@@dontaylor7315 The squad, and people like them, at large. If Nina knew what was good for her, she's put as much distance between herself and those ideologues as possible. Grievance ideology, intersectionality, is just ethno fascism with a pretty face. It might be wearing the hollow shell of marxism, but it's not categorically a left wing ideology. It's economically agnostic. One cannot truly serve two masters. You can be a principled leftist, or you can whine about race and gender, whine about how uniquely oppressed you are because of your identity, and be a massive, authoritarian bigot. Fascism is fully compatible with hyper capitalism, and "rainbow capitalism," the result of combining ethno fascism and laissez faire/social darwinist ideology, subverts the left by coopting their language and proceeding to divide them by ethnicity and gender. This is done precisely to gut traditional left wing theory, be it moderate Keynesian efforts, or full on socialists, of economic class concern, replacing it with identarian struggle, such that the lower and middle class are too busy punching sideways to join forces against the money and power. ...A side bonus is it's allowed them to basically push social darwinist policy on the public, without the stigma of such. It's a moral mask for robber baron ideology. They might never be as blatantly right wing as the neo-liberals, but people like Nina and AoC are effectively corporate sleeper agents. They're all a few silicon valley donations away from sabotaging any truly left wing efforts in government. Even if they're wary of corporate influence, there's dozens of race and gender obsessed NGOs that they can use as middlemen, effectively laundering the source of the influence. It's just more manufacturing of consent at the end of the day.
@@HaveYouTriedGuillotines Doesn't sound like Nina to me. Nor the Squad. They're solidly aligned against corporate ownership of government and that's my primary concern. The Green New Deal, Defund the Police and M4A don't seem like identity politics to me.
Progressives desperately need someone in congress to organize our members there and to inject them with a will to fight the corporate wing of the Dem party. I can't think of anyone who'd be better for that then Nina Turner, hope she goes for it
I want to root for her too. Cannot wait until she gets paid and her husband maybe a couple of aunties and a child or two. After one term she will be a millionaire and that is it. SOOOOOOOOOO easy pasie peasey.
@@PlanetCharnBaby Not supporting Trump doesn't make you a communist. Your views and if you wanna change our system of government, is what makes you a communist. But I have no idea who Turner is, never heard of her. But your comment was a childish way of thinking by how you phrased it. Biden isn't a communist, he's almost right wing, besides a few cultue issues. He just signed a unity platform with Communist, so he caught flak for it.
@@Xo-3130 I think you underestimate Nancy's ability to prevent the squad from doing a damn thing. She was guaranteed to be Speaker again anyway, because anyone who dares challenge her gets labeled "Sexist". So why pick a fight with a Speaker who is already inclined to shaft you?
And Mama Bear's little cub, AOC. I'm pretty darn tired of her mouth service and then she goes ahead and votes like a Republican anyway. Somebody who's an actual real progressive needs to push that squad left. she can say she's on the left because everybody is left of the far right. Everything out of that woman's mouth this week was about how we can't have M4A right now when that's exactly what we can do right now. If Mama Bear wants to get her seat as speaker of the house again, then only one voice has to say out loud, aside from Jimmy door, that we want to vote right now. And it doesn't matter that she thinks it won't win in the house. Because even if it doesn't pass in the house, it will be because Democrats who are supposedly progressives voted against it. And then we can get all of those Democrats who say that they're progressives on record voting against M4A like they will. Just so we know which side of the fence they're really on. But they won't because they're career politicians, not civil servants representing us. So yes we really need Nina Turner to work with Katie Porter who is the only real progressive in that whole squad.
@@joeterzio7175 a glance at your comment history shows what a toxic person truly looks like. In the spirit of this time of year, I hope you find peace.
To be honest I was a little bit disappointed because of the losses of Morse, Cisneiros, Eastman, Siegel... there is a lot of work to be done. Maybe I was a little bit overconfident that the Squads popularity would translate into more electoral successes. It's a shame some didn't make it. But at least now there is hope!
@@austinpearce5442 Jones is often not mentioned because he wasn't endorsed by justice democrats but by the Sunrise Movement. I personally don't know too much about him, but the interviews I watched with him were promising. And we shouldn't forget, that there are good politicians outside of the "Squad", that don't get as much media attention. Depending of your definition of the Squad he wouldn't even qualify for that. I personally would advise against making the assumption that only polticians who are considered part of the "Squad" are good ones. Raul Grijalva for example is a great poltician that is very progressive and endorsed by Justice Dems, yet he is not considered part of the "Squad", as is Ro Khanna. Deb Haaland or Katie Porter ar neither endorsed by Justice Dems nor considered part of the Squad but they are also great. At least as far as I can tell.
2018 was AOC, who’s fights on the inside and is more or less conciliatory. 2020 was Cory, who’s more outspoken, isn’t as scared to call out the dems and came from activism. 2022 will be Nina, and we will continue to push until AOC is seen as the moderate candidate
@@jamesleavenworth6447 AOC said she almost didn't run for re-election because of the pressure and intimidation she receives from establishment Dems. When have you ever seen progressive politicians play hardball for their endorsements or votes? That's the kind of fight I'm talking about.
@@rob2508 It can't get anymore corrupt, we're at rock bottom where it's completely exposed. Someone with her passion and integrity could only take it up or at least bring the energy needed to mainstream birth the People's Party. Time for the new energy to replace these dinosaurs who openly do not care.
@@rob2508 No chance of corruption, she'll undoubtedly run without selling a piece of her campaign to the corporations. That's why DC hates the Squad and it's why they'll hate Nina. Good! When the elites hate you you're doing something right.
What about Turners record makes you want to elevate her from former state Senator all the way to president? Personally, I love her and share her politics, but fear such a precipitous run would shorten her career. I think some seasoning as a National level Congresswoman would benefit her, and 8+ years from now, there will be many fewer racist boomers.
@@sswwooppee Many said the same thing about a little known state senator from Illinois with a strange name known as Barack Obama! Nina's advocacy and time with Bernie has equipped her in a special way for this fight!
Much as I hate to say it, I think that's a losing ticket. Nina is already an outspoken progressive candidate. I LOVE her, but we need to do Something to reassure centrist dems. Nina/AOC is too decisive of a ticket- everyone who strongly supports them would support them equally of it were either one, and AOC is still a bit young. That s without mentioning the dumb identity politics. If you want a powerhouse progressive ticket, Turner/Yang would be interesting. If you want the unity ticket, maybe Turner/Buttigeg. I get why progressives kinda hate Buttigeg, but he had a strong showing, and specifically with the people Nina is least likely to appeal to. He's also great at dismantling Republican talking points, and early on was willing to adopt progressive policy like M4A. He wrote a paper on why Bernie should be president for God's sake. He's a centrist-poster-child we could work with.
@@mjp121 Your whole argument is that people are too "dumb" to vote for your policies so they would vote for some centrist and then once he is in office you just tell him to vote for your policies to show the centrists that their vote was abused for your gain because you know better.
@@TheAndrewJohnBennett Is it? I thought my argument was that after upending the apple cart and nominating a strong progressive to the top of the ticket for the first time in my lifetime, it would behoove the left to offer an olive branch to the establishment/centrist side of the party by selecting a media darling as running-mate, or at least a well tolerated, different flavor of progressive. I'd really rather you didn't put words in my mouth or try to strawman me, it's really annoying.
@@mjp121 I think progressives are dead set against your particular choice for the centrist running mate. Buttigeig is despised for myriad reasons, including his attack on the idea of medicare for all, his blatantly racist running of his little town, and his attacks on Bernie Sanders and practically every position progressives have. He is not even someone progressives would settle for, let alone support. He’s a phony and an opportunist with no experience in government except for his failure as a small town mayor. His dishonesty is palpable. If you had chosen a centrist like Elizabeth Warren or a Libertarian like Andrew Yang you would probably not have had such a cool reception. But AOC is so popular among progressives that the very idea of that ticket pushes aside any notion of olive branches to the centrist Democrats. Having said that, I would be willing to entertain the idea of practically anyone as VP as long as we could have Nina as POTUS. Sadly, the “she’s a socialist” and “where’s her birth certificate” are already cued up on the teleprompters of the media darlings. But we can dream.❤️
@@grannypantsification Oh I get it. Buttigeg stands for nothing, and was instrumental in tearing Sanders down. The only candidates who made it to SC who I liked less were Klobuchar and Bloomberg. You may note I did suggest Yang, actually. I think you may be wrong about progressives being willing to take Warren over Buttigeg though- she's not a centrist, she's an establishment progressive... and to much of the Bernie left, I think the betrayal feels more real. Buttigeg never impressed me during the primary, but he's been fine since then, and again... I don't think he stands for much- he took damn near every possible position during the primary... but that means he is less likely to buck any POTUS, and the media Does love him. I'm also fond of his recent takedown on Fox regarding late term abortions... as it stands, I find him to be a cookie cutter career politician, but a charismatic one. Distasteful, but *useful*
She is not a Socialist. Do you support Medicare for All as proposed by Bernie Sanders bill? His M4A plan would expand and improve Medicare with no copays or deductibles.
@lies you Tell The progressives don't have any socialist proposals. Most of their policies are slightly to the right of Eisenhower. I wish they'd move left enough to get us closer to Scandinavia, which also isn't socialist but at least it's part of civilization. America's been absent from civilization too long.
Go go go Nina! Another name being floated here in Cleveland is former state senator and Cleveland city councilman Jeff Johnson, but Turner is the much better choice.
BJG was a lot more forceful in her criticisms of corporate Democrats and Biden even for that matter while she was still working in Bernie's campaign and now she is still putting them on blast. But like you said she does it nicely and with a smile.
She's brave black and progressive,and smart cares about people strong 💪💯. Any state should be proud that Nina Turner represent them it's simply a honor.
This a better place for her than VP. VP would be a dead end for someone like her. If she does the Nina thing in Congress she'll get a lot more visibility and popularity.
I hope there's a 2024 primary. If Biden runs again, it's not worth trying to oust him... but Kamala could be pushed out. The fear, then, is that people consider Turner too radical to beat Trump if he runs again- she's at Least as progressive as Bernie, and also would be the first woman president, and only second black president. It's a tall order to convince centrist Dems that the country isn't racist or sexist enough to disqualify her identity, particularly when she's not also an establishment candidate. Meanwhile, if Biden wins a second term, 2028 will be a tough year for any democratic candidate... Though maybe Nina could get her name out, like Bernie did in 2016.
@@mjp121 If you thought Biden gaffed in this cycle, imagine in 4 years. The guy truly needs to retire in 4 years, especially if hes forced to be a lame duck for four years
@@thejquinn it's not that I disagree, just... I don't believe an incumbent president will lose a primary, and if they do, the victor is unlikely to win in the general, as the party is likely very split. So I'm hoping Biden steps down willingly
@@mjp121 With the trajectory the country is on the people may be fine with a percueved "Radical" by 2024 because they'll be desperate for new energy. She has the raw energy to inspire people who will be down and out by then. No one trust, likes or is inspired by Kamala, and pretty sure Joe would not go a second term because it was states health wise a second term was unlikely by his people sometime during the election. Can she beat Trump, I don't know, but she can match him in fire and better person to go against him than Kamala. Yang would be great too.
Mama Bear will endorse whomever the establishment Democrats put up as their hand picked choice to replace the soon to be vacant Congress seat. We know that. We will see how long it takes for AOC to endorse Nina and I guess she is waiting for Bernie to do so first which will open the gates for other progressives to endorse Nina.
Hello somebody! Transformative movements always start with a small group of committed and determined people, add Nina to the growing Squad, and the Squad becomes a leverage between the moderate Dems and Repubs to pass legislation.
Nina Turner would be a firebrand!! She would have the fiery approach of Anthony Weiner on the floor with the strategic approach of Ted Kennedy in getting things done.
I took time out my day to stand in line and then write in "NINA TURNER" on my 2020 Virginia Presidential Ballot. And shout to Jimmy Dore!!! Movement for a People's Party!!!
If they are stupid enough to think they can field a candidate without dem support this party deserves to die quickly. The only productive thing a 3rd party can do without serious electoral reform is providing infrastructure, volunteers etc. for outcompeting people within the dem primary system. Everything beyond that is a pipe dream and will ultimatively doom any hope for serious change. Don't say I like that things are this way, just being pragmatic.
@@zuiop9993 I actually agree. Step one needs to be getting into local governments. Step two is building the Electoral infrastructure to make national moves viable. We can't go straight for the top and just hope for the best
@@zuiop9993 You do realize right that it is Independents who have no allegiance to either the Democrats or Republicans that are the largest voting bloc in America now? Then we have millennials who are the largest age demographic voting bloc. We also know poll after poll done shows that there is a big bloc of voters who want to see a viable third party emerge, being tired of only two choices every election cycle it comes down to a choice of "lesser of two evils". The People's Party is still forming and won't have their founding convention until 2021 but they are hardly naive about how the two party system has dominated the elections and they have people working for them who have worked in presidential elections before like Bernie's for example and they don't believe the Democrats or Republicans can be reformed.
Unlike some of these younger or less battle tested representatives, Senator Nina Turner is battle hardened in the political wars. She's an immediate figure to coalesce around, play some hard-ball cut-throat politics, and even challenge for some party leadership positions.
@@Ray-cn1yn "Too much of anything" as there are 190+ corporate sellouts and only 10ish New Deal Democrats... Tell me more, you don't sound biased at all. /s
@@Ray-cn1yn Riiiiiiiight, speaking truth is Bias now. Whatever makes you feel better at night neighbor. All I gotta do is look at voting records and campaign contribution records to see where people stand. But hey, you right, facts and truth are Bias in today's world. Thanks for letting us know which side you are on.
It would be very interesting to have Briahna and Zaid on a panel together to debate/discuss cancelling student loan debt and if that's disproportionally going to help the affluent, and if it's good politics
The problem with your statement is that Bernie does not have a bacbone , never has had, he capitulated to the democratic party and made everybody vote for a criminal like Joe Biden .
Please! We need people we can trust in the room.
Senator Turner is a ball of fire and we desperately need her in Congress.
☄️
Hell yeah.
It's a start. I want her in the White House.
Maybe for 2 years...but then it's Turner 2024!
She should run as the peoples party candidate!
I don’t know how to say it any more clearly than this but, RUN NINA RUN!!!!!!
Needs to be her Presidential slogan..."Run Nina Run."
Somebody please make the tshirt; I'll buy it
@Brandon Bernard your time is near the end hate kills
@Brandon Bernard well Texas did the right thing one less Trumpet.
Hell yes, we need more Nina
We need 300 more Ninas.
Yes, more intersectionalist trash to dilute the left and open a backdoor to corporate power.
@@HaveYouTriedGuillotines Who are you talking about??
@@dontaylor7315
The squad, and people like them, at large. If Nina knew what was good for her, she's put as much distance between herself and those ideologues as possible.
Grievance ideology, intersectionality, is just ethno fascism with a pretty face. It might be wearing the hollow shell of marxism, but it's not categorically a left wing ideology. It's economically agnostic.
One cannot truly serve two masters. You can be a principled leftist, or you can whine about race and gender, whine about how uniquely oppressed you are because of your identity, and be a massive, authoritarian bigot.
Fascism is fully compatible with hyper capitalism, and "rainbow capitalism," the result of combining ethno fascism and laissez faire/social darwinist ideology, subverts the left by coopting their language and proceeding to divide them by ethnicity and gender.
This is done precisely to gut traditional left wing theory, be it moderate Keynesian efforts, or full on socialists, of economic class concern, replacing it with identarian struggle, such that the lower and middle class are too busy punching sideways to join forces against the money and power.
...A side bonus is it's allowed them to basically push social darwinist policy on the public, without the stigma of such. It's a moral mask for robber baron ideology.
They might never be as blatantly right wing as the neo-liberals, but people like Nina and AoC are effectively corporate sleeper agents. They're all a few silicon valley donations away from sabotaging any truly left wing efforts in government. Even if they're wary of corporate influence, there's dozens of race and gender obsessed NGOs that they can use as middlemen, effectively laundering the source of the influence.
It's just more manufacturing of consent at the end of the day.
@@HaveYouTriedGuillotines Doesn't sound like Nina to me. Nor the Squad. They're solidly aligned against corporate ownership of government and that's my primary concern. The Green New Deal, Defund the Police and M4A don't seem like identity politics to me.
If she Runs I’m moving to Cleveland and knocking on doors for her.
HELLO SOMEBODY
LMAO I WISH I COULD 😩
Exactly!
@Street Buddha how is she a poor strategist?
@Street Buddha bro what, who would you support as a better strategist??
@Street Buddha Warren supporter? Nina's a legislator she'll be strong and committed. If Nina runs she'll knock it outta park.
Nina Turner will raise hell in congress, rooting for her.
Progressives desperately need someone in congress to organize our members there and to inject them with a will to fight the corporate wing of the Dem party. I can't think of anyone who'd be better for that then Nina Turner, hope she goes for it
Turner should run for president.
Love Nina Turner! I support her for Congress!!
I want to root for her too. Cannot wait until she gets paid and her husband maybe a couple of aunties and a child or two. After one term she will be a millionaire and that is it. SOOOOOOOOOO easy pasie peasey.
More like raise heaven* she's a real powerhouse of what's good against corruption. She won't be corrupted like the rest and that's why she's a threat
Congresswoman Nina Turner sounds a lot more promising as a primary candidate in 2024/2028 than former state senator
Exactly!
Nina versus Kamala?! God yes
@@JoycePinto she would tear Harris up
@@DD-wx4jc I just drooled over the thought of that.
Bingo!!! And if she's going against Kamala, no one can call us "racist bros" either! I'm all for it! Run Nina, run!!!
Brianna: this girl will reach the stars. She has everything a person needs to rise - looks, smarts, and eloquence.
I stan
We don't need any more communists in Congress. The Chinese have already bought the majority of sitting politicians.
@ "Everybody who doesn't support Trump is a Communist!"
You have no idea just how historically stupid you sound.
@@PlanetCharnBaby Not supporting Trump doesn't make you a communist. Your views and if you wanna change our system of government, is what makes you a communist. But I have no idea who Turner is, never heard of her. But your comment was a childish way of thinking by how you phrased it. Biden isn't a communist, he's almost right wing, besides a few cultue issues. He just signed a unity platform with Communist, so he caught flak for it.
LOL
While the house majority got smaller, "the squad" got larger. It's time to flex some muscle, the only thing standing in the way of progress is Pelosi.
(wo-)Mano y (wo-)Mano. Sell tickets,baby. This is going all twelve rounds!
They voted for the witch. The Squad are being transformed by the party.
@@Xo-3130 I think you underestimate Nancy's ability to prevent the squad from doing a damn thing. She was guaranteed to be Speaker again anyway, because anyone who dares challenge her gets labeled "Sexist". So why pick a fight with a Speaker who is already inclined to shaft you?
And Mama Bear's little cub, AOC.
I'm pretty darn tired of her mouth service and then she goes ahead and votes like a Republican anyway. Somebody who's an actual real progressive needs to push that squad left. she can say she's on the left because everybody is left of the far right. Everything out of that woman's mouth this week was about how we can't have M4A right now when that's exactly what we can do right now. If Mama Bear wants to get her seat as speaker of the house again, then only one voice has to say out loud, aside from Jimmy door, that we want to vote right now. And it doesn't matter that she thinks it won't win in the house. Because even if it doesn't pass in the house, it will be because Democrats who are supposedly progressives voted against it. And then we can get all of those Democrats who say that they're progressives on record voting against M4A like they will. Just so we know which side of the fence they're really on. But they won't because they're career politicians, not civil servants representing us. So yes we really need Nina Turner to work with Katie Porter who is the only real progressive in that whole squad.
Nina in Congress!!!! That’s a yes please!!!!!!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
WHATEVER ticket Nina is on....I am voting!
If not voting, then donating!
Briahna’s beautiful smile always always makes me smile.
Such a cutie pie.
She looks just like Sanaa Lathan.
It disguises the toxic person behind it.
@@joeterzio7175 a glance at your comment history shows what a toxic person truly looks like. In the spirit of this time of year, I hope you find peace.
She is gorgeous
Please get Nina in there, we need voices like her in power
AOC and the rest of the squad in 2018, Cori Bush, Jamaal Bowman, and Marie Newman in 2020, now Nina Turner in 2021? HELLO SOMEBODY!!!
To be honest I was a little bit disappointed because of the losses of Morse, Cisneiros, Eastman, Siegel... there is a lot of work to be done. Maybe I was a little bit overconfident that the Squads popularity would translate into more electoral successes. It's a shame some didn't make it. But at least now there is hope!
You forgot Mondaire Jones
@@austinpearce5442 Jones is often not mentioned because he wasn't endorsed by justice democrats but by the Sunrise Movement. I personally don't know too much about him, but the interviews I watched with him were promising. And we shouldn't forget, that there are good politicians outside of the "Squad", that don't get as much media attention. Depending of your definition of the Squad he wouldn't even qualify for that. I personally would advise against making the assumption that only polticians who are considered part of the "Squad" are good ones. Raul Grijalva for example is a great poltician that is very progressive and endorsed by Justice Dems, yet he is not considered part of the "Squad", as is Ro Khanna. Deb Haaland or Katie Porter ar neither endorsed by Justice Dems nor considered part of the Squad but they are also great. At least as far as I can tell.
@@zuiop9993 there's going to be losses, but we need to take the wins and use that template into future races.
We don't need any more communists in Congress. The Chinese have already bought the majority of sitting politicians.
Yes,👏 Yes,👏Yes 👏!!! Congress cannot handle Nina Turner. She would be a great congresswoman.
FACTS 👏🏾 Nina would DO THE DAMN THING 👏🏾
We need Nina in the Squad to give AOC and others the courage they need to fight!
2018 was AOC, who’s fights on the inside and is more or less conciliatory. 2020 was Cory, who’s more outspoken, isn’t as scared to call out the dems and came from activism. 2022 will be Nina, and we will continue to push until AOC is seen as the moderate candidate
@@catarinacampos690 it may be 2020 or 2021 for Nina. A special election will be necessary!
The others have plenty of fight in them but one more or 200 more is always welcome.
@@jamesleavenworth6447 AOC said she almost didn't run for re-election because of the pressure and intimidation she receives from establishment Dems. When have you ever seen progressive politicians play hardball for their endorsements or votes? That's the kind of fight I'm talking about.
Nina is a leader. The rest will follow once they see Nina standing up to the Nancy pelosi and the the rest
Nina is the person we were waiting for to lead us.
You mean to corrupt the USA even more
@@rob2508 It can't get anymore corrupt, we're at rock bottom where it's completely exposed. Someone with her passion and integrity could only take it up or at least bring the energy needed to mainstream birth the People's Party. Time for the new energy to replace these dinosaurs who openly do not care.
@@rob2508 No chance of corruption, she'll undoubtedly run without selling a piece of her campaign to the corporations. That's why DC hates the Squad and it's why they'll hate Nina. Good! When the elites hate you you're doing something right.
@@dontaylor7315 The squad sold out long ago, what are you talking about? I don't even know who Turner is.
You mean *represent* us.
Nina is so awesome! I'm so glad that Krystal and Brianna agree with and are pushing for Jimmy's plan
Nina turner is my president, she represents me TURNER2024
What about Turners record makes you want to elevate her from former state Senator all the way to president? Personally, I love her and share her politics, but fear such a precipitous run would shorten her career. I think some seasoning as a National level Congresswoman would benefit her, and 8+ years from now, there will be many fewer racist boomers.
@@sswwooppee Many said the same thing about a little known state senator from Illinois with a strange name known as Barack Obama! Nina's advocacy and time with Bernie has equipped her in a special way for this fight!
Senator Turner would make a fantastic congresswoman. This warms my stone cold leftist heart lol
If she runs I’m donating immediately
I swore I would never donate to any pol again after Bernie, but for Nina, yes I would and will💕
Dude same. Where the website. Take my money
@@carmelsileo6520 me too! Bernie was the one and only politician that I ever gave too. Nina would be the 2nd!
@@lastaviusdarby7894 Yes, finally something to hope for! And unlike Bernie, I think Nina will fight fire 🔥 with fire.
@@caral8842 😂🔥🌹
Speaker of the House Nina Turner
Amen
Be still my heart!
Oooooo that sounds so good, doesn't it!?
President Nina Turner.
Yass!
Nina TurnUp Lets Go!!!!!!!!
I LOVE this!
l luv that too!
If nina runs i will be so happy and help any way i can. She's the kind of visionary we need.
Lets get ready to donate and phonebank.
@@obedirect5491 she’s running!
Turner and AOC for 2024. The Golden Ticket to turn around America and lead the way in saving the planet.
Much as I hate to say it, I think that's a losing ticket. Nina is already an outspoken progressive candidate. I LOVE her, but we need to do Something to reassure centrist dems. Nina/AOC is too decisive of a ticket- everyone who strongly supports them would support them equally of it were either one, and AOC is still a bit young. That s without mentioning the dumb identity politics. If you want a powerhouse progressive ticket, Turner/Yang would be interesting. If you want the unity ticket, maybe Turner/Buttigeg. I get why progressives kinda hate Buttigeg, but he had a strong showing, and specifically with the people Nina is least likely to appeal to. He's also great at dismantling Republican talking points, and early on was willing to adopt progressive policy like M4A. He wrote a paper on why Bernie should be president for God's sake. He's a centrist-poster-child we could work with.
@@mjp121 Your whole argument is that people are too "dumb" to vote for your policies so they would vote for some centrist and then once he is in office you just tell him to vote for your policies to show the centrists that their vote was abused for your gain because you know better.
@@TheAndrewJohnBennett Is it? I thought my argument was that after upending the apple cart and nominating a strong progressive to the top of the ticket for the first time in my lifetime, it would behoove the left to offer an olive branch to the establishment/centrist side of the party by selecting a media darling as running-mate, or at least a well tolerated, different flavor of progressive. I'd really rather you didn't put words in my mouth or try to strawman me, it's really annoying.
@@mjp121 I think progressives are dead set against your particular choice for the centrist running mate. Buttigeig is despised for myriad reasons, including his attack on the idea of medicare for all, his blatantly racist running of his little town, and his attacks on Bernie Sanders and practically every position progressives have. He is not even someone progressives would settle for, let alone support. He’s a phony and an opportunist with no experience in government except for his failure as a small town mayor. His dishonesty is palpable.
If you had chosen a centrist like Elizabeth Warren or a Libertarian like Andrew Yang you would probably not have had such a cool reception. But AOC is so popular among progressives that the very idea of that ticket pushes aside any notion of olive branches to the centrist Democrats. Having said that, I would be willing to entertain the idea of practically anyone as VP as long as we could have Nina as POTUS.
Sadly, the “she’s a socialist” and “where’s her birth certificate” are already cued up on the teleprompters of the media darlings. But we can dream.❤️
@@grannypantsification Oh I get it. Buttigeg stands for nothing, and was instrumental in tearing Sanders down. The only candidates who made it to SC who I liked less were Klobuchar and Bloomberg. You may note I did suggest Yang, actually. I think you may be wrong about progressives being willing to take Warren over Buttigeg though- she's not a centrist, she's an establishment progressive... and to much of the Bernie left, I think the betrayal feels more real. Buttigeg never impressed me during the primary, but he's been fine since then, and again... I don't think he stands for much- he took damn near every possible position during the primary... but that means he is less likely to buck any POTUS, and the media Does love him. I'm also fond of his recent takedown on Fox regarding late term abortions... as it stands, I find him to be a cookie cutter career politician, but a charismatic one. Distasteful, but *useful*
I support Nina running for anything in government!
Me too, she has my support no matter what official office she runs for.
Democratic r Republican
Nina Turner would hit Congress like a meteor.
Boom bitches
And hopefully she would wreck all the dinosaurs there too.
So will Corey Bush and Jamal Bowman. Now we need 200 more of them in Congress.
@@MDJButcher damn
Yeah she would.
The first positive thing I've seen all day, Nina Turner yes. Jimmy Dore on rising will be interesting.
I'll hard pass on dimmy bores yelling that early in the morning.
I'll very hard not pass on big JD on rising
Different strokes for different folks. I like Jimmy boy. I can understand why people may not like him. I'm cool with that, we are all different.
Jimmy has been on Rising before. I like Jimmy's ideas, but he's going to give himself a heart attack. Thank god he smokes pot.
@@tvallejo1922 100% truth
Ohioain here and this is exactly what we need to move ohio away from the disgusting jim Jordan's out there
By the Gods I would love to see Nina Turner win.
She is not a Socialist. Do you support Medicare for All as proposed by Bernie Sanders bill? His M4A plan would expand and improve Medicare with no copays or deductibles.
@lies you Tell The progressives don't have any socialist proposals. Most of their policies are slightly to the right of Eisenhower. I wish they'd move left enough to get us closer to Scandinavia, which also isn't socialist but at least it's part of civilization. America's been absent from civilization too long.
@lies you Tell you speaking a bunch of bullshit propaganda
If Nina's in congress, she'll be my number 1.
Bless BJG for highlighting Jimmy Dore's idea to leverage Pelosi's speakership to push for M4A.
Go go go Nina! Another name being floated here in Cleveland is former state senator and Cleveland city councilman Jeff Johnson, but Turner is the much better choice.
She would be able to throw down the gauntlet on justice issues better than just about anyone in Congress.
Jeff who? Sorry I'm not fro Ohio.
Jimmy Dore!!! Nice to see you guys remember him!
Wow BJG is skilled. Never heard anyone say that Bernie failed at his own ideology more nicely than she just did lol.
BJG was a lot more forceful in her criticisms of corporate Democrats and Biden even for that matter while she was still working in Bernie's campaign and now she is still putting them on blast.
But like you said she does it nicely and with a smile.
She's brave black and progressive,and smart cares about people strong 💪💯. Any state should be proud that Nina Turner represent them it's simply a honor.
I am having such a crap day but man does the idea of this put smile on my face.
honestly wanted her to run for pres but this is good too. we must get her elected!
That could be a way to raise her national profile (outside lefty circles) for a future run
She’ll need to win a smaller race first. (Even tho Pete can be the mayor of a college town and the media will say he’s perfectly qualified)
The WORLD needs Nina in congress! I hope she runs and makes it!
Yes yes yes!!!! Run Nina Run💜💕💕💕💜💜🌹🌹🌹🏃🏃
“Some commentators” is Jimmy Dore! Shout out Jimmy Dore!!!!!!
as a constituent of OH-11, senator nina turner 100% has my vote!
Dunno if DC's ready but out here in real America WE'RE ready!
Jimmy adore👏 can’t wait
All I wanna hear Nina say is, "Ready or not, here I come!"
This a better place for her than VP. VP would be a dead end for someone like her. If she does the Nina thing in Congress she'll get a lot more visibility and popularity.
Dick Cheney says hi ;)
@@interdimensionalsteve8172 that's fair, but you do get weirdoes in every bunch.
Yes! And then she can primary Kamala in 2024 lol.
I hope there's a 2024 primary. If Biden runs again, it's not worth trying to oust him... but Kamala could be pushed out. The fear, then, is that people consider Turner too radical to beat Trump if he runs again- she's at Least as progressive as Bernie, and also would be the first woman president, and only second black president. It's a tall order to convince centrist Dems that the country isn't racist or sexist enough to disqualify her identity, particularly when she's not also an establishment candidate. Meanwhile, if Biden wins a second term, 2028 will be a tough year for any democratic candidate... Though maybe Nina could get her name out, like Bernie did in 2016.
@@mjp121 If you thought Biden gaffed in this cycle, imagine in 4 years. The guy truly needs to retire in 4 years, especially if hes forced to be a lame duck for four years
@@thejquinn it's not that I disagree, just... I don't believe an incumbent president will lose a primary, and if they do, the victor is unlikely to win in the general, as the party is likely very split. So I'm hoping Biden steps down willingly
@@mjp121 With the trajectory the country is on the people may be fine with a percueved "Radical" by 2024 because they'll be desperate for new energy. She has the raw energy to inspire people who will be down and out by then. No one trust, likes or is inspired by Kamala, and pretty sure Joe would not go a second term because it was states health wise a second term was unlikely by his people sometime during the election. Can she beat Trump, I don't know, but she can match him in fire and better person to go against him than Kamala. Yang would be great too.
Nina in the house could help keep 'the squad' on track, and keep them honest. *cough cough* Ayanna Pressley.
I pray she runs. She's for the people.
There's A lot of exciting changes going on. It's a nice breath of fresh air
Bring back Nina Turner on this show, please! Would love to see BJG and Nina both on!
I hope aoc has the courage to fully endorse Nina Turner and not wait for her mama bear to tell her its ok.
Mama Bear will endorse whomever the establishment Democrats put up as their hand picked choice to replace the soon to be vacant Congress seat. We know that. We will see how long it takes for AOC to endorse Nina and I guess she is waiting for Bernie to do so first which will open the gates for other progressives to endorse Nina.
@@kekwayblaze3176 Bernie endorsed her almost immediately
Nina Turner ❤❤❤❤❤❤🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I shippppp this with all my heart ❤️
In a world that wasn't upside down, Nina Turner would be speaker of the house or the VP-elect.
VP elect with president elect Sanders.
IDC if DC is ready, the world is ready!
Nina Turner 2024!
Always a great segment when Brianna is on!
And how fabulous when the topic is the amazing Nina!
Win-win 🙌
I like Nina the most because she's a strong fighter. Andrew Yang would make a great vice president for her.
Nina be a great VP for Tulsi. They are friends. MCSC Niko House has their recent podcast convo his page.
You best believe I will be donating to Nina Turner's campaign---Hello, somebody!!!!!
this gave me life!
seeing Briahna say "i'm old enough to remember..."....darn, she's cute.
Hello somebody! Transformative movements always start with a small group of committed and determined people, add Nina to the growing Squad, and the Squad becomes a leverage between the moderate Dems and Repubs to pass legislation.
Really, really hoping this happens! Nina Turner is an incredible leader and would be a true voice of morality and justice in the House
Don't do it, Nina! Keep your independence outside the party.
I love Nina. I trust her. And that's saying something.
Looking forward to you having Jimmy Dore on. And you need to run Hello Somebody.
I'm setting donation money aside, in case she runs!
Nina Turner would be a firebrand!! She would have the fiery approach of Anthony Weiner on the floor with the strategic approach of Ted Kennedy in getting things done.
Keep weiners out of this.
I took time out my day to stand in line and then write in "NINA TURNER" on my 2020 Virginia Presidential Ballot. And shout to Jimmy Dore!!! Movement for a People's Party!!!
PLEASE! We need more REAL in Washington! 🙏🔥
Who cares if congress is ready for her, we're ready for her!
Loved how I got a Nina Tuner ad before watching this
Nina needs to get with MPP PEOPLES PARTY. Screw the Dems
If they are stupid enough to think they can field a candidate without dem support this party deserves to die quickly. The only productive thing a 3rd party can do without serious electoral reform is providing infrastructure, volunteers etc. for outcompeting people within the dem primary system. Everything beyond that is a pipe dream and will ultimatively doom any hope for serious change. Don't say I like that things are this way, just being pragmatic.
@@zuiop9993 I actually agree. Step one needs to be getting into local governments. Step two is building the Electoral infrastructure to make national moves viable. We can't go straight for the top and just hope for the best
@@zuiop9993 I hear you, that’s why we must get to work.
She is already part of the ppl movement..
@@zuiop9993 You do realize right that it is Independents who have no allegiance to either the Democrats or Republicans that are the largest voting bloc in America now?
Then we have millennials who are the largest age demographic voting bloc.
We also know poll after poll done shows that there is a big bloc of voters who want to see a viable third party emerge, being tired of only two choices every election cycle it comes down to a choice of "lesser of two evils".
The People's Party is still forming and won't have their founding convention until 2021 but they are hardly naive about how the two party system has dominated the elections and they have people working for them who have worked in presidential elections before like Bernie's for example and they don't believe the Democrats or Republicans can be reformed.
Sister Joy looks astonishing.
Great point and could not be more excited about Sister Turner. 🖖🏾
Simply put, they are not prepared. That is why we must make it happen. Where do i send my donation to?
1:47 "I'm old enough to remember when AOC was still running.."
Woaw, Briahna, you're even older than I am, and I wouldn't say that.
Unlike some of these younger or less battle tested representatives, Senator Nina Turner is battle hardened in the political wars. She's an immediate figure to coalesce around, play some hard-ball cut-throat politics, and even challenge for some party leadership positions.
Turner would bump heads with AOC and the other up and coming progressives trying to out progress each other. Too much of anything can be bad.
@@Ray-cn1yn You realize their joined at the hip on every issue. It increases their forces .
@@Ray-cn1yn "Too much of anything" as there are 190+ corporate sellouts and only 10ish New Deal Democrats... Tell me more, you don't sound biased at all. /s
@@lord6617 It's not biased but reality. Obviously you're the biased one calling people corporate sellouts.
@@Ray-cn1yn Riiiiiiiight, speaking truth is Bias now. Whatever makes you feel better at night neighbor. All I gotta do is look at voting records and campaign contribution records to see where people stand. But hey, you right, facts and truth are Bias in today's world. Thanks for letting us know which side you are on.
Huzzah! You heard us on Jimmy Dore excited to see him on.
Nina would be so amazing. We need more strong voices in congress, Nina is a genuine leader.
I'm ready for her to be in DC!
Stories like this is the exact reason why I watch and preach this channel
If they send Nina Turner to the Congress! Oh man!!!! I would be thrilled!
*Insert fry meme* if she runs, I will give what I can! Run girl run! You got this!
Can't wait to hear Nina in Congress, "with these hands"! When she speaks you have to listen!
Hello Somebody! Run, Nina please!
We the people are ready. Long time coming.
Nina please run. This would be big and set the stage for 2022.
It would be very interesting to have Briahna and Zaid on a panel together to debate/discuss cancelling student loan debt and if that's disproportionally going to help the affluent, and if it's good politics
I'd contribute to a Turner campaign...!
LOL at that headline "Turner eyes Fudge seat"
Keep pushing Nina!!!
Nina will have my Ohio vote!
PLEASE Run for Office, Briahna!!
Hell yea! I hope she runs for president in 2024. She gets my vote. :)
Briahna Joy Gray is awesome. That is all.
Briahna is one of my FAVORITE people in the world 😍💙
Yes we are ready for her
Nina is like Bernie with a backbone, lol. I can’t see her “playing nice” with Pelosi. She would be a game changer.
The problem with your statement is that Bernie does not have a bacbone , never has had, he capitulated to the democratic party and made everybody vote for a criminal like Joe Biden .
She seems like she cares, that is great
Nina Turner can help us all navigate this moment as a leader that WE are starving for. Shhh. Wait until Fudge is officially nominated.
Gives us hope!!!