The Bulb Ban Is Here
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Before we had access to public water we had a well with a pump house. We used a 100w bulb to keep the pump from freezing up in the winter.
Heat lamp bulbs would fall under specialty and should still be available...
Heat tape thermostatically controlled is more effective and lower operating cost.
buy a horticultural heat mat
@@sunnyinnvfaulty tapes are rare. Did yours include the thermostat internally or was it externally controlled ?
@@Snarkapotamus We have this issue with reptiles - the problem is the specialty "heat lamps" are often far higher wattage, and when you can find them in the wattage you need are like $10/bulb local and ordering has an abysmal DOA or broken-in-transit rate. Most of our reptile lights are just regular 75-100 watt bulbs with a few 150w bulbs.
This reminds me of the German businessman who started importing incandescent bulbs as mini space heaters back when the EU implemented the ban. He called them "heatballs" and apparently sold quite a lot of them, for a while at least. Since the majority of their energy consumption is directly given off as heat and the light eventually becomes heat, he wasn't technically wrong.
Good for him! I expect they put him in stocks.?!
and you still need those smaller one in fridges to force the cooling cycle to start.
Except you get better efficiency using LED lamps and using a heat pump for heating. Better than 100% efficiency since instead of making new heat, you're concentrating heat that already exists.
That's why I think it's fine to use incandescent (and halogen) light bulbs in the winter. If you need to heat your home anyway, then what's the difference if you gain some light out of it in the process? Especially if you use electric heating.
@@vwestlifewith basic elecric heating- sure. However, burning stuff directly at home is more efficient, as you dont loose 66% as useless heat in the classical powerplant.
(worst case, of course, this gets better with district heating using the waste heat and so on.)
Here in the UK we can still buy incandescent light bulbs. They can be bought online from UK retailers. The important thing to realise is that they are rebranded as "industrial use bulbs".
Lol why does UK have more of a choice of lighting than the USA the home of the free?
Same here in Canada Rough service bulbs readily available
@@Lunar_Capital Anyone who thinks that incandescent bulbs are going to vanish are dumb. The carve out for "specialty" bulbs will make plenty of room for Walmart, Dollar Tree and any other store to order "industrial bulbs," "Specialty filament bulbs," "Infrared range nighttime bulbs" (For those who are sensitive to the blue spike of LED's) or "pet warming bulbs" honestly it will probably still have the effect the DOE wants, it will likely raise the cost of these bulbs to some sort of parity with lower energy bulbs because now they're marketed as specialty but it might not. Twinkies didn't vanish, neither will a filament lightbulb.
@Lunar_Capital Try an electrical supply store in the US rather than a retail store if you really want an incandescent bulb. In Canada, it's the best place to buy them.
@@geoffmooregm
My local mom and pop hardware store (an Ace Hardware) has anything you could think of in such a small shop. I've been going there instead of Home Depot for almost a year now.
On reddit the other day there was a post from someone who recently bought a house and was super concerned about a (incandescent) light bulb that was getting very hot and they wernt sure if it was safe or they should call an electrician, i felt myself slowly moving toward the grave right then...
Well reddit abounds with idiots, so don't worry its just dull youth.
definately requires an electrician. :)
The average redditor
@@tomsteve3804 You leave on 2 table lamps with 2 different kind of bulbs. You wait to see which type of bulb burns out first after a while and how long it takes for each one.
Would you consider this example to be a scientific experiment ?
👍pretty sad!
I remember when 100w incandescent bulbs were being phased out. My neighbor at the time thought it was the end of the world, and literally bought up every 100w bulb in a 100 mile radius. He had cases of them stacked in his garage.
I have a sh... load of them... :)
Don't even think of the 500W light bulbs used in photography ... 2 of them on a rig and you could switch off the heating
@@patrickcardon1643 For all of an hour or so? Those have a lifetime rated in hours, single digits of hours.
Got 2 of them with my fathers rig from the 60s ... he used them to film 8mm indoors, with his Bollex camera. You didn't want to stay in front of that more than a few minutes anyway. At art school (30 years ago) we had studio lights of the same wattage but can't remember if those were already halogen bulbs or still incandescent. They were used for still photography in the studio. Compared to what my current LED lights emit it's definitely a couple of worlds apart.
@@machintelligence If it lasts for 5 hours, you can shoot about 80 Super 8 cartridges with one. One Super8 cartridge contains 3 minutes and 20 seconds of film.
I actually use incandescent light bulbs under sinks during the winter to keep them from freezing during hard freezes.
You can get heating elements with an Edison base that produce heat without the light. And because they’re designed to produce heat, not light, they last a lot longer.
@@beefchicken Guess what light becomes when it reaches a wall!
Incandescents are 100% efficient heaters.
@@linsqopiring6816 heaters that burn out.
@@beefchicken THere's no arguing the longevity of LED's is much better. Only the operational efficiency can be touted here.
@@beefchicken Flicking through comments was worth it for that one. :)
Most egg incubators (where i live) use incandescent bulbs as heat source and for that use they are perfect.
i dont think heat lamp type are banned. just household.
They're infrared mostly, like kitten manufacturers
100 watt incandescent bulbs are still best for chicken incubation. Heaters could be used but now you're drying the air at possibly a dangerous rate. Maybe humidifier combo with 200 watt ceramic heater may work.
@@elektroqtus that's the idea as well. Hurting chicken coops
You live in an egg incubator!?
There is a dirty little secret about GE and its incandescent bulbs. The incandescent bulbs were manufactured mostly in America while the alternative bulbs were manufactured in Asia. They pushed for the ban as it would allow them to shift their production overseas while using the ban as a scapegoat for closing U.S. manufacturing operations. At the same time, they are able to sell the replacement bulbs with a higher profit margin as environmental, labor and safety regulations outside the U.S. do not apply.
That’s not a dirty little secret; it’s a dirty little LIE. GE would never have been shy about closing a freaking light bulb production line, dude - it was a couple hundred jobs at most. Fact is GE converted to making LED bulbs in the USA. Besides, it’s not as if GE was the only company making incandescent bulbs! Surely at some point in your life you noticed Sylvania light bulbs?
It's no secret that US corporations have been manipulating government legislators into passing regulations that will benefit the corporations' bottom lines and their shareholders. If the GE bit is true, then they're just heartless to their employees.
The only thing that is dirty and little is your brain.
Yes, and my late wife and I were calling them Chinese suicide bulbs. If they were some place like in a hallway where they were on all of the time, the bulbs would eventually pop out of their sockets and burst when they hit the floor. I've never had bulbs do that to me before, but it is the main reason I stopped buying them. 😂
There's a bigger, dirtier secret about why they are made to fail.
Thank You Fran Truckers have LED bulbs for their lighting on the back of the rig. During snow conditions the LED's become iced over because there is no heat to dissipate the ice. The old bulbs had a very slight heat and that was all it took to keep the lights visible. TM
They had this issue with LED traffic lights. Now they have a heating circuit.
@@gwaeron8630 I'd like to see data on how many watts they use on the heating circuit vs. how many the incandescent bulbs used.
@@fredericiaschannel That would be interesting indeed. I'd say LEDs would still win by a lot considering expected life, brightness, redundancy and only using the heating circuit when required.
@@gwaeron8630 you do realize that automobiles are powered by the alternator and there is NO FUCKING NEED to save energy, the same gas that is moving the car is powering the lights not like you going to burn anymore gas in doing so.
@@dr.strangelove5708 Traffic signals don't have alternators that I'm aware of and don't use gas either... With regards to LEDs for vehicles you need to find out how alternators work. Try this in your search 'alternator load fuel economy'. Happy learning!
I switched to LED 6 or 7 years back. I just remember the first power bill post transition, it went down $40/month switching everything to LED. I was sold. The only annoying thing for me is I have to remember to get "warm" LED's. I hate that freaking blue tint of the cool bulbs.
Same on the color, but for some things, mainly work, I prefer the blue hue white. I’ve replaced nearly all of my home bulbs with color smart LED ones so I can adjust the color as needed. Those, along with automation, has saved me a good amount in my monthly bill.
I like having the choice. I use warm white for living spaces, cool white for work spaces.
Warm white LED lamps (2700K) are very easy to get. The blueish ones (6500K) are no problem too. But 3000K or 4000K lamps are difficult to get. And if you have Tiffany lamps with a lighter color scheme 4000K lamps are ideal
Same thing with the (maybe even worse) with CFL lamps. I bought some really harsh blue ones several years ago that I couldn't even use. LED bulbs have improved so much in that area since they came out though.
As an artist I prefer cool lighting to warm. Warm bulbs make it hard to see colors correctly. Awesome that that much energy and money can be saved!
Thank you for the heads up! I have eye problems from MS, incandescent bulbs are the easiest on my eyes. 🙃
Yep LED bulbs are horrible for your eyes. Climate scam in full throttle
What does MS stand for?
@@blufudgecrispyrice8528 multiple sclerosis
In Russia, they said that they would ban the circulation of general-purpose incandescent lamps with a power of more than 100 watts. But after that they began to produce lamps with a power of up to 95 W, and everything else was called "Heat emitter for special purposes".
Genius lol
Sorry but glass and metal are more recyclable then plastic electronics. Here in AZ the LED street lamp bulbs keep failing / or turning purple…. Causing many repeated truck rolls to change them out. How are they more eco friendly vs a sodium bulb that lasts much longer seemingly?
They last longer and saves you money
As LED lighting becomes common, incandescent lighting automatically will become specialty.
As it becomes common?… like 15 years ago you mean
Already has
@@mikemargo In the USA, 15 years ago, it wasn't common. No surprise, as I've only seen really decent LED bulbs for about 5 years, now.
More like novelty really
@@sn1000k hey there deer..... listen up........ i like 2 play with the feces.... i made the bathroom all tile (i am not a poor!!!!!).. so i can make the violent shart hit all walls... also fling the fecal
They are handy current limiting resistors for your electronics projects.
The DIM Bulb tester :)
In 2007 or whatever, a grocery store in my college town put a whole bunch of incandescent lights up for sale on a big stack in front of the store with a sign on them telling people to buy them before they are banned.
Way ahead of their time
This happened about (15?) years ago in Europe - the quality of CFL bulbs were terrible, only with the advent of LED did we have genuinely better alternatives for domestic light.
Also, in a cold country like the UK all that "waste" heat from an incandescent bulb is rather nice 😂
IKEA have been a big help here in Europe, early on they offered LED bulbs of pretty decent quality at a low price. Back then, many LED bulbs were terrible, with weird color spectrums and often way dimmer than advertised. And the good ones cost and arm and a leg.
There was a special 'wasteful' bulb for the bathroom which made the room warm. That was a great idea.
People talked about the 'waste heat' here in Canada too when we made the switch. I've always thought it was a poor agrument, cause you would only want it half the year, and use LED in the summer. So to maximize efficiency youd need two sets of bulbs.
@@mrcmoes In my small apartment I use lighting from one bulb for 90% of my lighting consumption. So it's not to hard to change one bulb a couple times a year.
@@linsqopiring6816 wouldnt be to difficult with a small place, but you are still buying a second lightbulb, and if your heating with electeic rads it costs the same to do the heating. Maybe less if other heating options are cheaper. I said this more to people who used the heat defence for why phasing them out is a bad idea.
If we had led bulbs 50 years ago, electric woulda been super cheap. Whenever we get energy saving devices the energy saved is offset by ever increasing energy costs. My electric bill is twice what it was ten years ago, and my devices are more energy efficient than ever. 😢
And the ever inflating 'standing charge'
And we just use the spare energy producing the dumbest shit to ship around the world for reasons..
energy price correlate with fossil fuels price.
But you are making more money than 10 years ago as well.
@@jamesryan7684 Compared to inflation and spending power. No. (Hint: It has stood still since the 70s and is regressing now)
When I moved into my current house I replaced most of the incandescent bulbs with LEDs, though I didn't throw them away. Last fall, during the first serious cold snap of the year my furnace wouldn't start and I didn't have an electric heater (since rectified), so I grabbed all those incandescent bulbs (around 1000 watts in total, so 2/3rd of a standard electric heater) and ran them to heat my place up. It actually worked a little too well (after 6 hours or so I had to turn a bunch of them off because my place was getting *too* warm), though about 10% of the bulbs burned out just during the 24 hours I was running them.
I get headaches from the LEDs but from incandescent light bulbs I never got one
Anyone else notice that their LED lights are burning out too!? Built in obsolescence?
It's the on \ off cycles that kills both LED's and CFL's .
I've blown one (toilet light, always on so not surprised) and have had several get very dim as the years went by.
Been happily using LED bulbs since 2012 or thereabouts, bought them here in Scotland in The Pound Shop, for of course £1 each! None of them have needed replacing in that time.
Glasgow Poundland?
How do they work in your oven?
NEVER USE LED LIGHTNING IN LIVING AREAS. LED LIGHT CREATES DRYNESS OF THE SKIN AND CAUSES PREMATURE AGEING, IT CAN ALSO CAUSE NAUSEA AND HEADACHES AND OFFER NO NOURISHMENT FOR WELL BEING, UNLIKE THE NATURAL LIGHT SOURCE OF INCANDESCENT LIGHT BULBS THAT OFFER VITAMIN AND NOURISHMENT FOR THE MIND AND BODY.
I did as well, I changed all the recessed lighting in my house to LED’s in 2012 and never looked back. $20 a bulb back then!! the big heavy ones with the heat sync, took three tries with different brands to get the color temp right. Totally got my moneys worth on them, still working after all this time. Only had a few fail on me, but I bought extras. In various lamps and other things in the house I have other lighting types, but the main lighting has been LED.
I think you must be off with your dates somewhat. I switched over to led about that time, and they weren't in pound shops.
It's wild... the changes I've seen in my own lifetime
Shit yea , people everywhere glued to their smartphones, in restaurants on the bus and walking around on the street and no payphones
AI is going to be a big game changer too.
My grandmother was born into the era of stagecoaches and lived to see the era of cell phones. Technology proceeds so rapidly that the answer to the Fermi Paradox is frighteningly apparent. I wish things could slow down.
I understand that, it's a comfortable light source for me.
In 2006 I switched all the bulbs in the house to CFL, and in 2012 I switched to LED bulbs and have never regretted it. I certainly noticed a drop in my electric bill, and the bulbs don't seem to burn out as often.
Lol.
I didn't like CFLs, as they were more fragile than standard incandescent, but I love the LEDs!
I have replaced all of my incandescent lights with LEDs, as the LEDs last so much longer in high vibration areas!
As a radio amateur I will not use LED bulbs as they tend to be be broad spectrum radio transmitters, polluting the RF spectrum.
@@tedclapham4833 Which is why you have to test them out before just filling your house with them. But they are getting better! I have not had a bad bulb in a very long time!
@@jeffreyyoung4104 I have checked out most of those LED's available in my area and every one had RF problems. Operating LED's on AC seems to be the problem due to the rectifier action and inadequate filtering or room for such in the bulb envelope. The noise comes about when the LED's turn on. In the worst case it produced S9 noise in the 160 Metre band and got worse the higher in frequency you went.
@@tedclapham4833 Sorry to hear that!
I have many bulbs and none of them I use cause noise, and I can check from 50KHz to 1 GHz,
When I started using them, I had lots of problems,, and I complained and the products got better. Especially when the FCC got involved.
I hope you can find better suppliers!
@@tedclapham4833 I find the dimmable/3 way ones to emit RFI. I find this to cause much pixelization on my TV's. The CFL's were much worse though. I have not tested CFL's or LED's though with my amateur equipment though.
Any love for CFLs mystifies me. The first ones never lived up to the marketing hype, and I've hated them ever since. Most LED manufacturers try to do the same underhand stuff, over running the LEDs to reduce life span. I now modify LED bulbs as per Clive Mitchell's videos and have stopped having to replace them completely. Occasionally I have one fail and think "uh oh", but it turns out to be one that was installed before I started doing the mods, or one that I modded and fixed after it failed the first time. Interestingly, I now have almost no CFLs in the house - they've all been replaced when they failed. I have a very old one in the toilet which is OK because it starts off very dim and doesn't blind me at 2AM.
I kind of get the love for incandescent bulbs, but it is possible to get LED bulbs that do much the same thing in warm colours (modified to reduce wattage and extend the life of course).
A note on modifying LED bulbs... Reducing the wattage doesn't actually reduce the visible light output because you are mostly just reducing the inefficient heat output. For example, buy the 12 or 15 watt bulbs and knock them back to 8 or 9 watts. Same light output as a 60 or 75 watt light bulb. You pay a little more because they have extra LEDs (lots) but they can last literally forever because you are not cooking them.
I think these govt. departments should limit bulbs based on heat output rather than technology. Low heat output equates to efficiency regardless of technology, and at the end of the day that's what they are really aiming for (even if they are too stupid to realise it). A cold bulb will last a very long time no matter what the technology, and it would also stop the mainstream manufacturers (Philips, Osram etc) from deliberately making lights with very short life spans.
Modifying bulbs to increase the efficiency is beyond the skill of the average consumer, but for us technical people it should be a given.
There was that single CFL bulb I loved - bought it somewhere in 2006 or thereabouts, it was a high quality Philips unit, just at the peak of that tech, where they didn't skimp on the converters and whatnot, it lasted 16 or so years, when it died it should have received a Viking burial for its service.
CFL is useful for its UV. If placed near used fabric, for example a used facemask, it 100% prevents them from fouling/smelling.
i've had numerous CFLs exceed their warranties tenfold- it was the cheap early ones that spoiled it for most
@@VEC7ORlt I have one from Phillips that's the same way; it's so old I don't even remember buying it.
I bought my first CFL bulb in 1998 figuring the money I spent was going to be made up in all the electricity I'd save. It lasted a week.
Here's an interesting one for you. A few years ago when it became hard to get incandescent bulbs through the common channels, I started buying them through the dollar stores. The primary bulb in my area was made by Sylvania, I should've said it was labeled Sylvania since clearly these bulbs were made in Asia. Over a couple of years it became clear that almost all of these bulbs would burn out in one to two months. It actually drove me a little nuts. I started to put labels in my fixtures describing when I screwed the bulbs in and started keeping track of how often I turned them on and how long they were kept lit. To make a long story short, these Sylvania cheapie bulbs would burn out in 1 to 2 months of common use. Many other bulbs in my house from GE and other brands would last for years. they seem to be especially sensitive to be in turn on and off. If it was a bulb that was commonly being turned on and off, it would go shockingly fast. I was always super curious what the root cause was. Was it a problem with the tungsten purity, a problem with the vacuum, a problem with the spot welds, a problem with the filament supports? Needless to say, I never found out or figured that out myself.
I am sure many others must've experienced the same thing. To have such a gigantic distribution of such a lemon product was truly disappointing, especially since Sylvania and the dollar stores had to know, right?
Ah that was because it could pass regulations and also they wanted them to burn out fast so you would get the message and buy LED.
Yes they knew because they were made in third world. I have GE bulbs that are fifty years old still going. Think of the money I have saved. Todays junk bulbs that burn your skin etc are not cheaper to run and leave hazardous waste. Edison tried 1000s of filaments before he found the longest lasting. I never run heat and I don't have AC. Just a few fans in Florida. Get the goverment out of our personal business. With payolla to them they dictate what we spend and how we spend why they push us into debt. Let these billionaires in goverment jobs pay off the debt. Not us paying for hazadous overpriced bulbs made poorly in other countries. US made incandescent bulbs NOW.
They have been using inert gas in the bulbs instead of a vacuum for almost 100 years.
My place is lit by T12 fluorescent and circline tubes! Really because I like the colours, the glare-free even illumination, and the gentle hum when they're on. Finding new lamps is easy because everyone else has been chucking their spare tubes away! I'm not worried about their higher power consumption, as the output of my solar panels is way higher than what the lighting uses. As for the mercury issue, if they're all recycled in the proper way it's not a problem at all because the mercury is collected and reused, in fact the whole tube can be recycled - and the fittings! Unlike LED which is e-waste, which can only be crushed up and chemically separated.
They can ban all florescent tubes IMO as they put me to sleep.
You are in Europe I take? In HS in the early 1980's I went to school, with a guy from Denmark/UK, his family lit the entire house with Fluorescents, claimed they were more efficient, they were way ahead of the curve on that thinking.
So true! The mercury-containing lamps are not a problem if they are recycled. Maybe they should fine people for throwing away CFL lamps instead of banning them.
For those who will just now switch from incandescent to LED : clean or change your light switches :)
years of flashing and arcing in the switch, deteriorating the contact will often kill your brand new LED bulbs. I kept killing LEDs every couple of months until i did that. Haven't changed a single bulb in years since.
Interesting!
Yes, interesting, but how so? Additional resistance in the circuit?
@@CSmith-gb1sl the arching is like turning it off and on a thousand times a second.
@@linsqopiring6816Understood, but never had issues with switches & LED lighting. I've had problems with the older "hard click" type switches wearing out, & usually could hear the arcing as you are turning on the newer ones. I have made a habit of swapping out ones that look physically broken (Bakelite cracked), or have been painted over by prior owners (why some paint switches is beyond me).
Citation needed. I contend that's not possible.
I used to dislike the ban when we only had CFLs, however since then it's become fairly easy to find LED lights with good colour reproduction ratings.
I really started hating CFLs when I had one catch on fire in my nightlight one evening when I was reading a book in 2010.
One other thing nobody has mentioned is the chemistry behind LEDs vs tungsten carbide filaments and the differences in manufacturing. That's something that one could look into.
Am I the only one that remembers as a kid that bulbs would burn out ALL THE TIME? Like it was non stop. And Fran, try a decent led clear filament on a dimmer in an antique lamp, they are really nice and won’t disintegrate the base / socket insulation.
Exactly! They're much cheaper to use and they last and last! How could anybody complain about them? LOL!
@@HappyValleyDreamin You, my friend, have the intellectual insight of a potato.
a 60 watt bulb would cost 50cents and it would last 6 months or a year, now a decent one costs 5 to 10 euros so thats the price of 20 bulbs.
@@MrHBSoftwareI can get a 125 watt flood light led for a 1.25 usd or a two pack of 60 watt equivalent for 1.25. Have 6 led rgbw smart bulbs for 3 years now running 24/7 and not one burned out
@@MrHBSoftware you can routinely get them for like $1 a bulb. they consume like 1/10th the power and mine from 5 years ago are still running. they've paid for themselves multiple times just from the power draw alone and that's even if they were on 24/7. CF bulbs are trash though I'll contest that unless you really need a dimmer without a higher initial cost. the new led bulbs are very nice. they are also much kinder to those with issues that come from CF
there goes using my 1967 Easy Bake Oven.... oh the humanity
I can't remember when the UK banned incandescent bulbs but now we have LED's it hasn't been an issue at all.
Because you guys didn't fight that crap forced upon you. That's why it wasn't an issue.
@@craigpennington1251 It's not crap though. Some of the early LED bulbs were crap that weren't good replacement colors, took too long to light up, and had heat dissipation issues that could cook the interior circuits, but it's been a long time since those issues were solved.
@@craigpennington1251 It wasn't an issue because LED lamps are completely fine and cut cost significantly. Even CFLs on this side of the pond - provided you buy Osram or Philips - were completely fine for purposes where they aren't switched on or off a lot.
The light spectrum from LED lamps is pretty damn good. I've looked at them myself and it's really good. Longevity of name brand lamps is fine too.
I fought against CFL bulbs here in the UK, buying a stash of incandescents. CFLs had (have?) really poor quality light. LED bulbs are an acceptable replacement for incandescents, IMO, even for mood lighting
@@craigpennington1251 The brits don't fight anything the government foists upon them. It's nothing new.
When LED bulbs were introduced, they touted the long lifespan that the LEDs were rated for. They could burn 24/7 for 10 years. And, they charged big bucks for them, but what the heck, they would last nearly for ever in normal usage. Then they started failing on less time than the incandescent bulbs and people felt cheated. Yes, the LEDs would last a very long time, but they cheaped out on the electronics in the base and that was what was failing after a year or so of normal use. That is still the normal failure mode for LED lamps.
One use for a heated lightbulb is in art projects where you need a substance to dry quickly, whether padding paper, painting, or using inks or watercolors. I keep a small assortment handy for just such work.
..instead of a 100watt bulb as a make-shift heater, you can use a 100w heater as a make-shift heater.
Low-wattage heaters like this are common in labs and production areas.
They are available as resistive pads, or IR emitters.
@@ernestgalvan9037 Thanks. At the rate I use the heated bulbs, the ones I have will likely last years. If I need more, I now know there is a reasonably priced alternative! Thanks.
Heat gun is great because you can direct the heated area vs the mostly omnidirectional heat from a bulb. More efficient and control.
@@jamesbullo Thank you. For my needs, neither efficiency or control is needed.🙂
...or hear me out: Daddy Government could just kick rocks and let us live. @@ernestgalvan9037
I don't know about the legal status, but in The Netherlands it has been nearly impossible to buy incandescent lamps fot quite a while now. With a few exceptions (like a lamp for an oven) it is 99,9% LED
Certain old electronics shops that have existed for decades still have them. But with the cost of electricity at 40 cent per kWh you'd be foolish to use incandescents, unless you heat electrically and use the lamps as part of your heating system.
@@mfbfreak that's 4 times what electricity costs in canada wow. If it costs so much why do people still use electricity? The only case I can see is where the building is not designed well and the occupant needs some extra heat.
As far as I'm aware it is illegal to import them, but not to sell them.
@@linsqopiring6816 Because electricity is kind of a necessity unless you wanna live like in the middle ages. They still use electricity for things like... you know.. the internet for information, communication, increasingly for work, entertainment (such as streaming services like the one you're leaving a comment on after doing the same). Also for turning the lights on at night, doing laundry, using ubiquitous technology, you get the picture. If electricity became that expensive in Canada, would you give up everything that relies on it? Or perhaps still use it but only for heating your house? In my country electricity is also insanely expensive and we need A/C year round because it's basically always summer here. Doesn't mean we go "Oh well, electricity's too expensive, time to use candle-light, cook on a firepit, get a washboard and travel on horse whenever I wanna visit or talk to anyone outside the neighborhood.
@@groundcontrol6876 Ok, I could only read the first 2 sentences of your comment because, you know , cringe. Obviously I meant why do they still use electricity FOR HEATING!!
I was sceptical at first, hated CFL but LEDs really are the ultimate lighting solution. Interestingly, in Australia the transition was mostly driven by cost. Welcome to the future 🤠
Yeah, LEDs are the best... no more dead bulbs.
Why does does it say 2d ago on your comment, before this video came out?
Welcome to the future> IT SUCKS!
@@vortexan9804 I'd bet it was available early for channel subscribers.
@@stunt- What year is it where you live?
I use these types of bulbs to prevent dew build up on my large reflecting telescope mirror. The small amount of heat released from the bulb is perfect to keep the primary mirror clean from dew while sitting in an unheated observatory. I use very low wattage and like you I have a stack hidden. I live in Canada and its very difficult to find these things. I don't think Canada has outright banded these things yet but I sure it will come sooner than latter. Great information and as always fabulous video. Be well.
I've been stockpiling incandescent bulbs for a few years. My personal favorite, throughout my home, are the GE 'stained glass' bulbs. Lots of ministrings and 3-ways, etc. You're welcome to come and visit anytime, of course. 😎
They'll make nice current limiters. Grab'em while you can!
I use LED lighting all over the place, and keep the incandescent for the Bulbulator. I'm on a budget tighter than Ethel Granger's laces and can't really afford buying expensive stuff off the firsthand market, so I mainly get damaged LED bulbs for free, fix them and use them until they're FUBAR.
Here in Europe, 100W incandescent bulbs were banned many years ago, early 2010s if not 2000s already. This didn't prevent from selling them - they just got re-marketed as signalling bulbs. Not sure when general ban hits, but I'll still have ways to get them; an upside of not being brainwashed into thinking that buying new items in a shop is the only way of getting them.
I never really liked CFLs, their slow heatup was pesky though at times had its advantages.
I still use CFL's in the bathroom adjacent to my bedroom so when I get up in the middle of the night or early in the morning and turn the bathroom light on I don't have full glaring brightness in my eyes immediately.
For some reason, I kind of assumed that the whole world had switched to LED bulbs ages ago.
To be fair, US has switched to LED for the most part, stores just have incandescent bulbs around just like they had VHS still in some dusty corners in the 2010s.
You won't find an incandescent bulb here in Argentina since around 2015...
Yeah, well, the whole world switched to metric ages ago, yet here we are in the US. 🤷🏻♀
@@Felice_Enellen , I think that is somewhat incorrect. In my own experience, metric is widely used in the US in the more technical fields, and especially for measurement units. But for things like hardware (screws, bolts, etc;) there are so many legacy applications that the old thread sizes and such will continue to be supported and used for along time yet. Having said that, both of my US made vehicles use metric thread hardware, at least in most places I have checked. And when I build stuff, I use metric hardware when I can easily get it; although my local ACE has a large metric section, most specialty hardware they carry in not in metric.
And even in places that supposedly went over to metric decades ago, some places (e.g. the UK) still have an odd mixture of measurement standards, and it is not all metric.
@@Felice_Enellen Well, SAE and Metric are now linked, so that isn't such a thing as it was in the 40s and 50s, when it was a way to keep our enemies from being able to use our equipment in their militaries. But we use Metric for most scientific purposes in the US, and we are able, for the most part, able to understand both!
Incandescent bulbs were banned in the UK years ago, though there was a hardware store in Winchester that somehow carried on selling them for a long time (I bet that happened elsewhere, too). I've never met anyone else who felt like this, but I quite liked the way the CFL bulbs took a while to attain full brightness - it reminded me of happy holidays in caravans with calor gas lighting, where it took some time for the mantle to light up properly, too!
I've got a CFL right next to me now. You're right, it takes a minute or two to grow to full brightness. I rather like the effect. It's much better than walking into a dark room and being blinded by LEDs when you flip the switch.
@@brianmorgan5880 , I use CFL's in the bathroom next to my bedroom for the same reason, the light won't hit me hard when I first flick the switch early in the morning or if I get up to pee in the middle of the night.
You could get one of the bulbs with the built-in microcontroller and reprogram it to do that.
they probably just had a bunch of old stock so even if buying more stock was banned they still had plenty to sell.
@@gogereaver349 , I was in a Dollar General store the other day for the first time and they had some 60 and 75 watt incandescent bulbs as well as LED bulbs
I've switched fully to LED about 5 years ago and although I've had some duds fail after a year or two, overall they've been reliable and uses so much less energy. Many power grids are overloaded so we should be doing everything possible to reduce the load. It makes no sense to continue using incandescent which are converting only 5% of the energy to visible light with the rest going to waste heat.
The infuriating thing with this is there are some things you NEED to have them for. We have reptiles that require heat for basking, a 75-100W incandescent bulb was about perfect...but now unavailable. Ordering the "for pets" ones costs like $10 a bulb and they seem to have abysmally short lifetime compared to the same wattage of plain old incandescent lamps of old. We have also tried online ordering but its 50/50 if they arrive smashed, and then about 25% of the time even if not smashed they are DOA. Most specialty "heat lamps" are WAY too high wattage for our use.
Separate rant - can we get some LED bulbs that don't fail after a couple months?
Just buy a decent brand like Sylvia, FEIT or Phillips.
...or Daddy Gov could kick rocks and let us live our lives.@@CamdenBloke
Incandescent bulbs might be illegal now but I would bet my life savings that random mom & pop shops will still be selling Blanco Suave bulbs for decades to come.
Blanco Suave. He had that dance hit in the early 90s, didn't he?
Rico Suave? Gerardo?
At a rate of one per month.
Some of the LED's in my home were made by a company called Feit Electric and purchased fm5 or so years ago.. Within the past year or so I accidentally bought what I assumed were "vintage style" LED Bulb's (clear glass, "filament" LED'S) made by tge same Feit Electric, and without looking at the packaging more closely I stuck them in the storage closet with the rest of the spare bulbs I keep on hand. Last month I went looking for a bulb and pulled one of those clear old-fashioned style bubs out and thought come this would work nicely, and then I looked at the box and realized it said "incandescent" in very small letters! The point being that even companies that are selling or marketing LED bulbs are also sometimes still producing or marketing incondescendants and if you look around you can find them, whether accidentally or on purpose.
@@goodun2974 I had a similar experience just last month. I bought a random light bulb thinking it was LED. The picture on the box showed it had a plastic part at the bottom just like an LED. But it was actually one of those CFLs with a normal glass bulb around it to make it look more traditional. Lesson learned; don't assume it's an LED unless it explicitly says so on the box.
Some uses for incandescent E26s: I put one in a cinder block under my cat's bed in the winter. I've used them to provide just enough heat to keep oil warm under a motorcycle's crankcase, when it had to start in the early morning. I use them to dump excess current from a solar array because they work fine on DC at any voltage up to 120. If you want a bulb to last for at least 100 years, as in an inaccessible place, you can stick a diode in the line or run two in series. According to Bosch, reducing the voltage to 102 VAC will increase the service life of an incandescent by 10 fold. Another nice feature of incandescents is that they can be used unattended, as they are a mature technology. Bulbs with electronics can and do overheat, melt and catch fire, especially when cooling is compromised by wasp nests or incorrect installation. (personal experience). The quality of light from LEDs compared to that of incandescents can be compared to the quality of sound from a cell phone vs a land line: It's hideous but what are you going to do?
Infrared light is very beneficial for our health and well-being. Incandescent bulbs are the only household lights that emit infrared light.
I have raised baby chicken chicks, in a cardboard box, with a desklamp with a basic Tungsten incandescent bulb. The amount of heat required can be adjusted by using any of several standard, 40 watt, 60w, 75w or 100w bulbs (larger bulbs can also occasionally be obtained. I have used 150 watt bulbs occasionally and 200 watt bulb once. For other purposes.)
Yes people can buy special "Infra-red chick heating units". But most people don't already own a specialised animal heat lamp. Many houses do own a desklamp with a standard bulb fitting, and tungsten incandescent lamps can be bought in supermarkets.
That said, it seems weird to me that Yanks use threaded lightbulbs, where I grew up, standard household bulbs were always Bayonet Cap fitting (22 mm diameter). An especially large Edison Screw fitting was available for the 500 watt and 1,000 watt bulbs used in industrial situations like old factories, and much smaller Screw fitting bulbs are used in some special lamps.
...also MIGRAINES many folks that suffer Migraine headaches find that using a, as dim as possible Tungsten incandescent bulb, is the most suitable for use when lighting is needed during a migraine episode.
I stocked up on incessant bulbs back when the ban was first being talked about 10, 15 years ago. Filled 2 whole cupboards full in my basement utility room with them! All wattages. . . 3 ways. . . the works! Of course, when they didn't disappear from the store shelves like I had feared, I just started using them up as needed. Now that the ban is finally here, I'm just down to a precious few left! Shoulda known the gov'mint would find a way to screw me over! ;)
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I was pretty thrilled when CFLs came out because it meant having to change the bulbs less often. I come from a family of night owls so the "0.9 years" estimate is more like "You better have a few boxes on standby"
Very interesting. I have messed with lamps since the 1970’s when I designed stage lighting fixtures. Tiny little tungsten halogen lamps up to 1000 watts. About 89% of those watts was heat, about 1% ultraviolet (yes one can get a “sun burn” from a bare tungsten halogen lamp) and the rest visible. Sorry for the terminology difference. What you call a bulb, I call a lamp.
I have no problem with LED lamps. I have many of them. The problem I have is with the department of energy. If their desire is to limit energy use, specifically electricity, there are other steps they could, maybe should, have taken.
You mentioned the hot humid southern US. Cooling a dwelling in the South is much more energy intensive than heating one in the North. I know, I have lived in both places. There is a huge energy use made necessary by idiotic rules by a Home Owners Associations in the South. That is, they require a heat magnet as roofing material. If the DOE wanted to make a huge dent in electricity use, they could over rule the HOA’s roofing rules and allow materials that are more reflective.
Years ago, the FCC over ruled the HOA bans on satellite dishes. Apparently watching TV is more important than reducing energy use. But then, only fools, expect government projects to make sense.
I personally enjoy the heat radiating off of incandescents.
Agreed. I think it is good for the well-being to stay in the warm light that also warms deeply with its IR radiation.
Even in 90 degree weather?
I've always loved to lean my forehead against the desklamp while reading. Very comforting. Primal, like a good campfire.
My grandparents used to use incandescent bulbs to help keep the water pump room in the basement warmer so that the pipes didn't freeze.
I live in Jamaica. Nuff heat as is.
A couple years ago the office building I work in was having a space remodeled. A couple of us noticed all the box shaped fluorescent ceiling fixtures were being tossed in the dumpster. We asked one of the contractors why they weren't salvaging those perfectly good lights. He said, they're not allowed anymore. Everything has to be LEDs
About 10yrs ago I did some remodeling and took out some 2ft fluorescent tube fixtures. Tried to donate them to the habitat for humanity reuse store but they did not want them. Suggested they go to the ewaste place at the landfill. They all still worked and I even had some spare tubes. I still have them in my shed :(
@@eeengineer8851 - Florescent bulbs (like the E26 based CFL pigtails) contain a small amount of Mercury...
@@SnarkapotamusAll fluorescent lights have mercury in them that is what makes them glow. Breaking any fluorescent bulb releases micro particles of aerosolized mercury droplets hence the warning on the box. That is why cfl bulbs are being phased out as the f is fluorescent with the same problem of spreading inhale-able mercury. Light Emitting Diode bulbs avoid this hazard. 🤔
@@michaeldautel7568 - I knew that, I used to work in the lighting industry. I should have said "all" but didn't for some odd reason. Not enough coffee I guess...
How wasteful and sad. 😢
Beautifully done Fran -- thanks :)
I don't miss the old bulbs at all.. in fact it's been a few years since I had to change a light around the house
Quartz Halogen lamps don't have mercury in them? The only "special sauce" is the halogen environment and quartz envelope, the envelope to survive the higher temperatures needed for the halogen cycle to redeposit tungsten back onto the filament.
I went to Walmart some time ago for some 60W Halogen light bulbs. Gone. I found a 4-pack on the shelf, but it wouldn't scan properly. I prefer the type of light they give of compared to LED. Thank you with hugs 🌹❤️
but Daddy Government knows best sadly.
@@djmc8505 yeah, just like Big Brother!
Here in Canada we can still get 60 and 100 watt rough service bulbs rated for 130 volts.
I have always been amused by the packaging of light bulbs. Finally I heard a comedian who noticed the same thing. He said, "You buy heavy rugged batteries, and they are in a thick clear plastic clam shell package welded all around, indestructible, and almost impossible to open. But for fragile light bulbs their design is 'Let's make it out of paper thin cardboard - and let's have it OPEN at the ends.'"
In EU incandescent bulbs have been banned for a decade :) Well, the ban started in 2012, last ones phased out in 2020. But i have not seen an incandescent bulb in a decade, they pretty much were gone immediately.
Well, have you opened a fridge recently?
Incessant disappeared quickly because they fail in less than 1000 hours. LED is so much better than incessant, and so much cheaper to run.
@@johnnodge4327 I wouldn't call them incessant as they do burn out eventually. ;-)
@@Imropie I put an led bulb in my fridge.
@@Imropie yes, it has led lighting inside.
This would be great if LED bulbs actually outlasted incandescent. I have had horrible experiences with LED bulbs so far, they seem to burn out faster than any other bulb I've tried. BigClive did an interesting video explaining some of their common issues.
If your using them in enclosed fixtures, this could be part of your problem. Make sure to only stick LEDS that can handle enclosed fixtures in enclosed fixtures. A lot of time you can't tell which type they are, look at the box, if they are showing them only in open-air environments then they are probably not rated for enclosed fixtures.
@@Tindog81476 That's a very useful tip! They don't exactly announce that when they tout the long life of the bulbs.
Also, don't buy the cheapest of the cheap. Make sure they're a reputable brand. And especially don't buy any of those corn cob style LEDs.
Correct, the LED may be rated for 50k hours, but the cheap "capacitive dropper" power supplies employed... not so much.
LEDs get HOT! Hotter than CFLs which also get extremely hot as well.
I appreciate your voice, Fran. Food for thought!
Thanks Fran!
The ban and its exceptions remind be of RoHs restrictions. You can't use lead solder in your car's electronics but you can have 40 lbs of lead in your car battery.
At least there is a robust recycling network for lead acid batteries. I'm not sure why they can't use lead solder. Maybe it's worker exposure during manufacture? I imagine lead acid batteries are all made in countries with no worker safety laws.
When they started talking about banning lead solder, I bought a lifetime supply. The lead free stuff is crap to work with.
@@javaking1000, If electronics manufacturers hadn't agreed to make all their products with lead-free solder they likely would have been forced to have a return and recycling stream in place to take back all of their old products and thereby keep them out of landfills. The other benefit to the electronics manufacturers is that products made with lead-free solder often have a shorter lifespan and fail prematurely because the satyr doesn't work well, thereby planned obsolescence is improved and profits are increased when they sell you a new device to replace the one that died prematurely.
@@d455avewho banned lead solder?
Not many people heat up the lead in a car battery and breathe in the fumes
Whereas desoldering is a common thing
I use 100W light bulbs for heat in my well house during the winter. I stocked up on them years ago. I haven’t seen any of those in a store for quite a while, but I may go on a search for some more if there are still some around to be had. Dollar General 2 miles away, I think I’ll start there.
You should still be able to get heavy duty incandescent lamps even with the ban - they'll just cost a bit more. On the other hand they should last longer.
eBay has your back on new old stock bulbs
Hello Fran, I am watching this wearing my new "Fran-Lab 1.0" Tee-shirt. Thank you, for this useful public service announcement about the phasing out of the two types of light bulbs used in my home. Like yourself, during the 1990's, I replaced almost all of my home light bulbs with fluorescent bulbs. But, my wife still prefers the old style light bulbs inside the lamps beside both her bed and sofa. So, it looks like this weekend, I will be out looking for both types of bulbs before the ban takes full effect in my area. (smile...smile)
The flicker of most domestic LED replacements I've purchased is quite bothersome. Their regulators (built-in and faders) are often times the cheapest possible, combined with utility power that's far from perfect and LED's end up pulsating and flickering all the time. I wish their regulators were built better.
The incandescent bulbs are more of a full spectrum light vs. LED. If you look at a specific LED spectrum profile, the budget LED's especially horrible. When they are bad, they don't even publish the chart or data. There are gaps in the LED spectrum meaning colors are missing. As an artist, if you choose a color and it is not projected by the light source then the color becomes a grey, or somehow looks different than what you wanted. Your clothing will look different in your house vs. being in sunlight.
Most LED lighting has a spectrum that's rich in Near Ultraviolet light, (the much bluer harmful type that causes harm and destruction to us) and lacks Near Infrared light. Incandescent and Halogen lights shine greatest in the Near Infrared part of the light spectrum, which promotes healing of our tissues and cells in our bodies, reverses Rapid Oxygen Species, (ROS) and aids in melatonin production. The blue "rays" from LED lighting inhibits melatonin production and destroys melatonin, which leads to sleep problems. (Circadian rhythm disruption, insomnia etc) In addition to that, the blue rays increases ROS in our eyes, which causes the development of macular degeneration.
What I like about Led's and incandescent is the instantaneous lighting as opposed to CFL or fluorescent. The new LED's last longer than they used to and use less energy
Don't like that 500mS delay then, eh? (Many don't)
The delay starter (if I remember correctly when I was in industry), was actually protection, provided extra life to the CFL lamps, and were in the more costly ones.
The LEDs are supposed to last longer, but in my experience they only last about a year to a year and a half and then stop working. That's no better than an incandescent and they cost a whole lot more than an incandescent. On the box it will make some outrageous claim to last a decade, but it never gets anywhere near that long.
@@andy-np2od the only LEDs that I've ever had to replace were in an apartment years ago when I wanted decorative Edison bulbs for some of the fixtures, and it so happened that the brand I bought wasn't very reliable - they became very dim in about 6 months. Besides that, I've never had to replace an LED bulb. I actually have a desk lamp in a reading lamp that I just leave on all the time because it's awkward to reach the switch, and they use so little energy there's really no point in turning them off.
@@CSmith-gb1slit’s not only the delay, but they take a while to achieve full brightness.
@@01chippe true, the manufacture I worked for had briefly incorporated a "Bight from the Start" circuit that had a small halogen lamp that came on at first in the center of the lamp to compensate for the fade in, & faded off as the CFL warmed up, this design was very short lived.
I got a stash of carbon filament 60W antique lamps and use one in my green desk lamp. The first one I put in lasted 15 years and I am on just the second one now. I expect that LED lamps may result in more issues just because they are more complicated devices. Fires, shocks or other problems from mass produced offshore bulbs will manifest sooner or later.
Wattages of 25 or less and 200 or higher are still exempted from the ban, as are 3-way and Mogul base bulbs, because they are not considered "general purpose lighting". But rough service bulbs are no longer exempted, because those are what the dollar stores started selling when the original "incandescent ban" went into effect about a decade ago, rather than selling halogen bulbs (like the ones you show) that would meet the 25% energy efficiency improvement that was required back then.
I do have my own stash of incandescent bulbs, but not from these newly manufactured last-gasp bulbs -- it's from old but unused boxes of bulbs I find at the thrift store from time to time. My favorite are the squared-off Philips bulbs from the '90s. I also do see Soft Pink bulbs occasionally, at far less than eBay prices for them.
LEDs are amazing now, don't miss incandescent as much as I thought I would. Those 100w blocks of energy are better used for my LED grow light panels. :)
i dont grow that stuff anymore. local dispensaries selling 90 dollar ounces are better.
@@technodrone313 They start at $200 here, up to about $400. :(
@@ChrisB... Bummer
@@ChrisB...
Ohh… ouch
I don't think the medium base is the criteria. Theatrical lamps (think Marquee) also use the medium base but would qualify as a specialty lamp. That said, I think LEDs have come far enough that they look fine, work with chasers...etc.
On cars, switching away from tungsten lamps, for older cars, can cause issues with turn signals, in particular. The turn signal relay is dependent on the load of the lamp to do its thing. If you put in an LED lamp as a replacement, the blinkers may not work or work properly.
A continual problem with "dimmable" LED lamps is getting them to dim smoothly to zero. While they have them able to dim down to 20% or so but, again, in a theatrical application, they do not dim, reliably, to zero. One trick can be to put an incandescent in the string to give the triac on the dimmer something to work with. Even then many of the dimmable lamps just get erratic below 20% and it can vary from batch-to-batch.
Now that's an interesting problem I hadn't heard about before. Thanks for sharing!
I see the light, thanks for the heads up.
Thanks Fran Blanche for the information, well spoken. Take care.🤓✌️
I agree! 40w (29w) incandescent is the perfect bulb for nighttime home lighting. Regarding automotive bulbs I'm not sure this is even an issue in terms of energy consumption--maybe for EV vehicles there's a negligible difference. Though LED headlights are an absolute disaster for visibility (to the other driver). Secondly, the cooler tint actually reduces visual contrast. LED headlights are a lose-lose proposition.
NEVER USE LED LIGHTNING IN LIVING AREAS. LED LIGHT CREATES DRYNESS OF THE SKIN AND CAUSES PREMATURE AGEING, IT CAN ALSO CAUSE NAUSEA AND HEADACHES AND OFFER NO NOURISHMENT FOR WELL BEING, UNLIKE THE NATURAL LIGHT SOURCE OF INCANDESCENT LIGHT BULBS THAT OFFER VITAMIN AND NOURISHMENT FOR THE MIND AND BODY.
This is BS! I'm sick of being bullied by my government. My house is solar powered so I can waste energy as much as I want to! Is it still possible to buy incandescent bulbs from abroad ?
Illegal (unconstitutional) government overreach. Of course you can just buy specialty bulbs instead. For instance, I noticed recently that the dollar stores are stocking up with 40 watt appliance bulbs, which contrary to what Fran says, fit an ordinary socket. But regardless, it is no business of government to tell the people what products we can make, buy or use.
Thank you for the heads-up! I'd known that the incandescents were going to be banned, but I had no idea that the CFLs were getting banned! I use CFLs, and they seem more reliable than LEDs (for the brands I've used).
It's the same as forcing people to give up gasoline powered cars for electric. Those who can't afford them will be pushed out of driving and without lights at home. The market should be driven by consumer choice, NOT government mandates.
The problem with "letting the market decide" is that individual consumers don't give a shit about negative externalities, only the immediate monetary cost _to them_ . -If- When consumers don't know their ass from a hole in the ground, the invisible hand of the market could use a bit of guidance to keep "consumer choice" from making life shittier for everybody. When amortized for lifespan, LED bulbs are significantly _less_ expensive than incandescent, and they'll only get cheaper as the industry standardizes around mass-producing them.
Yes there is something about incandescent bulb and I do like the low wattage ones for mood lighting. geez it was almost 1 less bulb at the end.
@@Rest323 I think you full of it with the possible exception of Philips UHD, well shall see, as my electric bill one 40 watt light bulb is nothing compared to a refrigerator and if hot an air conditioner, if you really want to save energy look at those.
“More power to ya’-literally!”
Well played, Fran. Well played.
If you have the equipment and materials and know how to do it you can make your own bulbs.
You could even take the old burnt out bulbs and repair them.
I am amazed how they can make glass bulbs on an industrial scale
The speed of making the same shape and size of glass bulbs is really incredible.
Glass blowing is an art
But they figured how to do it
I've lived in Canada since 2020 and Canada banned incandescent bulbs in 2014.
but when could you actually not buy them anymore?
@@linsqopiring6816 Not sure to be honest. I moved up here from the US 3 years ago and I’m staying with my mom going to medical school. I think we have LED bulbs because my mom is a big environmentalist.
@@sinebar I have lived in Canada for more than 50 years. You can still buy incandescent bulbs at Canadian Tire and Home Depot. There aren't tons of them, compared with LEDs, but they are still on the shelf.
I think it was about the same time in California. We had to use compact fluorescent bulbs for a while before the LED bulbs were out in volume.
@@LakeNipissing You can buy incandescent bulbs for "special purpose" including decorator, chandelier bulbs, etc., but try finding a "vanilla" bulb like you'd put in a utility room fixture such as Fran showed. Those are the ones which have gone through a progressive ban in Canada starting with 100W and working down - and that was already several years ago. There may be some territorial carve-outs for all I know, but those standard bulbs are long gone from Southern Ontario.
Would be interesting to see an artisanal bulb industry start up including servicing when the filament burns out. I've noted a drop in the longevity of the led bulbs over the last five years. I can easily replace them once a year yet a few original flat LED bulbs (10+ urs) are still going strong.
And this is the problem. In affordable LED bulbs, while the LEDs themselves might last a theoretical n-thousand hours, the electronics that convert from supply to LED voltage are notoriously unreliable. I’ve found that expensive LEDs like Phillips Hue bulbs last for ages; while cheap brands found at a supermarket die faster than incandescents.
@@youregrammersucks Indeed. Sadly even pricey brands can have poor quality drivers.
I use 40 watt bulbs in my apartment, seems like enough light for me. Thanks for the video Fran!
Thank you for your video, Fran.
I use a mix of bulbs like you.
We do not use some rooms much, so to avoid replacing lamp fixtures, I keep the old bulbs in them.
The LED bulbs have heat sensitive electronics that negate being enclosed or used base up. That means replacing older fixtures. Also some of the LED lamps require discarding the whole fixture when the LED bulbs burn out. That's a waste problem.
For emergency heating, for example, keeping pipes from freezing, incandescent bulbs are a cheap fix. We have used them to keep chicks healthy snd in inexpensive egg incubators
Thanks again.
Goodbye filaments. You were hot for a while there, but now LEDs are cool. 💡 😎
Not totally cool but way less heat than incandescent :)
Hi Fran. I am using kodak led bulb here in Ireland for about a year now. The light from them is pretty good; almost like the traditional incandescents.
"kodak"
A friend of mine runs a chicken hospice, In a northern-tier state. The barn gets cold in the winter. She has always used 100 Watt incandescents to create hot spots that keep the chickens from freezing to death. A nice side effect is increased egg production, for those who still produce. Big trouble ahead at the chicken hospice.
Useful and very informative video - many thanks Fran! As a side note, here across the "Pond", I recently blew the dust off my ham radio gear after many years. Horrific eletromagnetic interference on the lower shortwave bands. After all the usual good electrial housekeeping checks, I swapped out the LED bulbs in my study for incandescents. And: Bingo! RFI levels just like the old days👍. Fortunately, I have the benefit of a rural location as well...
Hmmm! I wonder how am I going to run my dim-bulb-tester for _valve wireless_ testing (for Merkins that's toob radio).
same here
Fran, your going to be the go-to for those of us who want to keep our easy bake ovens going:)
Specialty bulbs will still be available. Including heat bulbs that look exactly like "banned" lamp incandescent.
Some of US,
Saved EVERY incandescent they replaced with an LED.
Just in case we may need them in the future.
And my dim bulb tester for amplifier repair.
I love the efficiency aspect of LED lighting (when implemented properly, and not a garbage capacitive dropper PSU).
But, for price/CRI, there is still nothing that beats good old black body radiation. For example for food to look appetizing in a restaurant, the choice of spending hundreds~thousands on high-CRI LEDs, or tens on a few incandescents, I'd know where my preference would lie.
I'm still using up the last of my old CFLs as well, mostly in utility spaces on the front porch fixture where they don't look bad. But I have a lot fewer left than you - 4-5 maybe? But mostly we went high-CRI LED ages ago.
But all _that_ said, I do still have a use for a heat bulb, since I have a little heated-by-lightbulb storage container in the basement/garage. I run those at about 80% of rating and on a thermostat, so they'll last basically forever. (I am considering grabbing a big 200+ watt bulb before the deadline, though. Just to be safe.)
Near-infrared light is crucial for your immune function. The same light we get from incandescent bulbs.
I’m collecting incandescents before they totally vanish.
Just go outside more in the daytime to aid your immune function
I prefer incandescent for lamps for the quality of light is softer and easier on my eyes. I guess that it is possible to get bulbs in led that have a warmer color range, but I have avoided them and searched out 60 watt or more (depending on the size lamp and area to be lit) and I searched out the incandescent bulbs! I guess I could venture into LED Land and experiment with some low-wattage warm color light bulbs. I guess!
Great information. Thanks.
Thanks for the warning, Fran.