The good thing about him is that, he's not protecting the culprits but himself, that is why he's saying"the crime scene was tempered with but it was before his first arrival".
Can't wait,to hear what thwala has to say.and this police is returning every to people were sitting with Senzo.i excualy like this police,mosia pretended a lot till we felt that he was very sick.giod programming
I am very sorry to say that the first police officers on the crime scene were incompetent! Even l would have known what to do without to police school to gain experience.
To tell you the truth a good lawyer like mshololo can turn you in to a fool😂. This Mthethwa guy said they called colleagues to guard the crime scene whn they left. But today infront pf mshololo he forgot that he said it...
You should not adjust your honesty because you are afraid of how another person is going to take it. Purify your soul before worrying about your social image. It is better to truly be a good person, than to simply appear it. This is how authenticity is compromised, and passive aggressive behavior starts.
I agree,he looks agitated and that doesn't help him at all..it's disrespect njee.this case really shows how incompetent our police officers are and don't do what they supposed to do at the scene.thats why a lot of cases gets thrown out of court
Maybe if they can adjust their documents to fit the criteria that is being asked because I think that the questions being asked are the usual with an addition based on the case at hand.
So there was no one to accompany the"buti", i mean your partner just died , you have the ernegy to still drive other people out of the hospital🤔 interesting
This on TT said since they were 2, so ebengeno hamba yedwa, police go in pairs, now that they are known to be 4 they reasoning is no longer the same. Mshololo is very Good,
Mshololo made him admit that they were 4 with the students. But when reading the statement she said the other witness said 2 police officers came through? 🤔
Unyambose ukhombisa ukudelela, akaqeqeshiwe ismilo sob'phoyisa, he comes across as arrogant, not understanding his role as a member of the SAPS. He all the show.
Ive said this befor, that Adv Mshololo is the one to expose loop holes. I would choose her over that bum Teffo any day...dude couldnt even follow simple procedures yet good in making unnecessary punch lines... Big ups to Adv Mshololo
“The truth that there SAPS and its General should know is that everything starts from the top. What determines your failure or success is your style of leadership and the chain of command that you design.”
Shame. All this sergeants was constables at the time...And its so long ago...It's difficult to recall everything..Attorneys for defence having a field day.
Iyooo... the quality of our cops is embarrassing for such a high profile case. Imagine what we the unknown face. So cops dont know what happened and submitted a docket to NPA to prosecute who is probably regretting now.
Hot question need people was in the house now this court will be eazy for all of them because they watch this court..now we will hear all lies the some thing police ans here they will do the something. An mshololo will have to becaful for them because to people was with senzo now they writing down now. An madam she is busy helping them to answer questions once they come in she is so happy to come to court because she knows she will try her best killy lawyer she busy with her clients now to respond to some of question will be repeat to them.Tt thobane he is wait right case to raise he s question to them.
There seems to be inconsistencies but I am just certain that the police did their job on that night. This doesn't nullify the facts on the crime scene.
State will not win this case. Contradictions after the other. Mosia must be recalled. He must come answer about his arrival and who came first between him and the police offices and between him and Ndlovu
Mthetwa! I don't think he learned anything from that crime. He wouldn't improve even if he had to attend to another tomorrow. He responds as if it was not his responsibility to do right on the crime scene. Saps needs to improve.
Very bad attitude and the Judge was supposed to remind long back that he is under oath and representing evidence from the SAP he is not there for himself of which he has rise temper
Nabanye bazsofunda isifundo ukudla imali yegazi akubuyiseli uzidonsela amashwa ziyakhala manje nisenkingeni imali niyidakiwe nafundusa izingane zenu izinqa zizovela obala
Am I the only one confused by the Interpreter,his accent sometimes turns to Cape coloured when speaking English, but then his Zulu is also on point,just curious.
Uzwakala kancono kunephoyisa. If the scene was tempered with, the end result will be that no visible evidence, book not found akunasiqiniseko sobufakazi and incompetent saps, theh could not rely on them since they are not trained investigators. Accuse 1 to 4 they need another intelligent advocate for going forward if we need good results
The translater is doing a good job.
Very confident
Mshololo is iron..what a lawyer she is....brilliant
I love her so much ❤️🔥 she's dope .....wish to meet her one day ❤️🔥🔥🔥
The calibre of witnesses from SAPS is such an embarrassment, one can only imagine how corrupt they are and also lack professionalism.
Very sad that Senzo who was a professional but now his case represented by mediocre
It's equal to their dedication to work
Kodwa Mthethwa🤦♀️
I like the way this Mthethwa guy, the way he answers shows confidence. He's not intimidated by the questions.
I like Mshololo she is calm , and she will get answers
This judge must be close friends with Mshololo. His giving her leads on the questions.
No his a good and calm Judge.
Even the way she addresses the witness wooow hay Mshololo gestures. Expressions
This sergeant is tailoring his testimony. Too many inconsistencies and he is defensive!
The good thing about him is that, he's not protecting the culprits but himself, that is why he's saying"the crime scene was tempered with but it was before his first arrival".
Yaaa.then this gives us the direction to those who were there,have done many things before police arrived.thinking less about the person who was shot.
Why is the judge angry when TT request that MaKhumalo should come and testify. 😂😂😂😂
Ligqwirha lotata
Lolz usile lo
Because those grounds have been canvassed before not once.
They must bring thuso thwala first and hear about the phone story can't wait 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Can't wait,to hear what thwala has to say.and this police is returning every to people were sitting with Senzo.i excualy like this police,mosia pretended a lot till we felt that he was very sick.giod programming
I thought as much the pocket book won't be found..wow this case😒😒
And in all this,I don't know who ever is being protected,why are they protected.we still have a long way.as there are many witness
I am very sorry to say that the first police officers on the crime scene were incompetent!
Even l would have known what to do without to police school to gain experience.
The case was manipulated by their superiors, that is y the Officers seem lost in this case
To tell you the truth a good lawyer like mshololo can turn you in to a fool😂. This Mthethwa guy said they called colleagues to guard the crime scene whn they left. But today infront pf mshololo he forgot that he said it...
Ibivele ingekho...I can not wait to see these THUGS go down as we wait for everything to unfold.
You should not adjust your honesty because you are afraid of how another person is going to take it. Purify your soul before worrying about your social image. It is better to truly be a good person, than to simply appear it. This is how authenticity is compromised, and passive aggressive behavior starts.
Imbokodo. Mshololo!
Relationship between Mshololo and the Judge, Mmmmmmm, Wow
How can a witness introduce herself as MaKhumalo to the officials? Come on Mthethwa. I guess information is more important than this.
Ay what a cop this one is🤣🤣🤣straight to jail this one🤞
Amen
Hmmm 🤔 water 💦 not blood. Interesting Adv Mshololo 👏
Mshololo she's the best 👌
Angena amanzi endlini usewafakile umfokaMthethwa ngifuna ukubona ayokhishwa ubani TT and Mshololo bayashisa bheee
Judge Maumela seems to be enjoying the case now that advocate Teffo is not involved. Aoo batho!
Tefo was a pain in his ... he wanted this case to finish mashesha
The lady lawyer is fire⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡
Ngthand ubunsizwa bakh nokungesabi kwakh mfok Mthethwa🤝
Inkabi yena umfoka mthethwa
Inkabi yena umfoka mthethwa
This one needs Teffo’s line of questioning 😅
That one is a fool 😂👍
Mshololo is doing a far better job.
Lakwata judge makubizwa Makhumalo
TT RESPECT THIS JUDGE UNLIKE NTEFFO
So the four police went to the hospital and left an empty van outside the Crime Scene 😳 🤔
Adv Baloyi was not helping, throwing the Sergeant under the bus
This witness is just something
This witness doesn't look interested in the proceedings
I agree,he looks agitated and that doesn't help him at all..it's disrespect njee.this case really shows how incompetent our police officers are and don't do what they supposed to do at the scene.thats why a lot of cases gets thrown out of court
Maybe if they can adjust their documents to fit the criteria that is being asked because I think that the questions being asked are the usual with an addition based on the case at hand.
Maggie says she cleaned the house so the police would not see that people were drinking alcohol in the house but she left beer cans in plain sight? 🤔
Remember finding 1 can vs finding a case of cans. I think it suggests that the quantity of alcohol consumed...
🤔🤔🤔
Think they were using drugs more likely.
Awaboshwe lamaphoyisa Mosia and Mthethwa
@@mbongenimsomi6277 🤣😂
So there was no one to accompany the"buti", i mean your partner just died , you have the ernegy to still drive other people out of the hospital🤔 interesting
It's disturbing
Wat was that person rushing for after losing someone that you've jus been having drinks with???
Inkani kulensizwa
Thnks Mthethwa
This witness is lucky Teffo is no longer here.
😂😂😂😂😂
Mosia has eaten the money of Kelly Khumalo.
🤣🤣🤣 you killed son
The timeframe doesn't add up...From both witnesses thus far
Mshololo bullying the witness using this phrase "That is the language that the Court use" what a low blow.
It's ok she must teach. Now you know.
Translator is also getting worked up when the witness is getting irritated
This on TT said since they were 2, so ebengeno hamba yedwa, police go in pairs, now that they are known to be 4 they reasoning is no longer the same.
Mshololo is very Good,
Mshololo made him admit that they were 4 with the students. But when reading the statement she said the other witness said 2 police officers came through? 🤔
TT is good xem, am wondering why he gave Teffo this case in the first place
Teffo ruined his career by including spirituality where not necessary. Things of court are proven by evidence not by gospel.
Unyambose ukhombisa ukudelela, akaqeqeshiwe ismilo sob'phoyisa, he comes across as arrogant, not understanding his role as a member of the SAPS. He all the show.
Ive said this befor, that Adv Mshololo is the one to expose loop holes. I would choose her over that bum Teffo any day...dude couldnt even follow simple procedures yet good in making unnecessary punch lines... Big ups to Adv Mshololo
“The truth that there SAPS and its General should know is that everything starts from the top. What determines your failure or success is your style of leadership and the chain of command that you design.”
TT and Teffo I wish that they work together in preparation of line of questioning. Teffo 's unique skills are highly needed in the proceedings
TEFFO OPENED THE HOLES IN THIS CASE NOW EVERYTHING IS OUT ..TT IS ON IT
But they must get someone who can transcript for them , I'm not happy with TT line of questioning .. every time is "I put it to u"
This people they must go to jail
You can see the guild on his face
His so shy why
Adv mshololo...best
She is fire, and so consisteny
Two men entered 🤔 but we are prosecuting 5. Hmmm thanks adv Mshololo for such questions
Maybe others were lookouts & getaway driver or they planned it together.
@@beewest5704 maybe indeed
But wasn't the other one serving a life sentence already?
Who is fooling who. Mosia said he found the whole family in the house. Mthethwa says he found Kelly's uncle guarding the house or scene.
Mthethwa arrived at about 8 mosia at about 12..
Kusengwa ezimithiyo la
Shame. All this sergeants was constables at the time...And its so long ago...It's difficult to recall everything..Attorneys for defence having a field day.
This Case is very simple
Iyooo... the quality of our cops is embarrassing for such a high profile case. Imagine what we the unknown face.
So cops dont know what happened and submitted a docket to NPA to prosecute who is probably regretting now.
Hot question need people was in the house now this court will be eazy for all of them because they watch this court..now we will hear all lies the some thing police ans here they will do the something. An mshololo will have to becaful for them because to people was with senzo now they writing down now. An madam she is busy helping them to answer questions once they come in she is so happy to come to court because she knows she will try her best killy lawyer she busy with her clients now to respond to some of question will be repeat to them.Tt thobane he is wait right case to raise he s question to them.
I just hope that the defence will call these witnesses for cross examination
There seems to be inconsistencies but I am just certain that the police did their job on that night. This doesn't nullify the facts on the crime scene.
This SGT. Will be helpful if he just says things the way they happened...my question is; didn't he suspect any tempering of the crime scene?
Mshololo would make you cry. Whether you're a grown man. Uzo khala
uKhune uzikhulumela iqiniso nje ukt umuntu uyakhohlwa okunye ngoba mekhunjuzwa uyavuma
amanga awahlangani neqiniso, amanga ayakhohleka bt iqiniso alijiki limile nje njalo
Lobhuti uhubhuza uhubhu kaGcabashe ezenza uMgqumeni
Laphoke uzoth isigqoko safika nomakakelly esiphethe ngesandla evela edinning room wathi esabasolwa gwiqiqi cha akashongo wasikhomba siphansi kodwa sikuzwile lokho yhoo asinawo amaphoyisa esouth africa shame idomu ezinje amanga kulaba bobabili umosia wafika u12.00 ebusuku ngoba wayesacinga ikheli kodwa umamthethwa uthi wafika ngo10 kuya koleven ngoba wamshiya endlini esefile kudala 🙌🙌🙌🙌
State will not win this case. Contradictions after the other. Mosia must be recalled. He must come answer about his arrival and who came first between him and the police offices and between him and Ndlovu
Mthethwa failed to mention the 2 other police, not knowing that they made statements. Aaaii Mthethwa 🤔
Forgetting is nature
I disagree. He omitted as he was advised to do so.
Cellphone not cellphones🤣🤣🤣😂😂
Mthetwa! I don't think he learned anything from that crime. He wouldn't improve even if he had to attend to another tomorrow. He responds as if it was not his responsibility to do right on the crime scene. Saps needs to improve.
Moshololo is an expert.
Her habit of belittling witnesses eish!!!
It's a bit too much
Zyakhala nase Phoyiseni🤭🤭🤭🤭
When will the evidence that incriminates all 5 accused be presented before court
Is it even there? Lol
I think it was supposed to be the gun that was found in the possession of one of the Accussed as well as the planted hat
His bad attitude will get him in deep trouble
He start freezing and stuttering, and he just put Musia's testimony in deep trouble by saying Ndlovu was not there to show Musia the crime scene 😭😭
That's my worry as well
Very bad attitude and the Judge was supposed to remind long back that he is under oath and representing evidence from the SAP he is not there for himself of which he has rise temper
Nabanye bazsofunda isifundo ukudla imali yegazi akubuyiseli uzidonsela amashwa ziyakhala manje nisenkingeni imali niyidakiwe nafundusa izingane zenu izinqa zizovela obala
Ngwane, akho zinyane lemvubu ladliwa zingwenya kwacweba iziziba.
Ayikho impunga yehlathi, akukho okufihliwe okungayakuvela unkulunkulu unamandla okwenza konke coz konke kwavela ngaye.
uwunkulunkulu wezintandane uwunkulunkulu wabafelokazi, izingane, izingane zika Senzo zojabula ukuthola iqiniso kanjalo nomfazi wakhe nomama wakhe bayojabula ngeqiniso.
izinyembezi zabantu aziweli phansi.
Kusazoshuba ngyakutshela
Mshololo🐐🔥🔥🔥🔥😍🤗🤗🤗
Mthethwa is definitely from Zululand ,judging from his Zulu
Since when is a shooting not a crime
Pocket book mystery, some thing fishy. What is it that is hidden contained in the pocket book?
Am I the only one confused by the Interpreter,his accent sometimes turns to Cape coloured when speaking English, but then his Zulu is also on point,just curious.
why is the witness seem intimidated
Makhumalo is going to be receiving a subpoena.
Why he said they wete 2 kanti they were 4 Yoo!
What if they subpoenaed the other 4. Will the have different stories to tell. Eish these police.
Umthethwa kukhulu akwaziyo akufihlayo
Mshololo😍
2:10:00 ayi zyakhala🤞🏽🤞🏽
But why SA? What is it that Senzo had, how could he just die and no one be responsible. Why do you call Kelly, Makhumalo.
Makhumalo is Kelly's mom
KHUNE UGAXELE LANA🤣🤣🤣
Tampering and tampering is the only angle the defence.
Yoh yoh
Lo mthethwa uyena owantshontsha idoket😂😂😂
Kuyadlalwa manje
Mshololo🤙
SAPS if failing the Meyiwa fam
He had an attitude coming here, I wonder what happened, the SAPS’s representation is very poor, embarrassing if I may call it that
This guy is so defensive, I wonder what he is hiding.......
This people they no what exetly happen. But they got braeb
Sir I put it unto you was there people you saw in the house
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Imali gcwele emasendeni zinja zamapolice
Great Baloyi kept quiet all the way. Just one objection from him. 🤪
I don't think a police officer needs an interpreter
Another incompetent seargent or the cover up expose him as incompetent
SAPS ay guys 😂
Lotolika ukhuluma ngathi umumethe snemfu 🤮
😂😂😂
Hawu ke bakhithi, was that even necessary and how is it relevant to you 🚮🚮🚮
Ubasibhemayo yibo abasaziyo thina serious asikunakile lokho
Uzwakala kancono kunephoyisa. If the scene was tempered with, the end result will be that no visible evidence, book not found akunasiqiniseko sobufakazi and incompetent saps, theh could not rely on them since they are not trained investigators. Accuse 1 to 4 they need another intelligent advocate for going forward if we need good results
@@gladysmkhize4085 ungasho uliphinde
Why on earth are all SABC channels viewing this case. ? Surely they have capacity to broadcast content of note. How about farm murders ?
Thula bhunu ndini
Is ENCA also SABC ?
Ufuna ukuthini ?
Kiss the boer