I saw Saltimbanco and, a few years later, I saw Alegría (97/98’ish…I’ve slept since then). I remember the “Fast Track” and, I was left speechless. It was, in a word, PERFECT. I wish I still had my dvd copy (it was pilfered). That performance was my absolute favorite and the 2 songs “Irna” and “Valspena”(?) are really top tier.
In my humble opinion, I think that in the past, artists made movements more fluid, in addition to acrobatics, they danced well, they did choreography more lightly, they were more synchronized. I felt goosebumps just to see the 1997 and 2001, the 2010 is also very good at times. The new version disappointed me a lot! 🙂🕊✌🏼
And I don't understand why they removed the nostalgic old bird from the act, and let Fleur on his place. At the original show the center of the act was the bird, and Valsapena is a song what talks about him and his loneliness.
You´re right. The first artist generation of Cirque Du Soleil artists were Circus Performance exclusively. That´s why you can watch the diferences in lenguage body at the dance and movements moments, their bodys were preparated for any kind of movements combinations. Now they look for athletes who can jump in the air (And that´s not a bad thing, everybody needs a good job) but you won´t be able to watch the same movement skills, some times athletes are able to do incredible things too, but their bodys are hard and rigid and the "dance time". Secondly, the cinematography its really bad in the newest version. They had quality cameras, but it was´nt any care about camera angles and lightning. I can´t even imagine how to improve this beautiful act from the original one, but this was a totally mess.
@@amdhaegar8406 Yes, you are quite right, in the old version I really like the act where an acrobat jumps over the nostalgic old man, in the most recent version they do it almost by force, it looks bad.
I agree but alegria did start a lot longer before this came out which means everyone had a long time to practice 🤷🏾♀️ I won’t give up on either always a big fan x
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Ok, saw them, and I have opinions. 1997 version is TERRIFIC and I really liked it. It's well put together, the music is great, the pacing is perfect, everything fits perfectly. Nothing much to say, nothing to complain about. 2001 version is like the '97 but improved in every aspect you could think. The music has been improved and tweaked here and there, now it sounds more epic. The lighting has been improved but without being overwhelming, the previous version was a tad too dark. Overall the act is 99% identical to the previous version but polished. It feels better, it feels epic and amazing. There's a lot of action but not too much at the same time. Im my opinion, the best incarnation of the act. 2010 version... Oh boy, where do I even begin? The music is... Worse, somehow. It feels hollow, it feels empty, it doesn't feel epic anymore. The new singer is not up to the part. She's way too young, her voice lacks the power and roughness the old lady had. The song as it was imagined doesn't work for her (which they clearly realised later on). And it makes sense, the original singer made the song, she came up with it, so the song is tailored for her, for her specific voice and registry and no one else. Moreover they added a saxophone player ON TOP of the singers at one point and the sax sounds way louder than them both, and it's annoying (and I'm a sax player myself). Also, the act is shorter and what's worse, feels WAY shorter. It lets you wanting more. There are less acrobats in the act, the stage feels empty at times, and some tricks have been shortened or straight out removed. The lighting is horrible, way too much light, it doesn't feel cozy and intimate and mysterious anymore. Also the track has been redesigned for worse. They removed the huge landing mats they had, now they have to land in the track itself in a painted spot, as a consequence of this, the overall usable length has been shortened and the tricks are also shorter. They acrobats for some reason don't perform as they used to. Sometimes there's too much going on, and sometimes nothing at all, they also compressed the overall act and the pacing feels rushed and chaotic, you're not given time to enjoy it. And the end... Feels weird, all of a sudden the act ends, then continues and then ends again. And in both cases, it's underwhelming. 2019 version is... I don't know? Like I don't really love it, but I don't really hate it either. The act is straight up 100% new. Everything has been changed. For better or worse depends on who you ask to. But at least they tried a new formula. I don't know if the singer is the same as in 2010, and it doesn't really matter. Because previously the singer was a protagonist, she was important, she was meant to be heard. In the new soundtrack she sings way less than she previously did, she's in the background, the music sounds over her and not the other way around. It almost seems like they realised her voice is not as powerful and decided to give the instruments a more important position while at the same time putting her in a second place. They still retain the shortened track from 2010 without the landing mats which limits what can be done. The lighting is... Different. It's better than 2010, for sure, but not as good as the original version. Also, the music in general is way too metal, way too synthetic, way too artificial. It wants to be overwhelming and epic but falls short and ends up being something that's just ok. I mean it works, it does the job, but they killed the atmosphere of the caged birds trying to break free to some scenario out of Mad Max. With the clothes I'm gonna be short, I don't like them. Also they removed Pamir and the ugly latex face character which gave the act a funnier atmosphere. They went back to doing a longer act, but removed the pause in the middle of it with soft, heavenly music. Like the pause is still there but way less noticeable. The pacing doesn't feel rushed anymore but it doesn't feel cohesive either. Also the stage is totally different, the lighting is different, the decorations are different. It feels more punk now, more aggressive. So my final verdict would be: 1997 - Just great 2001 - The best by far 2010 - Straight up NO. 2019 - Meh. It's ok. Like it's fine if it's the only version you know about, but not even close to the 2001 version. They definitely improved from 2010 but it has lost its essence. It's fine, just not what it used to be, and somehow still underwhelming. That would be my humble opinion. I'd like to know if you agree or not.
I don't really agree with your takes on the individual singers. I'm not sure if you're aware, but the 1997 and 2001 versions in this video both have entirely different singers (Pierrette Arseneau & Isabelle Corradi in 1997, vs Francesca Gagnon and Ève Montpetit in 2001). I agree that the 2010 singers weren't the best casting, but I don't think she's terrible by any means. Also, the 1997 and 2001 versions had a saxophone player too. I think the issue you're facing is the mixing of the 2010 soundboard, which isn't anything like how the music actually sounded live in the arena - which is how the 1997 and 2001 clips were recorded.
This and the Russian bars always has been my favorites. The new version didn't impress me as much as the old ones, the pace of the act is a bit rushed, the gymnasts are certainly very capable of doing the tricks but the organization is very busy, with a lot of flips happening simultaneously, in a way that even the toughest flips like the triple baclflip and the tsukahara don't impress as much they used to.
Yes I miss russian bars, very sad he is not in this new version (with the same music and angel costumes). It's my all time favorite act had amazing flips they evolved flips from 2003 to 2008
Bueno después de ver la evolución del show Alegría ... creo que en vez de evolucionar involuciono ya que a mi parecer se perdió la esencia del magnífico show de Alegría de antaño... El último show es como ver un grupo de acróbatas tratando de imitar el show del 2010 sin lograrlo... Del nuevo show lo único a resaltar a dos acróbatas (destellos de luz) que aparentemente si vieron el show de Alegría y entendieron de que trataba... En conclusión 1997 y 2001 lo mejor de mejor 👍
I don't understand why they removed the nostalgic old bird from the act, and let Fleur on his place. At the original show the center of the act was the bird, and Valsapena is a song what talks about him and his loneliness.
@@Liofloresss Este acto, así como la canción de Valsapena son, profundamente bellos y tristes, cuando ves el acto y entiendes la letra de Valsapena comprendes que es una alegoría a la vejez, y al desesperado anhelo por la juventud. Claramente el pájaro quiere ser como los Bromx, pero sabe que ya no es ni puede ser como ellos, lo que lo lleva repudiarlos y a la par que lo repudien y es cuando se da cuenta de esto que Valsapena empieza a sonar Tes yeux ne voient que le bleu du ciel La terre a posé des chaînes à tes ailes Pour te garder près d'elle(Tus ojos solo contemplan el azul del cielo, la tierra le ha puesto cadenas a tus alas para aferrarte a ella) y justo después de eso durante la tercera parte del acto tiene un momento para el, por un momento vuelve a ser ligero, libre y ser un rey, tanto así que cierra el acto con una última pirueta. Simplemente magnífico, era mi personaje favorito el viejo Wilfrid(si los 8 pájaros tienen nombres distintos, alguna vez los encontré pero ya no he vuelto a verlos) y con su trasfondo tan profundo, por lo poco que he visto del nuevo show ahora es como si Monsieur Fleur y el Wilfrid hubieran sido combinados en el mismo personaje.
It hearts me that this isn’t coming back with a fight from the OG’s this is the show and the act that changed people’s life…. I know it changed mine Also I’ve watched the new alegria and I love it but it will never be this because it simply isn’t 🤷🏽♀️ Edit Yes I’ve seen all the OG’s in the new alegria but I’m talking about the sets, costumes, music married all together again
Soy mexicano y he visto todos los que han venido desde 2002 con Alegría y en Orlando, siempre vale la pena ver uno de sus espectáculos, para mí Cirque du Soleil es el máximo espectáculo escénico del mundo, los que si nunca me han atraído, son los espectáculos en arenas. Todo pasa por algo y quizás era necesario un receso para la compañía, por desgracia se dio con esta pandemia. I am Mexican and I have seen everyone who has come since 2002 with Alegría and in Orlando, it is always worth seeing one of their shows, for me Cirque du Soleil is the greatest stage show in the world, the ones that have never attracted me are the shows in arenas. Everything happens for a reason and perhaps a recess was necessary for the company, unfortunately this pandemic occurred.
PLEASE make the evolution of Russian Bars act from Alegria. You can find snippets of various videos like their performance on the 1997 in Germany, their performance on the Solstrom TV series in the 2003 episode "Wind Of Imagination". Also one of the flyers called Oleksii Poletaiev has a video on a channel called "Lilok" where from from minute 4:30 shows an except from the presentation. There are also clips from the Japan tour that took place between 2004/2005 and there is also a video entitled "Alegria Evolution Japan" with the wallpaper of Masha Silaeva, which has clips of Russian Bars during that period as well. There is a recorded video of them performing in 2006 in Milano, Italy. And there are video clips from 2007 and 2008 of them performing in Brazil (in São Paulo, Curitiba) and Argentina (Buenos Aires). And finally there is the version they presented in 2010 at the Monte Carlo festival (there is a better quality video of this performance, just search for Les Angels cirque du soleil monte carlo 2010). And after that the presentations in the arena format and the act of the new version
I just really dont like the costume change. It doesnt go with the elegance of the music. And the bird man costume, they exchanged it for a character that looks way to similar to the main character "Levieux" from O". The acrobats are fantastic. I always hate when shows get revamped to something that falls out of the storyline :-/
2001 was the best version of the
Fast Track by far!11
Agree. And the music was superior, by far.
2001 alegría is just perfection
I saw Saltimbanco and, a few years later, I saw Alegría (97/98’ish…I’ve slept since then). I remember the “Fast Track” and, I was left speechless. It was, in a word, PERFECT. I wish I still had my dvd copy (it was pilfered). That performance was my absolute favorite and the 2 songs “Irna” and “Valspena”(?) are really top tier.
In my humble opinion, I think that in the past, artists made movements more fluid, in addition to acrobatics, they danced well, they did choreography more lightly, they were more synchronized. I felt goosebumps just to see the 1997 and 2001, the 2010 is also very good at times. The new version disappointed me a lot! 🙂🕊✌🏼
think about that the new guys don't have 15 years experience or even more whit this act i think it will be just as good or even better in a few years
And I don't understand why they removed the nostalgic old bird from the act, and let Fleur on his place. At the original show the center of the act was the bird, and Valsapena is a song what talks about him and his loneliness.
You´re right.
The first artist generation of Cirque Du Soleil artists were Circus Performance exclusively. That´s why you can watch the diferences in lenguage body at the dance and movements moments, their bodys were preparated for any kind of movements combinations.
Now they look for athletes who can jump in the air (And that´s not a bad thing, everybody needs a good job) but you won´t be able to watch the same movement skills, some times athletes are able to do incredible things too, but their bodys are hard and rigid and the "dance time".
Secondly, the cinematography its really bad in the newest version. They had quality cameras, but it was´nt any care about camera angles and lightning.
I can´t even imagine how to improve this beautiful act from the original one, but this was a totally mess.
@@amdhaegar8406 Yes, you are quite right, in the old version I really like the act where an acrobat jumps over the nostalgic old man, in the most recent version they do it almost by force, it looks bad.
I agree but alegria did start a lot longer before this came out which means everyone had a long time to practice 🤷🏾♀️ I won’t give up on either always a big fan x
Ok, saw them, and I have opinions.
1997 version is TERRIFIC and I really liked it. It's well put together, the music is great, the pacing is perfect, everything fits perfectly. Nothing much to say, nothing to complain about.
2001 version is like the '97 but improved in every aspect you could think. The music has been improved and tweaked here and there, now it sounds more epic. The lighting has been improved but without being overwhelming, the previous version was a tad too dark. Overall the act is 99% identical to the previous version but polished. It feels better, it feels epic and amazing. There's a lot of action but not too much at the same time. Im my opinion, the best incarnation of the act.
2010 version... Oh boy, where do I even begin? The music is... Worse, somehow. It feels hollow, it feels empty, it doesn't feel epic anymore. The new singer is not up to the part. She's way too young, her voice lacks the power and roughness the old lady had. The song as it was imagined doesn't work for her (which they clearly realised later on). And it makes sense, the original singer made the song, she came up with it, so the song is tailored for her, for her specific voice and registry and no one else. Moreover they added a saxophone player ON TOP of the singers at one point and the sax sounds way louder than them both, and it's annoying (and I'm a sax player myself). Also, the act is shorter and what's worse, feels WAY shorter. It lets you wanting more. There are less acrobats in the act, the stage feels empty at times, and some tricks have been shortened or straight out removed. The lighting is horrible, way too much light, it doesn't feel cozy and intimate and mysterious anymore. Also the track has been redesigned for worse. They removed the huge landing mats they had, now they have to land in the track itself in a painted spot, as a consequence of this, the overall usable length has been shortened and the tricks are also shorter. They acrobats for some reason don't perform as they used to. Sometimes there's too much going on, and sometimes nothing at all, they also compressed the overall act and the pacing feels rushed and chaotic, you're not given time to enjoy it. And the end... Feels weird, all of a sudden the act ends, then continues and then ends again. And in both cases, it's underwhelming.
2019 version is... I don't know? Like I don't really love it, but I don't really hate it either. The act is straight up 100% new. Everything has been changed. For better or worse depends on who you ask to. But at least they tried a new formula. I don't know if the singer is the same as in 2010, and it doesn't really matter. Because previously the singer was a protagonist, she was important, she was meant to be heard. In the new soundtrack she sings way less than she previously did, she's in the background, the music sounds over her and not the other way around. It almost seems like they realised her voice is not as powerful and decided to give the instruments a more important position while at the same time putting her in a second place. They still retain the shortened track from 2010 without the landing mats which limits what can be done. The lighting is... Different. It's better than 2010, for sure, but not as good as the original version. Also, the music in general is way too metal, way too synthetic, way too artificial. It wants to be overwhelming and epic but falls short and ends up being something that's just ok. I mean it works, it does the job, but they killed the atmosphere of the caged birds trying to break free to some scenario out of Mad Max. With the clothes I'm gonna be short, I don't like them. Also they removed Pamir and the ugly latex face character which gave the act a funnier atmosphere. They went back to doing a longer act, but removed the pause in the middle of it with soft, heavenly music. Like the pause is still there but way less noticeable. The pacing doesn't feel rushed anymore but it doesn't feel cohesive either. Also the stage is totally different, the lighting is different, the decorations are different. It feels more punk now, more aggressive.
So my final verdict would be:
1997 - Just great
2001 - The best by far
2010 - Straight up NO.
2019 - Meh. It's ok. Like it's fine if it's the only version you know about, but not even close to the 2001 version. They definitely improved from 2010 but it has lost its essence. It's fine, just not what it used to be, and somehow still underwhelming.
That would be my humble opinion. I'd like to know if you agree or not.
Great argument, totally agree (would you like to share your opinion of the rest of my Evolutions?)
I don't really agree with your takes on the individual singers. I'm not sure if you're aware, but the 1997 and 2001 versions in this video both have entirely different singers (Pierrette Arseneau & Isabelle Corradi in 1997, vs Francesca Gagnon and Ève Montpetit in 2001). I agree that the 2010 singers weren't the best casting, but I don't think she's terrible by any means.
Also, the 1997 and 2001 versions had a saxophone player too. I think the issue you're facing is the mixing of the 2010 soundboard, which isn't anything like how the music actually sounded live in the arena - which is how the 1997 and 2001 clips were recorded.
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I agree with you, the 2001 version is easily the best, music, characters and acrobats fitting well into everything...
I prefer the 2001 version, the soundtrack track and the singers are excellent.
This and the Russian bars always has been my favorites. The new version didn't impress me as much as the old ones, the pace of the act is a bit rushed, the gymnasts are certainly very capable of doing the tricks but the organization is very busy, with a lot of flips happening simultaneously, in a way that even the toughest flips like the triple baclflip and the tsukahara don't impress as much they used to.
Yes I miss russian bars, very sad he is not in this new version (with the same music and angel costumes). It's my all time favorite act had amazing flips they evolved flips from 2003 to 2008
Franchesca hace la diferencia ❤
2001 For Ever!!
Bueno después de ver la evolución del show Alegría ... creo que en vez de evolucionar involuciono ya que a mi parecer se perdió la esencia del magnífico show de Alegría de antaño... El último show es como ver un grupo de acróbatas tratando de imitar el show del 2010 sin lograrlo... Del nuevo show lo único a resaltar a dos acróbatas (destellos de luz) que aparentemente si vieron el show de Alegría y entendieron de que trataba... En conclusión 1997 y 2001 lo mejor de mejor 👍
I don't understand why they removed the nostalgic old bird from the act, and let Fleur on his place. At the original show the center of the act was the bird, and Valsapena is a song what talks about him and his loneliness.
I agree, I really think the act has lost some of its grace. I really want to be able to watch it live so that I can actually reach a conclusion!😪
@@marianamaiac I wish you can watch it live… we need those comments from you guys… we will try our best when we will be back…😊
Opino lo mismo, sin el pájaro nostálgico el show no es el mismo.
@@Liofloresss Este acto, así como la canción de Valsapena son, profundamente bellos y tristes, cuando ves el acto y entiendes la letra de Valsapena comprendes que es una alegoría a la vejez, y al desesperado anhelo por la juventud. Claramente el pájaro quiere ser como los Bromx, pero sabe que ya no es ni puede ser como ellos, lo que lo lleva repudiarlos y a la par que lo repudien y es cuando se da cuenta de esto que Valsapena empieza a sonar Tes yeux ne voient que le bleu du ciel
La terre a posé des chaînes à tes ailes Pour te garder près d'elle(Tus ojos solo contemplan el azul del cielo, la tierra le ha puesto cadenas a tus alas para aferrarte a ella) y justo después de eso durante la tercera parte del acto tiene un momento para el, por un momento vuelve a ser ligero, libre y ser un rey, tanto así que cierra el acto con una última pirueta. Simplemente magnífico, era mi personaje favorito el viejo Wilfrid(si los 8 pájaros tienen nombres distintos, alguna vez los encontré pero ya no he vuelto a verlos) y con su trasfondo tan profundo, por lo poco que he visto del nuevo show ahora es como si Monsieur Fleur y el Wilfrid hubieran sido combinados en el mismo personaje.
I loved the old bird not knowing what was going on, it really added a story to the act ❤
It hearts me that this isn’t coming back with a fight from the OG’s this is the show and the act that changed people’s life…. I know it changed mine
Also I’ve watched the new alegria and I love it but it will never be this because it simply isn’t 🤷🏽♀️
Edit
Yes I’ve seen all the OG’s in the new alegria but I’m talking about the sets, costumes, music married all together again
Soy mexicano y he visto todos los que han venido desde 2002 con Alegría y en Orlando, siempre vale la pena ver uno de sus espectáculos, para mí Cirque du Soleil es el máximo espectáculo escénico del mundo, los que si nunca me han atraído, son los espectáculos en arenas. Todo pasa por algo y quizás era necesario un receso para la compañía, por desgracia se dio con esta pandemia.
I am Mexican and I have seen everyone who has come since 2002 with Alegría and in Orlando, it is always worth seeing one of their shows, for me Cirque du Soleil is the greatest stage show in the world, the ones that have never attracted me are the shows in arenas. Everything happens for a reason and perhaps a recess was necessary for the company, unfortunately this pandemic occurred.
Old version is better.
More men.
Facts.
:V
Que hermosura, amo este show.
PLEASE make the evolution of Russian Bars act from Alegria. You can find snippets of various videos like their performance on the 1997 in Germany, their performance on the Solstrom TV series in the 2003 episode "Wind Of Imagination". Also one of the flyers called Oleksii Poletaiev has a video on a channel called "Lilok" where from from minute 4:30 shows an except from the presentation. There are also clips from the Japan tour that took place between 2004/2005 and there is also a video entitled "Alegria Evolution Japan" with the wallpaper of Masha Silaeva, which has clips of Russian Bars during that period as well. There is a recorded video of them performing in 2006 in Milano, Italy. And there are video clips from 2007 and 2008 of them performing in Brazil (in São Paulo, Curitiba) and Argentina (Buenos Aires). And finally there is the version they presented in 2010 at the Monte Carlo festival (there is a better quality video of this performance, just search for Les Angels cirque du soleil monte carlo 2010). And after that the presentations in the arena format and the act of the new version
The new 2020's version looks far from the original bird-cage/bird-themed aesthetics. It's more like a Alegría-meets-Diesel-Punk kind of version.
Haha 😂 I agree
I just really dont like the costume change. It doesnt go with the elegance of the music. And the bird man costume, they exchanged it for a character that looks way to similar to the main character "Levieux" from O". The acrobats are fantastic. I always hate when shows get revamped to something that falls out of the storyline :-/
Where did you find the footage from 1997?
You can easily find on daily motion, I think
It was recorded in Berlin, 1997, first european tour
@@RafaelOliveira-go1iw thanks :) i found it. Sadly it misses the contortion act
@@jeroenvandijk1255 I didn't find it... could you send me the link?