This was wonderful to see, and David sure knows his history. I know of most of these because my dad told me about them as he flew many. He also got his license in a Jenny. In fact, I'm here because of a forced landing, in his Jenny, on a farm that had two daughters, and wouldn't you know he kept flying back there.
Glorious Mark. Ideal opportunity for a restorer or several restorers to save these classic aircraft. I vaguely know of another similar situation, in the USA.
Fascinating walk through time, thank you so much. As a school boy I saved my lawn mowing money so as to take a monthly learner flight in a Champion, we practiced bombing rabbits 🐇 and very low flying, memories I will never forget.
Radials have a master rod, and the pistons articulate sequencially. An even firing order requires an odd nuber of cylinders, skipping the next adjacent cylinder (e.g. 1, 3, 5, 7, 2, 4, 6, 1, etc.). I love your videos! My family's company restored Waco Taperwings in my youth.
Oh my gosh. What a delightful half-hour. The prices seem crazy low. Then I realize I’d need to transport, assemble, and get checked out. Still…a guy can dream!
Radial four-strokes (single row) are odd so that all the cylinders get to fire evenly and in order every two revolutions. As soon as you add rows though, you can have your even number of cylinders. BTW, buy that Moth, Mark. You know you need it!
How simply put.... I've never heard an answer that was so easy to understand and follow.... So it looked like a 5-cylinder..... And it's four cycle...... So the crank rotates twice before all cylinders are fired.... So the crank rolled 720 °..... And then divide that by 5....???? Which does that mean every 144 degrees you have a piston firing....so..720 divided by 5.....??? And 360 / 5 is 72°... 72 x2 equals 144.. I just made myself dizzy but I believe you.
The hangar had been packed full, with no room to move about. The wings were removed to facilitate storage. The parts are all there, ready for reassembly, and all but two of the planes flew to the hangar. Now, planes are being sold and space is opening up. - Don the Camera Guy.
I believe the turbine engine at 28:30 is a Turbomeca Marbore model II or model VI used in the Fouga Magister, Casa Saeta, and Morane-Saulnier Paris jets, and others.
What a fantastic video. A great insight into yesteryear and an incredibly knowledgeable gentleman. Interesting to hear about your grandads background too. Spitfires have been flying over a lot today here in Chelmsford taking people on pleasure flights in the twin cockpit. Music to the ears!
@@skywagonuniversity5023 I think It's about £3000.....for around half an hour. Seen it up around here with a helicoter getting footage of their flight....probably considerably more with that little add on!
My neabor has a Stinson in his barn, it's been there for many years, it ground looped. In the 60s I would bring friends from school & we would play airplane in my dads luskem in our garage. I've no idea how it's spelled 😊
Quote: "Four-stroke radials have an odd number of cylinders per row, so that a consistent every-other-piston firing order can be maintained, providing smooth operation. For example, on a five-cylinder engine the firing order is 1, 3, 5, 2, 4, and back to cylinder 1."
My grandfather flew mosquitos with 515sqn The Demosoille is rough copy of NZ's pioneer aviator Richard Pearces designs Richard Pearces was known publicly as "Bamboo Richard/Dick" For his construction methods in 1902 ,1914 he also patented ailerons but WW1 wiped out all his and others patents
Demoiselle got my tension it was a first plane that was imported to Finland but unfortunately werent never flown by the lack of proper training. Maybe that flew in the Movie "Those magnifigent men.."
If you're interested in vintage aircraft, watch the movie "Those Magnificent Men In Their Flying Machines". It's old (1960s I believe) and goofy, but it has a lot of actual flying scenes of real and replica early 1900s aircraft, like the Demoiselle.
801 Ford tractor (really an 841 or 851 depending on original transmission) is far improved over the smaller & weaker 9N, 8N, or Jubilee. That engine mod makes it collectible.
Just trying to find out the model number and see if it has a Lyc 0-290 140hp engine I want the P-12, Waco Taperwing, Tiger Moth and am out of currency since I last flew one May 1969, and may want the C3. FTAM--Flying Tigers Aviation Museum
@@skywagonuniversity5023 Unless it’s been converted it’s 6. Quick check is for alternator or generator. 12 needs alt. Look at the Battery cables. - attached to starter is positive ground + will be attached to the frame. 99% are positive ground.
Wow! What a crazy collection of antiques I've never heard of right here in CA!
And very local.
30 minute walk through time and a wealth of knowledge, great video Mark!
Much appreciated!
Yes minutes VS lives
Amazing opponents
This was wonderful to see, and David sure knows his history. I know of most of these because my dad told me about them as he flew many. He also got his license in a Jenny. In fact, I'm here because of a forced landing, in his Jenny, on a farm that had two daughters, and wouldn't you know he kept flying back there.
Ha, amusing.
Haha! Sounds like Clark Gable in the movie: Test Pilot (1938)
Fantastic! Thanks for your time and effort.
Glad it was helpful!
Thats a unbelievable collection, thanks for sharing all of it.
Our pleasure!
Glorious Mark. Ideal opportunity for a restorer or several restorers to save these classic aircraft. I vaguely know of another similar situation, in the USA.
Many of the planes don't require anything other than reassembly and an annual.
I'm gobsmacked.!!
Wow, David is a warehouse of information. Wonderful video Mark.
Glad you enjoyed it
What fun.
A great museum tour while working out! Thanks, Mark.
You are welcome!
Fascinating walk through time, thank you so much. As a school boy I saved my lawn mowing money so as to take a monthly learner flight in a Champion, we practiced bombing rabbits 🐇 and very low flying, memories I will never forget.
What did you bomb the rabbits with.
Mark that Champ looks amazing
Annual it and it flies out of there. I sold it to him a few years ago.
Radials have a master rod, and the pistons articulate sequencially. An even firing order requires an odd nuber of cylinders, skipping the next adjacent cylinder (e.g. 1, 3, 5, 7, 2, 4, 6, 1, etc.). I love your videos! My family's company restored Waco Taperwings in my youth.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Hydra
This gentleman has some really interesting stuff at a very reasonable price, I'd like to buy that BMW ❤
Send a pm to Mark@Skywagons.com, please.
There isn't a BMW in there. It is a 78 Golf Convertible. Is that what you meant.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 o ok my bad Mark, I was sooo much lost in those beautiful collections that I couldn't tell the difference 😀😀
What a cool collection.
The sound of the windmill is nostalgic. I’ve heard it all through my years at home. Thus one does sound like it is in need of service.
Needs grease
Mark...that was a very nice video. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
I think that might be your best so far. Very interesting.
Glad you think so!
Oh my gosh. What a delightful half-hour. The prices seem crazy low. Then I realize I’d need to transport, assemble, and get checked out. Still…a guy can dream!
Yes, there are some expensive logistics involved especially if you are far away.
The best yet! I hope you are successful in moving some of this collection.
One of your best episodes yet, very cool.
Thank you for all of the really good information and content.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Such amazing history in there!!!
Wow! Fantastic!
Glad you like it!
Love the Vantage also!
Well spotted.
Looking forward to Mark's new Tiger Moth University channel !
Hmmmm Not sure about that.
Buy a Tiger Moth in Oz flying for that.
AMAZING !
Wow, what a freaking awesome Collection!
Mark: Very interesting. Thanks for making this effort.
Radial four-strokes (single row) are odd so that all the cylinders get to fire evenly and in order every two revolutions. As soon as you add rows though, you can have your even number of cylinders.
BTW, buy that Moth, Mark. You know you need it!
Thanks about the odd numbers. The Moth. Where would I store it.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 You could find a cocoon somewhere at Placerville, surely? Pretend you're trying to sell it or something, only do it badly.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Hydra
How simply put.... I've never heard an answer that was so easy to understand and follow....
So it looked like a 5-cylinder..... And it's four cycle...... So the crank rotates twice before all cylinders are fired....
So the crank rolled 720 °..... And then divide that by 5....???? Which does that mean every 144 degrees you have a piston firing....so..720 divided by 5.....???
And 360 / 5 is 72°... 72 x2 equals 144.. I just made myself dizzy but I believe you.
That was a real treat Mark, thankyou !
Never understand these people, fantastic collection of wonderful old aircraft with all the bits just randomly scattered all over the place.
The hangar had been packed full, with no room to move about. The wings were removed to facilitate storage. The parts are all there, ready for reassembly, and all but two of the planes flew to the hangar. Now, planes are being sold and space is opening up. - Don the Camera Guy.
Oil pumps in background explains his collection ability.
Not sure what this means.
OMG! I want that Champ!
Come on down.
There was a doctor at our home airport that had a Tiger Moth. I got to fly it once on a very COLD dau; I wish I could have enjoyed it more.😊
Leather flying jacket and silk scarf needed.
I believe the turbine engine at 28:30 is a Turbomeca Marbore model II or model VI used in the Fouga Magister, Casa Saeta, and Morane-Saulnier Paris jets, and others.
Thank you. That is very detailed.
Great tour, you need that Allis Chalmers tractor! The last airplane came from Maine? , interesting!!! That is where I am from.
I might buy the tractor.
I love to see the dust these machines have collected. I feel I could give 'em a wipe and ......
If you wipe them, you'd never stop until they are all flying.
Loved that. Great way to mix it up on your channel. I enjoy the others too, of course. The windmill would drive me crazy tho lol
Yes, that windmill.
That's some walk down memory lane ... ❤ ^v^
Fantastic!
What a fantastic video. A great insight into yesteryear and an incredibly knowledgeable gentleman. Interesting to hear about your grandads background too. Spitfires have been flying over a lot today here in Chelmsford taking people on pleasure flights in the twin cockpit. Music to the ears!
How much is a ride in a Spitfire?
@@skywagonuniversity5023 I think It's about £3000.....for around half an hour. Seen it up around here with a helicoter getting footage of their flight....probably considerably more with that little add on!
My neabor has a Stinson in his barn, it's been there for many years, it ground looped. In the 60s I would bring friends from school & we would play airplane in my dads luskem in our garage. I've no idea how it's spelled 😊
Fun times. BTW it's Luscombe. Thanks.
This is a great Barn fine
Except for 2 or 3 possible flyers that’s a barn full of projects. The champ would be fun and the last one is interesting.
They are projects.
Thanks, Mark!
You realize you now owe us an automobile walk around, right?
Erm, Maybe.
Very nice find mark, no telling what else is in there, im from tx. Originally the squeaking windmill, a familiar sound.. thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
We want to see that Moth Mark! The Public Demands it! ;)
It's priced very fairly but I have nowhere to store it once it is assembled. They are deceptively big.
@skywagonuniversity5023 meh, as we've seen, fully assembled storage is not necessarily a condition of ownership
Quote: "Four-stroke radials have an odd number of cylinders per row, so that a consistent every-other-piston firing order can be maintained, providing smooth operation. For example, on a five-cylinder engine the firing order is 1, 3, 5, 2, 4, and back to cylinder 1."
Ah, That makes sense.
Very interesting thank you very much. M
Thanks for watching! We're glad you found it interesting.
$105 k for that Stinson is an amazing deal !
Caught my attention too! Probably won't last long. Thanks for video Mark.
Someone should buy it.
My grandfather flew mosquitos with 515sqn
The Demosoille is rough copy of NZ's pioneer aviator Richard Pearces designs
Richard Pearces was known publicly as "Bamboo Richard/Dick"
For his construction methods in 1902 ,1914 he also patented ailerons but WW1 wiped out all his and others patents
Interesting.
Very cool, Mark!
Buy it Mark..... Just do it, know you want it.👍
I know.
Hey, thanks!
No problem!
Kermit Weeks would probably be interested in a lot of these.
Demoiselle got my tension it was a first plane that was imported to Finland but unfortunately werent never flown by the lack of proper training. Maybe that flew in the Movie "Those magnifigent men.."
Wow…
Be nice to hear your grandfather‘s story..
01:00 Straight out of "Once upon a time in the West (1968) by Sergio Leone! That windmill is Epic!
THAT'S WHERE I'VE HEARD IT! That was bugging me, thanks!
Bravo.go Ahead
A lot of nice aircraft for sale there. I'd need to win the lottery to get the ones I'd like to have.
Win it.
Awesome I wish I had some extra money to spend.
Excelente 🇺🇸👍🏼🛬🛫👌🏼
This is great. I’m watching while typing
I bet all the antique airplane guys already know about this collection of airplanes.
Some do.
If you're interested in vintage aircraft, watch the movie "Those Magnificent Men In Their Flying Machines". It's old (1960s I believe) and goofy, but it has a lot of actual flying scenes of real and replica early 1900s aircraft, like the Demoiselle.
Thanks for the pointer!
I loved the cut to the windmill 😂
We had to explain that infernal noise.
Not a gripe...just noticed...complete is everything...missing engine is not " complete". All good
Complete means all the parts are there. Not assembled though.
I’d like to have a hangar of airplanes 😜 all seemed to be flying in the mid 2000’s, what happened?
The owner's Father passed away and the sons were too busy.
Jeez. Listen to the man you are interviewing. Is the P-12 a trainer? Yes, with 2 .50 caliber machine guns.
WOW!!!!!
Perfectly stated.
A lot of these aircraft are in the movie: Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines (1965)
They were magnificent (when they were flying)
Mark , I would be interested in the volkswagen Golf if I can get more information about it.
Please e-mail me on (mark@skywagons.com)
Good video 👍🏼i dunno how he can stand that windmill though sucker needs some grease
So the Funk Brothers made tractors before going to work for Motown?
Planes, then tractors, then Funky Town
Boy I like that Champ!! Do you have the skinny/TT/TSMO on it Mark?
Yes, It has about 4500 TT and about 700 SMOH and it is flyable. Just needs an annual.
Radial engines always have odd cylinders to ensure non stop on top/bottom dead centres
He wants a bit for that Moth..can pick up flying examples for that
The market will determine price in the end I think.
I want that C3.
Do you really? I can put you in touch with the owner.
Thanks Mark, but I’m totally out of hangar space. Love your videos. Very informative.
The Aronca C3 engine had 113.49 cu. in. displacement.
Thanks.
I've been gone from NORCAL since 2007...but that looks like Clarkfield?
It's about an hour south of Placerville.
Curious as to why they are in pieces .? Are they in the repair or retro process ?
That hangar was so packed full a few years ago that the only way that everything would fit was to make them smaller by taking off the wings.
Comet engine might have been from an Alexander Eaglerock?
Valhallah! I'll trade you for a barn-full of motorcycles! Or that old Ford tractor ... I'm getting old!
Some assembly required😎
Batteries not included.
The odd number has to do with engine timing, not balance.
radials can only be odd number of cylinders per bank because they are 4 stroke engines. two stroke could be even but they have never been practical.
801 Ford tractor (really an 841 or 851 depending on original transmission) is far improved over the smaller & weaker 9N, 8N, or Jubilee. That engine mod makes it collectible.
How's the price?
Yes, How is $7000.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 Sounds a bit steep.
JEEZ! Only 18k for a Curtis Robin??? Someone better jump on this! Great video.
That is what I thought.
@@skywagonuniversity5023You know, it would look good at Shuttleworth. They could probably find an OX5 to put in it.
I would say a Turbomeca Arriel jet engine for helicopter 28:52
Thank you.
The wright on the waco was not 440hp. It was 300.
Are you sure.
The odd number of cylinders in a radial is to provide consistent every other piston firing order
Mark, are you driving a jag?
Erm, No Not a jag, an Aston Marten
Just trying to find out the model number and see if it has a Lyc 0-290 140hp engine
I want the P-12, Waco Taperwing, Tiger Moth and am out of currency since I last flew one May 1969, and may want the C3. FTAM--Flying Tigers Aviation Museum
Which plane do you want the model number for. Please include a phone number with inquiries.
isn't the Stimson similar to the plane that Amelia Earhart flew on her around the world attempt ..?
Yes, a little.
Wow! That is the whole comment.
Exactly how we felt about it!
LOL I have a 53 Allis Chalmers WD, my brother has a B but I don’t know what year.
This one is a B. How do I know if it is positive or Negative ground.
@@skywagonuniversity5023
Unless it’s been converted it’s 6. Quick check is for alternator or generator.
12 needs alt. Look at the Battery cables. - attached to starter is positive ground + will be attached to the frame.
99% are positive ground.
By the way check front lugs bolts for an L in the end of the bolt.
Those are Left hand thread.
Thank you
My dad who bought his B said he never saw a stock B that was negative. Ground.
His B is a ‘39’
Kermit Weeks creator of fantasy of flight might be interested in some of these aircraft.
Why no details on the 1943 Champ
I have to go back and get the exact specs. It might be simpler if I buy it and bring it here and annual it and sell it.
When does the windmill noise turn into music? Or do you just go to the looney bin?
Luckily, the wind stopped and it settled down during most of the video.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 That was an interesting video. Thanks!
Oh no, where Chevy volt for road trip!?
It was an opportunity to drive something a little more sporty.
Hey---what's the skinny on the RC models???
There are a lot of them scattered about. Also the figurines in boxes along the walls and the model cars.