A lot of people calling this too easy. It's like you've never done the first 4 of a normal raid tier before. Or a normal raid tier in general. It's literally always easy and most of them are always one shot even by pugs.
@@VampireNoblesse uhhh, I haven't done hyd ex yet but everyone I know, myself included, is saying how easy zodi ex is. It legit only took my pug 5 pulls to clear it with ease. I had a much harder time with Titania in shadowbringers.
Hemitheos = Demigod. Hesperos = duskbringer. Phoinix is pronounced Phoenix, like you already pronounce the latin iteration. The mythical bird's origins are greek. Hippokampos = Sea horse. Aristotle was the first to write down the taxonomic traits etc. Poseidon's chariot was driven by the mythological monsters Hippokampoi, that's where the name is derived for the sea horse animal. Erichthonios = (Chthonic = that of the underworld, Eris = discord) One that hates/despises the underworld. Erichthonios was a mythical king of Athens, half man, half snake. He was born of Hephaestus. One version mentions Hephaestus tried to force himself upon Athena, that had come to him with a request of new crafted garments. He ejaculated on her thigh and she wiped it off in disgust. The semen dropped on earth, and Erichthonios was born from Gaia.
@@NeoDMC That's been the theory for a while now, since the Seats of convocation come from FFXII, and Lahabrea was the one that created the spirit Ifritas (that Azem subdued in that volcano). Hephaestus fits lahabrea the most.
Ericthononios is specifically spawned from Hephaestus trying to rape Athena and was raised as her son, which is reflected in his lore. His mother was Athena, who he loves and his father is Lahabrea, a creator, who he hates.
Same, but I like it when they put a bit of a twist on them. Phoenix was just played a bit TOO straight for my taste. But hey, who knows, maybe savage is more interesting :)
If I'm right based on the name of the gear you get this is themed after a bit of dante's inferno where next will be Hell and the final tier paradiso (Heaven) and seeing that all of the amorot stuff is based on Greek I feel that's a safe guess. Such an awesome theme
Yea, thats pretty right. Aphodelus basically is the afterlive for "common souls". Next up they arrive in the Hell pracitcally and then heaven at the end.
as i fight the second boss in Pandaemonium, i listen to the music and though: " this sound oddly like castlevania" and by the forth boss we fight dracula XD
Funny that he calls it a "version of hell" Asphodelos is named after the are of the Greek underworld that boring people who never do anything evil or heroic go to
I loved how they incorporated a lot of the Greek mythologies in the names and tied it to story and the boss attacks and designs. I am thinking that Lahabrea's Greek name is Hephaestus, the smith god or the god who creates. Lahabrea is a creator. It also ties with the plot we know so far.
@@ElsaChan597 Actually, Erich's mom was stated to be Athena I'm pretty sure. Which is actually appropriate, as the Greek legend Erich was born from Hephaestus having his way with Athena. Or at least tried to.
@@midnightbloomofeorzea7182 Well, only one version posits Hephaestus orgasmed on Athena's thigh while she was trying to flee his attempted forced copulation, and she wiped it in disgust and the sperm that fell into the Earth gave birth to the mythical king of athens Ericthonios. There are several version that posit Hephaestus birthed him with mortal women.
normal is somewhat braindead because its for casual players, most of them just want some raids and storyline… for raiders, its ex, savage and ultimate… like, why would they make a normal raid hard, one that would take u hours to beat just for a story
Exactly. I think its smart. You get all the casual or story focused players through with some degree of challenge but not too much, so they can get the hit of story, while also making sure there is a version of every fight for the hardcores.
People saying it’s easy might finally be ready for savage content that’s usually the first sign when normal becomes very easy and you understand the mechs right away cuz normal raids are for casuals so if it’s easy move on to savage but calling easy content easy is for plebs
@@maybeitsyou1317 They may not be in BiS if they haven't cleared the new Ex trials, which I'm sure some haven't, still tho, they'd be 570 ilvl if they'd made any sort of effort to even clear expert dungeons/ roulette post 90, and 570 ilvl is definitely not undergeared for this anyway.
Extremes are literally a higher difficulty than normal raid, by a decent amount. Normal trials sometimes are harder than normal raid. Savage is where it's actually hard. The jump between the two is huge. Much bigger than the jump from normal trial to extreme trial.
I'm not sure if they already saw it, but in the fourth fight if you watch the tiles, you'll notice that the pillar will pulse before the mechanic goes off, and if you're not in position a second after that happens the snapshot gets ya.
Nah, Asphodel meadows are the place normal people that led honest lives go to when they die. A distinctive flower grows in those meadows, Asphodel. The flower's name is derived from the place.
I was glad to see some old mechanics make a comeback, like the labyrinth water, phoenix fires. And as a 14 boomer everything is easy after 8 years of experience so I'm just on team was it fun?
Oi in Greek got transliterated to Oe in Latin and then to a long E in English, so for an example being "oik-"/"home" root became "oec-" in Latin/Old French and then "eco-" in English: "economy", "ecology". This expansion has been a blast as I took Homeric Greek and Latin in high school
People who enjoyed the MSQ and got invested will enjoy this a lot more than cutscene skippers calling it now. Interesting mechanics though can't wait for savage
@@vaan_ That's fair, I can see why some people wouldn't be into the whole 11th hour new big bad sort of thing and the story veering from what some people might have expected, it took me a little while to come around but I rly liked it after some reflecting
how much did it take to clear Savage for Vex? I assume after you clear Savage ( hardest mode that gives gear?) there would be nothing else to do at endgame
P3 in DF is gonna be annoying. I bet a bunch of healers arent going to notice the OT starting to take autos after add phase. They hit for like 10k before mitigation.
Just a curiosity: The tier gear is called Limbo possibly because in the Japanese version of the game this tier is called 辺獄編 (Limbo). Asphodelos seems to be an adaptation, not a direct translation of the JP name of the tier.
The fourth fight really gave me major O3S Halicarnassus vibes. So excited for Savage! Halicarnassus is still one of the best savage fights in this game in my opinion. Still holds up really well today.
The 4th boss felt like trial-and-error to figure out. You don't know what anything does until after it goes off, and you either got lucky and dodged the attack or you got unlucky and got hit. Zero tells of what any of those animations mean. You figure it out eventually but it is just "oh, it's a proximity marker" (after everybody is dead)
It's based on previous bosses with the element for the most part. Leviathan (water) always has those KB pillars of water in it's fights that work the same way. Ramuh has the lightning spikes in E5 that work the same way. So there is *some* early warning. But also, that's just kinda how fight design in this game works. Some bosses deliberately do the opposite of what old mechs trained you to do, like the proxy marker in O4 that has a KB resolve first, and kill everyone who tried to resolve the proxy marker.
I felt like Eden was easy as hell compared to this raid I actually struggled a bit but I actually just started playing this game this year probably that’s why but these guys are really good it took me a minute to complete the first three but the last one was easy.
I want to watch this so bad. However, cuz I have a half a brain (at least) and don't want spoilers, this will go on my playlist so I can watch it later. Also can't wait for the react stream tomorrow about brain dead's reeeeeeeing about spoilers.
imagine watching the cutscenes, to see if there is a fifth boss. SMH This is why Xeem's skips story. SE spit on his plight. But congrats :madge: :clap:
@@Mijeme123g I mean this tier is called Asphodelos and in greek mythology it's the place where you go after death for being generic. It'll probably look more hellish in later tiers
@@Mijeme123g A lot of the Ascians are named after greek gods, Hades, Hermes, etc. The name pandemonium is also a word for hell, made up of part-greek part-latin language. The armour reflects this as it looks very reminiscent of clothes worn by ancient greeks. I agree, it's not the best looking armour, but it is reflecting what it is supposed to reflect.
@@WyldChoerry yeah this is probably like as the name of the gear says Limbo, next tier we going to Hell gear and final something like paradise gear I'd say
I’m fine with these being easy I just think they don’t hold a candle to the first 4 shadowbringers raids they released these ones feel really…well rubbish
@@gaultrenn dont think you really understood my comment lol i couldnt care less if it was easy or not im just saying boss wise and the looks of the raids dont hold any candle to what shadowbringers brought...
Yeah man Gate was so sick, arena, boss design, ost, mechanics, all very cool (except leviathan f*ck leviathan that sh*t made me half asleep even in savage lol) this tier was nothing compared to that. Will see if Savage changes my mind.
A lot of people calling this too easy. It's like you've never done the first 4 of a normal raid tier before. Or a normal raid tier in general. It's literally always easy and most of them are always one shot even by pugs.
@@VampireNoblesse I really hope they wont make it easier. 1st and 2nd extreme were just right in difficulty, if not a bit too easy even.
@@VampireNoblesse uhhh, I haven't done hyd ex yet but everyone I know, myself included, is saying how easy zodi ex is.
It legit only took my pug 5 pulls to clear it with ease. I had a much harder time with Titania in shadowbringers.
@@lj_aderyn i still hear "lalalalala," in my nightmares lolz
@@lj_aderyn Zod was easy. Hyd was little more difficult! Which makes it more fun!
@@EpickBoi good to hear, I look forward to trying it soon
Hemitheos = Demigod. Hesperos = duskbringer.
Phoinix is pronounced Phoenix, like you already pronounce the latin iteration. The mythical bird's origins are greek.
Hippokampos = Sea horse. Aristotle was the first to write down the taxonomic traits etc. Poseidon's chariot was driven by the mythological monsters Hippokampoi, that's where the name is derived for the sea horse animal.
Erichthonios = (Chthonic = that of the underworld, Eris = discord) One that hates/despises the underworld. Erichthonios was a mythical king of Athens, half man, half snake. He was born of Hephaestus. One version mentions Hephaestus tried to force himself upon Athena, that had come to him with a request of new crafted garments. He ejaculated on her thigh and she wiped it off in disgust. The semen dropped on earth, and Erichthonios was born from Gaia.
If that's the case then putting down money that Lahabrea's real name is Hephaestus.
@@NeoDMC Considering Hephaestus is the god of artisans and craftsmen and Lahabrea's really good at creation magiks I think you're on the money lol
@@NeoDMC That's been the theory for a while now, since the Seats of convocation come from FFXII, and Lahabrea was the one that created the spirit Ifritas (that Azem subdued in that volcano). Hephaestus fits lahabrea the most.
Ericthononios is specifically spawned from Hephaestus trying to rape Athena and was raised as her son, which is reflected in his lore. His mother was Athena, who he loves and his father is Lahabrea, a creator, who he hates.
@@NeoDMC It’s probably Craig.
The savage version of that 4th boss is gonna be insane dude!
he listens to the music on like 3% and says it's shit. FF does a great job in picking songs that fit the boss just like the last song and its great
yeah he has terrible takes on that stuff
I have no problem with them reusing mechanics we haven't seen in 4 or 6 years. A11S was some good fun.
Same, but I like it when they put a bit of a twist on them. Phoenix was just played a bit TOO straight for my taste. But hey, who knows, maybe savage is more interesting :)
If I'm right based on the name of the gear you get this is themed after a bit of dante's inferno where next will be Hell and the final tier paradiso (Heaven) and seeing that all of the amorot stuff is based on Greek I feel that's a safe guess. Such an awesome theme
Oooh good eye. I'm willing to help in that as well
When I saw the name of the floors being the first circle up to four, the first thing I thought of was Dante Inferno lol.
dante is italian not greek but yeah its probably a mixture of both ideas
Yea, thats pretty right. Aphodelus basically is the afterlive for "common souls". Next up they arrive in the Hell pracitcally and then heaven at the end.
Since next tier is abyssus. I bet last one is cocytus.
as i fight the second boss in Pandaemonium, i listen to the music and though: " this sound oddly like castlevania" and by the forth boss we fight dracula XD
Had someone put in chat "Have at you!" When he removed his glasses
what is a man?
Funny that he calls it a "version of hell"
Asphodelos is named after the are of the Greek underworld that boring people who never do anything evil or heroic go to
35:53 - 36:05 This bit was so funny
I loved how they incorporated a lot of the Greek mythologies in the names and tied it to story and the boss attacks and designs. I am thinking that Lahabrea's Greek name is Hephaestus, the smith god or the god who creates. Lahabrea is a creator. It also ties with the plot we know so far.
can't believe Erich's mom? is Aphrodite, cant wait to see her in cutscenes awooga. 99% sure my knowledge of the greek patheon is wrong though
@@ElsaChan597 Actually, Erich's mom was stated to be Athena I'm pretty sure.
Which is actually appropriate, as the Greek legend Erich was born from Hephaestus having his way with Athena. Or at least tried to.
@@ElsaChan597 it said in the game Erichthonios's mother was named Athena and she is already dead
@@midnightbloomofeorzea7182 Well, only one version posits Hephaestus orgasmed on Athena's thigh while she was trying to flee his attempted forced copulation, and she wiped it in disgust and the sperm that fell into the Earth gave birth to the mythical king of athens Ericthonios. There are several version that posit Hephaestus birthed him with mortal women.
@@Polydopamine 👀
“Wtf is going on is that the lady of light” that’s the moment that he knew he f’d up
normal is somewhat braindead because its for casual players, most of them just want some raids and storyline… for raiders, its ex, savage and ultimate…
like, why would they make a normal raid hard, one that would take u hours to beat just for a story
Exactly. I think its smart. You get all the casual or story focused players through with some degree of challenge but not too much, so they can get the hit of story, while also making sure there is a version of every fight for the hardcores.
Yea, the phoynix is actually pretty spicy right? I was really happy with how that one was tuned for a normal. I think that one was my fav.
People saying it’s easy might finally be ready for savage content that’s usually the first sign when normal becomes very easy and you understand the mechs right away cuz normal raids are for casuals so if it’s easy move on to savage but calling easy content easy is for plebs
guess no savage for me, especially the 4th fight.
I heard one of em saying they where "Undergeared" for this. What? Aren't they all in BIS? They are probably actually overgeared if anything.
@@maybeitsyou1317 if they’ve only farmed gear for one role and came in playing another, then it’s possible.
@@maybeitsyou1317 They may not be in BiS if they haven't cleared the new Ex trials, which I'm sure some haven't, still tho, they'd be 570 ilvl if they'd made any sort of effort to even clear expert dungeons/ roulette post 90, and 570 ilvl is definitely not undergeared for this anyway.
This. Like people out here trying to flex on TH-cam by saying Normal raids are easy? It's because they're supposed to be easy...
Extremes are literally a higher difficulty than normal raid, by a decent amount. Normal trials sometimes are harder than normal raid. Savage is where it's actually hard. The jump between the two is huge. Much bigger than the jump from normal trial to extreme trial.
Thought this was super awesome! Loved the experience! Can't wait to see what Savage brings us.
I'm not sure if they already saw it, but in the fourth fight if you watch the tiles, you'll notice that the pillar will pulse before the mechanic goes off, and if you're not in position a second after that happens the snapshot gets ya.
I know everyone has different music taste but subjectively the Hesperos fight theme is awesome wtf Xenos
Asphodelos is literally derived from Asphodel which is a flower found in Greek mythology in the underworld.
Nah, Asphodel meadows are the place normal people that led honest lives go to when they die. A distinctive flower grows in those meadows, Asphodel. The flower's name is derived from the place.
@@Polydopamine literally nothing you said contradicts my statement. They are flowers found in the greek underworld.
@@Polydopamine also, based on naming conventioned I would guess that the final raid section is probably going to be called Tartaros.
I was glad to see some old mechanics make a comeback, like the labyrinth water, phoenix fires. And as a 14 boomer everything is easy after 8 years of experience so I'm just on team was it fun?
Oi in Greek got transliterated to Oe in Latin and then to a long E in English, so for an example being "oik-"/"home" root became "oec-" in Latin/Old French and then "eco-" in English: "economy", "ecology". This expansion has been a blast as I took Homeric Greek and Latin in high school
32:07 My guy out here trying to big brain normal mode proximity AoE LOL
This shit was HILARIOUS dude. Great job!!
“This looks like hell.” In John Milton’s Paradise Lost, it is.
I'm just calling it the Phonics, because gramar. edit: just realized it might also be a Sage with those floating things around it.
4th boss is gonna be farming duty finder weekly
People who enjoyed the MSQ and got invested will enjoy this a lot more than cutscene skippers calling it now. Interesting mechanics though can't wait for savage
@@vaan_ That's fair, I can see why some people wouldn't be into the whole 11th hour new big bad sort of thing and the story veering from what some people might have expected, it took me a little while to come around but I rly liked it after some reflecting
I wonder if they are making the Warden a boss.
Pandemonium Warden was such a cool boss.
*watches guide when everyone else goes in blind*
"dude im so good, if you have a vuln stack you're bad"
WeirdChamp
Y'all notice how inner release doesn't grant crit heals anymore?
At least it still does for bloodwhetting. But not equlibrium.
“This looks like a version of hell”
That’s what Pandemonium means it’s the name of the capital city of hell. No cap
aww man I felt bad for your friends when they said they liked the music and then you and that other guy were like "music sucks" :/
@@Axemninja idk about that take chief but yeah this track and the ost as a whole is stellar and goated imo
Now im curious to know which songs with vocals you like from 14. I'm a fan of most of them but there's a couple I think that are a cut above the rest.
how much did it take to clear Savage for Vex? I assume after you clear Savage ( hardest mode that gives gear?) there would be nothing else to do at endgame
P3 in DF is gonna be annoying. I bet a bunch of healers arent going to notice the OT starting to take autos after add phase. They hit for like 10k before mitigation.
Just a curiosity: The tier gear is called Limbo possibly because in the Japanese version of the game this tier is called 辺獄編 (Limbo).
Asphodelos seems to be an adaptation, not a direct translation of the JP name of the tier.
The fourth fight really gave me major O3S Halicarnassus vibes. So excited for Savage! Halicarnassus is still one of the best savage fights in this game in my opinion. Still holds up really well today.
When I first saw him I thought I stopped playing FFXIV and went straight into castlevania
FF1 had a vampire as one of the earliest bosses in the game, second iirc, after Garland
I liked the bosses, especially Hesperos man
Hippokampus or Phoinix savage mount *fingers crossed*
Ah yes, Eric the Onions, Warrior of the Condemned.
I've taken a break from FFXIV and don't mind spoilers, is this supposed to be like Pandemonium from FFII?
I loved all four fights, looking forward to savage.
P3S is gonna be nuts.
The 4th boss felt like trial-and-error to figure out. You don't know what anything does until after it goes off, and you either got lucky and dodged the attack or you got unlucky and got hit. Zero tells of what any of those animations mean. You figure it out eventually but it is just "oh, it's a proximity marker" (after everybody is dead)
Well, it's a raid. Not really meant to be completed in one shot. The mechanics are pretty clear when you've seen them once.
It's based on previous bosses with the element for the most part. Leviathan (water) always has those KB pillars of water in it's fights that work the same way. Ramuh has the lightning spikes in E5 that work the same way. So there is *some* early warning. But also, that's just kinda how fight design in this game works. Some bosses deliberately do the opposite of what old mechs trained you to do, like the proxy marker in O4 that has a KB resolve first, and kill everyone who tried to resolve the proxy marker.
This makes me want to join a raiding FC. Any raiding FC in Aether-Gilgamesh?
People dying the same ways I died going into P4 blind makes me feel less stupid about dying like that now LMAO
First boss: The Jailer.
Last Boss: Denathrius
Actually first one gives me soulrender dormazain vibes because of the chains
I'm a huge Xenno SIMP that was really funny to watch!!!
why do u need 2 tanks in this fight?
This is hype! I actually did Phoenix with Xemo a long ass time ago. I was actually in the double Bennu video he had xD
Is it normal that I was already pressing ESC after every boss died to skip the cinematic... in a video?
Xeno's chat is so adorable with all those pepes XD
Oh man the doggie in second floor gave me E10s PTSD
so no one is going to address the scuffed sire xD?
When the 2nd boss's head came off, you missed a perfect chance to say. "YO. WHAT THE DOG DOIN?"
Dam QUICKEST cutscene skipper and uploader in ff14 What a GOAT
SE about to get sued ripping Alucard from SOTN for the 4th boss.
What illvl gear do you obtain from this?
i believe its 580il
@@ranabas1130 Ah, so are my zordiak ex accesories basically worthless now?
@@intervalgaming6196 you still need them for this fight atleast. U need 565 ilvl to enter
@@andreicoronel2829 I guess. but ilvl565 can be easily achieved with tome gear. At least my hyld ex weapon isnt outclassed yet
You can only get 1 token from each boss every week though.
What's the mod or how do you get your beast gauge to look like that?
Select it in the HUD and change it to simple mode
Just simple mode homie.
T3 almost had me see a full 90 min run despite being normal. Thank goodness someone voted to abandon halfway through.
Wtf how lol its not hard it's literally a little bit harder than normal suzaku the mechanics are literally the same
@@treebush Trust, the fight wasn't hard for me and my duo after wiping the second time. It was for 3 members however for the hour run...
P4 was friking fun
Strummer used to quick pulls peepopog
I felt like Eden was easy as hell compared to this raid I actually struggled a bit but I actually just started playing this game this year probably that’s why but these guys are really good it took me a minute to complete the first three but the last one was easy.
Can we all just agree to call P1S piss?
I want to watch this so bad. However, cuz I have a half a brain (at least) and don't want spoilers, this will go on my playlist so I can watch it later.
Also can't wait for the react stream tomorrow about brain dead's reeeeeeeing about spoilers.
ok dude
Lmao Xeno talking shit about ffxiv music when he listens to shitty metalcore all day.
The irony.
All these people complain about difficulty, is this the first expansion for you to play on update or something? It's always super easy in normal mode.
imagine watching the cutscenes, to see if there is a fifth boss.
SMH
This is why Xeem's skips story. SE spit on his plight.
But congrats :madge: :clap:
19:01 F tier take
Lol mr happy is a meme
PINAX
The gear is pretty ass ngl
Same for the music
@@Mijeme123g I mean this tier is called Asphodelos and in greek mythology it's the place where you go after death for being generic.
It'll probably look more hellish in later tiers
@@Mijeme123g A lot of the Ascians are named after greek gods, Hades, Hermes, etc. The name pandemonium is also a word for hell, made up of part-greek part-latin language.
The armour reflects this as it looks very reminiscent of clothes worn by ancient greeks.
I agree, it's not the best looking armour, but it is reflecting what it is supposed to reflect.
@@WyldChoerry yeah this is probably like as the name of the gear says Limbo, next tier we going to Hell gear and final something like paradise gear I'd say
I ended up killing all of them on the first go, wasn't really a challenge, can't wait for savage tho, especially on that last boss
That last fight was a bit of a doozy ngl
pee nax
too easy this raid
HandsUp
Another square 1 room arena raid. Much fun very wow
I’m fine with these being easy I just think they don’t hold a candle to the first 4 shadowbringers raids they released these ones feel really…well rubbish
literally every normal raid in 14 is easy what are you on about
@@gaultrenn dont think you really understood my comment lol i couldnt care less if it was easy or not im just saying boss wise and the looks of the raids dont hold any candle to what shadowbringers brought...
@@thefacts4440 its normal...
Disappointed ngl
Its first 4, was cool designs but mechanics lacked a bit.
Story is ok
Well compared to Eden this is nothing especially the music sadge
Why I quit Final Fantasy to play wow
@@andreluizxd2873 brain damage, probably
Yeah man Gate was so sick, arena, boss design, ost, mechanics, all very cool (except leviathan f*ck leviathan that sh*t made me half asleep even in savage lol) this tier was nothing compared to that. Will see if Savage changes my mind.