Tesla Yoke Revisited after 3 Months
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 พ.ย. 2021
- We give an update on our how the yoke is going after 3 months of use. We point out the good, not so good, and whether Tesla was right to include it.
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It's just a fact of life. The horn on a vehicle is a "Panic Button" of sorts. It's been that way since the beginning of automobiles. Tesla needs to stay with that concept and put the horn activation back as the center of accessibility. As with many Tesla owners, my Tesla is not my only vehicle I drive. I need consistency here!
I agree that the horn should be in the center. But just know… Tesla is NOT the only car that has the horn in a different spot. My old dodge intrepid had two button.
QUIT HONKING AT PEOPLE!!!
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The original roadsters used a button on the edge of the wheel just like today's Plaid. Same deal with some other makes of cars. Not very unusual.
But in recent history, so many cars did not have the horn in the center, and they never complained. Why complain about it now? Too much soy in the diet?
🤦♂️ you all are forgetting something extremely important: THE PATHWAY OF THE AIRBAG. TESLA has it right with the horn NOT being in the center hub
I had a friend cancel his plaid order recently after trying it out with another car. The yoke is cool to some degree, but I think Tesla should have made it a option. When your spending 150k I guess you can be more picky.
That's fair, hopefully he can give it another try in thr future.
It’s so fucking stupid and dangerous. Regulators should have stepped in. “You just have to let go of the wheel.” How is that OK?
You can easily buy a round Tesla steering wheel and replace it.
@@CYAnomo Really ?? That easy ??
And where do you get the 2 required stalks, since those functions are on the YOKE??
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@@CYAnomo i want to see someone do that
“The more I drive it the more I get used to it”. And “hurdle” is not the experience I want when driving a car.
That's fair, but until you drive it you won't truly understand. They've prioritized highway driving over parking lot maneuvering with the yoke. In that regard the yoke is superior to the wheel on Highways and straight driving.
After driving my Plaid for nearly a year, yoke needs improvements, 1) turn signals n emergency lights should relocate to both thumb tips or index tips at back of handle ber, double press for blinks. 2) horn button should go back to traditional center 3) steering yoke could shrink size by 2 inches, lower right corner blocks lower left screen a bit 4) eliminate lower horizontal bar cuz they do noting
I'm with you.. The horn is the biggest thing that bothers me by far. Adjusting to the rest of it was pretty quick. The most annoying part about the horn is that the "button" that you'd usually think to use is still there staring you in the face, but it doesn't do anything.
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Yeah, the turn signals and horn is a issue. Indication to where you plan to move in traffic with turn signals is important to let others around you know where you want to go. Also the horn is a way to communicate to other's around you regarding thing's such as an emergency situation or to warn someone that you in there general space of driving.
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Haven’t had any problems adjusting to yoke, from day one. Didn’t expect to like it. Now I do.
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Y’all are lying , don’t hit anyone or have an accident... smh just straight up lying. Like what happens in an emergency situation... nope lying
@@LafemmebearMusic yes, you caught me. I lied because Elon pays me to. Model X, Model S, Model S Plaid, Cyber Truck, Roadster…all with the yoke. Must make you even angrier than your last post to know that.
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Great video! Very informative!
Great follow-up video!!! Outside of the audio, fantastic production too. Thank you.
Yeah bad mic placement
Audio seemed fine to me, I thought it was great. Maybe I missed something
It's impossible not to break the law when using this in Europe, where we have so many runabouts. It's also dangerous, and you risk having someone run into you because you can't fund the button to signal out of the runabout in time. It's extremely confusing when you're in the middle of a steep turn and need to blink one way or the other, but the buttons keep shifting positions depending on the angle of the yoke, and sometimes they will be upside down and "reversed" even..
It won't allow you to use muscle memory.. When, in a turn, you have to keep looking down instead of on the road, which is not safe.
Tesla has so many great innovations, but this is not one of them..
They should just use stocks, or place like the indicators on paddles on the back of the Yoke(maybe one on which side, and just place the Horn back where it belongs.
Also, the inconsistency with the Symbols, why there is a autopilot Symbol, where it's not a button, but nothing for the left wheel about the music ...
i just test drove a plaid. In switzerland we have a lot roundabouts… if you are in the roundabout and you want to exit it.. you dont know where the turn signal is because its moving with the wheel… i wanted a model S so bad but this is a big showstopper for me..
Adjusting to the yoke itself only took a few days. However, I still dislike the signal and horn buttons. For the signals, I would prefer an upwards swipe motion for a right turn and a downwards swipe for a left. Either that or have the the signal buttons on each side of the yoke. And the horn should have just had a normal placement in the center like other cars.
Great review, I came to this video just now after I found out the Cybertruck was only going to be fitted with the yoke as I was considering cancelling my reservation, but think I’ll stick it out now, very informative thank you
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Thanks for the update, i do hope to update to the Model S in the future
I like how your channel has grown, keep it up \G/
Nice video, great background. Thanks for the information.
Thanks for watching
Very nice review on the yoke! This reminds me of Knight Rider with KITT being fitted with a yoke. As cool as it looks, I think the yoke is a bad idea. They are better suited for F1 cars and airplanes where steering is rather limited but for daily driving cars there are potentially dangerous.
There are two reasons (as well as concerns) as to why the yoke is dangerous. First, imagine driving on the street one day and you accidentally hit a pothole and the impact forces your hands to slide up and the next second your hands are grasping at air? You could easily lose control and get into an accident. At least with a steering wheel you can lose your grip but quickly regain control because it is round, however, you can't do that with a yoke. Second, imagine you're driving and suddenly another car abruptly and unexpectedly pulls up in front of you at the last minute, coming from nowhere and you had merely seconds to perform the hand-over-hand maneuver in order to avoid a collision. If you have the yoke you will instinctively attempt to perform the hand-over-hand maneuver, only to find that there is no wheel at the top and before you know it, you're in a car crash.
There is a reason why the steering wheel has been around for over 100 years, it's extremely effective. Besides, I like the sensation of having a steering wheel slide through my hands, it's kind of seductive! 😆😆😆 You can't do that with a yoke! 😉
I like Elon Musk and admire his accomplishments, and I encourage innovation, but with the yoke he is wrong. Plus, those buttons on the yoke are cumbersome, especially the placement of the horn, it needs to be redesigned and placed on the center of the wheel.
Anyway, I very much enjoyed your review. I look forward to seeing more of your videos! You just earned a new subscriber and friend! 🙂 By the way, you have an awesome voice! Are you a professional voice over actor?
Easter egg O_O?
The way you downplay some
features is good especially the horn. I have honked three times already in three days since I got it. I have to back out of driveway three to five times a day on a busy road. I have to do it quick. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Hope I get used to it before I get into an accident. Wish I can speak like you.
Was gonna do an after market yoke. Still gives you the stalks and normal horn. Great video
The problem with the yoke and stalks is that the yoke presents wider than a wheel so hitting the stalk could be problematic depending on the length of the stalk
Outstanding presentation!
Thank you
Make the horn button a wildcard button that is programable. The horn should be where the horn has been for the last 100+ years!
Thanks for the video. Not sure if you mentioned this in your other videos. Did you get any ppf or ceramic coating on your Plaid?
Yes both! Helps keep the black as clean as possible (for black) but also easier to clean
5:49. In an emergency situation, the center hub of the steering wheel is the LAST place you want your hand because it’s IN THE PATHWAY OF THE AIRBAG. Where Tesla has the horn button is the safest place. Tesla has since updated it to if you press the right side of the yoke with your cupped hand it will also sound the horn.
In the one accident I was in I didn't reach for the horn, I was death gripping at 10 and 2. If you have time to hit the horn you probably have time to avoid the accident altogether.
The matte finish around the “buttons” on the yoke seem to show oil and fingerprints easily. Do you think the frequently touched parts will start to leave a shine over time?
Good question, yes it shows oil easily but I think over time it won't be shiny but rather darker than the rest of the wheel due to thr oil setting in.
I’m still curious as to why they didn’t use the center of the yoke. Just received my Plaid and I’ve watched all your videos. Love them!
Congrats on the Plaid! I have no clue why they didnt add it to the center.
I know someone who got into an accident from a Model S Plaid owner due to not being able to swerve due to half the wheel being gone. Its an extreme safety hazzard. Sure you can get an aftermarket wheel for 3K but still.
Its the exact reason I went with the Y over the X.
That Yoke should not be on the road.
Yoke CAN be a Hazard but not a guaranteed hazard. I think Tesla should include some training or guidance because there is a learning curve and an unlearned curve.
@@BlackTesla its a gurarenteed hazzed if your not a race driver. If it pulls to hard during a spin out you will break your arm.
Like I said ive seen accidents due to the yoke alone. Its a horrible design
Great videos and detailed info!
Now that you have come accustomed to using the yoke and know it's pluses & minuses would you stay with the yoke or opt for Tesla retrofit round steering wheel? I notice that the yoke is wider at the bottom than the round wheel, it seems to protrude more into the bottom of the center screens visibility but the round wheel will protrude slightly into the upper portion of the screens visibility as well. What are your thoughts? Thank you
I'm sticking with the yoke. The wheel is round and since you still have the capacitive buttons you'll wind up holding it the same way as the yoke
great review
Thankfully Tesla has brought back the steering wheel and made it the default option. Tesla has clearly heard many complaints
I dunno, seems like the only people complaining are people who haven't gotten the car. The ones that have adapted pretty easily mostly. I suspect it had more to do with regulations in Europe China and other countries abroad that forced the change.
The yoke is really good, the only problem is:
When Parking, the turning signals in the round abouts, the square form in the bottom, the horn, the haptic buttons, the self drive and the yoke itself, but is really good
The indicators would bother me so much. I appreciate Tesla’s opting for a clean, minimalist look but you have to retain good functionality as well
I’m a one hand driver . I drive with my left hand on top of the steering wheel. Do you recommend the Yolk or the traditional steering wheel for my type of driving. Hood driving lol
Good videos In your opinion do you think Tesla recall for upgraded brakes or do u think they’re just fine for daily use
They are fine for daily use just not for performance or high speeds and turning so track driving.
If someone offered me a kit that gave me a Model 3 wheel and stalks for $2000, I'd gladly pay it.
Very professional channel.
Thank you!
Yoke feels you are driving special car The fastest production car in the world. Makes me smile driving the plaid
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Great review! Observations are spot on. Also, you are a great driver!
Thank you
Great coverage on this topic. My problem is not with the yoke but the safety hazards which you mentioned. The loss of functionality of the horn, turn signals and wipers mid-turn are safety hazards that will almost certainly lead to causing loss of life in the aggregate. I can't understand why a company that prides itself on safety would be so reckless while adding negligible benefits.
Agreed. I think they just tried to be too forward thinking and rushed it out the door. I do think it can be fixed but they need to prioritize it.
Aren't the wipers automatic?
Well done especially since you have a MX round wheel for comparison!
Appreciate it
I got checking the steer wheel of my new 2022 Model 3 and ....no holes in the back of it (for disengaging the airbag). Might there be a template I can apply to accurately drill or perhaps some other way for an accurate drill hole(s) ?
I'm not sure, check the manual first before attempting though.
Thanks for the video. I am switching to yoke just bc what you said and round wheel blocking the screen areas. Also, good point on button and how you would hold the wheel by the sides while driving anyway (except doing 180 turns)
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I’m waiting for my model x plaid , what I see on your wheel , marks on buttons when you always press it, and it’s only 3 months use , I’m scare what happens after year two . What do you think about any protective film for wheel some thing similar for screen ?
Congrats on the Plaid X. The surface is a matte black so oil wipes right off, and I hadn't cleaned it in a while so it's shows. Easy enough to just wipe off.
Let’s talk about the front license plate frame still there! Haha kidding aside, good video man!
🤣 that was when we first got it and in our intro, it's been gone check out our Software update video.
best turorial so far
Thank you
The swipe for gear is fine.
People talk about better visibility, but you loose that as soon as you turn the yoke. When you turn it 180 degrees it blocks more than a normal wheel. The yoke belongs in sport cars like Tesla Roadster etc, but in a terrain vehicle like Cybertruck, it's very stupid.
The Yoke still has too many problems, i will reject it. It should only be an option on Tesla, not standard. I prefer the Model 3/Y steering-system. If the yoke can be swapped to that, i will.
Great review. Most reviews intentionally make the yoke excessively awkward.
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Can you drive in reverse mad max style with the yoke. Head looking back arm over the passenger seat one hand on yoke? This is an important skill.
Can you do a video on active noise cancellation? Thanks!
We can when it's active I don't think the update has come out for this yet.
Just a question can that yoke be added to the new highland model3 stear by wire system
Highland 3 doesn't have steer-by-wire. Cybertruck should have it.
The stalks and center horn are simply too basic to driving to give up to save a few parts and a few bucks on a car. Maybe some day when the car drives itself, always and totally, that can be revisited, but by then we will be getting rid of the entire steering assembly. There's no way I can drive that without turn signals on a stalk through roundabouts and complex left, right turning situations in dense, urban situations.
I think it would have been better if there was a button on the back of the yoke (like a game controller has a finger trigger) to use for turn signals or the horn. Large enough where its easy to find no matter what the position of the wheel is in.
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I think it would be better if they just went with a wheel.
Enjoyed the vid! I liked how you showed that with some practice, the yoke and the shifting approach can work from a practical standpoint - unlike the clownish antics in the Edmund's reviews and others. My opinion is that physical gear shifters and stalks aren't necessarily sacred in an EV - especially with everything controlled by software in the vehicle. There are other ways to get the job done!
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There are other ways to get the job done, but if it requires your visual attention when you could do it by feel and muscle memory alone, it's NOT a _better_ solution. For example, I don't actually look at my shift lever or signal stalk when shifting or driving, allowing my visual attention to stay on the road.
Alternately, you can activate the horn by pressing the heel of your hand against all of the buttons on the right side of the yoke. It'a an easier maneuver to do in an emergency situation.
Do you mean the palm of your hand?
@@Mr_Battlefield Either one would work.
I have not been able to do this successfully and consistently. But will try again. Also, I found myself engaging TACC when pressing the palm of my hand over that side of the wheel as its the most pronounced button.
Great video!! Looks like a Tesla commercial
Thank you 👍🏾
Advanced car control courses teach holding the wheel at 10 to 2. It’s not even possible with this thing. Even the leverage is bad with hands lower. 100% form over function. Try catching a slide with this thing…
They teach 9 and 3 now mostly due to airbags.
I like it very much
Nice
Best yoke review so far. I hope Tesla or Elon himself may see this.
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I have been waiting for the round steering wheel option for awhile, but will the horn be in the center? Now I'll order my MSP! If I was forced to buy it with only the yoke I would have but now I don't have to... I just noticed this in the configurator today 1/6/23, hope they add the Power Frunk soon as well, maybe better brakes, suspension & handling, longer range, HW4+Radar. Wish wish wish…
OR I can order a MSP with the yoke then after delivery I can order the retrofit round steering wheel and have Tesla Service install it for a total of $700! Then I can swap between the two whenever I want and have the best of both worlds. Decisions, decisions...
I think cars with the yoke should have variable ratio steering racks linked to speed to limit the amount the yoke turns at slow speed manoeuvring? I remember reading somewhere that Elon said it was a few years away and costly.
Yes exactly costly and would take time to implement but I cant imagine the maneuvering the cyber truck with the current ratio.
@@BlackTesla I believe Cybertruck will have 4 wheel steering, and it's probably not much longer than the S, so it should be fine.
Great suggestion regarding the adjustable turn radius. Hope it can be accomplished with a software adjustment. Also, the $#@& HORN position is crazy stupid and adding the FSD icon so close to it is uncommonly (for Tesla) inappropriate and unnecessary, especially with so much unused real estate underneath and on the left side. The wiper icon and the horn icon positions are reversed. Using the horn if it was in the washer position would allow emergency honking with the thumb without lifting the right hand from the wheel.
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At least you can push all the buttons on the right and that honks the horn.
@@seanz6586 I have tried this several times and it has not worked that well. It only seems to work if I use the lower, flat part of my palm exactly right. It would be much easier, safer and more natural to be placed where the wiper icon is located, especially if you are anticipating using the horn and have both hands on the yoke. For example, in the diamond lane while passing slower traffic in the left lane, it is not uncommon to have a frustrated, single occupant driver, hop over into the diamond lane. Using the thumb for the horn would be invaluable in avoiding an accident.
The yoke does feel pretty good in the majority of situations and I don't think I would trade it either. I also agree with the horn placement but I don't find myself honking that often so it is not a daily annoyance. I have more trouble with turning quickly when cannot take my eyes off the road. I find that I often hit the wrong directional indicator and I'm blinking the opposite direction of my turn. This often occurs in lane changes, especially in traffic, when there are last second decisions being made.
The tip we use is, when you have stalks you lift UP to go right and push DOWN to go left. So with the yoke, UP = Top and DOWN = Bottom. So train your fingers with that in mind and it gets easier. TOP = Right, BOTTOM = Left.
The question for me is, since its been shown that you can install a Model 3 wheel & column on the Model S....is the reverse true? Can I install a Model S yoke on a Model 3?
It may be possible but a couple of things to consider. The wiring might not line up 100% to make the buttons work. Also the 3 is narrower than the S so that yoke would take up more space in the cabin than it does on the S. I'm sure it's possible but don't think it's a good fit.
I am looking forward to a yoke
Interestingly enough, all of the people commenting about the horn, and I dont even own the car, but, know that you can put your entire right palm over the horn, right spoke, to honk the horn.
The horn position is downright dangerous. As of today they only offer the new horn placement (middle) on yokes. For people with the wheel, you'll need to either buy a yoke or wait for a retro-fit that might not happen
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Didn't Tesla reprogrammed the horn with a panic feature where you put your palm on the right side and the horn engages?
when did you order your car, and when did you receive delivery?
August delivered September
Hey @blacktesla, love your videos... Question for you:. Have you considered just keeping your hands inside the steering wheel instead of the outside and turn your wrists etc? Instead of trying to turn from the outside.
Thanks, good question. Yes I've tried keeping them inside and turning my wrist but it's awkward and doesn't give you the confidence should you need to do something quick. Plus I think when seeing videos and pictures of the yoke it looks more cylindrical but is quite flat and deep like resting your hands on a shelf instead of a pipe like a wheel, this also makes it awkward.
@@BlackTesla ah, great explanation. Thank you.
It should be an option
FYI: I have a Plaid and I just used my palm to blow the horn as if there was an emergency. It worked quite well. You might want to give it a shot.
Congrats on the Plaid, I've tried it but and haven't gotten it to work consistently and reliably. Will try again.
@@BlackTesla yes it works but not always.
@@BlackTesla My car isn't coming until May but the owner's manual for the X says "NOTE: The horn also sounds when you cover all buttons on the right side of the steering yoke with your hand." Is this what you are talking about for using your palm?
My Model X Long Range will be here in September, and I cant wait to adapt to the yoke! I see your point about the horn though. Hmmmmmm.
Congrats on the X enjoy it.
A wheel would have more contact point and IMO more secure. In an emergency, you could just grab any part of the wheel quickly to keep the vehicle under control.
If you had one functional arm do you think you’d be able to drive a model x 23’?
Assuming that auto-shift out of park worked 100% of the time and your functioning arm was the left then yes. But in reality no, too many features require both hands.
@@BlackTesla only right
I thoug there were an update that you can slam your entire hand on the right buttons and the horn sound?
Improved yoke buttons: The colored luminous stickers are waterproof and can absorb light (can glow for a short time when entering tunnels, parking lots, and dark places). After placing the color according to the intuitive color position, you can quickly press the key you want to press using your peripheral vision. , practical and beautiful, increasing safety. th-cam.com/video/gNwD25SkHIg/w-d-xo.html
After all the yoke lights are bright and spinning in circles, the focus of your eyes cannot be found immediately (there will be hesitation)
The turn signal issue is not uncommon I think, at least not in Europe where you have to signal to get out of a roundabout. And we have A LOT of roundabouts. Multi-lane roundabouts even where you might have to switch lanes midway through. I think this touch-signal will be incredibly dangerous. Life & death dangerous to be honest because people will have to look down at the yoke while at the same time switching lanes in a roundabout, because the touch button will be located somewhere else than usual since yoke won't be straight in a roundabout. As for just driving with the yoke, I think that looks amazing though. Might take a little while to get used to but the yoke part of the yoke has never been an issue in my book. It's the removal of the turn signal stalk that's the main issue. That and the horn placement.
You're right I was totally speaking for the US, UK definitely has tons of roundabouts and those scenarios are much more common.
More and more roundabouts being built in the USA now, I love them, much better than stop signs or lights. I get trying to be different but this would be a deal breaker for me. Just give me traditional controls and I'm good.
It's a Tesla - if someone jumps out in front of you why doesn't it just honk on its own? You shouldn't even need to press the horn button! LOL - wouldn't that be fun!
My anxiety could not with all those hazards in there.
Have anyone tried this in the California Ortega highway?
It's flat out a damn steering wheel, ain't nothing outdated about a normal steering wheel.
How about parallel parking? That seems like that will be difficult.
Parallel parking is easy for the car
The gear shift and horn are both issues
These are good pro-arguments for the yoke, but I really doubt the yoke being the future. I base this on the yoke benefits not being great enough to outweigh the negatives of a mass switchover for the manufacturers and the public. Even on Teslas, it's only on the top-of-the-line Plaids.
Only if the yoke clearly, unambiguously, and EXCLUSIVELY becomes the better option for control will it ever be implemented as the standard.
Unfortunately Musk doesn't see it that way and plans to make that the standard going forward. All they really need to do is make a variable steering ratio and adjust button placement and it will be more valuable. Also the yoke is on all new S/X models plaid and long range.
The thing is, Plaids still represent a very small segment of EVs, which is already a small segment of car sales. You won't spur adoption by alienating the current market.
I don't know if Tesla can even engineer variable steering to know the driver's exact intentions and make it safer than the current setup. Even if they did, would it be better than the same system with a wheel? I personally find the effort unnecessary and better used elsewhere in Tesla which have near-term problems, and that there were other ways to make the Plaid special.
Umm, no !!
The yoke is on EVERY refreshed model S and X, not just the Plaid !!
No option for a regular circular wheel on any S or X !!
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You can choose which wheel you want now, when you order a tesla
Maybe I missed that point, but what makes the yoke BETTER than a wheel? It seems everybody is talking about how the yoke is not really horrible, but I haven't heard a real benefit of the yoke yet. Why not stick with the wheel? I have never heard anyone complaining about the functionality of the wheel.
Exactly the point, people are talking about how bad the yoke isn't because that's the only option with this car. So if you are considering it that's what you'd need to overcome. As to why it's better that's more of a Tesla question as to why they chose this over a wheel. However, I will say that highway driving is much more comfortable with the yoke than a wheel as the design of the yoke makes resting your hand more comfortable than resting it in the wheel which is circular and goes against the shape of your hand palms down. What would make it even better would be a variable steering ratio where it takes less than a full turn lock to lock allowing less range of motion to turn the car but that's not how Tesla implemented it unfortunately.
Do you think drive by wire would be better?
Much better, would help increase the steering ratio so lock to lock would be half turn of the yoke instead of double turns which is where the yoke falls apart.
I got used to the loss of my right arm. Not my first choice however.
I'm excited about the Yoke -- was one of the deciding factors between the Y and X for me. Ended up getting the X Plaid which will arrive next year. Also, it looks like we're in the same part of the country. When my X plaid comes youre welcome to take it out for a spin for a video of yours if you'd like.
Congrats on the X plaid! Thank you for the offer we may take you up on that 😎
Did you get it yet? What do you think of the yoke?
My top tier phone doesn't respond all of the time to touches, but yeah, I'm gonna trust a machine that weighs about a ton that's travelling god knows what speed with touch controls.
They've since fixed the touch nature of the buttons so they are very reliable now
@@BlackTesla Interesting, When I'm in the market for a car that starts falling apart immediately, and that needs major service about every 12k miles I'll look into getting a Tesla.
Tesla Fanboy of course you do turns, but its more dangerous then a normal round wheel ,where you can grab it from all angels and it moves back when turning. The question is not can you drive it the question is if its more dangerous and thats basicly what it is.
I did a turo S 460 miles and canceled my Plaid order. It’s annoying and that’s not good when spending 135k. Works great until you have to turn.
I didn't know how the Tesla yoke worked at all, so it's neat to get an idea from your video. I guess it's one of those "you won't truly know till you use it" experiences.
I don't like something about it, though I'm not sure if it's a real problem. A steering wheel has a predictable circle shape, so if you suddenly have to grab it, you don't have to look. But my concern is that when the Tesla is in autopilot and the yoke is turned very sharply, what if you suddenly have to grab the yoke to control it yourself? Would you have to take your eyes off the road to grab the yoke by the handles, and would there be a significant delay? You can't keep your hands on the yoke in autopilot when it's making a sharp turn, so you'll have moments when you're not holding it. Also, letting the yoke center itself seems like a similar situation.
It would've been interesting to see if they could've kept the circle shape, but had the yoke controls. The circle would just be for easier emergency control and making sharp turns, but you still get the benefit of the yoke if I'm not mistaken. I'm imagining disadvantage is it blocks your view of the instrument cluster like a traditional wheel, and reduces leg space.
Also having the shape be similar to a wheel would confuse driver who can't distinguish that they're actually using a yoke, so they mentally confuse the two control methods. Maybe they could make the wheel square, or have the circular portion be set farther back behind the yoke but still reachable. Not sure how that would work tbh
But it would mainly be for the emergency situation or sharp parking maneuvers. Maybe they can even add one of those knobs onto a part of the wheel so people can turn one handed?
I feel like cars have put the turn signal and horn in places they never move for a reason, and you pointed out the driver should always be able to tell where it is and how to activate it. That's actually one of Norman's rules of design if I recall, the design of good controls.
Several people have commented on how bad this would be for a roundabout where you are steering and need to signal to exit. In USA not an issue, we don't use signals anyway.
@@joecoolioness6399 haha, well luckily where I live most people use turn signals. But yeah, that doesn't sound good.
Gripping the top of the nubs gives me a feeling of control that is just amazing. I am really loving the yoke. For those who say, “but muscle memory,” take some time doing a mindfulness meditation while driving it and you’ll reprogram really quickly. Even in the Sierra Nevada with curving mountain roads, I do just fine and really like it.
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My problem with the yolk is muscle memory. It will take a very long time for most to do things on this wheel that will require no conscious thought. That, and yeah, that horn button. When you mad or need to sound that horn real fast to alert another driver, your first instinct is going to be to press the middle of that wheel for the horn. This is not the only car with the horn not in the middle, but still, like you said, very dangerous. I could probably get used to the wheel too in time, but the horn is not going to be a matter of time, most dont use the horn but once in a blue moon.
I love the yoke. I'll never go back to the wheel
Is the yoke heated?
Yes
I still don't know about driving a yoke. The steering wheel is still the general, catch all solution. A wheel minimizes any chance to be caught off guard during emergency maneuvers -- you reach anywhere along the radius and you are grabbing the wheel. So it doesn't matter if low visibility, distracted, driving one-handed, driving hands at the bottom, in whatever state of mind, you can't not expect the handle to be where you reach. Or if bumpsteer is a thing in the Tesla that could cause problems when not prepared for it.
Also I can't imaging every type of person being able to adapt to this -- from non-enthusiastic first time drivers to seniors. Or if you need to loan the car to the significant other and they find themselves needing to do an emergency maneuver. Of course you would say just buy another car, but that may be difficult if what you want is Tesla and if they end up moving to yoke on all models you are otherwise interested in.
Really the yoke would be nice as an option, for track or when up for spirited driving, and if the yoke also unlocked a tighter lock-to-lock ratio.
You say that because the regular wheel is all you know. Time to be open ,minded and try something new, or just don’t buy an X or S.
@@Annette_Hons I'll try one someday. Don't think I would be convinced though because I don't see the point.
Didn't the manual mention an alternative way to honk? You can touch all the buttons on the right side with your palm, a lot easier for emergencies. 🙂
Haven't been able to get that to work. Not sure if it implies that by covering the buttons your finger hits the horn button, but the danger is that if you don't have your foot on thr brake and do that you hit the AP/TACC button and I don't like that risk.
my aftermarket yolk allows the horn to remain where it is