Love listening to Ed Slott. Great video and content. One topic that wasn't covered is the impact of higher Medicare irmaa premiums when doing Roth conversions in the higher brackets. Would like to see more of these Q&A sessions with Ed!
Good video. I'm doing Roth Conversions for my child. Currently, since I'm still working, we are able to pay the taxes mostly with our income. Will do this as long as we can.
My Vanguard financial wealth management agent says only do this if you can pay the taxes out of your income. If you have to use your investment income to pay the taxes, that would mean that you are losing (in my case) about a 7% annual return on that money. In my case, a $40,000 conversion costs me about $4,800 in extra income taxes. I can't pay this out of my income, so I have to take it out of my Vanguard account. I'm in the 12% tax bracket. The future value of $4,800 at a 7% annual return over 20 years is approximately $18,574.49. That's how much I'm losing. Is it still worth it?
The question is whether Congress can resist screwing over Roth account holders. Balance limits with forced withdrawals and/or tax on “excessive” balances is being floated in the media. They could indirectly tax Roths by adding their distributions to income for SS taxation and IRMAA.
No mention of the 2 year look back for Medicare on one’s income. Any conversion, no matter how favorable it is individually, counts as income. If you go over the IRMAA income limits it costs more for monthly Medicare premiums for everyone in the household.
For higher income earners (right now, still working), you really think our tax bracket will be higher when we’re retired and only earning passive income? Intuitively, that makes zero sense to me.
If one converts 100% of their IRA to a Roth now, they pay 100% of the taxes immediately, at the dollars highest value, and lose the potential gains that would have come from the taxes-not-paid?
How and when does one pay the state income tax. I am assuming the payment to the IRS is just federal income tax. Or do both payments get made to the IRS.
Small taxes can affect investment decisions such as whether to choose tax-free municipal bonds over taxable bonds or do a Roth IRA conversion. I’ve been sitting on over $745K equity from a home sale and I want to invest on the stock market, how do I achieve this without being taxed twice?
The key to making sure this works for you is to pay the tax upon conversion from external funds and convert ALL the traditional IRA investment account to the Roth. 5:52
As of the date I'm writing this, neither Biden nor Trump want to raise taxes for the average taxpayer. So I'm not willing to bet that tax rates for me and other average Joes will be higher after 2025. But we won't know until the end of 2025 because Congress won't do anything before then.
Small taxes can affect investment decisions such as whether to choose tax-free municipal bonds over taxable bonds or do a Roth IRA conversion. I’ve been sitting on over $745K equity from a home sale and I want to invest on the stock market, how do I achieve this without being taxed twice?
Love listening to Ed Slott. Great video and content. One topic that wasn't covered is the impact of higher Medicare irmaa premiums when doing Roth conversions in the higher brackets. Would like to see more of these Q&A sessions with Ed!
Good video. I'm doing Roth Conversions for my child. Currently, since I'm still working, we are able to pay the taxes mostly with our income. Will do this as long as we can.
Thanks and I understand. Just hard to know that paying ~30% now, to convert, is good for me.
My Vanguard financial wealth management agent says only do this if you can pay the taxes out of your income. If you have to use your investment income to pay the taxes, that would mean that you are losing (in my case) about a 7% annual return on that money. In my case, a $40,000 conversion costs me about $4,800 in extra income taxes. I can't pay this out of my income, so I have to take it out of my Vanguard account. I'm in the 12% tax bracket. The future value of $4,800 at a 7% annual return over 20 years is approximately $18,574.49. That's how much I'm losing. Is it still worth it?
It's also a bet that Congress won't change the rules and subject Roth's to some level of taxation.
The question is whether Congress can resist screwing over Roth account holders. Balance limits with forced withdrawals and/or tax on “excessive” balances is being floated in the media. They could indirectly tax Roths by adding their distributions to income for SS taxation and IRMAA.
More Ed Slott please!!!!
Yes, more Ed Slott please.
How much of the IRA should you convert? 50% 80% 100% ?
No mention of the 2 year look back for Medicare on one’s income. Any conversion, no matter how favorable it is individually, counts as income. If you go over the IRMAA income limits it costs more for monthly Medicare premiums for everyone in the household.
Don't you have to wait 5 years before you can use that converted money?
How does living in CA affect these Roth Conversion examples? 9.3% State tax.
Great discussion 2 real experts
For higher income earners (right now, still working), you really think our tax bracket will be higher when we’re retired and only earning passive income? Intuitively, that makes zero sense to me.
Love this
How about 3% Annuities dump them that are not insured?
Would it make sense to convert to the top of the 24% bracket if you believe it will be the 25% tax bracket in 2026?
If one converts 100% of their IRA to a Roth now, they pay 100% of the taxes immediately, at the dollars highest value, and lose the potential gains that would have come from the taxes-not-paid?
Since I use my RMD for charity and don't pay tax on it, the Roth conversion seems less beneficial.
How and when does one pay the state income tax. I am assuming the payment to the IRS is just federal income tax. Or do both payments get made to the IRS.
Small taxes can affect investment decisions such as whether to choose tax-free municipal bonds over taxable bonds or do a Roth IRA conversion. I’ve been sitting on over $745K equity from a home sale and I want to invest on the stock market, how do I achieve this without being taxed twice?
The key to making sure this works for you is to pay the tax upon conversion from external funds and convert ALL the traditional IRA investment account to the Roth. 5:52
Is Roth conversion a good idea if you need to borrow money to pay the tax (for example, a home equity loan @ 8%)?
As of the date I'm writing this, neither Biden nor Trump want to raise taxes for the average taxpayer. So I'm not willing to bet that tax rates for me and other average Joes will be higher after 2025. But we won't know until the end of 2025 because Congress won't do anything before then.
Small taxes can affect investment decisions such as whether to choose tax-free municipal bonds over taxable bonds or do a Roth IRA conversion. I’ve been sitting on over $745K equity from a home sale and I want to invest on the stock market, how do I achieve this without being taxed twice?