The discourse around the war crime thing is SO STUPID. NOBODY is actually acusing mr beast of war crimes BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAR!!!! It was showing that EVEN during wars that kind of thing was unacceptable. My god. Reopen the schools!
The main point was that he wasn't actually kept in a prison against his will. He could've left at any time. If he had been forced to stay in that room then it would've been as bad as the war crime. But he didn't so it's fine.
@cuineform3708 that kind of thinking totally misses the point of how abusive that situation was. To take advantage of someone despair offering money to basically torture him is absurd and the fact that THAT IS NOT ENOUGH to make him loose his carrear is BAFLING.
The problem with so much of this is that we, as the public, know basically nothing about the context of what’s being discussed and largely have to take both accounts largely on good faith. It’s entirely possible one party is wholly truthful and the other is a malicious liar, but it’s pretty much impossible for one or the other to ever prove that. The reality is probably that Jimmy, and the MB company more broadly, did a lot of messed up things, but Dogpack has been taking those legitimate grievances and exploiting them to the max to get revenge for his being fired out of a personal vendetta rather than being a dutiful public servant.
The debunk video wasn't clearing Mr Beast of all the major stuff like the Ava Kris Tyson stuff or even saying every single thing Dogpack404 said was 100% wrong, it was meant to investigate all the smaller supposed unfounded claims made by DogPack404 in an attempt to hold him to the same standards. Although the debunk video heavily implies Dogpack had ulterior motives to keep making up claims after the popularity he garnered with the first Mr Beast exposed video. I'd recommend people to just watch the original video and make your own conclusions from there. It's not exactly cut-and-dry on both sides and there is some nuance involved and some "He said she said" stuff.
@@poleve5409 there are multiple things Soggy didn't address since this was a primarily a Dogpack video, such as Jimmy being aware of Ava (he joked in the gc), or the feastables lottery game, or the problem with the lamborghini lottery in Australia where people supposedly won but didn't, or the fact that Jimmy's recent videos are far from the authenticity he has claimed them to be And among the things that were addressed, some of Dogpack points, although 8.33% of them, were true. MrBeast ended up apologising to Jake for the terrible solitary confinement challenge, he is under scrutiny due to the crypto stuff, he collabed with Logan and KSI, two people who have been looked at by Coffeezilla. Jimmy is not innocent, it is just that most people now know that Dogpack is manipulative and inempathetic/ not empathetic
8:59 The sound effect is the start of the Terraria Soundtrack Track called Eerie, or as widely known for being the music when the blood moon starts in game. Edit 1: Don't look for the new version, but rather the older one just called Blood Moon. Edit 2: Only now noticed that it was a mistake in the text and it was not that one.
There is context that should be known here in regards to the recorded call segment. It was not Dogpack that recorded the call it was a "mutual" friend as far as we know so there was no reason he would expect the call to be recorded and then sent to Dogpack.
I agree with a lot of what you said about the video and I appreciate your take on sides of Dawson and Soggy, Pyro. Dawson did get a lot wrong and came off as slanderous, however not all of the allegations are falsified. Soggy did a good job of debunking a lot of the misinformation, however, he didn’t completely debunk the serious allegations against Jimmy. It’s good that this video is not completely defending/exonerating Jimmy, but the fact that it’s a hit piece on Dawson due to Soggy’s past dispute with him, that part rubbed me the wrong way. To be clear, I’m not defending Jimmy as he has done the bad things that are confirmed and not only has to be held accountable for them, however he also has the right to defend himself against the misinformation about him, especially against Dawson who’s has made plenty of mistakes with that, and I heavily condemn Dawson and vice versa with the leaked audio of Dawson’s firing as he also has the right to defend himself against that audio leak as well for that as I against slander, defamation, and libel of any kind, even against kind against anyone, even the ones I hate. Nuance and having a middle ground is essential in situations like this. Also, kudos to you for not only asking for consent to show the DMs with Jimmy as well as showing them for honesty and transparency, especially now that it’s been revealed that Jimmy is using Soggy’s video as his unofficial response and reaching out to other content creators to talk about it for him is very suspicious and bad. Jimmy needs to make an official video response, not just for morality sake, but for sanity sake too so we can all finally move on from this. Like you and almost everyone, I’m so burned out with this saga that seems never ending and it’s getting more ridiculous and difficult on who to believe anymore.
The reason why I think this is sus is because he didn’t go into any of the things that had proof like for example the faking signatures thing, hiding the child Labour in making chocolate and so on. It is incredibly sus
8:58. Pyro is asked for the sound effect at "9:25" he says this like 3 times. He looks at 9:21 in the videos instead... Is this evidence that puro eats lead paint chips?
I have seen the anime, it isn’t cope, it genuinely is wholesome. I remember watching it expecting to find a so bad it’s good disaster but I was pleasantly surprised. The only part I remember finding weird was this one scene around when they first meet where the girl kind of has a crush on him and walks in on him in her underwear and tries to kiss him which he quickly shuts down.
For me, I've always knew that Dogpack was kind of a liar because I have seen MrBeast videos, my mom and I are fans, I have watched MrBeast videos hundreds of times, so when Dogpack said "in this video X situation happened" and I, a person who literally knows all the things said on some videos, I was watching the Dogpack videos thinking "He just lied xdd"
Mr. Beast has been DMing Content Creators telling them to boost Soggy Cereal and not to reveal he contacted them. Pyrocynical aired the DM anyway. Soggy was paid by Mr. Beast to do his video and EDITED it in the NC studio. Hmmmm.
The discourse around the war crime thing is SO STUPID. NOBODY is actually acusing mr beast of war crimes BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAR!!!! It was showing that EVEN during wars that kind of thing was unacceptable. My god. Reopen the schools!
The main point was that he wasn't actually kept in a prison against his will. He could've left at any time. If he had been forced to stay in that room then it would've been as bad as the war crime. But he didn't so it's fine.
@cuineform3708 that kind of thinking totally misses the point of how abusive that situation was. To take advantage of someone despair offering money to basically torture him is absurd and the fact that THAT IS NOT ENOUGH to make him loose his carrear is BAFLING.
You’d be surprised what they were saying on Twitter…
@@DoomsdaySlayer doubt i would be surprised lol
@@virginiafernandes336 weddle was a crybaby tbh i would love to be able to get life changing money for staying in a room
The problem with so much of this is that we, as the public, know basically nothing about the context of what’s being discussed and largely have to take both accounts largely on good faith. It’s entirely possible one party is wholly truthful and the other is a malicious liar, but it’s pretty much impossible for one or the other to ever prove that.
The reality is probably that Jimmy, and the MB company more broadly, did a lot of messed up things, but Dogpack has been taking those legitimate grievances and exploiting them to the max to get revenge for his being fired out of a personal vendetta rather than being a dutiful public servant.
Problem? No it's a good thing. From now on I can believe Mr. Beast is a saint with peace in mind. Thank You.
@@poleve5409he’s not a saint him and his company have still done bad things. Just not as bad as he was made out to be.
@@poleve5409wait wtf i just opened the video, do mrbeast make a great counter to dogpack?
The debunk video wasn't clearing Mr Beast of all the major stuff like the Ava Kris Tyson stuff or even saying every single thing Dogpack404 said was 100% wrong, it was meant to investigate all the smaller supposed unfounded claims made by DogPack404 in an attempt to hold him to the same standards. Although the debunk video heavily implies Dogpack had ulterior motives to keep making up claims after the popularity he garnered with the first Mr Beast exposed video. I'd recommend people to just watch the original video and make your own conclusions from there. It's not exactly cut-and-dry on both sides and there is some nuance involved and some "He said she said" stuff.
@@poleve5409 there are multiple things Soggy didn't address since this was a primarily a Dogpack video, such as Jimmy being aware of Ava (he joked in the gc), or the feastables lottery game, or the problem with the lamborghini lottery in Australia where people supposedly won but didn't, or the fact that Jimmy's recent videos are far from the authenticity he has claimed them to be
And among the things that were addressed, some of Dogpack points, although 8.33% of them, were true. MrBeast ended up apologising to Jake for the terrible solitary confinement challenge, he is under scrutiny due to the crypto stuff, he collabed with Logan and KSI, two people who have been looked at by Coffeezilla. Jimmy is not innocent, it is just that most people now know that Dogpack is manipulative and inempathetic/ not empathetic
Mmhhf py-pyro i'm so full, my belly.. hmmmphhff.
bro
Stop this Madness
are you one of his commissions?
Vile and expected
Hot.
8:59 The sound effect is the start of the Terraria Soundtrack Track called Eerie, or as widely known for being the music when the blood moon starts in game.
Edit 1: Don't look for the new version, but rather the older one just called Blood Moon.
Edit 2: Only now noticed that it was a mistake in the text and it was not that one.
No fear and hunger, not worth watching
Imagine if Pegasus doesn’t make a video on DogPack404 💀
18:19
BELLE DELPHINE LMAOOO
Most random thing I've ever seen
There is context that should be known here in regards to the recorded call segment. It was not Dogpack that recorded the call it was a "mutual" friend as far as we know so there was no reason he would expect the call to be recorded and then sent to Dogpack.
HE IS IT'S DONE OVER HE'S IT GOT FINISHED WORSE
Bro turned a video into a 4 hour stream
Only 3:56:48 hours, wow, this should be a main Chanel video.
bad little streamer, go to the jar
1:49:48 *Joker smoking ciggar* You wouldn't get it
34:10 Pyro discovers Bleach by seeing Luke's pfp of Rangiku Matsumoto from Bleach
If you die in rayman legends your character turn into a ballon, inflated, thats probably why pyro likes it so much 😅
1:04:18 flazefire mentioned🗣
Can I get a tldr on what he talks about with the mb slop?
mr beast bad
wait for the dolan video to find out
tldr dogpack lied or smth, and he's a bad person I think now
dog pack lied about 99% of his alligations
tldr everything dogpack said was the truth and Mr beast is evil I think now
I agree with a lot of what you said about the video and I appreciate your take on sides of Dawson and Soggy, Pyro. Dawson did get a lot wrong and came off as slanderous, however not all of the allegations are falsified. Soggy did a good job of debunking a lot of the misinformation, however, he didn’t completely debunk the serious allegations against Jimmy. It’s good that this video is not completely defending/exonerating Jimmy, but the fact that it’s a hit piece on Dawson due to Soggy’s past dispute with him, that part rubbed me the wrong way. To be clear, I’m not defending Jimmy as he has done the bad things that are confirmed and not only has to be held accountable for them, however he also has the right to defend himself against the misinformation about him, especially against Dawson who’s has made plenty of mistakes with that, and I heavily condemn Dawson and vice versa with the leaked audio of Dawson’s firing as he also has the right to defend himself against that audio leak as well for that as I against slander, defamation, and libel of any kind, even against kind against anyone, even the ones I hate. Nuance and having a middle ground is essential in situations like this. Also, kudos to you for not only asking for consent to show the DMs with Jimmy as well as showing them for honesty and transparency, especially now that it’s been revealed that Jimmy is using Soggy’s video as his unofficial response and reaching out to other content creators to talk about it for him is very suspicious and bad. Jimmy needs to make an official video response, not just for morality sake, but for sanity sake too so we can all finally move on from this. Like you and almost everyone, I’m so burned out with this saga that seems never ending and it’s getting more ridiculous and difficult on who to believe anymore.
3:14:16 product placement in the dawson slander interview is crazy 💀
Dude 4 hours for a mr beast update?! SLOOOOOOOPPPPP
The slop was 7 minutes late 😠
The reason why I think this is sus is because he didn’t go into any of the things that had proof like for example the faking signatures thing, hiding the child Labour in making chocolate and so on. It is incredibly sus
How does it take an hour and 5 minutes to go 10 minutes into the video bro these donations are killing me 😭
The slop return
8:58. Pyro is asked for the sound effect at "9:25" he says this like 3 times.
He looks at 9:21 in the videos instead...
Is this evidence that puro eats lead paint chips?
I have seen the anime, it isn’t cope, it genuinely is wholesome. I remember watching it expecting to find a so bad it’s good disaster but I was pleasantly surprised. The only part I remember finding weird was this one scene around when they first meet where the girl kind of has a crush on him and walks in on him in her underwear and tries to kiss him which he quickly shuts down.
Me when pyrocynical live (the streamer) streams
you can never truly get rid of me
Where tf is fear and hunger
god bless the skip ahead button i can now skip 99% of donos because chat is unfunny
He is it's done over. He's it got finished worse
Bro uploaded this on the wrong channel 😭
For me, I've always knew that Dogpack was kind of a liar because I have seen MrBeast videos, my mom and I are fans, I have watched MrBeast videos hundreds of times, so when Dogpack said "in this video X situation happened" and I, a person who literally knows all the things said on some videos, I was watching the Dogpack videos thinking "He just lied xdd"
I thiugu 5 head was suppose to be forehead but mean saying ur forehead is large 😭
tum ah toes
I miss when I was excited for pyro uploads
PLATFORM 2
Slop time
situation
play deepwoken
Bruh I missed it
iys
he is it's done over he's it got finished worse
Jimmy is a pyro glazer huh 😳
Every youtuber will have their day and be revealed to be morally bankrupt. Even you.
No🦲
Mr. Beast has been DMing Content Creators telling them to boost Soggy Cereal and not to reveal he contacted them. Pyrocynical aired the DM anyway. Soggy was paid by Mr. Beast to do his video and EDITED it in the NC studio. Hmmmm.