Browns Trade Amari Cooper to the Bills | Cleveland Browns Podcast 2024

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  • @lamina566
    @lamina566 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Just to remind everyone, the last time the Browns Offensive Line was any good was in 2021. I have been posting about the Browns Offensive Line performance since 2022 but Browns fans keep going for a new Wide Receiver, new Running Backs, or another Tight End. For god's sake, we went through 4 Quarterbacks last year with Watson and DTR injured and out for the season. This year Watson has been hit and sacked more than any Quarterback in the league. I have watched every game and am sick of seeing opposing defensive linemen not being blocked and hammering the Quarterback. I am surprised that Watson isn't injured and out for season at this point. Fix the GD offensive line, period!

  • @RickSanchez167
    @RickSanchez167 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Bro they paid Watson and then fought to not pay Cooper. I wouldn't want to be here either

    • @TheDawgsPodcast
      @TheDawgsPodcast  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They guaranteed him his $20M and added $5 when they could’ve just traded or cut him before the season. Pretty sure I can’t just stop doing my job because I don’t like what someone else is making. Honestly disappointed in Amari.

    • @kennymac4445
      @kennymac4445 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheDawgsPodcast looking back on it he was done when Flacco left, never really participated much in anything and was vacant most of this year

  • @lamina566
    @lamina566 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lets let this year play out even if the result is 3 Wins / 14 Losses. The players who demonstrate a commitment to working hard to get better and demonstrate their commitment to the team should be retained and those who don't should be gone. One other thing, I hope the Browns Front Office and Coaching Staff have learned an important lesson this year, i.e. that you don't hold open roster spots based on a "wish and a prayer" strategy for players who were lost for the prior season due to knee injuries.

  • @lamina566
    @lamina566 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Browns are stuck with Watson for 2 more years, end-of-story. Use the next 2 years to draft top-end wide receivers, offensive linemen, and pieces needed to complete Schwartz's defense.

  • @AshtonTheJoker216
    @AshtonTheJoker216 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Trading myles means full rebuild i dont think the browns wanna do that but guys like teller, newsome, smith, and jack are on the board

    • @kennymac4445
      @kennymac4445 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed

  • @AshtonTheJoker216
    @AshtonTheJoker216 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We for sure need to trade someone for a first round pick though so we can leverage that first to trade away watson and save cap room

    • @TheDawgsPodcast
      @TheDawgsPodcast  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You imagine this fan base if the Browns use 3 firsts to trade FOR him, and then use another first and picks to trade him AWAY? Holy crap...

    • @AshtonTheJoker216
      @AshtonTheJoker216 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheDawgsPodcast all would be forgiven if next year we draft a QB and he has a CJ stroud type of effect on the team

  • @damerey5232
    @damerey5232 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We will never ever get a defensive end as good as myles garrett ever again, you do not trade him

  • @lamina566
    @lamina566 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Guys, Cooper's play on the Browns this year has just been terrible. He hasn't shown up this year relative to his commitment, both mentally and physically, to the team. If he doesn't drop a pass in Buffalo, that just proves my point. As far as showing up this year, he was a no show for the Browns this year.

    • @kennymac4445
      @kennymac4445 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fair point, i m just coming to terms with it yet.

  • @aarionmoody4982
    @aarionmoody4982 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The aint trading Myles dude.

    • @kennymac4445
      @kennymac4445 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      we are out too, but like he said if the offer was outrageous like 3 #1's would you??

  • @ianrob4760
    @ianrob4760 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Correct me if I am wroing but the latest out of court settlement is a new offence ? Surely if the NFL suspend him for that we can then void his contract ?

    • @TheDawgsPodcast
      @TheDawgsPodcast  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If the NFL suspends him, it does open the avenue to explore voiding the contract. There's a lot of legal stuff involved if that happens, so it won't be as cut and dry as simply void and cut, but it does open the opportunity.

    • @ianrob4760
      @ianrob4760 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheDawgsPodcast I thought (again willing to be corrected) that when he redid his contract they put something in about unrelated cases etc and possibly that voids it ?

    • @kennymac4445
      @kennymac4445 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ianrob4760 it may have been removed

    • @ianrob4760
      @ianrob4760 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kennymac4445 ah I wonder why ??

  • @jimsmith8797
    @jimsmith8797 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There is 0 point in winning games at this point. Fail for Hunter. Play him both sides of the ball. Pickup a qb later in draft

    • @kennymac4445
      @kennymac4445 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am so sick of that crap tho like why can't we win some games like other teams and flip it into a good year

  • @AshtonTheJoker216
    @AshtonTheJoker216 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah these picks dont mean anything if berry is the one turning the card in but how many picks can a person miss on he’s about due

  • @lamina566
    @lamina566 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As far as Greg Newsome is concerned, the team is one hit away from another Denzel Ward concussion which could force him into an early retirement. Woods screwed over Newsome when he was forced to play the slot after Martin Emerson was drafted. In my opinion based on Emerson's performance this year, the Browns should keep Newsome by signing him to a new contract.

  • @tony2turnt437
    @tony2turnt437 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I ain't gone say no names, but I heard he was negative in the locker room, and as a die-hard Browns fan, you either with us or against us

  • @didgruntleddansnyderfan
    @didgruntleddansnyderfan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Moneyball time, and Myles Garrett is next. It's the right move, but I'd take up raking leaves and/or shoveling snow for the rest of the season if I were you. Tanking is not enjoyable to watch. Or keep the game on at the lowest volume practical while reading a Dostoyevski novel or something. That's how I made it through our Moneyball season last year as a Redskins fan. If you unfocus your eyes while watching it is also possible to trick yourself into imagining that your TV is actually an aquarium with weird and exotic fish in it. Very green as aqauriums go, but still: look at the pretty little fishes!

  • @bobwhite2
    @bobwhite2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Back to 2016

  • @En_Pissant
    @En_Pissant 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t think this trade is a sign of more to come at this point. They were trying to move him before the season, he (understandably) didn’t want to be here, and was playing horribly. It’s a good move to get what you can out of that. I don’t think that situation is analogous to any other on the team.

    • @leemassey9065
      @leemassey9065 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree with you. I mean, we are starting to get into our division games and AFC opponents. We still have to play better, and I'm happy that Bat Man is back. Hopefully they ease him back into the flow and get him acclimated to system. We'll see

    • @kennymac4445
      @kennymac4445 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he did wear out his welcome everywhere else.

  • @lamina566
    @lamina566 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Juan Thornhill was let go by Kansas City because he was always injured. We signed him and guess what, he seldom if ever plays because he is injured. He needs to go if they can get rid of him.

  • @AshtonTheJoker216
    @AshtonTheJoker216 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We gotta keep watson in so we can get the number 1 pick i dont wanna be at 2 3 4 or 5 just to miss on the top guy we dont need one of the top guys we need thee top guy

    • @TheDawgsPodcast
      @TheDawgsPodcast  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Watson does give us the best shot at 1-16.

    • @AshtonTheJoker216
      @AshtonTheJoker216 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheDawgsPodcast i honestly think that’s the game plan right now as bad as it sounds

    • @michaelroelant7134
      @michaelroelant7134 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@TheDawgsPodcastya think?that´s patriots style 😂

  • @lamina566
    @lamina566 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kenny, Bitonio's play this year has not been good just like the rest of the Browns Offensive Line. He needs to retire.

  • @trippeddownthestairs8238
    @trippeddownthestairs8238 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I truly hope that Browns fans give the team hell on Sunday. I want the hostility of the crowd to be the main story from the game. I don't want fans to be blinded by Nick Chubb's return and treat this team with kid gloves. I love Nick Chubb too, but the people who run the Browns need to understand that the product that they continue to put on the field every week is completely unacceptable. It's okay to love Nick Chubb and also let the boos and chants for Jameis Winston be deafening.

  • @ianrob4760
    @ianrob4760 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I tried to back Wartson, I tried to give him time but it's a failure. Clearly for me at least it seems his team mates do not like him no matter what they and others may say, Copps leaving is just a sign of this and look at how well Joe worked them. They should bench him, out him on IR, get him out in whatever way and then play DTR

    • @ianrob4760
      @ianrob4760 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and who is next most think Newsome right ?

  • @rodneydofunny3129
    @rodneydofunny3129 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't blame Deshaun for Amari crap. This is from a Oakland fan 5 years ago.
    Sharkbayer1
    Tired of Amari Cooper's shit
    He got a lot of love from this fan base and this team. DC is one of the nicest QBs in the league and actually put in personal time to make him feel welcome and important. But none of that was good enough for him. I know it was the Raider's decision to trade him away, but I think it's also pretty clear he wasn't putting as much effort into being a good player for Oakland than he did once he got to Dallas. There's little that pisses me off more than athletes who don't give their full effort to try and win (ask me how I feel about Manny Machado). Then he goes and talks shit. If you weren't happy in Oakland, it wasn't because they didn't jump through hoops for you. It wasn't because they didn't give you their full time, attention or effort. Geez, this does sound like I'm talking about an ex-girlfriend. But seriously, I'm gonna laugh my ass off when Coop starts playing like shit again because he starts feeling lost there. Thanks for the first Jerry. It's already turned into a starter, and we replaced Coop with two better receivers for a much lower cost. Have fun with the drops.

  • @johnnytyler5685
    @johnnytyler5685 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Normally Blake and I are on the same page about pretty much everything, but I have to disagree with him here. While I am definitely NOT saying that this season "isn't over", because it most certainly is, I don't think trading Cooper "signals that the Browns are punting on the season". It would signal that if Cooper was playing like he has been for the last few years...but with how he's playing now?! Regardless of how trash Watson is...and he IS trash...Cooper has become a liability on the field rather than an asset. You can quite literally pin one or two of our losses on his crucial dropped passes.
    The reality is this dude has quit on this team. Maybe some fans will think that is perfectly acceptable with what is going on with Watson, but I completely disagree. I don't see "quit" in any other receivers on this team, even with Watson being totally incapable of getting them the ball. Cooper has straight-up quit. Unlike all the other receivers, Watson keeps looking to Cooper as his #1 option and Cooper does nothing but drop every ball that is thrown his way.
    Cooper clearly quit on this team before the season even started. He wanted a long-term deal. He refused to participate in training camp in an attempt to get that deal. He didn't get that deal. Instead, he got a few more million dollars GUARANTEED, and he essentially stole that money and then never showed up for work. So he had to go...and I'm pretty happy with getting a 3rd round pick for him. I would've been much happier with something like a 3rd and a 5th with Cooper and a 6th going to the Bills, but I think we got a pretty reasonable return on our investment with this trade.
    We've spent so much time over the years complaining about how no players are ever held accountable when they come to Cleveland and treat it like a paid vacation. They get paid, do the absolute bare minimum amount of work and just steal money and cap space as they coast towards retirement. I actually feel like this trade is the first example of the organization holding a player accountable for their lack of effort on the field. But instead of just benching him or cutting him, both of which would've been horrific ideas, we actually got assets for the future by trading him. If he goes to Buffalo and plays great again, so be it. But he was NEVER going to play like that for this team ever again. He was leaving this team at the end of this season no matter what, he simply quit on us before the season even started.

  • @jahsoul357
    @jahsoul357 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Elijah Moore stay catching it, when in reality nobody on the Browns gets more open than him...lol

    • @TheDawgsPodcast
      @TheDawgsPodcast  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We can't properly judge any of our wide receivers right now, the passing game is one of the worst in NFL history statistically speaking.

    • @jahsoul357
      @jahsoul357 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheDawgsPodcast Yeah, it's ugly and you all are at a point where you don't know know who or what to blame. Would the O-line look a little better if the ball got out faster. Would the run game work better if you weren't in shotgun so much. Would there be better numbers for receivers if balls thrown more than 5 yards were more accurate and would DW4 have more confidence if those drops in the first 3 games didn't happen. But my Saints are sucking right now and we are facing some tough questions ourselves.

    • @michaelroelant7134
      @michaelroelant7134 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Patriots oline is even worse...and they believe in their new unproven qb....i still think he will be a bust tho...

  • @theohiooutdoors2444
    @theohiooutdoors2444 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Andrew Berry should be fired! He’s the cancer of this team!!!!!!!

  • @lamina566
    @lamina566 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I guess we now know why Jerry Jones (Dallas Cowboys owner) said get rid of Cooper before he was traded to the Browns.

  • @aaronbutler9373
    @aaronbutler9373 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    (Blake) having hate for Ravens doesn't makes them a bottom tier team/roster. And having love for Bluster-Buster-Browns doesn't makes them top tier team/roster. So next summer you should try and do some kind of homework. The homework suggested is to see if Ravens have acquired or kept the kind/type of personnel needed for Ravens success. Dig deeper into what Ravens need for success. Not your silly wants and ideas of success. If you gonna talk about what kind of year Ravens will have.Try it next off season. Until then enjoy Ravens march/walk/run to the Super Bowl. No need to watch Browns. Hahaha Hahaha Hahaha.

    • @TheDawgsPodcast
      @TheDawgsPodcast  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What are you talking about? I’m pretty sure I always talk about the Ravens being a top team.

    • @aaronbutler9373
      @aaronbutler9373 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheDawgsPodcast
      Not in the off season. You always say who are thier (whatever position). And silly talk of Lamar can't throw and regression. Same old lazy silliness. Yeah you say they a top team while they destroying during the season. But in off season. You talk of Ravens loss so many guys. So many coaches. Like the rest of national idiots. Ravens been losing guys and coaches for 25 years. It's by design actually. Hence leading NFL in comp picks and using those picks at highest level. Rinse and Repeat.

    • @leemassey9065
      @leemassey9065 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@TheDawgsPodcast this comment sounds like it came from Kamala Harris!

    • @En_Pissant
      @En_Pissant 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aaronbutler9373Rinse and repeat not making it to the Super Bowl? Don’t get me wrong, light years better than the Browns, but rinsing and repeating a failure to attain the goal seems a bit odd…no wait it doesn’t, that’s what the Browns are doing right now 😂

    • @didgruntleddansnyderfan
      @didgruntleddansnyderfan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So you're actually plannning to beat Mahomes this season?

  • @didgruntleddansnyderfan
    @didgruntleddansnyderfan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also:
    1: The NFL is not a police agency and shouldn't be doing this double jeaopardy stuff as if it is. The reason you supposedly settle is to pay your way out of stupid decisions without having your life destroyed. It isn't so Roger Goodell can immediately include the person you just paid off in his inept "investigation". If you absolutely must have truth and justice, don't agree to the settlement and go to court. But don't be a liar and do both, thus making me feel sympathy for the Massage King.
    2: The cap was frozen for the first twenty years of it being a thing. Just assuming it will rise for no reason every year is a little naive. It probably will freeze back up at some point, because having a floating cap like we've had since 2013 has caused a lot of problems for the teams. Easiest to see it with the inflated QB market. They are now paid about twice as much as the old cap allocation for QBs of ca 12%, which means less of the pie for the roster in general. That is one reason why non-QBs keep moving around so much now. Not enough money to pay everyone, because we're spending all of that on our JAG QBs now.

    • @kennymac4445
      @kennymac4445 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that was the point, if is seems naive because it was a hypothetical take based on past averages, I was grasping at straws to get out of this mess. yes it is highly unlikely.

    • @didgruntleddansnyderfan
      @didgruntleddansnyderfan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kennymac4445 Not hating and you're probably right. It's just that there's this lag now with the QB salaries that is biting everyone in the ass. Sooner or later it is going to freeze again so they can stabilize that particular market. And my take is that the Watson and even more so Dak Prescott contracts will force a freeze on the NFL soon. You can't inflate forever without becoming Zimbabwe, can you?
      Dak accounts now for 26% of the Cowboys cap. Not sure if it has to be 12%, but that was the old norm from when the cap was frozen if you'll recall. 26% is just not sustainable. One more of these mammoth deals and it'll have to turn around. It just destroys your team, so what is the point?

    • @kennymac4445
      @kennymac4445 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@didgruntleddansnyderfan thx for the clarification, I never know if people fully listen or just hear what they want. There is a huge National anti trust suit against the NFL and if they lose ,it most certainly will affect the NFL Cap and every player except the QB. No one taking a loss like Brady to win. Browns gambled and lost bad. Separate QB cap??

    • @didgruntleddansnyderfan
      @didgruntleddansnyderfan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kennymac4445 Not sure, but it might be moving in that direction. I highly doubt if all the primadonnas will accept a 50% salary cut to get this back down to functional levels, and obviously you can't just instantly balloon the cap up to more than twice what it is now to balance it that way either. And you can't wait for an organic cap increase, since that will take about twenty years at the current inflation rate, and more greedy players and agents will wash through the NFL every day until then so it won't even be relevant anymore.
      I think I'd almost prefer if an owner just laid down the law and put up a sign announcing a vacancy as a sportsball thrower for the appropriate $26 million per year. I was hoping Jerry Jones would do that when Dak demanded a preposterous $60 million per year, but no dice there.
      Meanwhile I know I'm signing Andy Dalton or somebody on a vet deal before I'm giving anyone a $60 million/year deal. It's just too much with the salary cap where it is. I did the math and the Cowboys cap would need to go from the $237 million it is now to about $580 million to balance the stupid Dak contract on the cap from a ridiculous 26% back down to approximately 12% so they can still construct a roster around him. I sometimes feel as if everyone is stupid, but surely that can't be it. Can it? Maybe we need to bring back home economics or something...

    • @kennymac10
      @kennymac10 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@didgruntleddansnyderfan if you remember, they had to do it with the first round of the NFL draft picks because missing out on a pick was ruining franchises and they couldn’t get out of it. It’s the same with quarterbacks now but 10 times worse.