I think it's actually better that: A: They don't care about the market right now B: They didn't push the operation for the release. I'm very sure we'll get operation or something similar to that before Christmas. It's better to prioritize to fix the gameplay issues and then push new content.
@@RochaPartneristDeadFireHD It's crazy that AAA devs nowadays get away with releasing open alphas as a full release and everyone just accepts it and even throw them a $70 pricetag right down their throat
I enjoy the critical optimism. Counter-Strike survives because Counter-Strike players are so stubborn about their game. We need to complain loudly until Valve fixes our game. We just need to give them some time. One thing I think you forgot to directly mention is that Valorant official servers provide 128 tick and CS is very behind in that aspect of the game. We need to directly compete with Valorants' playerbase to survive and grow. We want our game to get as big as it can get.
While I would prefer if cs2 was 128 tick it also seems like most of the current glaring issues are separate from tickrate. I hope it comes in the future but right now it's only a small piece of the pie.
Compared to other sequels we seen recently like Dying light 2, Payday 3, overwatch 2, Ark 2 or survival ascended what the difference now is, Cs2 was better than my expectations.
Beta-1.3 was the best time of CS I swear, we made our own skins and uploaded them into the files with ease. Wanted a butterfly done with a simple download and drag a file into cs files. 😅😂😅😂
I disagree somewhat with your assessment about cases. I hold a ton of cases, but if an operation drops the prices for cases and basically any item in the game would drop sharply. The more stuff there is in the game the thinner the money in the economy will get stretched thinner so it will take a while for the prices to go up further. First the amount of new stuff generated in a given timeframe has to die off, which usually happens in the ending stages of the operation and then we might see rises.
I think we were just looking at two different scales. When an operation drops it pulls money away from previous items. Because we don't know if an operation comes this year I ignored potentially timing the dip and looking at the long term if an operation did come. Big boost to players that lasts months, typically significant game updates, if we get a good operation a big influx of content around the game + new fans (its why I want a campaign so bad). You are correct but I'd say coming out of the operation, prices would be higher than if it never happened
This is partially true and well represented by the effect of the Anubis collection package, which is still having a large impact on player wealth. Luckily, when something new will release it will draw players away from the Anubis collection, and they likely won't return to it. Of course it depends on what they choose to release but something new could actual help get players to reprioritize their purchases.
Burnout is real on cs2. Never realized how much time I spent enjoying myself outside of comp. you can only grind so many matches back to back. Surfing, community dm, 1v1, and bhop were my safe havens.
The difference is that 1.6 and Source were completely different games whereas CS2 is just an enhancement (soon to be) of CS:GO. Bugs will be fixed continuously and then the only changes compared to CS:GO will be be smokes, molotovs and a revamped buy menu.
As a not so savvy CS Market watcher would it be in my best interest to try and sell the skins I own right now? I haven’t been watching the market but if it continues to drop I don’t wish to lose money.
THIS IS NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE buuuut, I am holding right now, and am considering buying more skins. The reason being is this: the prices have dropped. Typically in a market, you want to buy the dip because you expect the prices to go back up again once whatever problem that caused it is fixed. The prices were inflated before, so they have returned to a baseline level, but they are likely to start increasing again once the game is fixed and feeling good with additional players being brought in. So basically, the prices are expected to start increasing again, if you panic sell you will lose on that speculated future gain. A more interesting move would be to trade skins for cases. Skins aren't the best investment, because there is a supply of them. Conversely, cases that aren't actively dropping will always decrease in number, creating scarcity which increases the price. Even cases in the rare drop pool are being opened faster than they are being acquired. So these cases that aren't in the main actively dropping pool are likely to be a better investment since they are becoming more scarce, whereas skins are constantly being unboxed which somewhat stabilises the price of those. If you look on the steam market, you will see that falchion, riptide, shattered web cases etc. have somewhat maintained value. They have decreased, but not as much as skins. So I bought a few cases in hopes that they will increase after some time as well.
Don't listen to advice from random strangers on the internet. But personally, I'm holding onto all my skins and cases. In my opinion, the long term (10+ years) future of counter strike hasn't changed. There was always going to be a new game, and the release was always going to be buggier than csgo.
IMO never sell during a hit, just wait for the next rise no matter how long that is, doesn’t have to be a huge rise just never sell for less than you bought it for
Tbh, i dont understand why a lot of people say that a new operation will crash the prices. A 20-30% price decrease in not a 'crash' its more of an opportunity to buy. Most of the people that have invested in the market in the past 2-3 years came in at some very high entry points. The game looks very good for its first year, i think in 1-2 years time cs2 will be in a very good state. Nobody was born perfect guys, remember. What i am scared of in regards to the CS market is ...the crypto market and the upcoming bull market.
if i learned anything from rich people who invest, is that you always buy during the dip ) also, have you ever considered investing in TF2 items? i've been playing it since 2009 and i consider it to be an unearthed goldmine that many people seem to forget about.. my guess is that they just don't want to learn about it's vast economy and spend 27$ to unlock all of the 3000 backpack slots
tf2 is in limbo for me as I want to see valve truly make a difference before I buy in. That being said I only know VERY surface level stuff as I've researched how the hats and crates work but nothing else
csgo 450fps(some settings high some low), cs2 max fps 190 sometimes drops to 140 (low settings), with 240hz monitor it feels like roberry xd, but well ig its time to buy new pc :))).(im still hoping they will somehow optimalize cs so i dont have to buy ne pc :D)
they have a beta branch out currently that apparently fixes the 1% lows. Your average fps likely wont change much but it will feel smoother once it gets added to the main game
I wanna say its bullshit that if you get kicked its a 1k elo loss. Na has some toxic fuckers and ive lost 3 k elo from being kicked either from a press f1 for a time out or just because someone said clutch or kick...IN PREMIER. I was at 8k elo to start and after 2 months of grinding im now back at 8k wtf.
10/10 it’s everything I’ve been telling everyone 1:1 love this finally someone with common sense here Cases king, time to dump some cash, buff prices on cases will catch up but rn it’s a masssssive discount buff some cases rn
Skins looks so much worse, i sold all my skins, in csgo u could enjoy skins on low settings, in cs2 it doesnt even matter which settings u are using, and lets not even talk about core game stuff...
I'd say something you could see yourself playing for years, if a game can stay in your rotation that long there's something you love about it even if you secretly hate it (cs). While cod bo2 was the most fun I had playing games I couldn't see myself playing it for years type of thing
@@xBeepzI'd say for "best" game you would need to have cultural impact in all generations for at least a decade. I think CSGO comes close, Minecraft, WoW, LoL and GTA5 are good contenders too.
I think it's actually better that: A: They don't care about the market right now B: They didn't push the operation for the release. I'm very sure we'll get operation or something similar to that before Christmas. It's better to prioritize to fix the gameplay issues and then push new content.
there prioritizing the major so there making sure the Game is truly Esport ready for next year i dont think whe will get a operation before Copenhagen
I get what you mean but these mfs got billions of dollars you’d think they could do both like bruh
"compared to other AAA titles, CS2 is already a polished game"
It's crazy isn't it?
whats crazy, i dont get it
@@RochaPartneristDeadFireHD It's crazy that AAA devs nowadays get away with releasing open alphas as a full release and everyone just accepts it and even throw them a $70 pricetag right down their throat
Always remember: Counter-strike players don’t quit, they take breaks.
I enjoy the critical optimism. Counter-Strike survives because Counter-Strike players are so stubborn about their game. We need to complain loudly until Valve fixes our game. We just need to give them some time. One thing I think you forgot to directly mention is that Valorant official servers provide 128 tick and CS is very behind in that aspect of the game. We need to directly compete with Valorants' playerbase to survive and grow. We want our game to get as big as it can get.
While I would prefer if cs2 was 128 tick it also seems like most of the current glaring issues are separate from tickrate. I hope it comes in the future but right now it's only a small piece of the pie.
Will you ffs stop complaining about 128?! Ffs, 99.99% of the player base cant see any difference. Play the game and stop crying about it.
@@EurovisionESC L reply
@@Valorant-is-Trash valorat is indeed trash but you're a BOT
@@EurovisionESC nice fake stats buddy 😂
you probably also believe the human eye can't see more than 60fps.
Compared to other sequels we seen recently like Dying light 2, Payday 3, overwatch 2, Ark 2 or survival ascended what the difference now is, Cs2 was better than my expectations.
cant forget battlefield 2042 also
Bruh the scam bots think your talking about the forex trading and not the csgo trading
they come in nearly every video they must be triggered by keywords. So many accounts to ban :(
tried valorant..its shit and a girls game. would not try that shit again. CS2 is still the best. i play everyday.
Cool
Beta-1.3 was the best time of CS I swear, we made our own skins and uploaded them into the files with ease. Wanted a butterfly done with a simple download and drag a file into cs files. 😅😂😅😂
Beta 4.0.gang
5 days no update?
I disagree somewhat with your assessment about cases. I hold a ton of cases, but if an operation drops the prices for cases and basically any item in the game would drop sharply. The more stuff there is in the game the thinner the money in the economy will get stretched thinner so it will take a while for the prices to go up further. First the amount of new stuff generated in a given timeframe has to die off, which usually happens in the ending stages of the operation and then we might see rises.
I think we were just looking at two different scales. When an operation drops it pulls money away from previous items. Because we don't know if an operation comes this year I ignored potentially timing the dip and looking at the long term if an operation did come. Big boost to players that lasts months, typically significant game updates, if we get a good operation a big influx of content around the game + new fans (its why I want a campaign so bad). You are correct but I'd say coming out of the operation, prices would be higher than if it never happened
i will just buy more cases. i have 100 storage units half full
@@jamesnguyen7069 bubble
This is partially true and well represented by the effect of the Anubis collection package, which is still having a large impact on player wealth. Luckily, when something new will release it will draw players away from the Anubis collection, and they likely won't return to it. Of course it depends on what they choose to release but something new could actual help get players to reprioritize their purchases.
@@jamesnguyen7069jesus
!remindme 10 years
I wonder what new content, knife finishes, sticker effects, skins await us...
If we get valorant level skins I don't want to be reminded of the good times
Burnout is real on cs2. Never realized how much time I spent enjoying myself outside of comp. you can only grind so many matches back to back. Surfing, community dm, 1v1, and bhop were my safe havens.
Being a new player and having no idea what operations were in CS I decided to look it up. I now regret searching cs operation on youtube
holy shit I just HAD to let my curiosity get the better of me 💀
Man we REEEEEEALLY need an operation. I love them and haven't played one if so long
The market stopped crashing and it has been going back up since a few days ago lol
What a great timing to spend my paycheck on knife/gloves combo
bruh does market really have to crash 2 weeks after I start flipping skins
😢
Right now is perfect to start averaging out your pricings!
that sucks man :( but it does give new opportunities if you're actively flipping as people panic sell
@@ptreeNA prices are still quite high sadly want 2020 prices were a fire serpent was 400 on steam market
@@MakkerHeinekenyoure dumb, even better is to buy 50000 cases for 0.03 dollars like it was in 2020 and then boom 3 years later you have 50000x2.5$
1.6 player that never played source(because it sucked in comparison)
Soon to be a csgo player that never played cs2(because it sucks in comparison)
The difference is that 1.6 and Source were completely different games whereas CS2 is just an enhancement (soon to be) of CS:GO. Bugs will be fixed continuously and then the only changes compared to CS:GO will be be smokes, molotovs and a revamped buy menu.
As a not so savvy CS Market watcher would it be in my best interest to try and sell the skins I own right now? I haven’t been watching the market but if it continues to drop I don’t wish to lose money.
THIS IS NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE buuuut, I am holding right now, and am considering buying more skins. The reason being is this: the prices have dropped. Typically in a market, you want to buy the dip because you expect the prices to go back up again once whatever problem that caused it is fixed. The prices were inflated before, so they have returned to a baseline level, but they are likely to start increasing again once the game is fixed and feeling good with additional players being brought in. So basically, the prices are expected to start increasing again, if you panic sell you will lose on that speculated future gain.
A more interesting move would be to trade skins for cases. Skins aren't the best investment, because there is a supply of them. Conversely, cases that aren't actively dropping will always decrease in number, creating scarcity which increases the price. Even cases in the rare drop pool are being opened faster than they are being acquired. So these cases that aren't in the main actively dropping pool are likely to be a better investment since they are becoming more scarce, whereas skins are constantly being unboxed which somewhat stabilises the price of those. If you look on the steam market, you will see that falchion, riptide, shattered web cases etc. have somewhat maintained value. They have decreased, but not as much as skins. So I bought a few cases in hopes that they will increase after some time as well.
wait a few months
Sell in January.Thank me then.
Don't listen to advice from random strangers on the internet. But personally, I'm holding onto all my skins and cases. In my opinion, the long term (10+ years) future of counter strike hasn't changed. There was always going to be a new game, and the release was always going to be buggier than csgo.
serious question, as an owner of a ruby and sapphire that both took significant hits, what should I do?
Rubies are still amazing, the sapphires just look bad.
@@Trashcan9999 both are chalked, I hope they recover some so I can just cash out
IMO never sell during a hit, just wait for the next rise no matter how long that is, doesn’t have to be a huge rise just never sell for less than you bought it for
DOOMSDAY IS COMING 11/21/2023
It will rise up like phoenix bird
another ptree banger Pog
Tbh, i dont understand why a lot of people say that a new operation will crash the prices.
A 20-30% price decrease in not a 'crash' its more of an opportunity to buy. Most of the people that have invested in the market in the past 2-3 years came in at some very high entry points.
The game looks very good for its first year, i think in 1-2 years time cs2 will be in a very good state. Nobody was born perfect guys, remember.
What i am scared of in regards to the CS market is ...the crypto market and the upcoming bull market.
Great video. I usually don't comment, but great video.
if i learned anything from rich people who invest, is that you always buy during the dip ) also, have you ever considered investing in TF2 items? i've been playing it since 2009 and i consider it to be an unearthed goldmine that many people seem to forget about.. my guess is that they just don't want to learn about it's vast economy and spend 27$ to unlock all of the 3000 backpack slots
yep. the rich get richer
tf2 is in limbo for me as I want to see valve truly make a difference before I buy in. That being said I only know VERY surface level stuff as I've researched how the hats and crates work but nothing else
it so nice to see someone interested in tf2 items but i rather invest in the game with the bigger player base thats a lot safer
As long as the game has that sub tick garbage, people won't stay
All I heard its time to buy skins
csgo 450fps(some settings high some low), cs2 max fps 190 sometimes drops to 140 (low settings), with 240hz monitor it feels like roberry xd, but well ig its time to buy new pc :))).(im still hoping they will somehow optimalize cs so i dont have to buy ne pc :D)
they have a beta branch out currently that apparently fixes the 1% lows. Your average fps likely wont change much but it will feel smoother once it gets added to the main game
Seems very system dependant. Though my FPS has dropped, I've gone from 400-500 range to 350-400 range which is honestly acceptable.
I wanna say its bullshit that if you get kicked its a 1k elo loss. Na has some toxic fuckers and ive lost 3 k elo from being kicked either from a press f1 for a time out or just because someone said clutch or kick...IN PREMIER. I was at 8k elo to start and after 2 months of grinding im now back at 8k wtf.
when you record this ? paris is no longer avaiable in game store
just referencing when it was, all of those fun times are gone now
CS2 so broken ngl thats not fun
People need to grow up and accept new things that come in life...
“Bad things “
i hope it goes back to the state a year, year and a half ago, market sellers are hyping each other to raise the prices, smh.
Selling my skins already, kiss my ass - goodbye valve.
panic sell plz you should freak out sell everyting let me make profit
10/10 it’s everything I’ve been telling everyone 1:1 love this finally someone with common sense here Cases king, time to dump some cash, buff prices on cases will catch up but rn it’s a masssssive discount buff some cases rn
Just be patient, that’s all
Release? It's just a beta, chill...
Copium
Here First! 😎
sick brah
Skins looks so much worse, i sold all my skins, in csgo u could enjoy skins on low settings, in cs2 it doesnt even matter which settings u are using, and lets not even talk about core game stuff...
Tf r you talking about? 90% of skins look way better in CS2 than CSGO
@@Ho_Lii_Fuk good for u if like them
@@Ho_Lii_Fuk dopplers are fucked
@@Ho_Lii_Fuk hes retarded or blind probably
man... I love CS but it is by no means the best game of all time
are we calling minecraft a contender? only game I could think of that matches the status
@@ptreeNA If the only eqaution is sales, popularity and impact, Minecraft for sure tops CS. What does best game of all time mean to u though?
I'd say something you could see yourself playing for years, if a game can stay in your rotation that long there's something you love about it even if you secretly hate it (cs). While cod bo2 was the most fun I had playing games I couldn't see myself playing it for years type of thing
@@xBeepzI'd say for "best" game you would need to have cultural impact in all generations for at least a decade. I think CSGO comes close, Minecraft, WoW, LoL and GTA5 are good contenders too.