Do It Yourself 20 Ton Hydraulic Forging Press
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- I needed a press for the shop to use for blacksmithing. A local store had a 20 ton air assist hydraulic jack on sale and I had a lot of thick wall steel tube, angle iron, and steel plate around the shop. Within a few hours I had welded up the press shown in this video.
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I think next it’s time to upgrade the forge cause your steel wasn’t very hot. An ideal forging temperature is a good orange color. Bright orange is even better. Yellow also known as white is perfect if you want to forge weld which is the main use of the hydraulic press. I do like the press idea though. It’s a great concept.
Everyone is hating on it for the slow speed build good for the price and if you want faster get a power hammer and don’t complain. Speed is not everything. I think it’s wonderful and might build one
My guess is that you are using a much underrated air compressor. You need 5.8 CFM @ 90 PSI to get much more efficient results. It would be smart to secure bottom dye as well before you get hurt. You would also have much better results if your steel was hotter before going into the press.... Thanks for the video
Great press Bill, thank you for posting.
I love those air over hydraulic jacks. I will be making a press with my everlast welder and will be using an air over hydraulic jack in it.
Kool set up but i might suggest is get that bottom die secured they can pop out of there like a 5lbs bar of soap and at that level will take your teeth right out and to the others it looks slow but wait till something slips out it moves pretty fast and thats experience not conjecture cheers mate
thanks for the idea man. just a tip u were pressing a little cold on that steel
Really good design I'd like to see a way to adjust the drop. I figure that way you will not have to wait on the pump that long. Small down then hard press? Just advise let me know if u do it.
Should heat or preheat the plates in the vise to hold more heat in the steel and give you longer working time. Great job though.
I found it very interesting Bill. Could you show how to instal the the air compressor to the jack?. Thanks
+Robert Navarro This is an air assisted hydraulic jack. The air line and air switch came attached to it. This jack can also be hand pumped like a normal bottle jack. It does use a lot of air and is not very fast moving. However it only cost $70 on sale so I got a cheap press.
Its funny to see how fast the steel cool down under the pressure
You're close,but it needs tweaking. You could fashion a handle that stays affixed to the bleed screw so you can lower it easier. Maybe some springs to help lower it quicker.
Who else thought that was a robots voice at the start ???
Nurdrage who.....
Awesome. Prob be nice to make some small Damascus billets on there
its a little slow...but I think it would work great for putting a fuller in knife blades because i need to watch close and keep them straight..so sometimes slow is good
Cool thing! Apart from blacksmithing it's probably also good for squashing old useless things in slow motion ;)
that is nice hope to see more die's made for this press
With slow pressing like that, I see the control you have but I think you would need about 50T. I see back in the old days they had hammer presses. A lot less cooling of the steel.
Gonna cook the jack seal with hot sh*t in no time
Great job!
It doesn't have a enough power to forge the steel. How is really powerful? ?????
Thanks for your intention. It is not good do it with the metal at this temperature. Sorry
Can i ask you how compressor you use?
How mach bar?
How mach air for minute?
It is a 220V 5 HP shop compressor at 120 psi. Takes a fair bit of air to run one of these jacks.
is there a maximum air pressure that can be put on the jack?
Sweet build! Good video as well
Do you have to turn the release knob to release the pressure for every down stroke? Is there away to do it using foot switch or electronically to save time and actions??
Thats what I was wondering
Use a pneumatic cylinder and the engine is different in terms of steering effect
Nice press but does anyone think he's doing the same voice as the regular car reviews guy? "Which press is best press?"
Thats air pump not hydraulic right?
me podria explicar como puso el sistema con la bomba hidraulica yo lo quiero hacer pero con una bomba de carro
I built one of these several years ago but I use it for forge welding. Need to preheat the anvils.
i think ou need some new duracells when you speak sounds like your running flat !!
Preheating the press plates prior to a pressing will reduce the heat sink/ chilling effect on the part being pressed.
How would this work with using the press by hand?
it would take ages
Bill, what is the tubing wall thickness?
Bill Fleming. thick like his head
McMurray?!
Hello, I would ask you to use the compressed air pressure is much, thank you.
I think a hammer is faster. But great job.
What's the HP on your compressor
+Greg D The shop compressor is a 220V 5HP with a 50 gallon air tank.
IS THAT 2'' TUBING ON THE UPRIGHTS.
its ok bro
how do you deal with the oxidation of the blade due to the forging process?
+MrRealgamer777 I use a wire wheel for the spikes. The grinding steps remove the oxide from other knives.
as slow as this is you would be better off just using a hammer and anvil you can't even press the whole piece before it cools down seems like a waist of time really what you do with that someone could probably do with a hammer in half the time
No, they couldn't. The amount of force involved in pressing something is orders of magnitude beyond what a human being using their arms and an anvil could do.
And I don't mean they could do it on the hammer and anvil but it would take a lot of swinging and sweat but little by little they'd do it. No, the effect of pressing does not work like that. It is a massive amount of force applied to a small area at one time.
Sure, the guy could get the piece hotter or preheat the dies, but what his build here is doing can never be done by a person. Moving material around by hitting its surface areas works with different physics then squeezing the whole of the material's thickness under inescapable force in a second or so. They are fundamentally different processes.
Why do you think presses - of any kind - exist?
En chauffant plus ?''
What accent is that?
Gormless
More Fast please........ too slow and long time.....
Jembut TV first before you criticize others atleast learn how to spell and write some one correct sentences
backyardbladesmith do you mean "you" and "write" all his words were correct smh -_-
Kaleb D clearly ur as stupid as him go back to school and learn how to write a sentence. more faster please is not a correct sentence
i dident edit my comment after i saw urs it was that way from the beginning mabey you should go buy some glasses. cuz you cant read mabey you should get a life. and its " laugh my ass off" and " get the fuck off" and for ur information i finished school . i took my GED test at 16 and passed with an A so clearly ur the stupid one.
backyardbladesmith LMAO you are some kind of stupid you do know it says (edited) after you change your comment nice try kid you should have stayed in school till the end haha and fyi it's didn't not dident and yours not urs oh and it's maybe not mabey and gtfo means get the fuck out not get the fuck off but keep going your making yourself more and more stupid as you go can't wait for the next dumbass reply please hurry I'm waiting for it and go ahead edit that one I still know exactly what you said you can act all smart and talk shit about someone else's comment but how's it feel to know you fail worse then they do might not have been a proper sentence but they spelled every single word correctly so what you got to say now smartass cause I'm sure it will be spelled wrong moral of this story don't talk shit when you yourself can't spell worth a fuck in dumbass terms keep your dumbass comments to yourself
microsoft sam???
way to slow
So sad
Much too slow, get an anvil a d 2lb hammer!!
shaun shepherd that's the point of a press u thick headed punk
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tristy-popstheman tristy-popstheman your standard of welding says it all!!
all.cr
shaun shepherd my standard of welding? I dout uve ever welded in ur life
shaun shepherd l am parches machin
Didn't even get to the forging part of video. My ears are bleeding from your voice. A very slooooooow bleed.