I appreciate the frequent "this is what I do, but here are reasons you might want an alternate way" segments. I can tell you're having fun with this game and you want your viewers to be sharing that enjoyment(of experimentation) as well. Love your vids.
This is great. One thing that I like so much about your build suggestion videos is they are not just good in strategic perspective but also in roleplaying perspective.
I gotta say your content for BG3 is my favorite that ive found. Ive tried most of the builds you've done so far and ive enjoyed them all. Thanks for the content and keep it coming brother! 👍
So I changed this up slightly, ADORED using your build as a base though. Went for dual weilding with savage attacker on double longswords with the Adamantine Longsword in the offhand to nullify any and all slashing resistance for both of them, then with Larethian's Wrath and the sweep maneuvers you're cleaving for high damage every turn on every opponant no matter what, also letting you hit people through sanctuary, while ALSO having all the buffs and options for single enemy control. Later in act 2 I swapped in Cruel Sting as the primary sword sometimes but varied depending on fight. Love this video, had a ton of fun with this build. It's great.
The cool narrative with this class combination is that, with *both* the Healing Word spell and Rally maneuver, you can basically roleplay it as your character pointing to an ally and yelling "YOU DIE ONLY WHEN I SAY SO!" at them.
have said this time and again, cleric is the most versitile class in the game, it can fulfil any role incredibly well. from tank, to front line dps, to spellcaster, to CC, to support, to Healing to stealth. you can basically minor in cleric for any class, and they will get something out of it. even classes that technically would be best as pure, can get some utility from one of the cleric domains.
and it works in 5e too... i made this build on an adventure from 1 to 20 playing a tortle, 12battle master/8war domain... and it crushed everything. spirit guardians with so many attacks from fighter, just melt everything. PAM GWM sentinel warcaster tough and HAM. just do it! great video, great build. keep going!
FYI there is a currently a bug if you class out of War Cleric into another class (or maybe just in general, I've seen mixed reports): the War Priest extra attack will automatically come online after your first attack, meaning that you must spend a War Priest charge to make a second attack. Yes, that means what it sounds like--you must spend a War Priest charge before you can use your extra attack from action surge, martial classes' secondary attack, or haste. Before you ask, no, spending your bonus action on something else does not fix this, it just completely locks you out of your second action. Hopefully they fix this, although you probably want to start as fighter here
So this bug doesn't happen if you start in Fighter, move into Cleric, and then back into Fighter? I just started a Duergar Ranger as my third Tav, so I have time to wait for a fix. Still, this is a bad bug. It can really ruin a playthrough, forcing a character into an entirely different direction.
@@elementzero3379 That's what I've been told, though it's not clear to me. I am pretty sure I classed from monk into cleric on my run and still had the same problem. Hopefully they will change it to a toggleable passive. In the meantime, I guess just pick up the weapons/armor proficiencies from tempest cleric or something? But losing that bonus action attack bites.
I have been able to circumvent this by using my bonus action for something else before action surging or my first attack. But yeah that’s still 100% not working as intended lol it’s pretty annoying. Btw that’s starting w/ fighter and going into war cleric
Nice! i tried myself something similar but with 6/6 BM and Light Domain, more like Sunfire Templar. So i could go 2h or 1h+shield with spirit guardian on, some AOE like Radiance of the Dawn that scales with player lvl and even fireball if needed. Also picking Alert feat adds +5 to iniciative so it's also a good choice because with heavy armor and 10 dex, iniciative is really low. Cheeeers!
For another source of damage cast spiritual weapon. non concentration, cast as a bonus action and adds an additional weapon on the battlefield. My first round as a cleric is always to cast Spirit Guardians and Spiritual Weapon.
Something to keep in mind about the Maneuvers is that push attack will synergize very well with polearm master and sentinel. They come into range, eat an attack of opportunity, then you use push attack, come back into range, eat an attack of opportunity etc etc
cool build idea. i really enjoy the thematic builds. just as a side note though the fighting style dueling wont work with versatile weapons such as spears warhammers tridents longswords etc. so taking defence might work better for your setup with the +1 to ac.
@@KiallVunMyeret you are completely right. i could have sworn it didnt work last time i tried a dueling build, but i just checked it again, and i was wrong. thank you for correcting me.
If you went 6 fighter 6 cleric you would get an extra channel divinity and the ability to use that channel divinity to help an ally hit too! Just misses out on a few combat maneuvers
Just want to say thank you for all the build ideas for more play throughs. So far my favorite build is 6 eldritch knight and 6 storm sorcerer, I call it the Thor build.
Tip: For anyone going Gold Dwarf, remember their con goes up with every level, put extra points into dex instead to gain that initiative up so you are front line. Dexterity determines the initiative of your character.
I'm finally doing my first playthrough of BG3 maining Wyll but every time I switch to Shadowheart I'm like man Cleric seems so fun. Don't get tired of Eldritch blasting with impunity though Dark ones blessing and hellish rebuke ftw
I think 6/6 would be a better split. The extra maneuvers at level 7 seem like overkill compared to a second channel divinity charge and the ability to give your channel oath ability to allies. Good vid though
There actually IS a way to lose out on the Armor of Persistence vendor in act 2! I won't spoil it but it has to do with a certain person in Last Light Inn.
I'm playing a sword-and-board human bloke I'm calling "Alistair" (points for getting the reference ;) ) for my 3rd honour run attempt so was SO glad to find this vid. Thank you--it was like it was tailor made for my needs. :D
This might work very nicely with a polearm master + sentinel feat build, where you get an attack of opportunity when enemies come into your range and it stops their movement. Oups, commented before seeing your fighter level 5 section
I have a female drow dual wielder build similar to this, war cleric for Eilistraee. Focus on mobility. Lots of stepping in and out with Spirit Guardians.
Remember you can Also Get Free Heals and 1d6 boost from a Bard, Get all the Gear you can for A Bard use the Bard Hireling set that Bard up for long lasting Spells like Bard Inspiration longstrider, You can even use Enhanced, and then remove the Bard they buffs still stick with you. Plus Gives ya a reason to save your Healers heals and Potions, you can Also make A Hireling A Medical Potion maker
Multiattack has been bugged for months with Fighter/War Cleric. You need to do Fighter 5 then go into War cleric. Otherwise the game will force you to use your Bonus Cleric attack in-between your 2 regular attacks from Fighter. Which means you'll burn through all your Cleric Bonus attacks in 3 turns, even if you don't want to use them. Also, it's been like 3.5 months at this point. It feels like your example Elf should have made it to Level 12 by now. Just take an hour or two of play and actually finish him to 12, please! :)
The War Domain Cleric is so broken with Fighter and Paladin, turns you into the ultimate crusader knight. I'm trying the Paladin of Ancients with Light Domain Cleric of Lathander
Im trying it and its amazing, but i did the 2 weapon fighting, also using the bow that gives haste, potion of flying then casting spirit guardians makes it easier,
Really love this build! Thanks for making all these cool, "niche" ideas! I have a quick question (I'm new to the game and trying to figure stuff out) Would you be able to do this class with Shadowheart? I think she STARTS as Cleric, right? So would I just kind of do this the opposite?
Worth noting duelist, unless the text is wrong/misleading, will not work with Longsword because Longsword is versatile. It will however work with Rapier, which is the only 1d8 1 handed non versatile weapon in the game AFAIK. Trident is another option I think (i'm not 100%, pretty sure Trident is only 1d6 though)? Trident is better for something like arcane fighter though because trident is throwable and arcane fighters linked weapon returns to hand when thrown. There's even a legendary in the game that fits exactly into this but that is a whole other video.
Thank you for this i was looking for something similiar and nobody had a build like this, was just wondering any one handed sword you would recommend i just like the aesthetic more.
Questions: You took Dueling as your fighting style, but I don't think that works with Selune's spear because it has the versatile tag, right? I think that is the same for all spears and a few of the other weapons mentioned so I thought it worth asking.
I like this idea. I can’t decide what I want to do with shadowheart. Right now I have her with base Sorcerer to keep full spell slots and get the con save proficiency with 4 levels or war cleric. Fighter makes more sense, but I lose those third level spell slots for upcasting…
Most broken weapon in a game is undoubtedly a monk fists. With tavern brawler feat monk can deal ridiculous amounts of damage with highest accuracy. And you don't need to use exploits for that.
Genuinely, how do you come up with these? I finally started this game, have 2 playthroughs completed, and I want to start making my own builds. I understand the game, I've been learning DnD 5E / the BG3 changes... what do you do?
I actually did a video about it! I try to find a rough idea I want to do and then see how I can rotate the levels around to work.. Like 7/5 or 6/6 or 10/2, whatever it is! Then I choose items that give bonuses to the abilities I unlocked :)
So far I have only played balanced difficulty. That being said, some time ago I was given advice on clerics. "A good cleric primarily, if only, buffs." In y'all opinion, how does this stack up?
I wanted to make a build for the weapon of bernard , was thinki g some kind of ranger cleric or fighter cleric class was not sure if it was a good idea tho
I love this idea! I currently am leveling a half-orc battle master 6, divination wizard 2, paladin 2, light cleric 2 dual wielder with ability score improvements with strength focus, heavy armor master. Might switch to champion in order to maximize dual wielding crit chances😂 My other campaign with wife has a gold dragonborn level 6 light cleric moving into paladin with radiant armor
I might be missing something but can someone explain to my why he chose the dueling feat if he ended up choosing polearm master. Doesn’t that completely negate duelings effect. If so wouldn’t there be a better option to choose?
Because dueling doesn't care if a weapon is versatile or not. It cares if you are wielding only a single weapon, and said weapon is being held by a single hand. So if you have a versatile weapon in one hand, and a shield in the other... dueling fighting style applies.
Hi! Super late reply and I may not be entirely correct about this but I was thinking the same thing and as far as I could tell, you absolutely can do that. Starting as fighter just gives you proficiency with constitution saving throws which helps you keep your concentration spells up, but I’m pretty sure there are ways to offset it as well, there’s a necklace in Act 3 that boosts your constitution to 23 and I have that on Shadowheart now to incredible effect. But earlier in the game, you can also take one of fighter’s extra feats to be able to snag that constitution saving throw proficiency as well if you have to. Might not be quite as optimal but it fits thematically. If there’s anything else I missed I’m sure someone else will swoop in and correct me too haha
Apologies for the Necropost, but with only 14 WIS, your casting ability is really low for the use of several spells you mention. The Spell DC is pretty low ( for Spiritual guardians, hold person etc) isn't it? I know you add to the DC, with a few items, but....
Everything you level up, you have the option at the bottom to "add a class" and you will get to use your level up to take one level in a different class rather than progressing your current class. You can talk to Withers at any time in camp and pay him 100 gp to "change my class" and that will set you back at level one and you can level up again to your character level. If you were a level 6 paladin but wanted to have a level in cleric instead, you could do this process and after talking to Withers you will be level 1 but still character level 6. Level up like normal with the standard choices, but instead of leveling your paladin to 6, you "add a class" and select cleric. Just an example but that's how it will work
Remember when the game came out and I've picked Cleric. Everyone on the internet were saying that Cleric is the worst class. And now it's the opposite way. So I was right, what do you say now you so called pro players hmm? What do you say? 😘🤣
Wait, why choose Dueling as a Fighting Style here? Warhammers and Spears are Versatile Weapons, and Dueling states that it needs to be a weapon that isn't Two Handed or Versatile. Do Spears and Warhammers still benefit from Dueling anyway?
Just a note for those who pick the "duelling" fighting style: the damage bonus only applies to one-handed non-versatile weapons. So if you use a spear like Selune's (which is versatile) as suggested in the video, you won't get the damage bonus. So if you're a spear girlie, you might as well go defence for your fighting style.
Have you tested this? The wording is weird on that fighting style, but it boils down to “if you are using a weapon in one hand.” Versatile weapons are supposed to get the bonus
You know what about 2 level fighter 1 cleric 5 ranger and 4 clleric , you will get tanky as hell with a lot more charges of caster and fire resistance and some good rituall spell
Honestly, found Cleric to be mostly useless when compared to either Sorcerer or Warlock. In fact, found both of those to be useless when I can have a Sharpshooter Gloomstalker and/or Fighter with Arrows of Many Targets, and also Eldritch Blast Warlock. The way the game works, full casters, or melee gish casters are just medicore.
Pretty sure highest dps is a gish. Pally 2 swords bard 10 with helm of acuity and the spell quickening ring that lets you can enchant and illusion as bonus action. You can 100 percent hold person like 5 targets and guarantee crit smite everyone with the equivalent of 4-5 attacks per turn.
I appreciate the frequent "this is what I do, but here are reasons you might want an alternate way" segments. I can tell you're having fun with this game and you want your viewers to be sharing that enjoyment(of experimentation) as well. Love your vids.
Hell yeah man! No one wants to be told how to play D&D by the book! :) I just want ya'll to enjoy yourselves!!
Facts. I always appreciate tutorials for builds with flexibility, allowing us to put our own spin on it.
I agree, makes the content very consumable
yea but tbh I ended up following OP's recommendation 9/10 times lol
@@italianspartacusThat "ya'll" just earned yourself a follow
It was refreshing to hear you talk about the roleplay aspects in addition to the number crunching
This is great. One thing that I like so much about your build suggestion videos is they are not just good in strategic perspective but also in roleplaying perspective.
I gotta say your content for BG3 is my favorite that ive found. Ive tried most of the builds you've done so far and ive enjoyed them all. Thanks for the content and keep it coming brother! 👍
So I changed this up slightly, ADORED using your build as a base though. Went for dual weilding with savage attacker on double longswords with the Adamantine Longsword in the offhand to nullify any and all slashing resistance for both of them, then with Larethian's Wrath and the sweep maneuvers you're cleaving for high damage every turn on every opponant no matter what, also letting you hit people through sanctuary, while ALSO having all the buffs and options for single enemy control. Later in act 2 I swapped in Cruel Sting as the primary sword sometimes but varied depending on fight. Love this video, had a ton of fun with this build. It's great.
The cool narrative with this class combination is that, with *both* the Healing Word spell and Rally maneuver, you can basically roleplay it as your character pointing to an ally and yelling "YOU DIE ONLY WHEN I SAY SO!" at them.
Used this build for my honor mode run it was really fun. Thanks for the this! I will now enjoy my golden d20
have said this time and again, cleric is the most versitile class in the game, it can fulfil any role incredibly well. from tank, to front line dps, to spellcaster, to CC, to support, to Healing to stealth.
you can basically minor in cleric for any class, and they will get something out of it. even classes that technically would be best as pure, can get some utility from one of the cleric domains.
Love this build. I've been using this on Shadowheart on my last few runs through the game
Fuck yes!
been looking for a good war cleric build for ages. Lolthsworn drow cleric opens up heaps of dialogue
You can see the saving throw proficiency by hovering over the various stats on the right side of the screen.
Thank you!!!
Man, I was just thinking about how I wanted to play a martial-focused Cleric and you roll this out. Thanks!
and it works in 5e too... i made this build on an adventure from 1 to 20 playing a tortle, 12battle master/8war domain... and it crushed everything. spirit guardians with so many attacks from fighter, just melt everything. PAM GWM sentinel warcaster tough and HAM. just do it!
great video, great build. keep going!
Definitely gonna try this out, looks really fun and interesting! Could be really fun to go for a dark urge playthrough with this.
FYI there is a currently a bug if you class out of War Cleric into another class (or maybe just in general, I've seen mixed reports): the War Priest extra attack will automatically come online after your first attack, meaning that you must spend a War Priest charge to make a second attack. Yes, that means what it sounds like--you must spend a War Priest charge before you can use your extra attack from action surge, martial classes' secondary attack, or haste. Before you ask, no, spending your bonus action on something else does not fix this, it just completely locks you out of your second action. Hopefully they fix this, although you probably want to start as fighter here
So this bug doesn't happen if you start in Fighter, move into Cleric, and then back into Fighter?
I just started a Duergar Ranger as my third Tav, so I have time to wait for a fix. Still, this is a bad bug. It can really ruin a playthrough, forcing a character into an entirely different direction.
@@elementzero3379 That's what I've been told, though it's not clear to me. I am pretty sure I classed from monk into cleric on my run and still had the same problem. Hopefully they will change it to a toggleable passive. In the meantime, I guess just pick up the weapons/armor proficiencies from tempest cleric or something? But losing that bonus action attack bites.
I have been able to circumvent this by using my bonus action for something else before action surging or my first attack. But yeah that’s still 100% not working as intended lol it’s pretty annoying.
Btw that’s starting w/ fighter and going into war cleric
@@WeissBomb32 Good to know. I was just discussing this bug online last night. You've saved me the hassle of testing it.
Nice RP prompts. Makes your video stand out in a good way.
Nice! i tried myself something similar but with 6/6 BM and Light Domain, more like Sunfire Templar. So i could go 2h or 1h+shield with spirit guardian on, some AOE like Radiance of the Dawn that scales with player lvl and even fireball if needed. Also picking Alert feat adds +5 to iniciative so it's also a good choice because with heavy armor and 10 dex, iniciative is really low. Cheeeers!
Played this build for awhile and my lord it slaps hard.
For another source of damage cast spiritual weapon. non concentration, cast as a bonus action and adds an additional weapon on the battlefield. My first round as a cleric is always to cast Spirit Guardians and Spiritual Weapon.
Boom! Great shout dude. I always forget which are concentration and which aren't
I always go back and forth on build ideas for my Tav and the group, but this looks like a steady "rock" to build around.
I actually really like rally, if someone gets downed you can pick them up with a bonus action and save your spell slots
Thanks bro you've been a big help for the start of my builds.
U got my sub bro! Really high quality content
Something to keep in mind about the Maneuvers is that push attack will synergize very well with polearm master and sentinel.
They come into range, eat an attack of opportunity, then you use push attack, come back into range, eat an attack of opportunity etc etc
So when an enemy enters a pole arms range we can attack them first?
cool build idea. i really enjoy the thematic builds. just as a side note though the fighting style dueling wont work with versatile weapons such as spears warhammers tridents longswords etc. so taking defence might work better for your setup with the +1 to ac.
despite the weird wording, dueling does work with versatile weapons as long as you one hand them by having a shield in the other hand
@@KiallVunMyeret you are completely right. i could have sworn it didnt work last time i tried a dueling build, but i just checked it again, and i was wrong. thank you for correcting me.
@@TwinkieDK Came down here looking for this answer thanks guys!
"All you have to do is not destroy the grove"
Me on my 3rd evil playthrough: *profuse sweating*
HAHAHAH
If you went 6 fighter 6 cleric you would get an extra channel divinity and the ability to use that channel divinity to help an ally hit too! Just misses out on a few combat maneuvers
Just want to say thank you for all the build ideas for more play throughs. So far my favorite build is 6 eldritch knight and 6 storm sorcerer, I call it the Thor build.
Tip: For anyone going Gold Dwarf, remember their con goes up with every level, put extra points into dex instead to gain that initiative up so you are front line. Dexterity determines the initiative of your character.
I'm finally doing my first playthrough of BG3 maining Wyll but every time I switch to Shadowheart I'm like man Cleric seems so fun. Don't get tired of Eldritch blasting with impunity though Dark ones blessing and hellish rebuke ftw
I ALWAYS pick alert for my first feat. Going first in combat is very OP in this game.
I think 6/6 would be a better split. The extra maneuvers at level 7 seem like overkill compared to a second channel divinity charge and the ability to give your channel oath ability to allies. Good vid though
I agree. 6/6 is what I’m building towards with shadowheart.
Definitely works man!! Whatever you want out of the character is what you should do!
There actually IS a way to lose out on the Armor of Persistence vendor in act 2! I won't spoil it but it has to do with a certain person in Last Light Inn.
love your videos bro, great work!
I'm playing a sword-and-board human bloke I'm calling "Alistair" (points for getting the reference ;) ) for my 3rd honour run attempt so was SO glad to find this vid. Thank you--it was like it was tailor made for my needs. :D
If only you could rename Scratch to Barkspawn.
@@WhiskeyPatriot Yes! :D
I was about to say good luck going last in combat but then i remembered the gloves of dex
This might work very nicely with a polearm master + sentinel feat build, where you get an attack of opportunity when enemies come into your range and it stops their movement.
Oups, commented before seeing your fighter level 5 section
I’m doing a similar build but going to do 5 levels Cleric and the rest eldritch knight fighter with the crown of intellect to buff spells.
I have a female drow dual wielder build similar to this, war cleric for Eilistraee. Focus on mobility. Lots of stepping in and out with Spirit Guardians.
Remember you can Also Get Free Heals and 1d6 boost from a Bard, Get all the Gear you can for A Bard use the Bard Hireling set that Bard up for long lasting Spells like Bard Inspiration longstrider, You can even use Enhanced, and then remove the Bard they buffs still stick with you.
Plus Gives ya a reason to save your Healers heals and Potions, you can Also make A Hireling A Medical Potion maker
i mean, the best healer in the game is a bard/cleric.
eeey! my current one is fighter cleric! love it!
Thanks for the video
OF COURSE BROTHER!
Multiattack has been bugged for months with Fighter/War Cleric. You need to do Fighter 5 then go into War cleric. Otherwise the game will force you to use your Bonus Cleric attack in-between your 2 regular attacks from Fighter. Which means you'll burn through all your Cleric Bonus attacks in 3 turns, even if you don't want to use them. Also, it's been like 3.5 months at this point. It feels like your example Elf should have made it to Level 12 by now. Just take an hour or two of play and actually finish him to 12, please! :)
Oh thx for info then. Now i know it's not worthing to take war cleric early. But why author didn't check it?
I CAN'T DO IT! THEN THAT MEANS THE GAME WILL END! :(
@@italianspartacus You can always make a new char and go again :D
@@italianspartacusno it doesn’t i was level 12 in my last playthrough for the last few hours of the game before it ended
This'll be Lae'zel's next build!
The War Domain Cleric is so broken with Fighter and Paladin, turns you into the ultimate crusader knight. I'm trying the Paladin of Ancients with Light Domain Cleric of Lathander
Im trying it and its amazing, but i did the 2 weapon fighting, also using the bow that gives haste, potion of flying then casting spirit guardians makes it easier,
Really love this build! Thanks for making all these cool, "niche" ideas! I have a quick question (I'm new to the game and trying to figure stuff out) Would you be able to do this class with Shadowheart? I think she STARTS as Cleric, right? So would I just kind of do this the opposite?
Yup! Just respec her at Withers :)
@@italianspartacus Awesome, thank you! :)
Btw, sorry for all the noob questions I'm asking on some of these builds haha
don't you even worry about it bro!
Worth noting duelist, unless the text is wrong/misleading, will not work with Longsword because Longsword is versatile. It will however work with Rapier, which is the only 1d8 1 handed non versatile weapon in the game AFAIK. Trident is another option I think (i'm not 100%, pretty sure Trident is only 1d6 though)? Trident is better for something like arcane fighter though because trident is throwable and arcane fighters linked weapon returns to hand when thrown. There's even a legendary in the game that fits exactly into this but that is a whole other video.
It works with any weapon you are wielding in one hand, with a shield or empty off-hand. The text us misleading.
It works with Longsword and other versatile weapons if you have a shield and are using them one-handed
@@derekgunnels4856 @fiveforbiting thank you for the replies this is very good to know
Thank you for this i was looking for something similiar and nobody had a build like this, was just wondering any one handed sword you would recommend i just like the aesthetic more.
Blood of Lathander :) you can get it in act 1! It's very strong
I'm surprised you didn't bring up the strange conduit ring when using concertation spells it gives you a extra d4 psychic damage
Questions: You took Dueling as your fighting style, but I don't think that works with Selune's spear because it has the versatile tag, right? I think that is the same for all spears and a few of the other weapons mentioned so I thought it worth asking.
Only if you use selune has a two hander! I tested it, it'll work just fine with one hand :)
Awesome, thank you!@@italianspartacus
I thought of this combination before, but never quite pieced two and two together what subclasses should be used, you know.
You can choose various options.
I wonder if Corpsgrinder feels he has to use Corpsgrinder in his play throughs?
I like this idea. I can’t decide what I want to do with shadowheart. Right now I have her with base Sorcerer to keep full spell slots and get the con save proficiency with 4 levels or war cleric. Fighter makes more sense, but I lose those third level spell slots for upcasting…
Could you do this build with a polearm like a halberd? I like the extra reach and versatility of a polearm
Absolutely!
Is there still the bug that war priest charges get used uneccessarily unless you get fighter to lvl 5 first, then mc into cleris?
For this built I would also recommend the most broken weapon in the game: Deva Mace
It is ridiculous 1d6-1 +4d8 radiant
Most broken weapon in a game is undoubtedly a monk fists. With tavern brawler feat monk can deal ridiculous amounts of damage with highest accuracy. And you don't need to use exploits for that.
@@KirDmA
I think they fixed the Deva mace trick since then, anyhow.
I just want that armor on the thumbnail lol
Genuinely, how do you come up with these? I finally started this game, have 2 playthroughs completed, and I want to start making my own builds. I understand the game, I've been learning DnD 5E / the BG3 changes... what do you do?
I actually did a video about it! I try to find a rough idea I want to do and then see how I can rotate the levels around to work.. Like 7/5 or 6/6 or 10/2, whatever it is! Then I choose items that give bonuses to the abilities I unlocked :)
@@italianspartacus Thank you! I'm going to watch that video right now haha
I actually have a templar build going! Its an eldritch knight/tempest cleric. Its... alot of stats to manage XD but its fun.
So far I have only played balanced difficulty. That being said, some time ago I was given advice on clerics. "A good cleric primarily, if only, buffs." In y'all opinion, how does this stack up?
Bro so I’m taking the dark urge origin so I think of it as something close to a knight that can’t escape from his past as a soldier
Start 1st lvl as Fighter for Constitution save proficiency
I wanted to make a build for the weapon of bernard , was thinki g some kind of ranger cleric or fighter cleric class was not sure if it was a good idea tho
If I have multi spirit guardians on does they stack ?
On different characters? Yes, sir. If they overlap with each other you can recreate a spiritual Hot Gates and bring a stop to Persian advancement.
Weird question but do you use the body type 2 on most of your characters? What was the body type you used on this one?
I love this idea! I currently am leveling a half-orc battle master 6, divination wizard 2, paladin 2, light cleric 2 dual wielder with ability score improvements with strength focus, heavy armor master. Might switch to champion in order to maximize dual wielding crit chances😂
My other campaign with wife has a gold dragonborn level 6 light cleric moving into paladin with radiant armor
Why don't u use the medium armor for radiant orb and dual weilding devs maces
I might be missing something but can someone explain to my why he chose the dueling feat if he ended up choosing polearm master. Doesn’t that completely negate duelings effect. If so wouldn’t there be a better option to choose?
Correct! I think i was illustrating one of the feats, not the specific one i took! But if you take Polearm master, take Two Handed Fithing :)
When it comes to the hag's hair what is your recommended stat to put it to?
Your primary Stat . Unless it's on an even number. Str 1st, then Wis 2nd, then Con 3rd priority wise
my ONLY gripe, is that you can't play a paladin story line with this class
Why is everone picking Duelling and using a versatile weapon? Defence would be better in this build, wouldn't it? But thanks for your work! :D
Because dueling doesn't care if a weapon is versatile or not. It cares if you are wielding only a single weapon, and said weapon is being held by a single hand. So if you have a versatile weapon in one hand, and a shield in the other... dueling fighting style applies.
well okay... it reads "while it's not two-handed or versatile". But I didn't test it.@@Axterix13
It means versatile and being USED as two handed :) it still works with one handed and a shield. Thanks so much for watching brother
Is 6 in CLERIC and 6 in FIGHTER good to?
Very!! :)
Ima try a 6/6 split with champion, not to crit fish more a to role play being a champion of my god
Does Polearm Master work with tridents?
Can you start with Cleric and then fighter for RP reasons? Any disadvantage?
Hi! Super late reply and I may not be entirely correct about this but I was thinking the same thing and as far as I could tell, you absolutely can do that. Starting as fighter just gives you proficiency with constitution saving throws which helps you keep your concentration spells up, but I’m pretty sure there are ways to offset it as well, there’s a necklace in Act 3 that boosts your constitution to 23 and I have that on Shadowheart now to incredible effect. But earlier in the game, you can also take one of fighter’s extra feats to be able to snag that constitution saving throw proficiency as well if you have to. Might not be quite as optimal but it fits thematically. If there’s anything else I missed I’m sure someone else will swoop in and correct me too haha
Apologies for the Necropost, but with only 14 WIS, your casting ability is really low for the use of several spells you mention. The Spell DC is pretty low ( for Spiritual guardians, hold person etc) isn't it? I know you add to the DC, with a few items, but....
Wait did dragonborne always scale with lvl with their breath I remember playing months ago and not liking the breathe attack
Nope! It's a recent patch! It's lovely
THanks i will try it out when i make a new one @@italianspartacus
Ok noob question but how do you pick up the se one class? Is it Withers?
Everything you level up, you have the option at the bottom to "add a class" and you will get to use your level up to take one level in a different class rather than progressing your current class. You can talk to Withers at any time in camp and pay him 100 gp to "change my class" and that will set you back at level one and you can level up again to your character level. If you were a level 6 paladin but wanted to have a level in cleric instead, you could do this process and after talking to Withers you will be level 1 but still character level 6. Level up like normal with the standard choices, but instead of leveling your paladin to 6, you "add a class" and select cleric. Just an example but that's how it will work
Remember when the game came out and I've picked Cleric.
Everyone on the internet were saying that Cleric is the worst class.
And now it's the opposite way.
So I was right, what do you say now you so called pro players hmm? What do you say? 😘🤣
Hahahaha. Everyone said the same thing about shadow monk and now it's got some really cool class combos
Wait, why choose Dueling as a Fighting Style here? Warhammers and Spears are Versatile Weapons, and Dueling states that it needs to be a weapon that isn't Two Handed or Versatile. Do Spears and Warhammers still benefit from Dueling anyway?
As long as you're not using a versatile weapon in your off hand, you're totally good :) the tool tip is very confusing
For the algorithm
Wouldn't a Templar Knight just be a paladin?
Yes, but a different engine running in the background on how they receive their powers.
Just a note for those who pick the "duelling" fighting style: the damage bonus only applies to one-handed non-versatile weapons. So if you use a spear like Selune's (which is versatile) as suggested in the video, you won't get the damage bonus. So if you're a spear girlie, you might as well go defence for your fighting style.
I tested this and it does indeed work with two handed versatile weapons wielded in one hand :)
@@italianspartacus 😯😯😯 they should change that tooltip then! *equips all spears*
I prefer Paladin/Cleric, specifically Vengeance/Tempest.
Nice
Phalar Aluve doesn't get the +2 bonus from dueling, however. (Weapon cannot be light or versatile.)
Have you tested this? The wording is weird on that fighting style, but it boils down to “if you are using a weapon in one hand.” Versatile weapons are supposed to get the bonus
It's Two-handed or versatile USED as a two-hander. You're fine if you use it as a one-handed long sword :)
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Hey how do you have fighter and cleric at lvl 1? I'm level 5 with my fighter but can't choose a subclass
the dragon born resistance is very respectable as a racial feature
You know what about 2 level fighter 1 cleric 5 ranger and 4 clleric , you will get tanky as hell with a lot more charges of caster and fire resistance and some good rituall spell
Random comment for TH-cam algorithm
Homie really ditched dragonborn so fast
hahaha i don't have a lvl 12 dragonborn character :)
Ripost is not pronounced like that
It's not spelled like that 😀
@@jonburfoot6772 If i spelled it right they wouldn't know wtf i was talking about.
Templar Knight is just a paladin.
Paladins get out.
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Honestly, found Cleric to be mostly useless when compared to either Sorcerer or Warlock. In fact, found both of those to be useless when I can have a Sharpshooter Gloomstalker and/or Fighter with Arrows of Many Targets, and also Eldritch Blast Warlock. The way the game works, full casters, or melee gish casters are just medicore.
Pretty sure highest dps is a gish. Pally 2 swords bard 10 with helm of acuity and the spell quickening ring that lets you can enchant and illusion as bonus action. You can 100 percent hold person like 5 targets and guarantee crit smite everyone with the equivalent of 4-5 attacks per turn.
I feel like fighter/cleric is my only option to play a holy warrior without being boxed into always good pally