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- As the world has been transfixed by the opioid crisis in North America, another crisis, just as serious, has been unfolding almost unreported across Africa.
The addictive prescription painkiller Tramadol has exploded in popularity, used by everyone from workers trying to cope with long hours and grueling labor, to university students looking to have a good time. It’s even the drug of choice for members of Islamist terrorist group Boko Haram, fueling their violence.
Now, governments are threatening to crack down, using the same War on Drugs methods of repression that have failed everywhere else. And meanwhile, as counterfeit pills flood the continent, new research is questioning whether people are even taking real Tramadol at all.
In The War On Drugs, we examine the social implications of prohibition worldwide. Any attempt to shut down the trade in drugs such as heroin, cocaine, ecstasy, ketamine or weed invariably sets off a chain of events that just makes things worse, leaving a trail of death, illness, violence, slavery, addiction, crime and inequality across the globe. Everyone loses - except, in a weird kind of way, the drugs themselves.
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One big problem is it has antidepressant properties so when you become physically addicted to it and try to stop, you’re experiencing not only opiate withdrawal but also compounded depression.
Yup, can vouch for that.
@@kylekennedy420 same it’s awful. Never again.
Definitely can agree.
I can tel you’re not an opiate user. ALL opiates make you cry. Depressed and suicidal when you’re withdrawing. It has nothing to do with a particular subset being an “antidepressant” as well
It definitely lifts your mood tho
Any opiate users least favorite statement, "I've got tramadols"
Literally lol 😆
Tramadol is a joke.
Av u ever done a rip off em though??? Ooh its bad. It lasts for weeks n it makes u stink like beef burgers
When I was using I’d use these to ease the sickness but yeah last resort
I couldn’t take this video serious after that. It wasn’t even considered a controlled substance until 8 or so years ago. The only thing Tramadol is good for is kicking dope sickness if you have nothing else. It will at least get you to where you can function.
I think the guy digging wells all day has the right to take a few mild pain killers
Him rocking climbing tunnels he made had me coming to type this
I agree bro fr
That's so true
YES - Tramadol also has the same chemical structure as an anti-depressant called EFFEXOR so its a DOUBLE Dependency. After 5 years of use its much harder to get an erection due to the 'Effexor' effect.
@@kunalsoni1315 After a few years to pills stop working and when your relaxing on your day off your in pain all the time. Its a trap for sure.
Before I got clean from opiates I always had a stash of tramadol just incase I couldn't get my daily fix. So glad I've been clean for the last 6 yrs
I've been clean for 6 years as well. Opanas and heroin. I took Suboxone up until about a year ago, but I still consider that time as clean time. I still don't feel right so I'm actually thinking about going back to Suboxone again and just accept the fact that I'll never feel completely normal without it. Congratulations to you though, 6 years is huge and although I don't know you I'm extremely proud of you
❤👊🤐
Damn bro ik its f hard 😪
And you actually got high??? I just tried taking it for methadone withdrawal and it didn't even get me well, let alone high. Complete joke of a drug.
@@prshess dude be honest.... Has Tramadol ever got you high? 😑
I was hooked on tramadol for years. I abused them..taking 10 a day at one point. You wouldn't think it, but when I quit cold-turkey, it put me thru some horrible withdrawals comparable to more extreme drugs. (& yes, I would know) ..the symptoms lasted for almost a month. The brain zaps were the weirdest feeling and very uncomfortable. Get off them shits now, if you are using them. Step yourself down slowly and don't look back. Take care 🙏
That's because Tramadol is also an SNRI (Serotonin-Noradrenaline Reuptake Inhibitor) antidepressants, so you are actually going through two different withdrawals at once. Congrats on getting off them!
Yup it's a synthetic opioid and SNRI that's a crappy mix to come off of, that's like coming off Suboxone and SSRI at the same time your body and mind are gonna go through it heavy for at least a month. I've come off heroin, pain killers, fentanyl, Suboxone, methadone and the Suboxone and methadone were the worst to come off of. Withdrawal lasts for a whole month cause it's not natural like heroin or fentanyl with a few day withdrawal maybe a week Cause it's synthetic opioids like tramadol which mess you up pretty bad when it comes to coming off them the withdrawal is brutal especially cold turkey forget about it.
Yea i get the brain zaps if i dont take my anti depressant and its strange af
Took 32 pills under the span of 1 day, was high for 3 days straight. Probably the shittiest high ever. Just felt sluggish and couldnt poop.
@Travluminati Lol I just noticed you clearly can't read. Maybe if you finished you would see I clearly said fentanyl is a synthetic dipshit 🤡. I said it lasts so long cause it's not natural like heroin then made the typo "or" fentanyl which lasts blah blah cause it's synthetic dipshit. I wasn't saying fentanyl was natural lol. Said forgot the period at the end my bad 🤣🤡
"We don't understand why is found in the roots of the plant!?!?!" Also, puts 3 tons of it in a hole in the ground and sets it on fire.
Lmfao foreal!
hahaha I was wondering if all that dope being burnt is going to get people around it high af
Lol. Though to be fair, that was only one particularly lareg seizure in one small area. Who knows how far away the plants that are being tested are? I suppose the runoff from all the particles in the smoke that eventually falls to the ground and gets washed into waterways could have gotten into plants relatively far away.
@@Mockturtlesoup1 maybe their lab experiment is contiminated
Reminds me of a documentary where Mexican and US authorities burn acres of Marijuana. All the law enforcement, journalist, and camera crew were high af, still having some officer try to explain just how much Marijuana they're burning is just a dent
This woman said seizures are not common with Tramadol. It is the most common thing with a high dose.
Happened to me
Had Serotonin Syndrome with a seizure for the grand finale leading to a torn trapezious muscle. That happened at 75mg as prescribed without any other drugs present.
Yeah wtf
for real, and also she said tramadol was the "most potent post surgery pain medication" it's actually the LEAST potent, but if you knew anything at all about opioids, you'd know that its more useful as an antidepressant because its not an actual opioid. Idk about you, but to an actual opiate addict, tramadol is virtually worthless.
Happened to me
I injured my back in the Army and used opioids for occasional flareups for about ten years. Since about 2012, my doctors have stopped prescribing tramadol, hydrocodone, and pretty much all pain relievers. I used to be able to have a decent quality of life, but now I can't even get this stuff. (I live in NY. I hear it's not as bad in some states.)
It's really depressing to see everyone talking about getting high with it. It clearly shows why people like me have such a hard time getting reasonable medical treatment.
Get on methadone its better then tramadol
Kratom saved my life!
@@jmartinez5888 DITTO, KRATOM HELPED ME GET OFF NORCO
Kratom left me with severe mood swings and never took care of my nerve pain. If you have chronic pain then methadone is the best way to go. As long as you don't use drugs outside of what they give you you can get plenty of take homes at one of their clinics. Some will restrict the carry amount of take homes so the most you can get is a week's worth. Others will do a month so it's like having a full script, although it takes months to build trust with them so at first you have to come in almost every day. But I think it's worth it. I walked into a clinic haven't been an actual addict but did have opiate experience and they started me the same day on a low dose and slowly worked me up over a few weeks span til I felt comfortable. I'm not saying it's for everyone but this drug has saved me in so many ways. I can finally work again after 2 shattered discs 🙌
@@azkadeelia glad you improved the quality of your life and the program is working for you !
knowing that my country has only one rehabilitation center hurts my heart
Sorry bro
Cameroon? Home to Joel Embid. Hope Cameroon gets better n better.
Im sorry, friend. Hoping things will improve somehow
Believe it or not getting off Tramadol doesn’t have to be a horrible experience. Corporations cash in on getting ppl off opioids but support from friends & family can be very effective. Many more ppl could get help if corps weren’t so good at cashing in on it.
It may only have one rehab centre but it has lots of open sewers, flies and gang rape, so try to stay positive!
I absolutely love this series, please keep up series like these
Hell yeah let's keep up the moral degradation of the human experience. WTF
@@Arrjaayyy said like someone who thinks the war on drugs is _working_ (it isnt, btw, which is why we need programming on it)
Is that a JoJo's reference
@@Arrjaayyy I believe the original comment was in regards to the quality of the production itself, and in fact the series itself, not the content.
@@RemoWilliams1227 my comment was sarcastic.
Tramadol was the first pill that I became addicted to. I should have learned my lesson now I am trying to recover from another heroin relapse. What a life.
do a line of coke
@@young98-cc5ls no crack is best
Good luck. I hope you can beat it.
Day 17 clean after two years IV heroin. 7 day taper plan with subutex/suboxone, lyrica or benzos for the next 3-4 days. Got clean with zero pain. But yeah...the hard part is now. Depressed, fatigued, and craving like a mofo.
@@julienwuu4055 smoke weed
I was once using loads of tramadol due to a injury, i was on it for many years. I was taking 400mg in the morning and 400mg at night. It makes you so itchy. It is disgusting, yes it is a weaker opiate than others, however the withdrawals of tramadol is not like any other. It takes a very very very long time to completely come clean from them. Ive been controlling my pain with non opiate based pain killers at the moment, and my advice to all youngsters, dont do it.. trust me, its not worth it. I have permanent side effects till today like severe restless leg syndrome. I really hope atleast one person takes my advice and throws all their tramadol out the bin.
Kratoms is the way!
@@jmartinez5888 pesticides/heavy metals, ingesting ur body with some uncontrolled powder. Yea not the best idea.
Kratom is still an opioid, not only that it has so many psychoactive alkaloids its not only attaching to supraspinal mu- and delta- opioid receptors, it also has effects on seretonin and Dopamin receptors. Which can give you pretty severe side effects.
It's also an immunstimulant, so side effects like hair loss aren't unheard of. There are also a certain amount of unfortunate individuals which can't metabolize Kratom, which therefore leads to liver failure.
There are literally thousands of side effects, for what? A safer opioid??? Not at all, you will still have withdrawal effects from it. It is physically more damaging then normal produced pharma opioids.
The only thing is, it might be a weaker opioid then usual, but then again tramadol and kratom are on the same level in my subjective experience so it's definitely not the weakest opioid out there.
You can absolutely get addicted to it as fast as you get from other opioids. Which can lead to the route of using even stronger stuff the further the addiction goes. Same ending.
So no, don't take kratom, don't advertise it as a safe alternative. I hate people like you, so many kratom addicts running around thinking they are above junkies, even tho they themselves are opioid addicts. Just absolutely crazy to me
I have to depend on tramadol due to a car wreck and to a point that they want to amputate my leg
In terms of don't are you talking recreational or both? A simler question would be would you have not taken it if you knew how it would go?
Dont use methadone it takes three months of withdrawl
Tramadol is a huge problem here in Nepal too. It is cheap and easily available which mostly comes from India, which is mixed with other medical drugs for higher potency. We don't have access to more popular drugs like heroin or cocaine. So people here usually go for these cheap tramadol. And seizures are common for overdose of tramadol or we simply call it "T".
Are you talking about blue capsules
@@yashnamdev2431 Yeah, or green with pale yellow, I take those too and in the bottle it says that it comes from the India, my country it´s an ocean away from India and still I get the bottle at 2USD I can imagine it going cheaper in Nepal that it's at the border
People in Nepal seriously can't get heroin or cocaine? Well, the coke I can understand because South America is a very long ways away but you guys are right across the border from India. They grow incredible amounts of opium poppies there.
That sounds like homemade pills with a mix of chemicals. Do not be surprised if there is more than just tramadol in them to get the user high. Tramadol isn't a good drug to get high on, you would get sick. And yes, i've tried tramadol when the doctor gave me a bunch of them. I threw them away and they where medicinialy clean, made me sick to my stomach every day. I rather took the pain with a broken arm than use tramadol.
@@snapdragon6601 Nah I think the Original Poster is a young teen or simply too young. There is def coke and heroine in nepal espicially coz of china being so close to them. Chinas drug lords have been smuggling in kilos of coke and heroine even hashish and opium. China has long been an exporter/producer of opium. If you're trying to get off opioids , I suggest to go gym. Start weight training with reduction of use. Use less each day whilst also training and make sure to use a sauna to sweat out the harmful toxic stuff in your body and also to relax your muscles. Steam room is also good. As you reduce your intake of the opioid with weight training your tolerance will return and your desire to do more will also be reduced. You have to recondition your brain to not be dependent and the best way is GYM
I really don't understand why its some international crisis if a dude that digs water wells all day wants to pop a couple weak ass trammys for his back. I know opiates are a problem but the pearl clutching over opiates is pretty bad too imo.
Being a ex addict I can tell you if your out and take 15 to 20 tramadol it gives you a high and also take away sickness. I was ordering tramadol from a online pharmacy back in 2012 .
It also causes seizures at high doses.
I battled daily with tramadol addiction for a year and when i overdosed, i finally got rid of using any kinds of drugs. Thank god that i have such a strong family and my beautiful wife with me.
Tramadol was the start of my whole addiction. Ended with Heroin of course.
I take tramadol 6 year. Laters i start using heroin. 🙏🙏🙏. UK.
I take tramadol but I ain't a smackhead
Milk was the start of mine. Then sugar. Then coffee. Then bullshit news. Then fried chicken. Then fries.
@@normanturbitt7644 just go n buy a bag ya lightweight.
Tramadol is not even an opioid. You would need like 100x the tramadol dose to equal that of oxycodone. How is it even possible to become addicted to stronger opioids by starting with Tramadol? Wtf.
Once again ...
We’d like to congratulate drugs
For winning the war on Drugs
Seems like they always win..must be performance enhancing substances
True
@Charles Bronson JB ?
Justin bieber .?
@@originalunoriginal4055 lmao i thought the same thing too. then i realized joe biden
whoever thinks it is possible to win a "war on drugs" is a clueless moron
Well presented and reasoned. Thank you vice, good reporting 👍
Tramadol don’t get you high but helps boost ur mood if u suffer from depression. You have to take quite a few to get this affect and ur tolerance builds very quick. Withdrawals are horrible and would not recommend abusing them, it’s not worth it.
Tramadol def does get you high lmfaooo it works on opioid receptors
I’m so glad you covered this topic and as usual you hit all the major points! You never disappoint
They almost always disappoint bro what are you talking about.
Idk what this woman is talking about though. Tramadol is notorious for causing seizures, extreme nausea, and akathesia on its own. The drug is cheap that using another drug to mimic the high would probably cause you to lose money. It also isn't very common for other opioids to cause seizures like this because tramadol is basically the only opioid like drug that has SSRI properties which is what throws your body into a seizure.
Tramadol can definitely cause people to collapse, I've seen it. Very weird instances too because they don't nod off, it's not an overdose and they are never in danger of dying. Their heart rates aren't even low. But they lose consciousness completely and just fall right over, coming out of it 10 or 20 minutes later. Very strange
Seizures?
Because Tramadol is weak NMDA Antagonism also.
Tramadol gives you a mental boost tht helps you work but it also gives you a short temper. It’s weird but it ultimately led to dope
They are very addicted, if your been on them for a while the withdraws are mental, insomnia, waking up super sweaty, feeling nauseous in the morning. i always used them when playing video games, in a weird way it made me wired where i can play for hours.
Exactly
Percocets are worse
Me looking at this in Africa and a regular user of Tramadol😳👀👀
Hehe....same. I love it
me too shits crazy i cant sleep without it
@@aliabdelaziz905 Are we addicts...lmao😳
@@honeybeelove63 no you’re fine these people are totally different ( sarcasm)
@@honeybeelove63 Ask yourself this simple question. Could you go through the day tomorrow without taking a single pill ? If you could then maybe you aren't yet addicted but you should definitely beware. If you can't spend a day without it then you are 100% addicted.
It's possible to live free of these substances, beside the addiction risks, it negatively impacts your body, stops your hormone production. Reclaim your life by Rejecting these poisons.
Best of luck to you all, i was able to quit opiates and i believe in you all.
This is my favorite show that isn’t Hamilton’s Pharmacopeia.
I understandont u
You should try watching 1 star reviews
Bring back the one and only chemist with the balls to show manufacturers, dealers and even sometimes trying it on camera.
He and this guy is the only two I respect at vice. Showing the real truth on drugs.
I hate that guy he's so annoying! Lol
@@Awimpyman69 that guy sucks too lol
Man, Tramadol works perfect for me.
Had a back injury and had a recent back surgery last year. And it definitely helps me with pain when I’m at work or when I hurt.
But Tramadol is not for everybody.
Thanks to tramadol I can walk instead of wheelchairing. My prescription is 200 x 50 mg/ 25 days and no side effects. Been on tramadol 3-4 years now.
Do back exercises to increase your back and core muscle mass most back pain is because of weak back, core muscles and having your spine holding it all is bad
A recreational tramadol market sounds like the first steps on the road to a proper fentanyl fueled opiate epidemic. We’ll see how long it takes for the dealers to smarten up and start cutting a much more efficient and opioid-dense product with a much “higher” ceiling
I'm pretty sure that Africa has more pressing issues than freaking Tramadol!
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Pirates, maybe
America has bigger issues than the opiate crisis too, but we're still talking about it. It's always worth talking about.
I was prescribed Tramadol as a teen. Had absolutely no idea it was a recreational drug. Scary to see how it can affect people.
i got it after my wisdom teeth were removed, it got rid of the pain and that was pretty much it, no withdrawal luckily
its a pain medication, not a recreational drug. learn..
@@kadzo6614 Obviously? I said I was PERSCRIBED. The entire documentary is about people using it recreationaly...
The lady reporting about the Tramadol crisis in Africa is well-articulated, and her expertise is magnanimous.
If I lived in Africa and had chronic pain, I'd just grow some poppies
Stay out of Africa you colonizers
@Wayne Kerr ahahahhahahahha
@@KingK346 we're not colonists, colonists haven't existed for over 30yrs(apartheid)
@@KingK346 What are you going to do about it?
@Wayne Kerr no I’m white and white people were and continue to be colonisers across the globe. Accept the guilt and educate yourself
With all the BS going on in the world. Ppl just want to get high and not worry about anything. Let them. Its their life.
People can smoke and drink their lives away legally but the second you wanna have some fun it’s a problem. I don’t know how the world got like this man
I mean tbf, 30 second unskippable ad at start made me want some wonky tablets too smh
ADS??! its 2021 kek
@@3DKLUB not everyone is gonna pay for premium or use a vpn mate
I just signed up to buy sell buy sell crypto
@@illeagle9560 Brave Browser has integrated adblock. Or just install uBlock origins plugin. No need to pay for anything..
@@3DKLUB ooo thank you I'll check into that, I wasn't aware. My bad for being a dummy
Tramadol lol that’s cute
Ikr lol
I love this u guys keep doing u as Seriosyly it's so intriguing
Instead of burning🔥, they should ration to those who are really in need of this drug for free.
Back when I did drugs
Dealer "I got tramadol"
Me "ugh......I guess I'll take some...if they are cheap"
Great video,keep it up !🖨
According to this video, a pain killer a little stronger than motrin is the root of all evil in Africa?
I'm more inclined to believe "tramadol"(as a term in Africa anyway) is a catch all term for a slew of assorted designer drugs
Motrin is an nsaid, no recreational use or euphoric effect at all. Tramadol is a synthetic opioid which people use recreationally and causes euphoria, especially in higher doses. I doubt it's very hard to get real tramadol in Africa. But I would have no idea if it were some sort of slang for different designer drugs. I've had experience with Tramadol as well, it felt like taking any other opiate. My dog was even prescribed it after it broke its leg.
Wth are you talking about? When did they even remotely call it the root of all evil?
Me: have never heard about tramadol anywhere! This documentary is so dramatic! It might be only an issue in few african countries, they are selling as if it is killing the whole continent 😑
I’m happy with the direction VICE is going, reminds me of the good old 2012 - 2017 days
Remember 2005-2010 when it was just published as a zine? DO'S AND DONT'S were always hilarious.
Yeee
It's over the counter where I live and I got addicted after a little while. Shits crazy
Where do you live if you don’t mind me asking
@@MrGanjaBandits somewhere in south America 🤫
😂😂
@David David Probably has to do with dosage. Something that is over the counter is going to be what, 10-50x cheaper compared to anything on the street? All the risk is removed, the batches are big and clean, and therefore you'll get more opiate for the same price. If you're paying street prices for heroin vs pharmacy price tramadol I would imagine you'd have worse withdrawals per $ with Tram.
@@MrGanjaBandits you can get tramadol over the counter in Mexico
In México too and i was in the same situation
I'd been on Tramadol for 4 years as it helped block out the crap in my life. But so glad i got off it, was starting to become an expensive habbit.
I lived in Liberia for more than two years and the tramador use was hurting a lot of communities in Monrovia especially
As a Cameroonian I can say Tramadol is a big problem in Cameroon, I've seen people mix tramadol with alcohol and weed. That could kill you.
No it can’t
It's actually a really big problems and they are so cheap you can get them virtually anywhere here in nigeria
Tramadol is no joke. Got this prescribed for sleep awhile back. It’ll knock you out. I felt myself getting at least mentally addicted very soon after starting it so I stopped.
I just picked up my tramadol script yesterday too lol. I have em for some pinched nerves and slipped disc's in my back.
Clean since 2013 and definitely don't miss it
Who cares
@@famousbowl9926 obviously not you thanks though!
Congrats bro
I use to take these years ago in school. They helped me alot with classes whenever I felt super depressed.
I appreciate the news stories in Africa no one else covers
Nice work 🎆🎇✨
This is the vice I love & know. Thank you.
That is so sad. I got off of all pain meds because my back injury got worse. Pain is how your body screams for help. I would rather feel the pain and try to fix the cause. Pain meds, in my opinion, should only be used for surgery and recover time for a few days. Not months and years........I pray for everyone who struggles with this......🙏🙏🙏 I must update this post. I watched how people in other countries, other circumstances and other governments deal with addiction. I cried the entire day. This is 2 days ago. I apologize for not researching this world wide issue with out knowing what is happening in the world. I pray and hope other addicted people get the help they need........🙏💖🙏
🙁🙏 Ain't easy
@@DonnieDarko1, "ain't easy"? If I can do it on my own, anyone who can see the future of addiction can do it.
@@daynaswan427 well aren't you Gods effing gift to the entire planet? Like I said, it ain't easy, which also means it is possible but very, extremely difficult in cases.
I just don't think everyone can, not everyone has the same extent of severity of injuries. That this needs any further elaboration is problematic.
I also know it's a huge hustle in the billions of dollars, the Sakler family (Purdue Pharma, etc) found guilty, gotta pay up $ 4.2 billion in successful lawsuit. But that will never ever bring back all the lives lost and those lives that continue to live empty walking around like zombies, etc. It's personal for me too. Lots of good folks close to heart are forever screwed.
I'm truly glad you were the few that made it, I hope you continue to inspire everyone around so they could do the same and leave that shieet behind through alternative methods and will-power. 🙏❤
@@daynaswan427 incredible how easy it is to spot an American. Chronic pain exists you daft cow. Some people need to do hard labour or get no food.
@@DonnieDarko1, yes. I watched the video on people in other countries. I cried an entire day. How can the government of those countries just let this happen? If I were young, strong and wealthy I would do something. Oh dear God please help these people!!!!!......😥🙏😥
Excellent
I was in a really bad car accident in late January when I was discharged from the hospital they put me on tramadol. Had surgery on my knee and thigh I can’t relate to the negative side affects at all. Tramadol doesn’t make me feel the way they are describing nor do I have those side affects . According to my doctor I am prescribed a moderate amount since I have so much pain. I take it as needed so far I don’t feel addicted . This is sad for the people to be going through ! But why wouldn’t they just take less once they start feeling those urges slowly start growing . I felt similar on morphine but I lowered my dose and slowly got off of it before I felt addicted .
If you take it as prescribed it won’t get you high it’s not like other opioids, at doses like 200-300 mgs it definitely gets you high
Crazy Tramaudal never would of thought 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Idk what these people talking about i come from Albania where you can get literally everything you want at the drug store but everyone is on tramadol i fucking love it
One of Vice’s best series. I always look forward to an episode.
You are amazing 👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏🙏
Sackler Fam has to get their money somehow, guy😆. Also, love Vice, and this series in particular. Steady on, lads.
/!\ Something to know about Tramadol /!\
In addition of the pain killer effect, Tramadol interact in the brain as antidepressant.
By taking too much Tramadol, you're exposing yourself to the serotonin syndrome, which can lead to death.
war on drugs 2005: bad
war on drugs 2010: good
war on drugs 2020: bad
war on drugs 2021: good
Because nuance doesn’t exist in complex situations.
War on drugs 1960, War on drugs 1970, war on drugs 1980 on and on.
Thanks
Used it for years but it suddenly started to give me anxiety
How do you guys even do it? After surgery i was given opioid. Took it once and i had to stop, made me feel awful
Same. I couldn't stomach it.
what are you talking about, Tramadol does reduce your seizure threshold that is exactly why people at risk get seizures in a wink
Can confirm that tramadol lowers seizure threshold. I dislocated both of my shoulders from a tramadol induced seizure.
idk, we used to always take some benzos with tramadol when we were kids , i mean, young, like 17-18 cos that was the thing.. on saturdays, benzos, 5-10 50mg pills and drink and have fun, talk till morning.. miss those days
@@beyondrecall9446 benzos reduce seizure risk, tramadol raises it. Keep in mind seizures generally only happen after a certain dose threshold, but due to SNRI effects tramadol is a very risky drug as it also has risk for serotonin syndrome when combined with many common medications.
I can confirm myself that Jack Daniels and a strip of tramadol can defiantly result in seizures
Taking to much tramadol will give you a seizure just like benzo withdrawal and smoking off foil
I remember when I was prescribed tramadol for pain...I was hallucinating, shaky, restless & suffered cold sweats. Terrible stuff.
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Way back in the Oxy days, someone gave me a bunch of tramadol when I couldn’t get anything. Told me they weren’t really an opiate. I took a big handful. Several hours later, I was in the hospital for a week with pancreatitis. It was rough
Tramadol wasn’t nothing to mess with. I have a story myself. Took about 6 or 7 of the 50mg one morning. Went and did some shingles on a house and it was about 98 degrees outside that day. As I was carrying the shingles up the ladder I got to the top and passed out and fell off the roof. Come to find out I had a seizure after falling off the roof. Bit my tongue open and everything. Also messed my legs up and lower back from falling about 20 feet. Tramadol isn’t good for anyone. Maybe taking one but anything over one you’re asking for it lol.
Tramadol is thought of as baby aspirin to real junkies tho
@@zzzzzz5936 these people are really bragging about being junkies 😂
No it's pointing out getting hooked on tramadol is like being hooked on NyQuil... If you do it says more about you than anything because they're practically tylonal. And when you start acting like tramadol is some big bad thing you take the light off of real dangerous opiates ones that have way worse problems than f****** tramadol.
@@MrLanzac tramadol addiction is a growing problem in Europe among young people. You lying and saying it's like aspirin will not help the situation.
@@leob4403 it’s like aspirin to an addict that is used to taking large amounts of oxy, heroin, or fentanyl every day. That is what he means. He isn’t saying tramadol is not addictive or won’t get a person high. He’s saying that if you have a tolerance for stronger opiates then tramadol, which is a lower strength opiate will likely not have any affect
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I used to throw those away hahaha like wheres my hydrocodone!
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What? Tramadol is like Tylenol 😂😂
But remember 3rd world countries dont get access to it like us, so kinda like back in the 1600s shitty beer could get you sloshed because well we haven't been drinking it for a few thousand. And low tolerance for synthetic chemicals etc etc.
Tramadol lol step your game up Africa
That stuff is was started my opiate addiction in 2008 at 15yo. My doctor had said it was non addictive but me having no tolerance at all to opiates, it made me feel amazing! Hard to explain but if u know then u know. Was on that for about 4 years straight then once the prescriptions stopped I was hooked! Went to the streets for other opiates which wasn’t hard to find from where I was raised. Eventually lead to heroin. Been clean from all that for just over a year
i was hella addicted to trams i took them back when they were supposed to be a non addictive alternative to regular opiates like hydrocodone and the withdrawal is hell because of the SSRI effect withdrawal along with the classic opiate withdrawal. you basically are detoxing from antidepressants and opiates at once with tramadol addiction
In srilanka this drug available in pharmacies all over island....one tablet only 0.75 $ ...
Not even worth that... Shits garbage
@@backwoodsjunkie08 it's a potent drug, stop bullshitting
tramadols are very common in india among masons , laborer and construction workers as i have first hand seen them consuming it in the early mornings . its also relatively cheap and easily available
Nice place to order from too ;)
Tramadol ,cougtab D ,sapxmo These 3 tablet is formula for user which is really famous in nepal
I imagine an Indian laborers life is pretty sbitty..and drugs are necessary for sanity
Never heard of tramadol before. I live in Canada, wonder if it’s prescribed here? Wouldn’t mind trying it out lol
Wow. This is deep.
Tramadol?!?? Wow.... 🤦🏽♀️ it’s synthetic and at one point was considered a non-narcotic painkiller. Also, first to comment ❤️ love this channel.
And? The diarrhea medication you buy OTC was a scheduled narcotic for 6 years after it was discovered. Tramadol can be purchased OTC in Mexico and they don't have a problem. Drug laws are dumb.
@@Brad-ku9yu And ..... the point was Tramadol is weak sauce. It literally was not even on the schedule just a few short years ago. The amount needed to OD let alone get into the ecosystem is absolutely gonzo.
@@lazaredz6685 thank you, that’s the point I was making exactly. It wasn’t originally an issue, which is the case for most things, drug wise.
@@Brad-ku9yu lol dang Brad, you alright?
@@reginaluv82 All better, sorry.
Love the guy that does these vice videos. Tramadol is not only made a lab but is not the best opiate for me in terms of pain relief (for me that is)
With most opiates...I just tend not to care about the pain whole using them. Fentanyl is great in safe hospital environment,.but not a drug for recreation as the chances of going over is very real. Codeine I find is useful for me and is lighter on the stomach. Different bodies for different chemicals ...slot of people using opiates experience constipation. Thankfully they do not bind me up. I have only been constipated ok n opiates in a hospital setting. I put this down to the fact that in hospital im not moving slot.
This is a tough one. It needs a serious adult debate. The war on drugs has never worked.
Another thing humans tend to do is take chemicals they know nothing about...I find that absolute madness. Take care all
it's so hard to quit tramadol
I was in a car accident a year ago and was just prescribed this
I used to abuse tramadol when i was 11-17, never really thought of it as being dangerous or a ‘hard drug’ because of the other stuff i was around. Guess i should count myself lucky i never got too bad.
YES - Tramadol also has the same chemical structure as an anti-depressant called EFFEXOR so its a DOUBLE Dependency. After 5 years of use its much harder to get an erection due to the 'Effexor' effect.
Tramadol used to be pretty low tier . I was on it for a year back in 2016. That stuff is horrible , harder to get off of than hydrocodone .
I was prescribed tramadol several years ago and I was told it was a “non-narcotic” & that it’s pretty much just like taking an ibuprofen but without the issues that ibuprofen cause taking long term. 🤔
I went from a hydrocodone addict, to tramadol, now kratom....kratom, if used in high dose and the right strain gets me as high as the hydrocodone did. And when you quit there are almost no physical withdrawals. However, that makes it actually harder to quit, because you never hit rock bottom so you don't see a need. Plus it's everywhere and legal where I live. I've only been able to quit for 2 weeks in the last several years. At the dosage I take it, it ruins a lot...sex drive, energy and drive in general...makes me super complacent and apathetic about everything....
Tramadol is so garbage man. Kratom undoubtedly gives more of a "high" than tramadol does, for me it's kinda similar to hydrocodone but not quite as strong, in terms of weak opioids I'd rank them like this
1. Tramadol (weakest)
2. Codeine
3. Kratom
4. Hydrocodone (strongest of the weak opioids)
That's just from personal experience, it's worth noting that I used to be addicted to heroin (smoked, never Injected) and was hooked on other opioids as well, everything from percs to tianeptine..so I definitely know what I'm talking about here, krarom itself in leaf form is only a partial agonist but mitragynine and 7hydroxymitraygynine isolated are very potent opioids, look into it. That's why kratom extract shots are so potent, there's more mitraygynine and7hydroxymitraygynine in them and higher concentrations of those alkaloids results in a stronger effect due to higher mu opioid receptor affinity.
Oh and also dude, kratom absouletly does have physical withdrawals hahahaha....damn 8 months later how you feeling now bud? Kratom withdrawal isn't as bad as pills or dope obviously but it's still very real. Stop listening to people who claim kratom withdrawal is "only like caffeine withdrawal bro" that's totally bullshit, if kratom gets you as high as hydro do you seriously think there's gonna be no withdrawals? For me quitting kratom extracts was similar to coming off some vicodin+some extra low energy and depression. I took it daily daily 3 years in the form of both extracts and powder.
@@mongogojjo5944 I used the Choice brand green maeng da. Ive been on it every day for like four years with a couple weeks off total in that time. I was taking 6 to 8 pills, three times a day at my peak. I stepped that down to maybe 12-14 pills a day most recently. I'm just now off it completely for 3 weeks. I had about 3 days of severe anxiety and depression. Super emotional, like I could cry at the thought of anything. I felt waves of guilt hitting me, and fatigue and weakness. I feel totally normal now, except...I do feel a bit manic. Like I have too much energy. I legit feel like I'm on cocaine sometimes. Thoughts racing, jumpy...it's really odd. Otherwise pretty solid, and feeling more motivated to do things....I lost all motivation on the kratom.
I got me a monthly script of these 😅
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Tramadal is used to get threw withdrawal so if ur a opiod addict use Tramadal to drop ur tolerance and get threw withdrawal with out having to be on anything after best thing to fully detox of opiods
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I see this right after picking up my oxycontin for my wisdom teeth surgery next week lol
If you taking them longer than two days in a row be careful cause after that you are at risk of addiction.
Damn oxycontin? I got set up with t’3s and thought that was more than fine, your doctor is tryna get you addicted lmfaooooo
Who the heck would write that for tooth surgery had mine got ibuprofen these are the kind of doctors that give other people problems getting their meds
So I'm having all four out at once and can't be put to sleep. I gotta be sedated with nitrous and halcion preop meds.
That being said I might need them but I get 8 pills in the bottle. I've messed around with oxy recreationally in the past and I've never developed a dependency.
@@Jmcshay word yo
Ghana seems to be on the right path of rehabilitation.
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I was addicted mainly buprenorhine and other sedatives over a decade, and i was point where tramadol didn't work. I took 3000mg easy and other sedatives to combine that. Now i am in recovery. Nearly 6 months.
Africa just can't seem to catch a break....
The whole world is going down the tube, these drug epidemics are everywhere
Damn if I lived in that country I'd want to be stoned all the time too
What country is that?
African country my lady
ONE rehabilitation center??? oh man
More severe symptoms of tramadol abuse typically occur when higher doses include seizures and in the central nervous system-depression.