CHASE DEFENSE: Prevent Most 3 Pointers And All Pick And Rolls!

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  • Welcome to The Chase Defense, a new concept Coach Nick has developed to combat the rising offensive numbers we continue to see year over year. Let's face it - traditional defense by step sliding and choppy step close outs become more obsolete with each passing season. Eliminate all the frustration you have as a coach when your players get beat on close outs. Coach Nick sat down to devise something radical in an effort to be more effective against the two major modes of attack: the 3 point shot and the pick and roll. If you're a coach who wants to install this defense, Coach Nick will come and help. Email him here: coachnick@bballbreakdown.com
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  • @kaya2357
    @kaya2357 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +507

    Coach Nick is gonna get players to start shooting that running one-legged three to counter this.

    • @adora2423
      @adora2423 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      Lol imagine he creates a new radical defense then creates a new radical offense to counter his own defense

    • @talentkid234
      @talentkid234 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I remember everyone freaking out seeing Harden practicing those shots and he never even implemented them in his offense

    • @DickiMoltisanti
      @DickiMoltisanti 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Luka hit one vs the clippers in the playoffs

    • @reubengermain9771
      @reubengermain9771 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@adora2423 It's an arms race!

    • @miggyalejandro
      @miggyalejandro 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If that's what it takes to beat the defense, then why not? Innovation is important.

  • @princemjbp695
    @princemjbp695 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +165

    This is somewhat similar to Mattise Thybulle's defense. He goes to the side of his man rather than in front of him.

    • @Navvye
      @Navvye 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      thats exactly what I was thinking!

    • @enterpassword3313
      @enterpassword3313 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Lol coach did a vid on him, now hes trying to pretend he invented it smh

    • @captainobvious90
      @captainobvious90 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      @@enterpassword3313 dude literally started by saying he is taking from multiple sources, of course he is not serious on that statement

    • @enterpassword3313
      @enterpassword3313 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@captainobvious90 i invented this new drink, i call it lemonade

    • @LuDux
      @LuDux 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@enterpassword3313 Lemonade was popular drink and it still is (I got more props and stunts than Kariniauskas)

  • @deiondre0
    @deiondre0 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +356

    This is actually interesting but I feel like it would be easily exploited by point guards with a short-to-mid range floater (Shai, Trae, Ja, Fox, etc)
    Edit: Then again, Trae is the only one among them who is an elite shooter so you probably wouldnt run this defense against the others

    • @bballbreakdown
      @bballbreakdown  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +288

      THat is the whole point! Let the team take as many midrange jumpers and floaters as they like with a hand up in their face

    • @reubengermain9771
      @reubengermain9771 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      It's on the side of analytics . Give up higher shot expected value for lower. Like from 1.1-1.3 down to 0.6 -0.8 Not to be used against the KDs or DeRozans however.

    • @sheed321
      @sheed321 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      The point is the eliminate PnR and 3s

    • @iri101
      @iri101 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      trae young played against the heat zone in 22'. He got massacred because he couldn't do anything.

    • @d3olinsky
      @d3olinsky 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      poor shooting PGs also have picks set for them. this scheme eliminates that option regardless on shooting skills.

  • @pipohemm8726
    @pipohemm8726 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

    Yeah, the first thing I immediately thought about was the Jazz 2019 vs Harden. This actually kind of worked back then. Took away the step back and good luck taking a floater with 7'2 Gobert right in front of you and your defender breathing down your neck. You obviously cant run this all game but similar to how the heat implement a zone from time to time so could this tactic be used to throw teams off

    • @TheNamesDitto
      @TheNamesDitto 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      And honestly, floaters are more inefficient than actual middies so you win the possession if they shoot floaters

    • @Fidel_cashflo
      @Fidel_cashflo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And then they did it against the Clippers and had the greatest choke job of all time

    • @pipohemm8726
      @pipohemm8726 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Fidel_cashflo when did the Jazz do this against the Clippers? You dont need to guard the clippers this way, they arent heavy on pnr, they dont have a Harden or Luka. George and Leonard should rather be guarded as the Heat did to Brown and Tatum

    • @Fidel_cashflo
      @Fidel_cashflo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@pipohemm8726 I’m talking about the 2021 series where they blew a 30 pt lead in game 6. Jazz were way over reliant on funneling things to Rudy and offering zero resistance at point of attack. Putting 5 shooters/dribblers on the court made the whole thing collapse

    • @thesonofwill22
      @thesonofwill22 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah credit to the rockets who mostly beat it by tossing lobs to a waiting Clint capela on the weak side as gobert helped onto harden, not by harden scoring 50 night. So unless the team you are playing has an elite passer and dunker you’d be pretty much stuck taking tough shots.

  • @reubengermain9771
    @reubengermain9771 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +123

    Respect Coach Nick, this is wild, I have to digest this. The visibility up top, what can I say, I love this!

    • @bballbreakdown
      @bballbreakdown  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      I know right! the top guard gets to see everything

    • @Time_Lapse_Master.
      @Time_Lapse_Master. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bballbreakdownJust wondering, what's stopping a big to set a screen near the FT line for a cutter and an easy Alley-Oop pass for the PG who has every delivery angle possible?

    • @Time_Lapse_Master.
      @Time_Lapse_Master. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@bballbreakdownIn the frame 1:18, couldn't player 2 pass it to player 1 who just drives in while player 5 sets a screen for player 2 towards the corner for an open 3, and basically do this every time there's a 1v2 near a corner where one sets a screen for a shooter resulting in a 40% short corner 3?

    • @thecanmanification
      @thecanmanification 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you’re a young player you should learn to read games from the sideline, so when you get subbed in you know what’s going on lol

  • @kashkabandian6254
    @kashkabandian6254 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +151

    I'd love to see the whole video of the game where they tried this defense. Looks interesting

    • @bballbreakdown
      @bballbreakdown  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

      He ran it on 5 possessions - no points. I'm doing my best to get him to integrate it further for the upcoming season...

    • @talentkid234
      @talentkid234 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@bballbreakdownYou should be coaching! What the heck?!?!

    • @harryli5979
      @harryli5979 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I could see the raptors running this if nick nurse was still the coach

    • @kashkabandian6254
      @kashkabandian6254 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@bballbreakdown why did they stop after 5 possessions?! it would be so cool to see the other team look so confident at first thinking they had one man beat only to end up confused as to why they always "beat" the on ball defender but can't score lol

    • @dfjr1990
      @dfjr1990 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The problem is these players are not NBA level at all

  • @michaelgill6076
    @michaelgill6076 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic. Been experimenting with concepts like this for 25 years now. Evolution to be behind, with wings backs to sideline is a cheat code.

  • @joshurl5651
    @joshurl5651 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really appreciate the creative problem solving approach here. I look forward to seeing more tape on this defense and how it holds up.

  • @gerarda8926
    @gerarda8926 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Reminds me of the Raptors’ defensive scheme the past few years. Nurse had them chasing guys off the line and playing defense from behind. However, it did lead to a lot of overhelping - ironically leading to a lot of wide open threes. Cardio was also a big issue, I can see that also being an issue with this scheme you showed. The innovation is great though!

    • @QGfk1
      @QGfk1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      yeah, the vast majority of good 3s are not off the dribble so you're just inviting paint penetration to collapse the defense and lead to a wide open shot or a dunk. apart from the pull up 3, which very few guys are actually efficient at shooting off a ball screen, you're just giving them the advantage of getting a step ahead of your man that the pnr is designed to do. a few people brought up thybulle and even with his 1 in a billion freak hands and athleticism his poking from behind style causes a lot of breakdowns

  • @acepiston5552
    @acepiston5552 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    This is pretty brilliant and innovative. I love how unorthodox it is. Players get so used to seeing patterns that they know how to exploit them, especially with how skilled they are these days. I’ve never even seen a defense this extreme (other than Grinnel College). Unfortunately, lots of coaches are so set in their ways that they might be a bit closed minded to it.

  • @bruh8285
    @bruh8285 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    coach, the legendary obradovic has 'the next man' defensive strategy that might be similar to this, it's also based on constant switches on the perimeter, forcing players to go one way on closeouts, would rhighly recommend checking it out. He did it with Fenerbahce in 2018 very well.

    • @fathersdayclub
      @fathersdayclub 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I use the next scheme because it doesn't give up the straight line drive option and send ball to the side of the floor where we can scramble and contain it better.

  • @rafaawa
    @rafaawa 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I instantly thought about Manu’s block to Harden from behind! Great idea to try coach.

    • @crassbusinessman3122
      @crassbusinessman3122 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm always thinking about Manu's block on Harden. It's like one of my favorite moments in sports history XD

  • @oxfordbambooshootify
    @oxfordbambooshootify 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    What's stopping an elite shooter from just stopping on a dime and rising up for the shot to bait fouls from the defender that's chasing him?

    • @JohnTonyan
      @JohnTonyan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Nothing, you’ve already won as a coach if you’ve prompted the other team to start hunting fouls by taking wildly unhinged long 2s

    • @oxfordbambooshootify
      @oxfordbambooshootify 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@JohnTonyan 3s not 2s. Imagine Trae young or steph curry playing against this type of defense. They'd be scoring 20 points a night off of free throws alone

    • @arcticbulktoaster348
      @arcticbulktoaster348 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@oxfordbambooshootify if your x1 keeps getting baited for this he shouldn't be your x1. i'll take a disturbed from behind hunting for a foul 3 from any star any day. their usual shots are already hard to stop.

    • @oxfordbambooshootify
      @oxfordbambooshootify 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@arcticbulktoaster348 that makes no sense. On a high school or collegiate level this scheme may be effective but I don't see it being as productive at the NBA level. You're just going to end up with your players in constant foul trouble and putting the opponents in the bonus and giving the opponents best shooters tons of free throws per game

    • @Fidel_cashflo
      @Fidel_cashflo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah this idea is pretty dumb and unoriginal. It’s what the Jazz did for years, so many ways to exploit

  • @ryantristani5091
    @ryantristani5091 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A couple offensive counter ideas.
    1. You just set up a give and go play for whoever started the play as the PNR ball-handler, it’ll be easier to cut since their defender is already behind them.
    2. A mid-range shot drifting left or right, like towards the wings (like the shots you see from Chris Paul a lot). This would put the defender at your side, giving you an open look.
    3. Might be hard to pull off, but find a way to quickly get back behind the defender. A side-step into a step-back or something similar may work. If you could manage to do this, it would be an open look every time as there is no way a defender would be able to turn their hips a full 180 degrees in time to get a good hand up.
    4. A backwards PNR. Have a screen set on the defender and instead of the ball-handler working their way forward around the screen, have them go backwards. This one would be difficult to coordinate and it would also be difficult to set-up the screen in a way where the defender wouldn’t notice it.

    • @bballbreakdown
      @bballbreakdown  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Number 4 is hilarious and I’m not sure what the strategic value is. Number 2 is the exact goal of this defense

    • @aaronwin33
      @aaronwin33 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bballbreakdownor even easier, instead of shooting a side step mid range jumper just shoot a side step 3 pointer away from the defender. Like the ones harden/luka/curry always take, except instead of stepping back just gather step then hop to the side

  • @banbiossa
    @banbiossa 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love the closeout with the chase defense. It looks much more natural and disruptive.

  • @TheCaptainBlast
    @TheCaptainBlast 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’ve been thinking a point zone defense is the next evolution of defense, but the chasing is a whole new level.

  • @splashgod2509
    @splashgod2509 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    We saw the Lakers do this to the Warriors when they top locked shooters and funneled Steph/Klay/Poole into Anthony Davis.

    • @YunisRajab
      @YunisRajab 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yep most I've seen the splash brothers effectively slowed down

    • @matty7106
      @matty7106 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I was thinking the same thing. So Kerr now has film of this and hopefully (as a Dubs fan) is coming up with better counters. But I thought this defense was brilliant at the time and would love to see more teams run it. Basketball is getting a little repetitive nowadays.

    • @travisjohnson6703
      @travisjohnson6703 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I'm not really afraid of this, but for other teams they don't have an AD caliber defender to lock the paint the same. Although using that chase defense would remove the methods Kerr used to pull AD out given off ball screens and on ball screens wouldn't do the job anymore.

    • @starkk19
      @starkk19 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@travisjohnson6703 I thinked it worked really well because it was AD that was in the paint. He can affect any shot inside the paint, but also still agile enough to actually switch on to Curry in the perimeter as a failsafe. Even Gobert, I think would not have done so well.

  • @jovar7545
    @jovar7545 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is crazy. Thanks for the innovation!

  • @Duly_bomaye
    @Duly_bomaye 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting. Definitely a scheme towards a team with that specific strength which is a lot of teams now. I could definitely see this creating big stops/momentum swings if used strategically.

  • @monieschonies3367
    @monieschonies3367 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Hi, Coach. Quick question. So if in a traditional pick and roll, some coaches have stated as a ball handler, take the screen and put the defender "in your back pocket" as you run through the motion. From there, you attack the basket with your roll man, the option being yours to pass or keep. With this defense, wouldn't this be even easier to accomplish as you're removing the screen mechanic? I assume regardless if whether the defender is in front or behind the ball, the screener can still approach the ball then roll towards the basket with the handler attacking (since his man is behind him) and execute the same way? Or is this more geared to driving great 3 point shooters off the line because I can definitely see that.

    • @talentkid234
      @talentkid234 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That would only work well man to man. That’s why he is also implementing zone defense so every defender has a position they stay at.

  • @willhooke
    @willhooke 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    I remember Kobe saying to guard Steph from the side
    And Steph struggled
    Very interesting progression Coach Nick 👏🏻

  • @rodojeda96
    @rodojeda96 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'll tell you exactly to beat this: you get the pass, let the defending player settle behind you, but you don't rush into a drive, leading to a long 2 or an uncontrolled drive into the paint defender with the worry of the not visible player behind you... instead you feel where the defender is, move to cut them off from the basket as much as possible (this is called putting them "in jail"). Then you choose when you attack. You can take a big step up to the three point like and shot the 3 right away... you can be more measured and head to the paint to pull a second defender and kick out, or you can just see a lane (say you have some kind of speed or size advantage) and really attack fast, trying to beat the second defender/ get to the rack before the defender behind you can catch up to cause trouble. The key to this is that instead of being rushed, and then having your options limited/ getting exposed to turnovers because you don't know how close the "wolf" behind you is, you take a second to feel him out, push him back a bit, maybe pick a side if he's playing you more to one side, and then you strike. That way you automatically get a step or two in front of him, and thats all you need. At that point attacking this defense isn't much different than attacking a traditional D after you have beaten your perimeter defender pretty badly. QED.
    To be fair though, the principles of this are so interesting, you could use them opportunistically at times, and even implement it as a kind of gimmick scheme to surprise teams or deal with particular players. It's still mind-blowing. Thank you Coach Nick, I would give you buckets though.

  • @dacowthebol9325
    @dacowthebol9325 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I did this in high school and always knew it was better, but my coach and peers saw it as a lazy defense. They believed taking pride in guarding your man one-on-one, no matter the outcome, was more important than winning with a new strategy like the one you experiment and implement.
    Great job coach! Very innovative!

  • @phil9461
    @phil9461 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Coach Nick - Always love the videos! Learning the Xs and Os in 🏀 and sports in general is always dope. With that said…the first thing that came to my mind was if I were the opposing coach on offense, how would I counter this? Ideally you could still dare the defense with a screen on that trailing defender who’s chasing from behind. In that window..the guard/ball handler would raise up for a mid range or 3. And if any of the help defenders bite, the play becomes a simple kick to the wings or baseline cut to the basket.

  • @candorsspot2775
    @candorsspot2775 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    NBA coaches watch this channel. Fully expect to see this implented next season! Love your channel coach Nick!

  • @TheMacThat
    @TheMacThat 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Five defenders looking at the ball and using the sidelines as extra defenders opens up the fluidity of the defense. Would love to see what coach Spo thinks of this, lol.

  • @AndreZamudio
    @AndreZamudio 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love this new concept, definitely gonna start implementing it with my team 👍

  • @talentkid234
    @talentkid234 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember Ricky Rubio doing this to Harden during that stint when he was averaging 40+ points on the rockets

  • @gritbasketball9667
    @gritbasketball9667 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love it!! Very Tough and innovative. Great stuff Coach Nick!

  • @alm5851
    @alm5851 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    very cool! would love to see more of it.

  • @jesser6423
    @jesser6423 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there any follow up to this? Would love to see how it has been implemented. Love radical ideas!

  • @iri101
    @iri101 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    From watching your video, It seems like the heat zone has a lot of principals that your defense purposes.
    I would love a revisit of the most recent nba finals to see what joker/Murray pick and roll did against it.

    • @fullcourtball
      @fullcourtball 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It would be interesting to see...though that duo is probably one of the most difficult pick and roll/pop duo to defend ever, if not the best. Don't think this defense really applies in that specific situation...those two have too many offensive options in their arsenal :)

    • @lancemacmillan
      @lancemacmillan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, I was going to say this would have to be personnel specific...but any defense would be anyway. To sit behind Jokic and deny him the three and 'force' him to pass to a cutter or rumble to the basket for a floater...(shudders 😮) ...Miami is going to have PTSD about that for years!

  • @afrohawk
    @afrohawk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So, basically create a 5 v 4 in the halfcourt and chase from behind. That's cool. Definitely need a good rim protector and good rotation off ball to on ball on passes. Totally agree with chopping feet to closeouts. I think that's completely wrong and should not be coached. I always liked stabbing one foot or the other on closeout and effectively declaring a side, even the power hand side. The most important thing about defense is to eliminate options by forcing a choice on the offensive player instantly so that you don't have to guess about what's coming next. I never minded trailing the offensive player a half step because he still has to gather the ball before shooting and that half step can be made up then. Nice video and definitely an interesting concept.

  • @nickyfresh12
    @nickyfresh12 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the bravery to implement something like this. I've enjoyed your videos ever since I realized I shot the ball better with a turn instead of square.

  • @stephencheney9811
    @stephencheney9811 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As chaotic as it looks, it would make college games more fun to watch. They just pass it around the 3 point line for 20 seconds of the possession.

  • @AKSourGod
    @AKSourGod 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great damn Job and GOOD LUCK COACH!

  • @peteryu9866
    @peteryu9866 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Scottie talked about this when he spoke on how to guard Harden.. Years ago.. Trailing behind the offensive player to deny the shot and force movement..

  • @mofohole
    @mofohole 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Coach Nick your bball knowledge and passion is amazing I am wondering if you got approached for any pro league or NCAA opportunities? Would that be something you aim to get into?

  • @grapplerke
    @grapplerke 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I feel this gives up 3pt shooting to knockdown shooters who are role players and strong finishers in the dunker spots. I think this is definitely worth doing at the high school level and even college.

    • @bsn0730
      @bsn0730 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah watching some of those plays, it looks like if you have a guy with a quick trigger in the right spot (alley oop finisher, corner marksman) and even just a decent passer, you could get some really high quality shots. I bet it'd be a great disruptive call for defense though if you switched to it suddenly a few times a game like how the heat would break out their zone coverage in spots over the last few seasons

    • @grapplerke
      @grapplerke 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bsn0730 Yeah I can’t imagine playing like this for the majority of the game against good teams with good ball handlers, shooters and passers. Definitely a good disruptor at any level without a doubt though.

  • @eduardobranco8349
    @eduardobranco8349 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What happens on a mid court pick and roll, either by the guard backing out to the mid court or as early offense? the likes of how the clippers ran for cp3? do you still try guarding from the side to avoid the pick? wouldnt that give too much space for a quick guard to explode against a sagging big? I would think you have to play it straight up, and either go under or over depending on matchups

  • @andrewdorie4010
    @andrewdorie4010 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Coach, would love to see you breakdown Paul Westhead’s coaching with the Lakers vs Riley’s coaching? Maybe even compare the way he used the system with the Lakers vs his other coaching jobs.

  • @maartenvz
    @maartenvz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing combination of proven ideas. At first i was sceptical: Houston smoked the jazz in that series. Then i checked the stats: both harden and Paul had a lot turnovers. But the jazz shot 26% from three while Mitchell was 32% overall, no wonder they lost badly.
    My initial idea to counter this is to have a shooter relocate behind the ballhandler, this would create a 4 on 3 for the ballhandler. However the trail defender on ball could close out to the shooter. Man this is interesting!

  • @crassbusinessman3122
    @crassbusinessman3122 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Coach, I absolutely LOVE thinking outside the box with concepts like this. Craftiness is a skill that us shorter, less athletic players need to bridge the gap. But my question is, couldn't a player who is substantially longer/faster blast right by, leaving the defender out it no man's land?

  • @david_lam1666
    @david_lam1666 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    wouldn't the chase on the wings provide the guards easy middle-penetration?

  • @FunkyJ_13
    @FunkyJ_13 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please show us more of this!!!

  • @wayneerichsen
    @wayneerichsen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, just wow. We will Def see this in the near future, I just hope that you get some credit.

  • @edvincentiiialbano8890
    @edvincentiiialbano8890 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Coach, I hope we could see a video of modern pnr offenses trying to score on this defense instead of just a probing offense.

  • @YvngGoat_
    @YvngGoat_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I actually really like this defensive concept

  • @gamingcentral1252
    @gamingcentral1252 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m going into my senior year and we ran a very similar version of this, with the main point forcing the offense left. In theory this works, but we were not good enough at it, not smart enough/to dumb to understand the principles. We got burned whenever we used it.However I could see this working well with a smart team that is athletic.

  • @Scoots1994
    @Scoots1994 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I saw this in spots over the last few years being used here or there. One advantage of the closeout to get behind a player it means body momentum is away from the offensive player and may cut down on this ticky tack fouls on closeouts. When the refs know the scheme is to go by the offensive player then the offensive player moving in front of the moving defender is more likely to be a non-call.

  • @emmanuelvolquez2975
    @emmanuelvolquez2975 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Using this combined with other zone concepts that allow the players to transition from different defensive sets it’s actually top notch.
    But if used repeatedly, as most sets in basketball, it’s exploitable

    • @chanachon56
      @chanachon56 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yeah this is basically a more aggressive version of a 1-3-1 zone. Used to run it with my summer team before the pandemic hit and we got mauled with off ball screens and back cuts. In my experience it works best in short spurts of a game to disrupt an opposing team's scoring run, but if you use it as your main defense, smart players will be able to counter it.

    • @Fidel_cashflo
      @Fidel_cashflo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes look at what the Clippers were able to do to the Jazz with 5 out. Drive, kick, and get a full head of steam at the rim protector

  • @JC-ch7lr
    @JC-ch7lr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    We ran this in highschool as a matchup zone only difference we overplayed to keep the ball out of the middle and to one side of the court....teams were confused and we knew we had them when they tried to run their man to man offense vs this zone.

    • @bballbreakdown
      @bballbreakdown  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Love it.. any video footage??

    • @AiirxGeordan
      @AiirxGeordan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@bballbreakdownsouthern Miss Men’s basketball runs a matchup zone not too different from what he’s describing other than the keep it from the middle.

  • @ballsoharduni
    @ballsoharduni 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn Coach! 😂 You’ve done it!

  • @flipsolo
    @flipsolo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A clickbait that actually blew my mind away. Definitely changed my perspective! I love this game is always evolving.

  • @hezcobar
    @hezcobar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really amazing concept coach

  • @berrytonejones11
    @berrytonejones11 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great concept and explanation of it 👍🏾

  • @GT234LIFE
    @GT234LIFE 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like this concept, I remember the Lakers did something close to this to the Rockets in the playoffs, similar to the Jazz

  • @WatchingLakersBasketball
    @WatchingLakersBasketball 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is nice im going to use this in the new 2k, NBA2K24 and use it against Playstation players.

  • @lon_1023
    @lon_1023 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Feel like only super long range shooter can play against this effectively. It’s really hard to use this if the offense player is 2 steps behind the 3 pt line. But there are only that few players can shoot like that. Sounds fun and workable especially in lower level of basketball

  • @hootboon5323
    @hootboon5323 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best of luck coach! hope you revolutionize everything

  • @Omnis2
    @Omnis2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Coach Nick's defense makes opposing teams watch a video sponsor ad until the shot clock runs out.

  • @studyofhoops
    @studyofhoops 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is similar to some of the concepts of what Murcia in Spain runs. Obviously they don't stand directly behind, but their idea is that the 5 man protects the paint and everyone else puts as much pressure as possible to funnel the ball into their 5 man. They play super physical, take on some unconventional positions, and use scouting to force the more talented players on the other team into uncomfortable situations. Similar to what you're explaining here.

  • @chrisneukum9542
    @chrisneukum9542 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i actually tend to always front a big man in pick up and almost prefer to guard from behind/side. its like that video on the unorthodox nba player who does chase defense.

  • @kingkettle2748
    @kingkettle2748 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My question is what about off ball screens involving forward and off ball guard and even forward and center away from the ball drawing the zone away from the ball handler and allowing for easier penetration and kicks back out

  • @povang4474
    @povang4474 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Watch Steve Kerr implement this defense this upcoming season. Kerr did admit to watching coach nick n only coach nick in a past interview, but that was 10 years ago. Still coach nick got Kerr for an interview

    • @bballbreakdown
      @bballbreakdown  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Oh, he said the same thing in the interview I just dropped 2 weeks ago!!

  • @shakiid7
    @shakiid7 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    lol when u said "what if we just eliminated the PNR altogether by getting behind the guy with the ball?", my head just immediately went to that clip where gilbert arenas talks about how sorry rubio looked as a defender tryna guard james harden this exact same way.
    these type of strategies only work on players who lack the abilities to adapt to the multiple speeds of the game. this is mostly just creating a chaotic environment for the opposing team to run they normal offense but it's not stopping an elite scorer who's not afraid of contact and has the ability to score either from midrange or the three, you'll just get embarrassed that night

  • @israelgonzalezp.6898
    @israelgonzalezp.6898 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is great. I would love to see this defense in the NBA.

  • @WammyGiveaway
    @WammyGiveaway 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bigger question: which NBA team do you see needing this defense the most to the point it can win them a title?
    Can I make a suggestion: make the 5 morph. There are players who can play both forward and center positions; I call these hybrid players cent-wards. At points in your defense, depending on opponent, have the 4 tag with a 5 so that the 4 is now restricted to the paint and the 5 pairs with the 1 or 2. Best time to deploy the switch would be while the offensive point guard is setting up a play from near half court. Wonder if you could switch as the play is being carried out. Idea here is that offense thinks center is still anchoring the paint, but as they get ready for the score, lo and behold its a much more athletic power forward patrolling the paint instead, hence the "morph". Keep the center relatively close to the paint for an emergency switch when need be, and maybe you got something.

  • @Blhitelikesnba2k
    @Blhitelikesnba2k 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting. Definitely worth trying.

  • @matthewdambrogio6573
    @matthewdambrogio6573 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Super interesting. It’s more interesting how no one has done this. Wat comes to mind for me is how there r great behind the ball defenders like thybulle I also think this is a super advanced defense that I think could also be someone should show this video to the thinking basketball guys and get their thoughts great video

  • @Chris.Tamayo
    @Chris.Tamayo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is probably a stupid question but what’s stopping me from putting the defender in jail since there already behind me then making the big commit to my drive or shot then dumping it off or lobbing it to my big in the paint and If they don’t commit (the big) I can either pull up fast for a foul since I’m running full speed and there on my back with all there momentum

    • @Kodreanu23
      @Kodreanu23 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree with the question. Nick's philosophy is let them have floaters all they, that's inefficient shot, but what about lob game, that is very efficient

    • @Chris.Tamayo
      @Chris.Tamayo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Kodreanu23 I watched the defense a little more to try to understand it I think (I could be totally wrong though) that since the defender is behind you he might really be able to actually get a deflection on your lob especially if he’s tall and lanky because he would probably be expecting it obviously against 6 foot casual ymca players that’s not happening but against a 6’7 lanky defender pretty sure he can pull it off thus negating this strategy im a point guard and I’m 6 feet tall and consider myself a capable ball handler but when there’s a guy with a 7 foot wingspan behind you it’s hard to play at your usual pace

  • @elanzankman4399
    @elanzankman4399 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The most interesting part of this idea is the closeouts, because you can close out way more aggressively if you're not worried about staying in front of your man. That would take away a lot of catch-and-shoot threes, which is a cool idea, but then the shooter can just take one dribble inside the arc and pull up for a wide open 18-footer. "But that's the shot you want them to take!" Maybe in high school, but NBA players will knock down that shot every single time if you give it to them.

  • @gavinmacaonghusa8122
    @gavinmacaonghusa8122 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think this chase defence could really suit someone like matisse thy ulle who already often defends from behind the ball with chaos and deflections

  • @shannonhall4871
    @shannonhall4871 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you should set out to design an offence to beat your new defence, like work out how to get an open 3 against this defence.

  • @JSFrederic
    @JSFrederic 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    interesting how in the past, where slashing/cutting is more "popular", offense put their defender in prison (behind them) is the way to go, but now its seems like totally different.

  • @Bojeezy
    @Bojeezy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like a lot of teams implement a similar defense already. I could be wrong.
    It is almost like a matador defense but with the a center like AD getting the guards to funnel into him.

  • @LakerFan
    @LakerFan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fire 💪🏼🔥

  • @timl998
    @timl998 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always go behind or to the side when I know they take forever and dribble too much or if they can't drive. Then I get the ball back when they miss

  • @arizcedieisales3391
    @arizcedieisales3391 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is also a 2K defense where most guards three hunts. And as a lock you gotta go over the screen and hip ride from the sides

  • @chiggsytube
    @chiggsytube 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We want the offense, it's that simple. Defense today is so much more cerebral, done right it is beautiful to watch.

  • @AlwaysBeClosingShow
    @AlwaysBeClosingShow 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks good! Would love to see this happen I’m an actual game!

  • @usafo6546
    @usafo6546 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the circle of life, this would bring the game back to inside-out, instead of outside-in. If this works, in the NBA, the big man will, once again, become dominant, as the offense will need a post up terror, to force double teams, for open outside looks

  • @jioreyes5838
    @jioreyes5838 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great stuff man

  • @chrispaul7849
    @chrispaul7849 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    love the outside the box thinking, coach nick!

  • @MikeTheNBAGuy
    @MikeTheNBAGuy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a neat concept but it looks like it should immediately fall apart if the offensive 5 just cuts to thr basket as his own man is forced to step up in the drop coverage

  • @edgarmorke1830
    @edgarmorke1830 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    looks really interesting, congrats

  • @MicMecca
    @MicMecca 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm sold. I can't wait to see the chase defense in the nba

  • @1991brytt
    @1991brytt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I’m not mistaken don’t teams do this already to certain players and it works but gets countered by a high arching shot and/or floater? I’m positive I see this used on Trae a lot

  • @rudinah8547
    @rudinah8547 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If spacing is the superpower that offenses have been using, then cut that off by putting a box on them, defending from outside. Genius (and crazy)

  • @airborne_seal
    @airborne_seal 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The one flaw I see is that the corner players in the offense are quite stagnant in these scrimmages. I feel like this defense would be easily broken down by a simple back door cut from almost any player as it allows an easy pass and then either the finish, lob or kick-out to opposite corner / wing. That would put the defense in scramble mode and potentially cause some missed rotations but if coached properly it would definitely limit the PnR offense. Another potential flaw would be how a PnP would likely cause switches and allow the guards to drive, pass out, relocate back to their original spot and then get the ball back to then isolate against the big. I could see guys like Fox, Lillard, Steph, Lavine, Harden, Edwards, etc. taking advantage of their dribble drive abilities and give themselves a 12sec iso from the wing. That being said, there is no such thing as a perfect defense, and you have to give up something no matter what scheme you run, so I’m not trying to discredit the defense. This would stop the PnR effectiveness but would likely allow more corner 3s and back-door cuts, imo.

  • @shakel32
    @shakel32 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What I would like to examine is how many corner 3s you're letting them, and then apply the average %of that shot against the number of shots you're allowed. It seemed to me this D is like a crazy 1-3-1 which would be easily punished by Euroleague level and most definitely NBA level, but of course it's hard to tell with so little footage.

  • @brandonwise2936
    @brandonwise2936 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a player in high school I took a lot of middys and I was a fairly good shooter in the mid range, would this defense stop that? Like say your guy gets behind me and I do the dribble drive to about the elbow and then just did a step back away from the trailing defender would this be able to stop it?

    • @CrimsonHeart3
      @CrimsonHeart3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's based on matchups, not meant to work for everything

  • @thinkactlive
    @thinkactlive 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like nba coaches low key all watch coach nick and were gonna see alot of this next season 😂

  • @kostasxsxs
    @kostasxsxs 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting! But at NBA level how do you eliminate the 2v1 lob threat?

  • @liogomez9178
    @liogomez9178 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks like a box and 1 but with a player chasing instead of being in front. Nice

  • @salvadorteran5181
    @salvadorteran5181 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember Scottie Pippen trying to explain this concept when T-Mac asked him how he would defend James Harden

  • @jarrettborkowski8658
    @jarrettborkowski8658 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this idea. It’s basically forcing an offense to play inside the perimeter. If you do that and defend the post/interior well enough, teams are going to be forced to put up a midrange shot, which we all know is the worst shot in terms of points per possession in the game.

  • @Soul_of_
    @Soul_of_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video great work why I sub to you 🔥🙏🏽🖖🏽

  • @seanwarner9893
    @seanwarner9893 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would the defender being behind the PG lead to wide open vision for passes to cutters? Running a down screen for the screener on the PnR could open him up for corner 3's as well? Just quick thoughts

    • @bballbreakdown
      @bballbreakdown  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s where the harassment from behind comes in, occupying the ball handler. He’s not just going to stand behind the dribbler passively. The pin down to corners is interesting

  • @dimelo58
    @dimelo58 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could work just wondering if the man with the ball drives to the basket wont the big man have to step up which would leave his man open for a lob? You’re essentially giving them the lane but taking away the 3 very interesting stuff

    • @Kodreanu23
      @Kodreanu23 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is a good question. What about lobs and short passes from a penetrator to his free dunker