The 'extra' doctor was Richard E Grant. This was a very geeky reference to the fact that Grant played a (non canonical..?) version of the Doctor in a pretty obscure 2003 webisode called Scream of the Shalka. It's a bit cheeky,and seems (at least,to me) to be a visual gag in order to freak out fans :D
And with the timeless child RTD mentioned that now the gloves are off and basically every non-canon doctor can be canon somewhere. I kinda like the idea. I still don't like the timeless child, but at least now the enumeration is completely out the window and Shalka-doctor just wasn't the 9th but nth doctor somewhere :D
The unknown face along with the other previous incarnations of the Doctor was the Shalka Doctor (Richard E. Grant) from the 2003 animated 6-part web series called "Scream of the Shalka" it was set up as part of the 40th anniversary at the time and it was originally intended to be the revival series of Classic Who and that the Shalka Doctor would be the Ninth Doctor but when Russell T. Davies announced he was bringing the series back in 2003 with Christopher Eccleston as the "official" Ninth Doctor back to TV screens after it's 14 year absence the animated web series was cancelled and RTD deemed the Shalka Doctor to be non-canon back in 2003 until all of a sudden for some bizarre reason RTD made him canon for this episode, RTD has since said he did that as a "joke" apparently. Also the name of the actor who played ratigast the Seventh Doctor is Sylvester McCoy.
Apparently the “new” face in the past Doctors is someone who played the “9th” doctor in the hiatus between the 8th movie doc and Eccleston’s 9th doctor. I don’t recall his name, but he also played one of the Doctors in the comedy movie written by Stephen Moffat…also in that in between period😏
@@WatchwithMarcella probably🤞The Comic Relief that Grant was in was “The Curse of Fatal Death”…along with everybody and his second cousin also playing the Doctor. 😉 It’s probably on TH-cam by now…a really fun watch😊.
My hot take theory, He intentionally pushed Ruby so he could join the birds instead of them taking ruby because he was not a bounty hunter but instead because he is a bird. My theory reason? His ship was shaped like a bird. Bounty hunter could have been a cover. And doctor helped get them all home st once.. since his device only sent 1, trapping them all on earth. The Find Me being a trap.
04:04 "Can we flirt more?" With Groffsauce and Ncuti? Ohhhhhh yes. Two of the most charismatic actors out there who can have chemistry with literally anyone, combined. I about combusted, they're so adorable on screen!! Anyway, love your reactions, couldn't resist commenting on the cuteness of those two. I spent the following week after it hit Disney Plus on AO3 reading Doctor/Rogue fanfic as it dropped, lol.
The real world explanation - before the Doctor Who return to television in 2005, BBC tried to bring back Doctor Who as an animated web series. They cast Richard E. Grant (an excellent choice) to play the ninth Doctor and released the first story of the new series "Scream of the Shalka". Of course, then the TV series got green-lit and the web series was canceled and we got Christopher Eccleston introduced as the ninth Doctor and poor Richard E. Grant ninth Doctor was swept under the rug (metaphorically). The "in my head" explanation - the Time War happened. It chaged the Doctor's timeline and instead of the eight Doctor naturally regenerating into Richard E. Grant Doctor when the time came as events would have unfolded, that branch of the timeline was closed off with all of the temporal war events and he became the War Doctor instead, and then the ninth Doctor that we know. But then came the salt at the edge of the universe and a whole bunch of impossible things happening like bi-generation and somehow that closed off timeline, that alternate reality that had been sealed away also became real (I believe the Toymaker mentions that he made a jigsaw out of the Doctor's past so maybe he brought that Doctor back just for the fun of it). End result: that ninth Doctor now exists as well. Real world end result: that "Shalka" Doctor is now considered canon thanks to Richard E. Grant's head appearing in with the rest of the Doctors. What does that mean? Who knows. I suppose he could pop up in some sort of multi-Doctor story at some point (that would be so awesome). I suppose he could get an entire series of audio adventures over at Big Finish (also cool). It could be nothing. Time will tell in its own wibbly wobbly timey wimey sort of way.
@@WatchwithMarcella That's an interesting question. There could be some possibilities there. One is just coincidence (while that may seem unlikely, the Doctor has randomly had the same appearance as other characters in the past - first Doctor as the Abbot of Amboise, second Doctor as Ramón Salamander, and it has even happened with companions from time to time such as Romana looking exactly like Princess Strella - wonder if goblins were somehow involved behind the scenes that we never saw?). It could also be in that alternate timeline that never existed - until it did - the Shalka Doctor had defeated the Great Intelligence in an adventure and it somehow remembered the incident or at least that face out of anger (knowingly or not - sort of the way Ruby sort of remembers events from 73 yards such as that mysterious woman they keep encountering but she couldn't remember where she saw her or that she had been to Wales three times instead of two and perhaps other memories she could yet remember without knowing why). When it needed a face, that one just came to mind. Echoes of events that happened, but never happened. I'm sure there are other possibilities as well.
It was a great episode in some parts though I have to say I wasn't the biggest fan of the kiss because i was always on the religion that the Doctor is a-sexual I mean if it was with a companion that's fine but with the Doctor as a character it kind of takes away from the alieness and the atmosphere of the character and makes the character less interesting I feel the writers humanise the Doctor far too much and the Doctor should be beyond all that.
The 'extra' doctor was Richard E Grant. This was a very geeky reference to the fact that Grant played a (non canonical..?) version of the Doctor in a pretty obscure 2003 webisode called Scream of the Shalka. It's a bit cheeky,and seems (at least,to me) to be a visual gag in order to freak out fans :D
And with the timeless child RTD mentioned that now the gloves are off and basically every non-canon doctor can be canon somewhere. I kinda like the idea. I still don't like the timeless child, but at least now the enumeration is completely out the window and Shalka-doctor just wasn't the 9th but nth doctor somewhere :D
The unknown face along with the other previous incarnations of the Doctor was the Shalka Doctor (Richard E. Grant) from the 2003 animated 6-part web series called "Scream of the Shalka" it was set up as part of the 40th anniversary at the time and it was originally intended to be the revival series of Classic Who and that the Shalka Doctor would be the Ninth Doctor but when Russell T. Davies announced he was bringing the series back in 2003 with Christopher Eccleston as the "official" Ninth Doctor back to TV screens after it's 14 year absence the animated web series was cancelled and RTD deemed the Shalka Doctor to be non-canon back in 2003 until all of a sudden for some bizarre reason RTD made him canon for this episode, RTD has since said he did that as a "joke" apparently.
Also the name of the actor who played ratigast the Seventh Doctor is Sylvester McCoy.
Thanks
Apparently the “new” face in the past Doctors is someone who played the “9th” doctor in the hiatus between the 8th movie doc and Eccleston’s 9th doctor. I don’t recall his name, but he also played one of the Doctors in the comedy movie written by Stephen Moffat…also in that in between period😏
@@MAB_Canada thanks for the info!!! Wonder how this ties into Grant being the great intelligence or is this like Capaldi being from Pompeii!
@@WatchwithMarcella probably🤞The Comic Relief that Grant was in was “The Curse of Fatal Death”…along with everybody and his second cousin also playing the Doctor. 😉 It’s probably on TH-cam by now…a really fun watch😊.
@MAB_Canada I wish they would put those on Disney m+
Thanks, Marcella! ⏳ I surely hope Mr. Groff reprises the role at some point in the near-future.
My hot take theory,
He intentionally pushed Ruby so he could join the birds instead of them taking ruby because he was not a bounty hunter but instead because he is a bird. My theory reason? His ship was shaped like a bird. Bounty hunter could have been a cover. And doctor helped get them all home st once.. since his device only sent 1, trapping them all on earth. The Find Me being a trap.
Interesting theory
04:04 "Can we flirt more?" With Groffsauce and Ncuti? Ohhhhhh yes. Two of the most charismatic actors out there who can have chemistry with literally anyone, combined. I about combusted, they're so adorable on screen!! Anyway, love your reactions, couldn't resist commenting on the cuteness of those two. I spent the following week after it hit Disney Plus on AO3 reading Doctor/Rogue fanfic as it dropped, lol.
@@NerdvanaReactions thanks so much!
The real world explanation - before the Doctor Who return to television in 2005, BBC tried to bring back Doctor Who as an animated web series. They cast Richard E. Grant (an excellent choice) to play the ninth Doctor and released the first story of the new series "Scream of the Shalka". Of course, then the TV series got green-lit and the web series was canceled and we got Christopher Eccleston introduced as the ninth Doctor and poor Richard E. Grant ninth Doctor was swept under the rug (metaphorically). The "in my head" explanation - the Time War happened. It chaged the Doctor's timeline and instead of the eight Doctor naturally regenerating into Richard E. Grant Doctor when the time came as events would have unfolded, that branch of the timeline was closed off with all of the temporal war events and he became the War Doctor instead, and then the ninth Doctor that we know. But then came the salt at the edge of the universe and a whole bunch of impossible things happening like bi-generation and somehow that closed off timeline, that alternate reality that had been sealed away also became real (I believe the Toymaker mentions that he made a jigsaw out of the Doctor's past so maybe he brought that Doctor back just for the fun of it). End result: that ninth Doctor now exists as well. Real world end result: that "Shalka" Doctor is now considered canon thanks to Richard E. Grant's head appearing in with the rest of the Doctors. What does that mean? Who knows. I suppose he could pop up in some sort of multi-Doctor story at some point (that would be so awesome). I suppose he could get an entire series of audio adventures over at Big Finish (also cool). It could be nothing. Time will tell in its own wibbly wobbly timey wimey sort of way.
@@yencoCom thanks!!!!!
@@yencoCom how does Grant’s run as the Great Intelligence fit into all this though?
@@WatchwithMarcella That's an interesting question. There could be some possibilities there. One is just coincidence (while that may seem unlikely, the Doctor has randomly had the same appearance as other characters in the past - first Doctor as the Abbot of Amboise, second Doctor as Ramón Salamander, and it has even happened with companions from time to time such as Romana looking exactly like Princess Strella - wonder if goblins were somehow involved behind the scenes that we never saw?). It could also be in that alternate timeline that never existed - until it did - the Shalka Doctor had defeated the Great Intelligence in an adventure and it somehow remembered the incident or at least that face out of anger (knowingly or not - sort of the way Ruby sort of remembers events from 73 yards such as that mysterious woman they keep encountering but she couldn't remember where she saw her or that she had been to Wales three times instead of two and perhaps other memories she could yet remember without knowing why). When it needed a face, that one just came to mind. Echoes of events that happened, but never happened. I'm sure there are other possibilities as well.
sally sprite, lol 💚
@@GhostPurple69 😏😂
It was a great episode in some parts though I have to say I wasn't the biggest fan of the kiss because i was always on the religion that the Doctor is a-sexual I mean if it was with a companion that's fine but with the Doctor as a character it kind of takes away from the alieness and the atmosphere of the character and makes the character less interesting I feel the writers humanise the Doctor far too much and the Doctor should be beyond all that.