@@BlackHart730 - Does David Cain even exist in the New 52? The last time that I remember seeing (Or even hearing about.) him was in that Batgirl mini series where Deathstroke drugged her. And that was like, two decades ago.
He won't die, Dark Crisis previews shows Slade alive and well, and will be fighting with Dick and seemingly victorious! (Rumours say Titans tower academy will set on fire by Slade and his group!)
I loooove your chemistry together. You both are beautiful to look at, all of your emotions, fun, anger, laughs, exvitement, frustration. Love your authentic honesty! Do any of you both have a Podcast btw.? On Spotify, patreon?
Never knew you could block a sword strike with your hand and not have it get chopped off, last I knew, she didn't have natural body armor. Guess the writer doesn't know how swords work.
@warwik Xio I figured she had a high pain tolerance giving her profession and to me it would have shown that better if she had taken the hit and was still able to deliver the killing blow on Deathstroke. Not sure why they didn't do it that way. More believable too. And thank you for the info.
Because of reasons - typical DC style since a few years. Don't explain it, just Show it. Even if it makes no Sense. And please Don't hire good editors and let them not talk to each other
What they did to Geo-Force is character assassination besides Terra was alive with Priest, what happened? they killed her behind the scenes? Angel Breaker I don't understand why the character exists. While I liked Deathstroke Inc I never bought Dinah working with Slade even as an undercover agent, there is no multiverse in which she would do that.
The status of Terra is what's really bothering me. She was alive in Rebirth and even in Dark Metal Anthology were she talked with Gar off panel. I think she even was in Markovia with Geo-Force in Doomsday Clock. Did she die off panel or "everything's in continuity" die again? I think even when TTAcademy kids tried summoning Roy with H Dial ouji board we saw Terra's silhouette I think.
Terra is still alive, though where she is still a big question as of now! And yes, Angel breaker is an anime character fanservice that doesn't do anything or bring anything new to the table!
Geo-Force? Great, now that they've butchered all the JLI from the 80's - they're coming for my Outsiders now ... Close DC down already. They cant do anything right.
Are you two suggesting that comic book writers don’t understand how businesses meet a bottom line and stay in business? Shocking. Also Wes, please keep giving Josh a very hard time for his takes.
I have not been reading white knight since the original. Did Murphy like ever show or explain like what happened to Catwoman in this timeline or well I heard Harley and Bruce married...I was like yeah nope out to.
You’re not reading White Knight because of Harley? I wouldn’t like it in main continuity but I love her character in this world. Even liked the spin off she had
Deathstroke becomes more and more a wimp almost everybody kicks your ass today.I miss Pre-N52 badass Deathstroke,There is many Batman titles and a few them are pretty bad in geral.
Im on the side of Wes. Detective Comics was terrible. But then again, I think almost everything DC puts out except 1/2 of Action Comics and White Knight is terrible lately. 🤣
You’re siding with the story that was a character assassination of Geoforce AND claimed that if Deathstroke killed Clown-Hunter it would push Batman to break his rule (kill)!?!?!? Come on now… His own son and his “father” were killed and he didn’t kill. Come on, boytype. Don’t let me down.
@@Epiphany77 I just think that the writing was too far off the rails compared to the Robin book. Batman came off like the goofy Michael Keaton Batman to me in that Detective Comics book, and I thought the art was kind of terrible. I also hate that version of The Riddler. And I was never really a fan of Geoforce. Haha. Hot takes, i know. As for White Knight, I think that you couldnt get more 'Elseworld' than SGM's series. Frank Millers Dark Knight series will always be my "canon" Batman/DC future timeline, but I do really like SGMs books a lot more than almost anything that comes out nowadays.
I need to stop reading this stuff online cause I keep missing little hints. Geo-Force is the bad guy. I miss the old days of comics where it took them a few panels to get their story across.
Didn't Deathstroke ALSO die from one of Speedy's arrow's during the Rebirth run in the late #40's before that run wrapped? If so, did Deathstroke Inc begin with Amanda Waller finding Slade alive and well taking a shower as if nothing happened at all. Ha-Ha.
Reviewers have had a copy of the prologue issue for about 2 to 3 weeks now… but, general conversations about the plans and revealed plot have not been positive overall.
I took Talia’s blade catch to be a nice homage to Batman’s blade catch when he fought her farther. As for Slade’s death? Ha! As you say, death means nothing to DC anymore. Same can be said for Detective Comics too. Although it looks good, the story is a paint it by numbers yawn-fest. Deb Donavan is a cack character and should never be a thing.
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DC should make Deathstroke gay/trans/pan for pride month, that will kill him at least until next pride month. Batman watching riots destroying small businesses (maybe businesses selling DC comics).. such a hero, not the hero we deserve but the hero we need.
Bi-Bruce Wayne eye fucks the living shit out of Anton in "Batman: The Knight 5". As a Spawn reader, Bruce & Anton that's the relationship I want to hear about on CNN and other news media.
The Batman v the rioters thing just sounds like an SJW writer trying to justify the BLM riots and defunding the police. Definitely doesn't reflect any Batman I'm familiar with.
I was excited for Beyond White Knight, until I watched the first 25 minutes of SGM's interview with Perch and it was all identity politics and I was just done with it. DC is dead to me.
Ra's has died before (Once PERMANENTLY in the Death And The Maidens mini series!) , so him dying doesn't really hold much weight.
Agreed. Who really dies in the Big Two comics. Deaths have been cheapened, especially in the current X-Men comics!
@@BlackHart730 - Does David Cain even exist in the New 52? The last time that I remember seeing (Or even hearing about.) him was in that Batgirl mini series where Deathstroke drugged her. And that was like, two decades ago.
Major villain dies. He gets better by walking it off.
He won't die, Dark Crisis previews shows Slade alive and well, and will be fighting with Dick and seemingly victorious! (Rumours say Titans tower academy will set on fire by Slade and his group!)
@@matthewloh19 Slade binge watched too many Teen Titans GO! episodes. Now he is triggered!
The Markovia and geoforce hints went completely over my head, so I never guessed that it was him.
@warwik Xio also that he was interviewed in alpha and Damian mentioning that he was hiding some sort of accent
Remember when Deathstroke used 90% of his brain capacity and could take on the New Teen Titans all by himself?
Yeah, good times when writers were competent and good, but now is missing in today's writers!
I loooove your chemistry together. You both are beautiful to look at, all of your emotions, fun, anger, laughs, exvitement, frustration. Love your authentic honesty!
Do any of you both have a Podcast btw.? On Spotify, patreon?
Never knew you could block a sword strike with your hand and not have it get chopped off, last I knew, she didn't have natural body armor. Guess the writer doesn't know how swords work.
@warwik Xio I figured she had a high pain tolerance giving her profession and to me it would have shown that better if she had taken the hit and was still able to deliver the killing blow on Deathstroke. Not sure why they didn't do it that way. More believable too. And thank you for the info.
Thank you!!!
Doesn't Deathstroke have a healing factors , like wolverine and Deadpool? So how is he dead by just getting stabbed?
Because of reasons - typical DC style since a few years. Don't explain it, just Show it. Even if it makes no Sense.
And please Don't hire good editors and let them not talk to each other
@@HeyJude1987 facts
What they did to Geo-Force is character assassination besides Terra was alive with Priest, what happened? they killed her behind the scenes? Angel Breaker I don't understand why the character exists. While I liked Deathstroke Inc I never bought Dinah working with Slade even as an undercover agent, there is no multiverse in which she would do that.
The status of Terra is what's really bothering me. She was alive in Rebirth and even in Dark Metal Anthology were she talked with Gar off panel. I think she even was in Markovia with Geo-Force in Doomsday Clock. Did she die off panel or "everything's in continuity" die again? I think even when TTAcademy kids tried summoning Roy with H Dial ouji board we saw Terra's silhouette I think.
@@kelpietales4503 She's alive, just not as a hero or in the public eye!
Terra is still alive, though where she is still a big question as of now! And yes, Angel breaker is an anime character fanservice that doesn't do anything or bring anything new to the table!
Geo-Force? Great, now that they've butchered all the JLI from the 80's - they're coming for my Outsiders now ... Close DC down already. They cant do anything right.
This whole war with Talia and Slade was started cause Slade liked to mess with kids even Ghostmaker made a comment about it in deathstroke inc
Yes, I believe he's talking about his relationship with Terra in the Judas Contract storyline!
Are you two suggesting that comic book writers don’t understand how businesses meet a bottom line and stay in business? Shocking. Also Wes, please keep giving Josh a very hard time for his takes.
I think we’re committed to giving each other a hard time! Haha!
Yes!
@@Epiphany77 It’s refreshing when two people can dish it out and take it, agree and disagree, and still stay friends.
Major DC Villain? Tom King? Tom Taylor? Bendis?
I have not been reading white knight since the original. Did Murphy like ever show or explain like what happened to Catwoman in this timeline or well I heard Harley and Bruce married...I was like yeah nope out to.
Happy weekend bossmen!
Plus Bruce Wayne would know how businesses and insurance work more than anyone.
DC nerfs Deathstroke when he fights a Batman family member.
No story. Just more gimmicks. I spare myself from the comics and just buy the occasional action figure that looks cool.
The goal is to put down Batman to push the replacements. This almost never works in practice, and is really cheap to pull off with hack writers.
Agreed. And it looks like DC is pushing Jace Fox to be the new Batman, who DC is implying supposed to be BETTER than Bruce Wayne Batman!
You’re not reading White Knight because of Harley? I wouldn’t like it in main continuity but I love her character in this world. Even liked the spin off she had
Agreed! This is a great interpretation of Harley.
That deathstroke reveal I didn't see coming especially with GeForce being the main villian for this story.
@warwik Xio There's no continuity in these DC books these days!
@ Josh
I think Judge Cassandra Anderson would disagree :).
This and Young Justice seemed to have synergy, having the idiotic reveal of Geo-Force as the villain.
It's called corporate synergy, like what Marvel is doing with their MCU movies and comics!
Deathstroke has a healing factor.
I haven’t picked up a comic in over a year lol
Deathstroke has super human speed strength reaction time and a healing factor. How could an injured Talia AL Ghul hang with him in a fight?
The same way Batman can go toe to toe with him now🤷🏿♂️
god. the fortress seems like the worst comic ever. they should just let me write batman.
Does death even mean anything anymore?
No, it's MEANINGLESS, especially in the Big Two comics at this modern era (Look at the Krakoa X-Men comics!)
Deathstroke becomes more and more a wimp almost everybody kicks your ass today.I miss Pre-N52 badass Deathstroke,There is many Batman titles and a few them are pretty bad in geral.
Im on the side of Wes. Detective Comics was terrible.
But then again, I think almost everything DC puts out except 1/2 of Action Comics and White Knight is terrible lately. 🤣
You’re siding with the story that was a character assassination of Geoforce AND claimed that if Deathstroke killed Clown-Hunter it would push Batman to break his rule (kill)!?!?!? Come on now… His own son and his “father” were killed and he didn’t kill. Come on, boytype. Don’t let me down.
@@Epiphany77 I just think that the writing was too far off the rails compared to the Robin book. Batman came off like the goofy Michael Keaton Batman to me in that Detective Comics book, and I thought the art was kind of terrible.
I also hate that version of The Riddler.
And I was never really a fan of Geoforce. Haha.
Hot takes, i know.
As for White Knight, I think that you couldnt get more 'Elseworld' than SGM's series. Frank Millers Dark Knight series will always be my "canon" Batman/DC future timeline, but I do really like SGMs books a lot more than almost anything that comes out nowadays.
Next comic he’s back from the dead.
I need to stop reading this stuff online cause I keep missing little hints. Geo-Force is the bad guy. I miss the old days of comics where it took them a few panels to get their story across.
The Riddler has a handsome beard, Geo Force makes Doctor Doom and all the other nonsense tells me that the people at DC are in dire need of therapy.🤨
Didn't Deathstroke ALSO die from one of Speedy's arrow's during the Rebirth run in the late #40's before that run wrapped? If so, did Deathstroke Inc begin with Amanda Waller finding Slade alive and well taking a shower as if nothing happened at all. Ha-Ha.
No, I don't think he ever died in that series!
Yeah he dies but Raptor touches his body and gives him leprosy, which actually jump starts his healing factor and brings him back to life.
Good to know that I could take a baseball bat to the Wayne logo and Batman wouldn't mind.
Who cares about your father's legacy, they've got insurance.
There hasn't been much positive feedback on dark crisis? Man I thought folks were super stoked over it
Dark Crisis isn’t out yet so there isn’t any feedback at all.
Reviewers have had a copy of the prologue issue for about 2 to 3 weeks now… but, general conversations about the plans and revealed plot have not been positive overall.
No, they are NOT! They didn't even pick the FCBD special when it came out!
@@matthewloh19 no shit? I had no idea
Detective was.... Terrible.... Or Even worse... It was Tamaki
I took Talia’s blade catch to be a nice homage to Batman’s blade catch when he fought her farther. As for Slade’s death? Ha! As you say, death means nothing to DC anymore. Same can be said for Detective Comics too. Although it looks good, the story is a paint it by numbers yawn-fest. Deb Donavan is a cack character and should never be a thing.
Agreed, it feels like it's going NOWHERE!
Am I only one who really like the reveal 🤔
I did!
I haven't read the story, but that is a stupid looking Riddler. DC, don't ever give him a beard again.
They are trying to match his appearance with Paul Dano's likeness from "The Batman" movie!
@@matthewloh19 Considering I didn’t like The Batman, that makes me hate the look that much more.
Going to guess Deadstroke?
Oh...sh...
I really wanted Grant Wilson back
No, he's dead
Wes is right, it's terrible.
Team Wes here. Detective Comics is super lame
Nah,bro can't want comic books industry die. Looks like it's your industry. We I really want Superman die forever in comics.
Relax, Slade Wilson will NOT die! He is alive and well in the upcoming Dark Crisis event! Previews show him fighting Dick and the Titans!!
He’s definitely not well his mind is gone
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They’re all one universe now. It all happened according to DC. It’s mind boggling.
DC should make Deathstroke gay/trans/pan for pride month, that will kill him at least until next pride month.
Batman watching riots destroying small businesses (maybe businesses selling DC comics).. such a hero, not the hero we deserve but the hero we need.
Batman married a female assassin
Bi-Bruce Wayne eye fucks the living shit out of Anton in "Batman: The Knight 5". As a Spawn reader, Bruce & Anton that's the relationship I want to hear about on CNN and other news media.
Please don't give DC these stupid, terrible ideas! We had enough already! (See Dark nights:metal and death metal)
The better question is who cares?
Batman fortress
We get a new character batifa Batman
The writer loving self inserting in a fantasy bat outfit.
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The Batman v the rioters thing just sounds like an SJW writer trying to justify the BLM riots and defunding the police. Definitely doesn't reflect any Batman I'm familiar with.
I was excited for Beyond White Knight, until I watched the first 25 minutes of SGM's interview with Perch and it was all identity politics and I was just done with it.
DC is dead to me.
Correct! DC is now DC: Dead Comics!