No u are 100 percent wrong about hope she still in love with liam all beacons of bill and steffy and in clouding thomas he want hope must forget about Liam
I was thinking the same thing!!! I find it weird since I have step siblings. My brother and sister together… That would be weird. The Thomas now is a creep. I miss this Thomas!!!
Yeah this Thomas I liked for the most part this is the Thomas that Brooke was really close with she was the only person who supported him in his fashion dream at the beginning
"You should have had more faith in how I felt about you. You should have had faith I wouldn't just drop everything with you." Dude, you literally put a ring one someone's finger, a few moments after you were engaged to someone else that you declared you loved so much. I don't think I would have had faith in you either 😂
Dang Thorne narrating while watching shots of what was happening was good. He has the voice for it and they should have done more of that like on Mondays and Fridays
Liam is the male version of Brooke if you think about it. Liam liked having Hope and Steffy fight over him just like Brooke doesn't care who she hurts as long as it benefits her in the bedroom.
@@isaiahhill2104 Maybe Brooke will push Liam off the cliff someday. Lol I'm just surprised they haven't slept together yet. We know Brooke's history with her daughters boyfriend's and husband's.
@@criticwatcher I’d love to see an April Fools episode of B&B where Hope finds Brooke in bed with Liam and where Katie is sleeping with Eric. Heck, they could even make Stephanie be alive and interact with Quinn. (Keep in mind, this idea would be completely not canon and not actually be anything long term - think of the April Fools’ episode of DAYS from last year if you are familiar with that soap.)
@@criticwatcher Thomas being obsessed with Hope was a 2019 rewrite to prop up Hope/LOPE. I don’t hate Hope, but I loathe how Brad Bell was willing to throw Thomas’ character under the bus to make her the center of attention.
@@isaiahhill2104 I don't think Thomas would have ever gone after Hope back in the Cabo days if it hadn't been for Steffy pressuring him back then. Thomas always seemed happier when he was with someone other than Hope and with Matt's portrayal of Thomas.
This version of Thomas wasn't obsess with Hope sure he liked her alot but they never really became of anything. The writers change Thomas which I've always hated.
Honestly Ive always preferred Steffy and Liam though I've always understood that Liam and hope are each others first love. BUT...... Can't help but admit that Steffy got herself into this when she tried going for a man that wasn't hers for the taking Still love em but this shows me that this entire relationship is a sham
HOPELESS has lied to Liam and she has dumped him many time over her misunderstand , yet he forgive Hopeless over and over as well. Liam and Hopeless relationship is a sham too.
Liam should've realised that Steffy is a better woman for him, but he's obsessed with being a hero and rescuing women in trouble. Steffy doesn't need Liam to rescue her whereas Hope is always in trouble. He's with her because he feels obligated to be with her
@@phahlakazielisamathe4879 Yep! Also, Hope allowed Steffy use him as a toy to attack her, and the worse part is they never even realize she's actually doing it. Period!
@RealTakerslady Oh plz! Hope had it coming! If she haven't gone over to cross Steffy's wrath to compromise herself, Liam, and thier relationship by gloating and rubbing her family's victory in Steffy's face while she devastated and despair, over a scenario that has nothing to do with her nor business. Hope wouldn't never be in that situation and Liam's life wouldn't turned upside down.
@@RealTakerslady Yeah at first, but Steffy move passed it, dealt with it when she came back from Paris to face her insecurities for her love and feelings for Bill, which there nothing wrong with knowing what you true want and it definitely had nothing with Logan and Forrester family war, and Hope! As for Hope, what she did was dangerous and wrong. She brought all the hurt and pain to herself, not to mention drag Liam into Steffy's wrath along with her!
Steffy did whatever she did because she love Liam hope should not hav take off her ring its all her fault she didn't love him enough to fight for him and if Liam did really love hope no matter wat steffy won't hav a chance
Nope Steffy shouldn't have been kissing on Hope's fiance, Liam was an idoit for ever getting caught up with such a snake like Steffy, look what she did with his dad while married to him.
So its ok with you if women like steffy was chasing after your partner kissing him make out with him even sleep with him if she could So its ok because she loves him Hypocrisy 🤮
Steffy: "Hope never loved you the way I do" Hope the episode after Steffy revealed she was pregnant : "I know that she loves you, but no one will ever love you the way I do" Lol maybe the reason Liam loves both of them is because they are more alike than they realize
This Thomas was way better than the new one I miss this Thomas he and this hope would have made a great couple they sure together indeed 😁 so cute not what they have now which is crappy actors 😂
Steffy couldn't turn it into the Forrester Logan feud. The difference this time was Hope was actually with a guy first that a Forrester woman wasn't with. Brooke on the other hand, yes. I get what Steffy was saying about Brooke.
This version of Hope knew how to dress. I guess I miss the signs of hope & thomas back then I thought they were cute but that's it. Why did Thomas have to become psycho now just for them to try this couple again. It would've been easier for me to like them now if the writers didn't change Thomas personality.
18:13 -- Ah, there's the pushy and controlling traits of Thomas coming out! Considering how creepy and kinda unhinged Thomas is in 2019, seeing this gives it more sense. This must be the first time we see this kind of thing coming from Thomas, cause I don't recall ever seeing it before.
Steffy doesn't really "love" Liam here... she just wants him to be super complacent, so she can control him in order to make herself feel okay. Steffy is incredibly codependent. In fact, this video should be used as an example of what codependency can look like in a relationship. Haha.
@@marya6029😂😂😂 such hypocrisy Taylor is no better than brook She slept with rick plus the rest of the forrester men While her daughter phoebe was in love with rick Not to mention steffy’s making out with him also while phoebe is in love with him So who is hope to them compared to phoebe And when phoebe knew about her mommy she caused the accident that killed her Plus saint Taylor slept with all the logen men If we forget about the random men she used to pick at bars while being drunk But yet we have hypocrites fan defending her 🤮🤮 Thinking they are the only ones watching 😂😂
Adam Gregory (Thomas) is way hotter then Scott Clifton ( Liam) and Thomas is way better for Hope then Liam ever was I mean they come from the same world and Thomas understands Hope in ways that Liam could never understand her
Steffy, I sure hope you have learned your lesson, your manipulations, have caught up with you, the things you done, the lies you told, it has burned you big time, and it's gonna burn you for a little while, you deserve it. Steffy going after a man who happens to be in romantic relationship, is a bad move, a move that happens not be worth it.
@@annasutter7135 Liam is not a man. He's a boy. If he a man, he won't let Steffy manipulating him and pull his strings. Also definitely won't tolerate Hope's immature and childish behavior.
Thomas tell me what's to admire about a emotional, dysfunctional 😭😭😭 baby. I think what you felt is pity and talk yourself in believing that it's more. Get over it.
steffy u now what is love mind to answer that question steffy u don't what is love u are such a manipulation trouble make baby make steffy paper bag of all hope boyfriend
Love this Thomas and Hope!!❤❤❤
Wow Thomas has had these feelings since 2010-2011? I guess he proves patience is a virtue cause in 2023, Hope finally developed feelings for him
This Thomas and hope chemistry is so hoooooot.. 💕💕
Mmmm but are they not related through their father Ridge? This film pushes boundaries doesn't it?🤔
@@JoeQuansa no they r not. Deacon is Hopes father. Not Ridge.
Carolyn Villegas yes but Ridge adopted & raised her.
@@JoeQuansa I don't think he legally adopted her but emotionally adopted her and raised her
Liam and Hope are 10% hot
Thomas and Hope are 10000000% hot🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
9:16 incredible 11 years from now Steffy is right Hope kisses Thomas and rips out Liam’s heart
This Hope and this Thomas would have made a cute couple.
facts, they are also good looking to
I agree Hope and Thomas makes a great couple .
No u are 100 percent wrong about hope she still in love with liam all beacons of bill and steffy and in clouding thomas he want hope must forget about Liam
I was thinking the same thing!!! I find it weird since I have step siblings. My brother and sister together… That would be weird. The Thomas now is a creep. I miss this Thomas!!!
Yeah this Thomas I liked for the most part this is the Thomas that Brooke was really close with she was the only person who supported him in his fashion dream at the beginning
How Hope didn't want this Thomas is far beyond my comprehension
I know if Hope had only given him a chance to make her happy
Kim Matula is such a natural beauty
she is the new hope is am eyesore
Agrees she was strong standing up to steffy
Annika is beautiful be nice
@@Shycrochetqueen Annika is beautiful too, yes! Kim just was perfect!
"You should have had more faith in how I felt about you. You should have had faith I wouldn't just drop everything with you."
Dude, you literally put a ring one someone's finger, a few moments after you were engaged to someone else that you declared you loved so much. I don't think I would have had faith in you either 😂
Hope should have gotten with Thomas, the one man Steffy can't steal
Well, the creepy version of Thomas is trying to do that now in 2019.....
Amen to that
Amen?!! 'Stupid"?, you! Hell, NO. 'If' i'm glad HOPE LOGAN ended 'Up" with Wyatt Spencer later 'when" he came! Amen 'to" That!, Hope, and WYATT.
I would have liked that, but then they went and made Thomas into a psychopath.
Hope never had feelings for Thomas!
I wish they had kept this amazing handsome Thomas and him and Hope should of got together screw stupid Liam ughhh
Dang Thorne narrating while watching shots of what was happening was good. He has the voice for it and they should have done more of that like on Mondays and Fridays
I love the way Thomas understands her in ways that Liam never did
Years later hope and Thomas
It’s cool that they used this music at 3:17 back in the 80s
Thomas can be manipulative like her sister but has more class than Liam
It must've been like a knife through Liam's heart when he saw the kiss and I wish she had feelings for him around this time
I like this Thomas way better than the new one. The new one looks like he’s 18
Yes he GORGEOUS!! Way better looking than 2019 Thomas. I wonder off this when Thomas obsession started with Hope
Agreed he’s so hot!!
Liam uses any excuse to flip flop between Hope and Steffy. He's just gross 😝
Liam is the male version of Brooke if you think about it. Liam liked having Hope and Steffy fight over him just like Brooke doesn't care who she hurts as long as it benefits her in the bedroom.
@@criticwatcher Liam is like Ridge and Brooke combined, but a mini-version. I wish Brad Bell would just get rid of him already!
@@isaiahhill2104 Maybe Brooke will push Liam off the cliff someday. Lol
I'm just surprised they haven't slept together yet. We know Brooke's history with her daughters boyfriend's and husband's.
@@criticwatcher I’d love to see an April Fools episode of B&B where Hope finds Brooke in bed with Liam and where Katie is sleeping with Eric. Heck, they could even make Stephanie be alive and interact with Quinn. (Keep in mind, this idea would be completely not canon and not actually be anything long term - think of the April Fools’ episode of DAYS from last year if you are familiar with that soap.)
@@isaiahhill2104 Yes! Some people say Days in underrated, but at least Days doesn't have repeated dialogue like Bold does.
This is how all this obession of Thomas start kicking in.
Wow this is the start of Thomas being obsessed with Hope
Steffy having Thomas distract Hope from Liam was what started it. Before Thomas and Hope hardly had scenes together.
@@criticwatcher Thomas being obsessed with Hope was a 2019 rewrite to prop up Hope/LOPE. I don’t hate Hope, but I loathe how Brad Bell was willing to throw Thomas’ character under the bus to make her the center of attention.
@@isaiahhill2104 I don't think Thomas would have ever gone after Hope back in the Cabo days if it hadn't been for Steffy pressuring him back then. Thomas always seemed happier when he was with someone other than Hope and with Matt's portrayal of Thomas.
This version of Thomas wasn't obsess with Hope sure he liked her alot but they never really became of anything. The writers change Thomas which I've always hated.
I miss THIS Thomas
Honestly Ive always preferred Steffy and Liam though I've always understood that Liam and hope are each others first love.
BUT...... Can't help but admit that Steffy got herself into this when she tried going for a man that wasn't hers for the taking
Still love em but this shows me that this entire relationship is a sham
HOPELESS has lied to Liam and she has dumped him many time over her misunderstand , yet he forgive Hopeless over and over as well. Liam and Hopeless relationship is a sham too.
Liam should've realised that Steffy is a better woman for him, but he's obsessed with being a hero and rescuing women in trouble. Steffy doesn't need Liam to rescue her whereas Hope is always in trouble. He's with her because he feels obligated to be with her
Steffy is her own worst enemy
still is she has turned into a younger version of Stephanie in her mind, a meaner more manipulator than Stephanie she is Massimo's granddaughter 100%
This is so hilarious. Liam let himself be lied and manipulated by Steffy, again.
Manipulation more more steffy
@@phahlakazielisamathe4879 Yep! Also, Hope allowed Steffy use him as a toy to attack her, and the worse part is they never even realize she's actually doing it. Period!
@@sherell273 its true😞
Thomas kinda looks like a young Christopher Reeve.
That was some cruel ish that Steffy did to Hope
@RealTakerslady Oh plz! Hope had it coming! If she haven't gone over to cross Steffy's wrath to compromise herself, Liam, and thier relationship by gloating and rubbing her family's victory in Steffy's face while she devastated and despair, over a scenario that has nothing to do with her nor business. Hope wouldn't never be in that situation and Liam's life wouldn't turned upside down.
sherell273 Steffy is just conniving and jealous. She can never keep Liam while Hope is in the picture.
@@RealTakerslady Yeah at first, but Steffy move passed it, dealt with it when she came back from Paris to face her insecurities for her love and feelings for Bill, which there nothing wrong with knowing what you true want and it definitely had nothing with Logan and Forrester family war, and Hope! As for Hope, what she did was dangerous and wrong. She brought all the hurt and pain to herself, not to mention drag Liam into Steffy's wrath along with her!
@@RealTakerslady The fact is Steffy doesn't loves Liam, she never did. She went through him for vengeance against Hope to make her life a living hell.
Hope eventually hurt Steffy when she throws her legs open for a married man Liam who was having a child with Steffy.
I love this Thorne
They need to bring back the old Thomas and they old ridge and just get rid of the old Brook lol
That was an awesome episode! Poor Hope she had no clue that Liam was right there!
Steffy sounded so crazy even then, everything she says Hope did she has done more than once. Can’t stand her, her brother, mother and dad.
Steffy did whatever she did because she love Liam hope should not hav take off her ring its all her fault she didn't love him enough to fight for him and if Liam did really love hope no matter wat steffy won't hav a chance
Nope Steffy shouldn't have been kissing on Hope's fiance, Liam was an idoit for ever getting caught up with such a snake like Steffy, look what she did with his dad while married to him.
Exactly Steffy loves Liam, Hope was the one who put her career before Liam.
Hope was angry beacons what steffy did to his boyfriend steffy is a paper bag
So its ok with you if women like steffy was chasing after your partner kissing him make out with him even sleep with him if she could
So its ok because she loves him
Hypocrisy 🤮
@@mieshaclarissa😂😂😂😂 so apparently you do the same as steffy??
Steffy is the one who manipulated Hope, and Hope is Liams true love!
Steffy: "Hope never loved you the way I do"
Hope the episode after Steffy revealed she was pregnant : "I know that she loves you, but no one will ever love you the way I do"
Lol maybe the reason Liam loves both of them is because they are more alike than they realize
This Thomas was way better than the new one I miss this Thomas he and this hope would have made a great couple they sure together indeed 😁 so cute not what they have now which is crappy actors 😂
That old Thomas was ok but this new Thomas has chemistry and he could act and knows how to handle his script that old Thomas was boring
Steffy is better off w Bill - they shud be together and have to live with each other’s behaviour
Steffy couldn't turn it into the Forrester Logan feud. The difference this time was Hope was actually with a guy first that a Forrester woman wasn't with. Brooke on the other hand, yes. I get what Steffy was saying about Brooke.
But brook was with ridge a way long before even Taylor was in the show
And we all know why ridge married Taylor first
I Miss this Thomas he was pretty hot as well
This version of Hope knew how to dress. I guess I miss the signs of hope & thomas back then I thought they were cute but that's it. Why did Thomas have to become psycho now just for them to try this couple again. It would've been easier for me to like them now if the writers didn't change Thomas personality.
18:13 -- Ah, there's the pushy and controlling traits of Thomas coming out! Considering how creepy and kinda unhinged Thomas is in 2019, seeing this gives it more sense. This must be the first time we see this kind of thing coming from Thomas, cause I don't recall ever seeing it before.
URGH! I wanna slap Liam! So full of himself!
MyahUnleashed that bitch
@@MyahUnleashed steffy is a real liar and steal man the steffy fans are blind or stupid sorry
@@mieshaclarissathe hypocrisy of steffy’s minions 🤮🤮
@@mmyash3836 girl I’m not gonna argue with you over a 2 year old comments but have a nice day
@@mieshaclarissa good
Its hard to argue with the truth
Have a nice day too
Thomas is the puppet of his sister
Steffy didn't care about Thomas's happiness in these episodes. Only when he benefited her with Liam.
Steffy doesn't really "love" Liam here... she just wants him to be super complacent, so she can control him in order to make herself feel okay. Steffy is incredibly codependent. In fact, this video should be used as an example of what codependency can look like in a relationship. Haha.
Jennifer T No, Hope is like that! STEAM ❤️❤️❤️
Haha so true
@Jennifer T Of course Steffy doesn't "love" Liam, she never has. She just went through him to hurt and torture Hope as a weapon.
nadine müller I disagree!
Taylor is a monster
Taylor is more a hypocrite
No! Taylor is lovely! Brooke is a monster!
nadine müller No, Brooke is worst! Sleeping with her daughter s and sisters husband? Are you serious?
Brooke and bill is want of the same
@@marya6029😂😂😂 such hypocrisy
Taylor is no better than brook
She slept with rick plus the rest of the forrester men
While her daughter phoebe was in love with rick
Not to mention steffy’s making out with him also while phoebe is in love with him
So who is hope to them compared to phoebe
And when phoebe knew about her mommy she caused the accident that killed her
Plus saint Taylor slept with all the logen men
If we forget about the random men she used to pick at bars while being drunk
But yet we have hypocrites fan defending her 🤮🤮
Thinking they are the only ones watching 😂😂
Adam Gregory (Thomas) is way hotter then Scott Clifton ( Liam) and Thomas is way better for Hope then Liam ever was I mean they come from the same world and Thomas understands Hope in ways that Liam could never understand her
Thomas the psycho murderer 😂😂😂😂
@@mmyash3836 This was before he became a killer
@@andreadowning3991 he tried that 3 times but no success still a murderer to me 🤮🤮🤮
St Taylor had the same Forrester men as Brooke smh😅
taylor always had a big mouth
Hope and thomas wold have made such e cuite coupel
It's all Liam's fault for being hasty.
Let him go steffy he not yours
Remember when Thomas was obsessed with Brooke??
That happened back in the early 2000's. Not sure if it was before or after this epoisde.
Hope always fishing for compliments and needing to be lifted onto that pedestal.
She didn't mention Bill Spencer helping her protecting him in case she needs him again.
Steffy was wrong but so has hope
I just hoop that hope will end up whith Thomas
Steffy, I sure hope you have learned your lesson, your manipulations, have caught up with you, the things you done, the lies you told, it has burned you big time, and it's gonna burn you for a little while, you deserve it. Steffy going after a man who happens to be in romantic relationship, is a bad move, a move that happens not be worth it.
How can he forgive Steffy? Because of the things she can do in bed.
liam is a idiot he is a man and thinks only with her tail
@@annasutter7135 Liam is not a man. He's a boy. If he a man, he won't let Steffy manipulating him and pull his strings. Also definitely won't tolerate Hope's immature and childish behavior.
Taylor’s life choices and lack of happiness doesn’t make her a good therapist 😖
Thomas tell me what's to admire about a emotional, dysfunctional 😭😭😭 baby. I think what you felt is pity and talk yourself in believing that it's more. Get over it.
Liam iirritates me.
And no Steffy u didn't tell him the truth becoz u didn't say u called his father to help
I think she took ownership. It was still her plan. Don't throw anyone else under the bus. Man up
steffy u now what is love mind to answer that question steffy u don't what is love u are such a manipulation trouble make baby make steffy paper bag of all hope boyfriend
Off corse he will forgive you steffy becos Liam is stubit and Love you .
Thomas is a sick puppy.
She see u kissing at car
Liam is such e foll