Adding Hydraulics to the Sail Winch and Other Boat Stuff
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ต.ค. 2024
- This is a do-it-yourself upgrade to a sail winch that will make raising the sails easy.
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As much as I enjoy the content of your work on Seeker, Doug, I also like seeing the photos at the end. I am overjoyed that there are countless people out there, like me, making stuff, using their hands in creative ways and maybe getting a little dirty in the process!
Glad you like them!
Doug's explanation of fluid dynamics is right on point.
Doug you are a freaking genius! I swear you are a mondern day Renaissance Man. Seeker is a work of art and I'm so glad I got to work on her. (well on Love Me Tender mostly) but you know what I mean :)
When spreading and smoothing silicone alcohol works amazingly well for that.
I build custom solar charge controllers that automatically reconfigure the solar array so that you meet the minimum voltage needed for charging. Each panel is wired directly into the controller junction box and it will decide what to do based on the voltage of each panel and it can run them all in series or parallel groups.
Excellent explanation of the hydraulic systems. They can be as complex as any rube-goldberg or super simple.
Thanks Doug. Don't ever give up friend. You motivate us so much with your energy every day.
I have been watching your channel for a while now and its awesome! I just wanted to say congratulations on on your hard work/success with this build
The sound of the Dolphin's breathing rhythm is cool, Ive never heard it so clearly.
Hi Doug.
I've been using Carabiners .. Clog quick gate .. for decades for mooring while crusing and going through locks..
I suggest you angle the solar panels at the Sun south-ish .. I realise you will need a bow and stern anchor .. angling them gives about 5 times the power output.
Bella 🐈 & Mark.
Looking great! Currently watching from 90 degrees south (South Pole station). I sent you the kingpin for the hitch you made to get Seeker to the port of Catoosa.
And it worked like a champ. I imagine it has been melted down by now and turned into something else. : )
@@SVSeeker circle of life 😁
You need a Teflon backup ring or it will probably blow out again. I've been watching from the beginning. I remember when all you had in the yard was a bunch of plate steel. It's awesome to see you live your dream. May you have a good wind and following seas. 🌊 🌊 🌊
Naa.. The o-ring was just pinched. There are dozens of these on the boat and that is the only one that has done that.
Learning as you go and this week you learned a lot.
I never lose , I either I win, or I learn.. -- Nelson Mandella.
Doug, You are a man of many talents.
Good morning from Siesta Key Florida
Good morning!
That hydraulic winch rig is a thing of beauty!
Nice
You must hade a NICE Weekend.
Best regards from Norway
It really is fantastic when I learn something in every single video you post, while I'm having such a great time ✌️❤️
Glad you enjoy it!
Hi, the flow control valve you have fitted on the winch is for open centre systems. You can get away with using it by fitting it after the solenoid rather than before it 👍👍
Yes, but the directional valve is closed center.
adding an in-line pressure snubber may help with the initial spike in speed (pressure pulse) when you first start it
I have not noticed a need for it. I think the line is going to be good for taking the shock.
Doug
I use thos Hydraulic DCV/solinod at work and just want warn you the springs can sometimes fail/break aswell the 'magnet' itself will rust
Put some sealant on the end caps and electronic cap
!! don't let the slide fall out !! It very hard get it back in as clearance is very tight
3:34 I have found that if you put the saw handle in a bench vise (saw standing like a big boy saw) and rig up a foot pedal to pull the trigger.....it works well enough. but whatever a man is comfortable with
I can just see trying to read that valve diagram at two am, in a 50mph squall, while trying to get the last reef in the mainsail, with a hangover from that last dram of Rum, which you had to drink, 'cause everybody knows that Rum don't keep.
Doug is to coolest dude on youtube.
Any chance you could do a short piece on your climbing gear just to see the items you use and accend decend techniques.
Severe storms all day tomorrow December 14 2022. Stay safe Doug look forward to the storm video.
Nothing serious yet, but great for filling the water tank.
should put a turtle and rabbit stickers on those pedals. only because it would be amusing. better yet, whats the fish version of the turtle and the rabbit.
NICE
Hey Doug, love your work! How bout an unloading valve on your hydraulic system? Maintains the pressure in a closed system, keeps your accumulator charged but off loads the pumps and stops heating the fluid. I'd travel across the country to work with you for a few days, but unfortunately I'm in the wrong country! Howdy from Down Under..
I have the parts and it's on the list.
dolphins seem like they’re having fun and like us 😅
On your oil spill. They make a bio degradable hyralic oil. Something you might think about.
$3415 for 55 gallons. Send in your donation.
Francis on the boat, cool!
Have thought about making an operational manual in case you're inconpasatated at sea ie the valve that had to be opened for hydraulic flow
I make videos. If you want a manual you better get busy.
@@SVSeeker Doug I can always count on you for a whizz of an answer/reply. Guess it's the Manager in you
Great video
Thanks!
Have you considered putting a small workbench on the deck to clamp work to?
That looked like a 50 Durometer o-ring. You need to replace it with a 90 Durometer o-ring. O-ring/Boss fittings NEED 90 durometer. (Quick test: You can almost bite through a 50 oring. You can tell a 90, it is FIRM)
My favorite part of your journey is imagining the shitbags that are watching your every move from the comfort of their mommy's basement when they see you make a little mistake, only to chase it down and fix it. makes my day every time.
A bit of masking tape and a sharpy is my way of making temporary labels.
Waiting for its own wind to gust
Love it keep it up ❣️
You should look into USIT-seals instead of O rings, they dont have a such a big chance to be installed incorrectly. Biogradable hydraulic oil is another thing, next time you change the oil. Looking good.
$3415 for 55 gallons. Send your donation today. : )
@@SVSeeker the question isnt IF there will be another major hydraulic oil leak, but WHEN. same goes for any vessel with a decent sized hydraulic system. its not a bad investment. better than spending it in cleanup/fines.
5 More Days til MORE Sun!
I'm going to strip off my cloths and dance naked on the deck. : )
Why is it okay to drop aluminum shavings overboard but not oil?
Most of vacuumed up and the rest will harmlessly returned to the carbon cycle. So wood shavings, metal grindings, plasma dross, piss and dog turds all go into the water.
How in the hell have you not had a drill bit fall out of a drill or clamp come undone at the wrong time and everything fall overboard?
I did loose my favorite measuring tape and an expensive socket wrench. I now go up the mast only with cheap Harbor Freight sockets. : )
How do you remember where everything is and what it does? Do you have as-built drawings / schematics? Or do you just have a great memory? Building this boat is an amazing accomplishment 👍🏻
If you build it, you likely know where everything is. And the other thing that help greatly is that none of the wires or pipes are hidden behind walls. Anyone that is failure with AC/DC and plumbing can see what any wire or pipe is used for.
Doug I got a question for you. Say something was to happen to you or other people on the boat and can't get to things like valves that u and a few ppl only know what ones to shut off or turn on. did you ever Ponder to get the tags with little metal wire Ties on them and label all the valves so maybe if something did happen to you people can read the tags and know what's going on or for future use if you happen to be gone and the boat is still operating. honest question thank you . 🤔
I guess if you can't figure out these systems then can study more. Or you better make sure nothing happens to me. God forbit that I'm bleeding out on deck and you need to repair the hydraulics to raise sail. LOL
@@SVSeeker I see both sides good luck and yeah please don't bleed out on the deck we kind of need you around here it's fun learning from you.
Who is writing the operations manual? LOL, That is about a 4 Month school. Nice Pirate Ship I love it. Get er dun. Merry Christmas to You and your Family and shipmates. Need Cannons on Pirate Ship.
I don't read manuals so I sure as hell ain't going to write one! But cannons? Hell yes. th-cam.com/video/E659PHNVD3A/w-d-xo.html
Are you worried at all that you can use hydraulics to both raise the anchor and the sails at the same time since one is an open center system and the other is closed center?
No, if you're going to sail off anchor then a little sail goes up and I need everything the system has to bring up the anchor.
Still working like you're in Tulsa. Can you just do 5 minutes about you enjoying the huge moment of having made it to the sea after all those years. Long shots of the boat to see what you see. The final results so as to speak.
That's the documentary guy's department. : )
A router on aluminum ?
I think your the first one I've seen do that ???
Sure. Any tool with a carbide blade works great on aluminum.
Welding downhill looks pretty, but, not as strong as uphill.
Ah, horse shit.
A good comparison of strength
How many welding clamps have you lost over the handrail using them like that to hold something
None yet, but I often put a lanyard on tools. There was a measuring tape I really liked. : )
When editing you can lower the loud tool nose would be nice old man.
Geez That would be like turning the volume down on a NASCAR race.
Hey Doug I got a question for you do you think you're going to end up having a problem with the front open like it is for the anchor obviously you think you're high enough that it won't cause a problem I don't know I'm thinking in rough water you could but then you can stay out of that too you definitely have enough electronics to let you know when that's going to happen and where that's going to happen I would really appreciate it if you could give me some insight to that
No, I will have a lot less water on the deck. Most boats have no bulwarks at all.
Any tips on how to get gorilla glue and purple heart mixed with jarrah wood dust off your fingers? Stuff sets like stone. Anyhow, you got sail hydraulics. Strong work.
Ha! Wait. You're skin will eventually fall off. : )
@@SVSeeker I sanded my finger tips. That did it.
Are going to put a rubber grommet in the thru hole for the magnetic valve power?
It's already there. Next!
@@SVSeeker I'm sorry I didn't see it.
Love your channel, some of the best honest content on the interweb
Cheers from California the LBC
Do you think your rudder is strong enough to resist any playful Orcas?
Ha! Yes absolutely. Their dentist will wonder what the hell they were thinking.
You need to build a workbench on your deck
That's this afternoons project. : )
Think the audio is loud enough on the power tool clips?....headphones are working well......turn it up to 11! Nice build btw!
Reality video.
Why? It's just going to get compressed and normalized to oblivion, so the dog breathing and the horn end up being the same volume.
Automation breeds complacency.
Those who cannot create, will only destroy.
Do you intend to power the sail wench remotely, or are the pedals a convenience?
IMO it may be over complicated, due to operator having hands occupied.
Why complicate such a basic directional spool valve, when occupying one/both hands is safer and eliminates dependence on a third system (highly prone to salt water)?
Passive systems (ICE) create heat via pressure relief valves, active systems (electric motor cutout) use PRV as a safety component. The flow control valve has PRV should the workload cease, as FCV are normally based on Needle and Seat design. ie nothing goes though tank return on the FCV, until an overload creates back pressure. Reducing PR on FCV lowers the overload threshold.
Please elaborate on having a tank return ball valve. Does it allow alternation between active and passive system flow?
I have not considered a remote control for the winch, but yeah, that might be handy. Remote control my ass to the top of the mast. : )
@@SVSeeker My sentiment may not be clear. By using foot controls on the Harken, the operator can be tempted to handle the rope, by either hand. If the spool valve were manual, and far enough away, the operator is not having to rub and pat at the same time. Should a spring break, you're not SOL, esp at the top of the mast!
IMO the foot pedal controller looks like a Pandora's Box/phil/cosmetics case, a decoration inviting trouble. Been wrong before.
Has the SCUBA compressor been sourced w/ power? Running it in off a passive system would increase it's efficiency, as energy wouldn't be dumped by the PRV. Those two electric pumps should be plenty to run the SCUBA compressor. If you're not going gearbox, use a cogged belt (common timing belt, Gates makes a high performance Blue belt).
Best of good fortune and safe sailing.
Ok, I like have a question you are about perseverance of the water after your hydraulic spill, and what about your drilling and shaving of aluminum into the water that is not good is it .And yes, I give you permission to use my Name JamieLynn from Ohio.
Sure. I don't think perseverance is the word you're looking for, maybe pollution? And no, metal shavings are not a serious issue. We vacuum up the majority, but metal boats, barges, oil rigs, etc, loose pounds of anodes and other metals daily. As well as anchors, chain, tools, etc. It all came from the earth and it's on it's way back the second it's in salt water. Sportsmen loose hooks, weights, fishing lures, line, nets, bird shot, etc. And anyone living diving a car 10 miles a day or uses electricity is at the same impact level. So you have to choose your offense carefully so you do not include yourself.
Doug, may I ask what blade you use on the table saw to cut aluminum?
You can use any carbide blade to cut aluminum. A little WD-40 helps but is not necessary. If you're using a large HP motor, I would not stand behind the saw but off to the side should it kickback. : )
@@SVSeeker Thank you Doug! My brother in law was telling me when he worked on making aluminum dump truck bodies that they used worm drive skill saws to cut some of the material. I never got to ask about blades.... have a few projects that will benefit from your info and advice.
Very fine teeth on thin sheet to avoid snagging and coarse teeth as it gets thicker.
Does anyone know what kind of tender that is?
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Hey Doug will you be sailing by Dunedin or Clearwater Fl? I would love to have the opportunity to seeker in person.
Sailing by someday. Dont know when.
@SV Seeker It would be great to meet you and see seeker in person. I've been following your journey for about 3yrs.
@@duanethumudo3967 Sounds good but we'll need a bay with more depth. : )
...the proverbial, "if it don't work, get a bigger hammer"! In this instance on Seeker, its the bigger winch to get the sails up! I still say there is something inherently wrong with either the weight of your sail rigging or the pulley system? It should not take so much effort to raise those sails? I'm positive you'll figure it out.
Don't label breakers for now. Number the wires and make a list in pencil. Keep the list and a short pencil in the box.
Or just follow the wire. They are not behind any walls. : )
@@SVSeeker Labels are faster and easier when you're trying to switch something off in a hurry.
@@user2C47 You want to turn the hydraulic winch valves off in a hurry? : )
@@SVSeeker Yes. It's leaking.
A lot of us are just worried about how a rotating crew will handle an emergency with the current lack of labels anywhere.
@@user2C47 Well you don't do it with the breaker, so you'd be barking up the wrong tree. And if your worry level is there, then you are not really ready to be crew. Build up your skill set and you will notice the things you worry about fall by the wayside.
Lol
orb fittings dont have to be very tight
True
Notch or add a washer
Also supply and return is correct labeling.
Sub-plates are P and T, so take it up with the manufacturers.
@@SVSeeker sailors are always critical. See you in key west.
Doug have that red spot on your temple looked at by a dermatologist. Could be just keratosis, but better have it checked.
Ok Mom
@@SVSeeker hahahahahahahahahahahahaha you’re welcome son!
All jokes aside after my wife hounded me for weeks I had one just like it frozen off as a precaution. As a cancer survivor I should have know better. Anyway, boat looks amazing bud.
That Baltic Birch plywood the step was made from is no longer imported....Made in Russia.....
Good Morning Doug. I take it you would like to talk about my note on Baltic Birch plywood.
Sure. Why should I care about Baltic Birch plywood?
@@SVSeeker I was thinking that if you used some on Seeker, which by the way is the very best plywood as to strength you would at some point try and restock it. It was meant as a warning as it is no longer being imported do to Sanctions placed on Russia.
There appears to be no equivalent substitute.
Next best seems to be Poplar that is made in Scandinavia.
PS: I'm glad you added shots of the porpoises near Seeker.
Man you get to work at your play. Yea
i saw this before and as a traditional sailor i find it extremely hard to see that you do not us a "tauschneider"... get a hot knife - please! (preferably a german one - you buy it once!)
Ha! Traditional sailor? I guess after the age of hide, hair, and hemp? : )
@@SVSeeker haha, its more like the hulls of dutch boats are around the 120 years old but all the rope is plastic + dyneema =)
love from europe!
Are the haters jealous yet?
The latest is I am a cult leader which makes you some sort of ignorant follower. Who would have know that building stuff and encouraging others to do the same would be the birth of a cult. : ) See for yourself: www.reddit.com/r/SV_Seeker/comments/zhhge8/comment/j04bz7a/?context=3
@@SVSeeker is that the alternate reality subreddit or the true to life one?
If ignorance is bliss and following led me to take on my own projects with similar vigor, then they can call me names all day while we both enjoy the fruits of our labor
@@SVSeeker Wow I just had look there - those people need a hobby. Oh wait their hobby is shitting on people doing cool stuff with their lives. Says it all.
That's the alternate one. The admin tossed up his hands gave the admin away. Can't blame him but we let the haters have their way there. And you are right. So much better to be lost in our projects. Best of luck to you.
@@SVSeeker Mmmmm. Kool-aid. :)
Even the new red rope you made looks pretty sketchy imo. I would use heavy duty straps personally but it’s your boat do what you want. She’s a beauty!
Check the breaking strength of 1/2" dyneema and get back to me on that. : )
Doug, I appreciate your work and it was great meeting you years ago and getting a boat tour. Your use of the Dewalt bandsaw is terrifying, having done the same I bought a stand for it and would not go back.(Best of both worlds) If you're looking for recommendations Google "SWAG PORTABAND TABLE". Cheers!
My pleasure. But Naaa. You should see me cut aluminum plate on my old 3Hp table saw. : )
@@kalrandom7387 Anything that can cut wood, and has the right carbide teeth, has no issues cutting aluminum, just slower feed.
My local metal supplier has been cutting all of their aluminum stock with a vintage 12inch Delta radial arm saw for more than the 20 years ive been going there. They get the blade sharpened once a year and thats it.
My wife and I built a 42ft aluminium yacht with wood table saw, wood jigsaw, wood router. Just HSS for the jigsaw blades, and tungsten-carbide for the others. All weld prep and fittings were made with these tools.