🙏

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🌹

  • @muse4297
    @muse4297 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wonderful

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thankyou 🌹

  • @karthikv1906
    @karthikv1906 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Very useful for layman rasikas like me

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thankyou 🌹

  • @raghavanparthasarathyparth1785
    @raghavanparthasarathyparth1785 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is so useful for all musicians

  • @Tamijarassane
    @Tamijarassane ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very very nice

  • @TiruchengodeGvParthiban
    @TiruchengodeGvParthiban 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice 👍🏻

  • @NerkunamMusicFamily
    @NerkunamMusicFamily 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super anna

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thankyou shankar

  • @sugumarsairam6007
    @sugumarsairam6007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent sairam

  • @chandramohan502
    @chandramohan502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    மிகவும் நன்றி ஐயா

  • @Munuswamymusic
    @Munuswamymusic 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ❤ you sir

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thankyou 🌹

  • @venky1973
    @venky1973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice

  • @MYTHILIKRISHNAN62
    @MYTHILIKRISHNAN62 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Superb.
    Sir last round of kharaharapriya what did u do?

  • @mukundbharadwajL
    @mukundbharadwajL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    sir can you post similar ideas for adi talam?
    the videos are very useful.thankyou

  • @meenashankar1
    @meenashankar1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11:47 dear sir,although i didn't know carnatic music but i liked it very much pl.let me know is it like hindustani taal Rupak where we hv.7 beats ttin thina dina dhina,also i wld love to learn carnatic mudic theory n practical cld u please guide how can i learn ,wld u kindly teach me online?

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I can teach online.

  • @MYTHILIKRISHNAN62
    @MYTHILIKRISHNAN62 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir what did u do in the fast one in kharaharapriya

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What we are singing is the chatusram madhya makalam only.

  • @purushotmennaidoo
    @purushotmennaidoo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It saddens the audience deeply when such musical maestros tend to resort using English, not realising that it is from the ancient Thamil that their knowledge springs from. In the international arena affirm the sanctity and mystery of the profound Thamil please. Other races are proud of their language unlike Thamilians particularly the learned Bramins.

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thankyou for your information 💐

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I am going to present my videos in English only. This is for the Musicians all over the world.
      Music has No Language Barriers.
      Don't interpret this towards Race, Language and Religion.
      This is I am doing as a service to the Music Rasikas and Young Budding Artistes without any caste, creed or Religion

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If possible share the knowledge you have regarding the Carnatic Music or any field .That will be Very Good for the Society around you. Don't waste your time like this.

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Particularly I spoke most of the time in Thamizh(it should be pronounced like this) in this video.

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not as you mentioned as Thamil