I am not surprised, the handle is rather tiny. You would have no such problems with the Joker. The handle of that one is quite large. Thanks for watching mate, glad you are enjoying the content.
Thanks for the comparison! I've been looking at the saber version of the Joker knife but already own a scandi Brisa Nessmuk. I built my Brisa Nessmuk from a kit. It has micarta scales that I processed to have a rather rough finish, so it fits in the sheath very snug. Overall the sheath is what I like best about the knife! I bought 3 left-handed ones and use them with other knives that were delivered with right handed sheaths.
It is a nice sheath, I also have a second Brisa Nessmuk sheath that I picked up cheap, funnily enough the Joker Nessmuk fits perfectly into it. I think I have my NKD Korpi in there right now. The sabre grind would be really nice to try. They have been making some with antler handles. They look spectacular. Thanks for watching buddy.
I have also wondered about the sense in making a shape like this with a scandi grind when they look like a butchers knife which is probably what the originals started out as. Interesting to see the comparison Tim. Looks cold over there!
The shape is definitely intended for processing meat. Works great for wood though. The hump also works as a pivot on your thumb. The only downside of the blade shape is if you need to use the point its not exactly fine, strong though. Thanks for watching Trev mate.
I yesterday received a Joker Nessmuk Sabergrind with stag handle. Prefer the Sabergrind as I see this knife as a allround and food prep knife. The Nessmuk stag handle is the 1821-2021 anniversary edition. I have several Scandi edge knifes. One thing they have in common is they are lousy for food prep.
Yes scandis are pretty bad for food prep. I have seen pictures of the stag version, it looks absolutely fantastic. I am sure it will serve you well. Thanks for watching mate.
@@KuukkeliBushcraft I got hold of a perfect foodprep light bushcraft knife. It was made by Erik Frost in Mora It has a wooden handle and a 125 mm blade with scandi grind. the blade starts around 3 mm thick at the spine at the handle. It then tapers and gets thinner all the way to the tip. I have no information about this knife. Guess it was made 1950 or 1960. Maybe it was sold as a hunter, fisher and light forest knife. Or it can be a swedish take on the american traditional knifes for the ones going west. It is anyhow a splendid knife for these tasks. The blade is high carbon content so it gets very sharp. I often takes this knife with me in the backpack if I know I am going to do some serious food prep in the forest or fishing. Weighs in with leather sheet and knife 102 gram. A type of knife I don't think you can buy any longer.
@@matsalm2943 it sounds a lot like this th-cam.com/video/NSwtLsDepSQ/w-d-xo.html. There are other discontinued Mora knives that are fairly similar. They made some really nice knives in Mora in the mid 20th century, they still do but I have to admit I have a soft spot for the older ones. Thanks for watching my freind.
I’ve been hankering after a Nessmuk knife for quite a while now, I was put off by the fact a true Nessmuk is for dressing game etc. That Joker seems just the ticket though. I also like a knife that has wood like that, it looks old, sort of antique- similar to the wood on my Hudson Bay knife by Condor.😁. Not sure I would have preferred a carbon steel blade, just to keep its vintage theme, but that 12c stainless is a good steel, takes a lovely edge. Yep, I think that might be my next knife. I’m sort of getting together a collection of the different traditional types of knives, both folding and fixed blades, so it will be a nice addition.😁. Good comparison video by the way!👍
Thank you very much Mat, Condor use the same wood on a lot of their knives and I don't know what it is. It really looks like walnut to me. I bet it's some exotic hardwood but it looks the same as on the Nessmuk. The walnut handle does look very old school. I would definitely choose the Joker over the Brisa. It's a really nice knife to use. Thanks for watching mate.
I've used Brisa Nessmuk about five years, and though I dont use it that much, and wouldnt take it for longer trips, theres a specific situation where I use it a lot: if Im going to a laavu, or just to my garden to do open fire and food prep. Its actually really good combo on wood work (batoning feathersticks etc.) and prepearing food. Its robust enough and slicy. So in those cases its my one knife solution (and I own a lot of knifes). Another one I use for that is my Bark River Wilderness Explorer. But yeah I like that Joker Nessmuk. I love the looks, and appears functional as well! Probably will buy it. Thx for the review! (Oh forgot to mention the sheath on Brisa Nessmuk is really good, still holds the knife secure).
Yes it's really nice for wood prep. I do think I prefer the Joker version though. Both companies make great sheaths. Although I did have to wet form both of them to get a better fit. Thank you for watching my friend and for taking the time to comment.
Nice to see you again... hope all is well in your camp. Good look at the two Nessmuk renditions. I have had the Brisa for a while now. My model has the micarta handle, and interestingly it does have a small lanyard hole. The Brisa (all things considered) is very well put together, with very good materials and workmanship. Simple, attractive and with handy ergos. I find it to be proportionately suitable and well balanced. 80CRV2 is a great, reliable allrounder. In reality... I'm not typically a big fan of what most call a 'Nessmuk' pattern. That said... a choice favorite design is sheepsfoot/modified-sheepsfoot and seax/seax-variations lineage blade shapes. So far I must say the Brisa has yet to get mileage. I have looked at the Joker for some time tho'. I like 14C28N Stainless. Joker looks very tempting; with the exception that I generally prefer a higher grind.
You do tend to get a higher scandi with Finnish knives. I really like both 14c28n and 80CRV2, the best steels I have used I think. Of course there may be better steels out there, expecially on knives that are out of my price range. 80CRV2 in particular is found on some very reasonably priced knives. Both manufacturers make some great knives but I have to say in this case I prefer the Joker. I have never seen a Brisa Nessmuk with micarta scales. I suppose there must be a few versions about. Have you seen the big one? Bigmuck I think they are calling it. Skrama size. Thanks for watching mate.
I've found that if you buy the Brisa nessmuk from the company, as a finished product, you get one with a factory fitted lanyard hole and tube. However, if you buy the "assemble yourself" knife kit you get knife scales that do not have the lanyard hole pre-drilled in the scales, or provide the lanyard tube. A bit of a 'faff' to drill if you only have hand tools, but doable. The blade blank supplied with the kit does have the lanyard hole drilled for you. Hope this information helps.
Incase ya plan on spoon carving in an area Predator happens to be hanging people from trees.... That upside-down knife retention might not be too important
Knives do fall out of sheaths sometimes, running /jumping, stored in rucksacks leaving the sharp edge exposed or even sitting down. Despite this maybe putting the knife in the sheath properly in the first place is more of an issue than actual sheath retention.
I have the sabre grind Joker Nessmuk. Its an amazing deal on a phenomenal knife. My benchmarks are the ESEE 4HM and the Tops Brakimo both of which are tougher knives but less suited to field dressing an animal like the Nessmuk is. IMO the scandi-grind isn't suited to a knife like the Nessmuk. Better to have a dedicated, (sometimes smaller) wood working knife in my pack which is what I run. I did some sanding/shaping to my Nessmuk handle and I would _prefer_ Micarta, always, but otherwise its about as perfect as a wood handle can be.
Nessmuk himself had a folder and a hatchet for woodworking so his (probably flat or sabre grind knife will have been for mostly game prep so it looks like both of you think along the same lines. I really like the scandi grind version but would love to try out the sabre grind version. Thanks for watching mate.
Those are very nice Tim. I am a huge fan of Nessmuck. I've never tried one of the knives but they seem like they would be great. I might pick up one of those Jokers.
The Joker is really good mate. I like the look of the Montañero out of all Joker knives. Being a cheapskate though I tend to look for discounts and haven't found a cheap one😂. The Nessmuk is great too and now there is a sabre grind version too (might be a little more like the original). Thanks for watching Travis.
Awesome! 👍 A good look at two really cool knives. A mate of mine just bought the Enzo. I'm not sure how I like that blade shape. Maybe a tad too curvy for my liking, perhaps? Great video, thanks!
The Enzo is the Brisa, its the same company (something I should have mentioned in the video). I think he blade shape is a little less exadurated in the Joker. I like the Joker more personally. Thanks for watching mate.
Maybe I wasn't the only one to notice the issue🤣. Glad to hear that they put it right. Thank you very much for watching mate. Have a fantastic new year.
Thanks mate it has been really mild until today. - 30 today 🥶. It got to - 37 in my first November here. So it is still fairly mild. Thanks for stopping by.
Nice knives, I was wondering between condor nessmuk and kephart. I have few scandi ground knives, so I've got my self a condor kephart blank and made my own handle out of micarta. Full flat grind is excellent in the kitchen for food prep. You have plenty of snow. In the UK it's rain and wind. It appears it's not that cold on the video, but I'm sure it is😁 Cheers buddy, keep warm 👍
I like the look of the Kepharts. Brisa also making them too. Deffo better to have a full flat grind for food prep and many other things. Scandi grind works great for wood though. Full flat grind far more versatile though. Thanks for watching mate. Raining back home😂 what a surprise.
Thanks for the channel. Your videos teach me stuff and help me unwind at the same time which is a rare combination. Many outdoor channels review expensive knives with high-end steels. Yours seem to be more affordable variants. Is that purely a financial choice or do you find super-expensive steels, unnecessary? Or is it the difference between a survival knife and a bushcraft knife?
Thank you for your kind words,I am so glad that you are enjoying the channel. I honestly believe that there is little you can do with a 300 Euro knife that you can't do with a 12 Euro Mora. I also find that with more expensive knives I feel afraid to use them. Obviously a full exposed tang gives a sense of security that the knife isn't going to break. I think brands like Joker and Brisa give a good product in between the two. Also if the edge retention isn't exactly the best ever, I don't mind as I quite enjoy sharpening my knives. Obviously I don't want to sharpen my knife every time I use it. Also I don't particular want to pay a huge amount of money and I don't see the point either.
@@KuukkeliBushcraft I think you’re right in terms of what affordable knives do in 95% of situations for 95% of owners. I still want a fancy knife at some point but that’s just lust talking.
No mate, the flag is from Sem one of our ex husky guides. We have quite an international community here at the husky farm. My roots are very English and mostly northern, got coal in my blood😂. Thanks for watching mate.
This should answer your question th-cam.com/users/shortstUFywrwUpds?feature=share It's really good, flame retardent and warm. Very inexpensive too. Thanks for stopping by mate.
Are you trying to start a war? Hang on did you actually see a Frisian flag on the video? I thought you were talking about the Finnish flag (also blue and white). Just noticed there is actually a Frisian flag on the wall here. Anyway thanks for watching mate. Hope you have a fabulous year ahead.
You're right they are butcher knives and not much good at anything else. I have the Joker and a Nieto (both Spanish made and stainless) in my collection but never use them.
I find the Joker good for lots of things but each to his own. I guess they would be better as butchers knives if they were thinner or had a full flat grind. I am sure using the Nessmuk blade shape is mostly about marketing, selling knives to people who don't really know what Nessmuk used his knives for.
@@KuukkeliBushcraft For sure it's all marketing. I very much doubt that Nessmuk had a scandi grind knife. Neither did Kephart or Jim Bowie. But the USA is good at marketing. Taking European design and making it into something American.
Therrs no question about it. Stainless is junk. Lion steel is the only Stainless even worth having. The high carbon can literally cleave the Stainless junk in half. And everyone who knows anything about knives know this !!!
I really like that Joker. Thanks for sharing.
Me too, one of my favorites.
Thanks for stopping by mate.
Unfortunately, I had to send back the Brisa Nessmuk for the handle was too small for my XL hand. Thanks for your purist content !
I am not surprised, the handle is rather tiny. You would have no such problems with the Joker. The handle of that one is quite large.
Thanks for watching mate, glad you are enjoying the content.
Thanks for the comparison! I've been looking at the saber version of the Joker knife but already own a scandi Brisa Nessmuk.
I built my Brisa Nessmuk from a kit. It has micarta scales that I processed to have a rather rough finish, so it fits in the sheath very snug.
Overall the sheath is what I like best about the knife! I bought 3 left-handed ones and use them with other knives that were delivered with right handed sheaths.
It is a nice sheath, I also have a second Brisa Nessmuk sheath that I picked up cheap, funnily enough the Joker Nessmuk fits perfectly into it. I think I have my NKD Korpi in there right now. The sabre grind would be really nice to try. They have been making some with antler handles. They look spectacular.
Thanks for watching buddy.
Great looking knives and an awesome knife comparison between the two different styles. 👍
Thank you Arielle, both pretty good knives. I particularly like the Joker.
Thanks for stopping by.
They both look like good knives, I am sure I would be happy with either one.
They are good knives, I am sure you would. Thank you very much for stopping by.
I have also wondered about the sense in making a shape like this with a scandi grind when they look like a butchers knife which is probably what the originals started out as. Interesting to see the comparison Tim. Looks cold over there!
The shape is definitely intended for processing meat. Works great for wood though. The hump also works as a pivot on your thumb. The only downside of the blade shape is if you need to use the point its not exactly fine, strong though.
Thanks for watching Trev mate.
I yesterday received a Joker Nessmuk Sabergrind with stag handle. Prefer the Sabergrind as I see this knife as a allround and food prep knife. The Nessmuk stag handle is the 1821-2021 anniversary edition. I have several Scandi edge knifes. One thing they have in common is they are lousy for food prep.
Yes scandis are pretty bad for food prep. I have seen pictures of the stag version, it looks absolutely fantastic. I am sure it will serve you well.
Thanks for watching mate.
@@KuukkeliBushcraft I got hold of a perfect foodprep light bushcraft knife. It was made by Erik Frost in Mora It has a wooden handle and a 125 mm blade with scandi grind. the blade starts around 3 mm thick at the spine at the handle. It then tapers and gets thinner all the way to the tip. I have no information about this knife. Guess it was made 1950 or 1960. Maybe it was sold as a hunter, fisher and light forest knife. Or it can be a swedish take on the american traditional knifes for the ones going west. It is anyhow a splendid knife for these tasks. The blade is high carbon content so it gets very sharp. I often takes this knife with me in the backpack if I know I am going to do some serious food prep in the forest or fishing. Weighs in with leather sheet and knife 102 gram. A type of knife I don't think you can buy any longer.
@@matsalm2943 it sounds a lot like this th-cam.com/video/NSwtLsDepSQ/w-d-xo.html.
There are other discontinued Mora knives that are fairly similar. They made some really nice knives in Mora in the mid 20th century, they still do but I have to admit I have a soft spot for the older ones.
Thanks for watching my freind.
Good looking knives Tim , thanks for sharing , God bless brother !
Thanks for watching Michael.
God bless.
I’ve been hankering after a Nessmuk knife for quite a while now, I was put off by the fact a true Nessmuk is for dressing game etc. That Joker seems just the ticket though. I also like a knife that has wood like that, it looks old, sort of antique- similar to the wood on my Hudson Bay knife by Condor.😁. Not sure I would have preferred a carbon steel blade, just to keep its vintage theme, but that 12c stainless is a good steel, takes a lovely edge. Yep, I think that might be my next knife. I’m sort of getting together a collection of the different traditional types of knives, both folding and fixed blades, so it will be a nice addition.😁. Good comparison video by the way!👍
Thank you very much Mat, Condor use the same wood on a lot of their knives and I don't know what it is. It really looks like walnut to me. I bet it's some exotic hardwood but it looks the same as on the Nessmuk. The walnut handle does look very old school. I would definitely choose the Joker over the Brisa. It's a really nice knife to use.
Thanks for watching mate.
I've used Brisa Nessmuk about five years, and though I dont use it that much, and wouldnt take it for longer trips, theres a specific situation where I use it a lot: if Im going to a laavu, or just to my garden to do open fire and food prep. Its actually really good combo on wood work (batoning feathersticks etc.) and prepearing food. Its robust enough and slicy. So in those cases its my one knife solution (and I own a lot of knifes). Another one I use for that is my Bark River Wilderness Explorer. But yeah I like that Joker Nessmuk. I love the looks, and appears functional as well! Probably will buy it. Thx for the review!
(Oh forgot to mention the sheath on Brisa Nessmuk is really good, still holds the knife secure).
Yes it's really nice for wood prep. I do think I prefer the Joker version though. Both companies make great sheaths. Although I did have to wet form both of them to get a better fit.
Thank you for watching my friend and for taking the time to comment.
@@KuukkeliBushcraft ok you sold me, will buy the Joker Nessmuk also:) Just need a good explanation for my wife why I should buy yet another knife😂
@@ulpukka5949 😂
I’ve seen the Joker Nessmuk with a higher Scandi grind. What’s your opinion on grinds please ? Greetings from Lancashire.
Nice video Tim.😝🤘 i think i would prefer the joker out of them 2 knives.🔪🔪🔪😁👊👍
I like the Joker more to be honest.
Thanks for stopping by Jas.
Nice to see you again... hope all is well in your camp. Good look at the two Nessmuk renditions. I have had the Brisa for a while now. My model has the micarta handle, and interestingly it does have a small lanyard hole. The Brisa (all things considered) is very well put together, with very good materials and workmanship. Simple, attractive and with handy ergos. I find it to be proportionately suitable and well balanced. 80CRV2 is a great, reliable allrounder. In reality... I'm not typically a big fan of what most call a 'Nessmuk' pattern. That said... a choice favorite design is sheepsfoot/modified-sheepsfoot and seax/seax-variations lineage blade shapes. So far I must say the Brisa has yet to get mileage. I have looked at the Joker for some time tho'. I like 14C28N Stainless. Joker looks very tempting; with the exception that I generally prefer a higher grind.
You do tend to get a higher scandi with Finnish knives. I really like both 14c28n and 80CRV2, the best steels I have used I think. Of course there may be better steels out there, expecially on knives that are out of my price range. 80CRV2 in particular is found on some very reasonably priced knives.
Both manufacturers make some great knives but I have to say in this case I prefer the Joker.
I have never seen a Brisa Nessmuk with micarta scales. I suppose there must be a few versions about.
Have you seen the big one? Bigmuck I think they are calling it.
Skrama size.
Thanks for watching mate.
I've found that if you buy the Brisa nessmuk from the company, as a finished product, you get one with a factory fitted lanyard hole and tube. However, if you buy the "assemble yourself" knife kit you get knife scales that do not have the lanyard hole pre-drilled in the scales, or provide the lanyard tube. A bit of a 'faff' to drill if you only have hand tools, but doable. The blade blank supplied with the kit does have the lanyard hole drilled for you. Hope this information helps.
@@clivedunning4317 interesting info Clive. Thank you.
Incase ya plan on spoon carving in an area Predator happens to be hanging people from trees....
That upside-down knife retention might not be too important
Knives do fall out of sheaths sometimes, running /jumping, stored in rucksacks leaving the sharp edge exposed or even sitting down. Despite this maybe putting the knife in the sheath properly in the first place is more of an issue than actual sheath retention.
I have the sabre grind Joker Nessmuk. Its an amazing deal on a phenomenal knife. My benchmarks are the ESEE 4HM and the Tops Brakimo both of which are tougher knives but less suited to field dressing an animal like the Nessmuk is. IMO the scandi-grind isn't suited to a knife like the Nessmuk. Better to have a dedicated, (sometimes smaller) wood working knife in my pack which is what I run. I did some sanding/shaping to my Nessmuk handle and I would _prefer_ Micarta, always, but otherwise its about as perfect as a wood handle can be.
Nessmuk himself had a folder and a hatchet for woodworking so his (probably flat or sabre grind knife will have been for mostly game prep so it looks like both of you think along the same lines.
I really like the scandi grind version but would love to try out the sabre grind version.
Thanks for watching mate.
Those are very nice Tim. I am a huge fan of Nessmuck. I've never tried one of the knives but they seem like they would be great. I might pick up one of those Jokers.
The Joker is really good mate. I like the look of the Montañero out of all Joker knives. Being a cheapskate though I tend to look for discounts and haven't found a cheap one😂.
The Nessmuk is great too and now there is a sabre grind version too (might be a little more like the original).
Thanks for watching Travis.
@@KuukkeliBushcraft LOL a brother from another mother!!! all my gear comes from the discount or discontinued pages.
I like both of those fixed blades Tim. The snow there looks great in the afternoon!
Thanks Mark, the snow gives the knives quite a nice backdrop. Not great with the camera batteries.
Both good knives.
Thanks for watching buddy.
@@KuukkeliBushcraft Thanks Tim! Looking good!
Awesome! 👍 A good look at two really cool knives. A mate of mine just bought the Enzo. I'm not sure how I like that blade shape. Maybe a tad too curvy for my liking, perhaps? Great video, thanks!
The Enzo is the Brisa, its the same company (something I should have mentioned in the video). I think he blade shape is a little less exadurated in the Joker. I like the Joker more personally.
Thanks for watching mate.
Joker must of heard you with the sheath and retention. Mine is really tight actually difficult to pull the knife out of. Cheers
Maybe I wasn't the only one to notice the issue🤣. Glad to hear that they put it right.
Thank you very much for watching mate.
Have a fantastic new year.
Hi buddy, good video, very nice sunset, very nice dog. How is the temperature now in the Arctic?
Thanks mate it has been really mild until today. - 30 today 🥶. It got to - 37 in my first November here. So it is still fairly mild.
Thanks for stopping by.
Nice knives, I was wondering between condor nessmuk and kephart. I have few scandi ground knives, so I've got my self a condor kephart blank and made my own handle out of micarta. Full flat grind is excellent in the kitchen for food prep. You have plenty of snow. In the UK it's rain and wind. It appears it's not that cold on the video, but I'm sure it is😁 Cheers buddy, keep warm 👍
I like the look of the Kepharts. Brisa also making them too. Deffo better to have a full flat grind for food prep and many other things. Scandi grind works great for wood though. Full flat grind far more versatile though.
Thanks for watching mate.
Raining back home😂 what a surprise.
Thanks for the channel. Your videos teach me stuff and help me unwind at the same time which is a rare combination. Many outdoor channels review expensive knives with high-end steels. Yours seem to be more affordable variants. Is that purely a financial choice or do you find super-expensive steels, unnecessary? Or is it the difference between a survival knife and a bushcraft knife?
Thank you for your kind words,I am so glad that you are enjoying the channel. I honestly believe that there is little you can do with a 300 Euro knife that you can't do with a 12 Euro Mora. I also find that with more expensive knives I feel afraid to use them. Obviously a full exposed tang gives a sense of security that the knife isn't going to break. I think brands like Joker and Brisa give a good product in between the two. Also if the edge retention isn't exactly the best ever, I don't mind as I quite enjoy sharpening my knives. Obviously I don't want to sharpen my knife every time I use it. Also I don't particular want to pay a huge amount of money and I don't see the point either.
@@KuukkeliBushcraft I think you’re right in terms of what affordable knives do in 95% of situations for 95% of owners. I still want a fancy knife at some point but that’s just lust talking.
Nice flag in the background, do you have Frisian roots?
No mate, the flag is from Sem one of our ex husky guides. We have quite an international community here at the husky farm. My roots are very English and mostly northern, got coal in my blood😂.
Thanks for watching mate.
@@KuukkeliBushcraft You didn’t sound Dutch or Frisian that’s why I was curious, just ordered the Joker Nessmuk. Thanks for the video.
What am I going to do? I have to opt for the Joker who is from the home Tim! But the Brisa is also very pretty!
A Galician hug my friend!
I prefer the Joker too. Both companies make some great knives.
🇪🇸👍👍
Un abrazo amigo.
Hi Tim. Just wondering what that coat is. I love the length and thickness of it. Thank you.
This should answer your question
th-cam.com/users/shortstUFywrwUpds?feature=share
It's really good, flame retardent and warm. Very inexpensive too.
Thanks for stopping by mate.
Cool frisian flag!! 😜
Are you trying to start a war? Hang on did you actually see a Frisian flag on the video? I thought you were talking about the Finnish flag (also blue and white). Just noticed there is actually a Frisian flag on the wall here.
Anyway thanks for watching mate. Hope you have a fabulous year ahead.
I have a joker in the mail now 😅
Awesome, I am sure you will like it. I am really impressed with their stuff. Thanks for watching the video.
@@KuukkeliBushcraft thanks, I will. SUB!
You're right they are butcher knives and not much good at anything else. I have the Joker and a Nieto (both Spanish made and stainless) in my collection but never use them.
I find the Joker good for lots of things but each to his own. I guess they would be better as butchers knives if they were thinner or had a full flat grind. I am sure using the Nessmuk blade shape is mostly about marketing, selling knives to people who don't really know what Nessmuk used his knives for.
@@KuukkeliBushcraft For sure it's all marketing. I very much doubt that Nessmuk had a scandi grind knife. Neither did Kephart or Jim Bowie. But the USA is good at marketing. Taking European design and making it into something American.
Therrs no question about it. Stainless is junk. Lion steel is the only Stainless even worth having. The high carbon can literally cleave the Stainless junk in half. And everyone who knows anything about knives know this !!!