Great example of how to make an Adams irresistible body, those curved scissors remind me of curved sheet metal sheers to created curves. Most original example of my favorite producer the stimulator. Ive always had great luck with a floro yellow body and floro orange head section. This would make a great indicator fly.
Great dressing of a great fly. Your deer hair work is very neat. One thing: the Stimulator twists leaders like crazy. It’s a fast water fly, so use the heaviest tippet you can get away with. Also every few casts I bring the line in and let the leader hang long enough to unwind. Thanks again for another great video.
mikejessmax I’m not sure what the question mark means. I know I was being pedantic. Sorry. Also this is the best video I have ever seen about this magical fly. Mr. McPhail is a genius.
How are there 25 dislikes of this video? Heck, how are there any dislikes of Mr. McPhail's tying videos? My God change the hearts of those poor souls...
I started tying one year ago. These videos are truly a major help for helping me see alternate ways to tie some of the patterns. Also helps to see that one shouldn't be confined to the old classic ways of tying. I am trapped in Kansas, but all these patterns work great on panfish. Whhen I get out to the trout rivers they work great as well. Many thanks for sharing your ideas and expertise.
Stunning fly - and so well presented as always. I salute the fact that you went back and repeated when you spotted an error, so that you eliminated any chance of a gap when stacking. Well done again Davie!
Caribou hair body instead of deer is softer but floats even better. Another option! A counter rib of 4 lb. mono over the body hackle into the body will make it even more durable. Some tricks I learned from tying many bombers and bugs for Salmon!
I saw this and had to try tying it, thanks For another great pattern. I tried making a dubbing loop for the deer hair instead of spinning it, it worked out great. Thanks again.👍
Beauty fly. That looks like it would catch fish forever. Unfortunately, looks like it would take forever to tie... Good thing Alberta, Canada winters are long.
Thanks for the recipe for the fly. The most difficult thing about trimming deer hair, in my opinion, is learning when to stop! I really enjoy working with the different animal hair, my housekeeper (you remember my wife is ill) I don't think she cares for it much. She has to be here for so many hours anyway, so she might as well have something to clean. (sure hope she doesn't read this) It took me at least five different flies before I got one that I consider passable. All the best, Sean
Thanks for the reply, Davie. I've used the "packer" (actually a Biro/BIC pen with the ink cartridge removed) to good effect on a number of the muddler wet fly variations that keep cropping up on the UK forums. It creates a nice tight head when required. Thanks again, and keep up the great work. Aaron
Hey Davie , Greetings from California . I am a big fan , I love watching you tie to learn , I also find myself slip into a very relaxed state while watching. Thank you Any ways, here every summer we have a great salmon fly hatch that drive the rainbows wild. Most patterns I tie , and have seen are big and foamy. I wonder if you can tie your version. It would be greatly appreciated . Thank you kindly Colbee
Hi Colbee, I'm glad you like the videos and the flies that I tye. I have seen a few videos of the salmon fly that you get coming off on your waters and I have to honest I have seen many good and well tested patterns from your country which have been tied to represent this fly and I would find it hard to do better..Thank you again for your very kind words.... All the very best Davie
Hi, Davie. Very interesting bait, I call it - "grasshopper". Today I caught a good fish on the river)) the cock's feather on the fly's body was torn off by a fish. I will try to strengthen it with a thread. Thanks
@CommissarNorval I use the deer underhair all the time! Bag that up! Especially when tying bass bugs I end up with all different color dubbing etc. I use it for dries and nymphs. The other thing I will do is when tying with Rabbit strips you can comb out some underfur from that as well to thin it out (here in Massachusetts USA thinning out the rabbit straps can be KEY for salt and fresh) :)
@laing2002 Packers are more difficult if not impossible to use when there is already an underbody as in this video. Packers work best when the hook shank is bare, and so does spinning deer hair. But you won't often have a bare hook shank to work with as in this video. good question.
Hi davie quick question could I use deer belly hair in place of the elk hair and have the same result I'm fishing in trout fisheries thanks in advance all the best fae RAB.
Nice tye! Really love the way you use deer hair for the body. Next time you are using deer hair in a pattern could you show how you get the deer hair in the stacke? I'm always having a problem getting it from the hide to the stacker, hais upside down, not all go into the stacker and so on.
Hi Giuliano Masetti, I have mostly tyed these on size 8s and 6s though it's been a long while since I have tyed a few..You can tye them down to a size 12 ok but it starts to get a bit much in the small sizes..I'm glad you enjoyed the video.. All the very best Davie..
Hey Hunterman, do you have a nor-vise? I do, but I also still have my other vise. I find it fun when tying articulated flies to have two vises holding hooks until I either cut the front one off. Or in some cases, I use one hook point down, and the other keel style on some of my flies. I love my norvise and use it more often than my older vise. I don't like the small vise adapter much now that you have to guess where center is. Thanks for your posting. Good luck with your nor-vise. Later, Sean
Just had a chance to watch your video. Excellent as always. I have a small question... I wondered why you don't use a "packer" to tighten up the deer hair between applications? I struggled with trimmed deer hair for the longest time until I started to pack and compress the spun deer hair. I ask because in your description you make comments about minimizing "space" between the applications. Aaron
Davie, I've fished with a variety of bombers for Atlantic salmon. This deer/ elk hair stimulator dry looks to be just the ticket for something both similar yet different that would entice the finicky Atlantics to the surface. I'm certainly going to tie some of these using a few colours of deer hair. Have you ever used or heard from anyone on the success of this fly, to tempt steelhead or Atlantic salmon?
hi davie, i was wondering if you would have a pattern for a small black snail representation. the trout on the lough do be full of them and it would be a handy pattern to have in the box they when there on them as they take nothing else. would appreciate it phil.
I have found the recipes for some of your flies in the comments and have saved them so I can take them to the tying bench. I don't see the recipe for this one. Is there one?
I was referring to the packer that looks like a V and has a notch to fit around the hook shank. thats the packer i have and it definitely won't work for this. I can see where an empty pen or something like that would work
Hi Jason, If there's enough then any natural hair works. I have used deer hair as dubbing and leaving the underfur to help hold it on some dry flies so I would recommend trying it...Thank you for the kinds words. All the very best Davie....
Just to put my 2 cents in (and keep in mind I am nowhere near the skill level of Davie), but I have found that deer underfur dubs quite well; almost to the consistency of superfine, actually. I can't say it holds or sheds water as different dubbings do (I just don't know), but on nymphs 100% it will work, and dries that have a buoyant compositions should be no problem either. My first fly tying lesson was from davie when I watched one of his videos in 2014. I tie almost every day, and my knowledge and technique have improved exponentially. All the best to you and Davie.
Hey, Great video as always. I love the stimulator, it's one of my favourite flies. Just one quick question though. When tying the wing in, my thread always slides off the deer hair, how can I avoid it.
One way is to do 3 wraps of the wing hair, lift the butt ends and do a couple or 3 thread wraps under those butt ends, Then continue tying down the butt ends. The wraps underneath create a little bump that helps hold the wing hair and thread from sliding.
great fly. I have never seen this fly tied with spun deer hair. I have only used this fly in sizes 12 - 18, so spun deer hair would be too bulky for my tastes. I usually use dubbing or floss, and have even caught some fish with one tied like a Royal Wulff. for the thorax, i usually use a yellow or other bright color of dubbing. Why, don't know, but it works in Missouri.
My favorite stimulator dressing ever; an elegant cork. Thanks Davie
Great example of how to make an Adams irresistible body, those curved scissors remind me of curved sheet metal sheers to created curves. Most original example of my favorite producer the stimulator. Ive always had great luck with a floro yellow body and floro orange head section. This would make a great indicator fly.
Great dressing of a great fly. Your deer hair work is very neat.
One thing: the Stimulator twists leaders like crazy. It’s a fast water fly, so use the heaviest tippet you can get away with. Also every few casts I bring the line in and let the leader hang long enough to unwind.
Thanks again for another great video.
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mikejessmax I’m not sure what the question mark means.
I know I was being pedantic.
Sorry.
Also this is the best video I have ever seen about this magical fly. Mr. McPhail is a genius.
How are there 25 dislikes of this video? Heck, how are there any dislikes of Mr. McPhail's tying videos? My God change the hearts of those poor souls...
I started tying one year ago. These videos are truly a major help for helping me see alternate ways to tie some of the patterns. Also helps to see that one shouldn't be confined to the old classic ways of tying. I am trapped in Kansas, but all these patterns work great on panfish. Whhen I get out to the trout rivers they work great as well. Many thanks for sharing your ideas and expertise.
I love to spin deer hair,good looking fly.Nowdays it’s all foam flys.
Stunning fly - and so well presented as always. I salute the fact that you went back and repeated when you spotted an error, so that you eliminated any chance of a gap when stacking. Well done again Davie!
Again another masterpiece Davy!
Thanks for the un hurried way you explain the finer points ! christy
A true master of the craft. Nicely done.
Caribou hair body instead of deer is softer but floats even better. Another option! A counter rib of 4 lb. mono
over the body hackle into the body will make it even more durable. Some tricks I learned from tying many bombers and bugs
for Salmon!
Excellent. I love your fly tying clips. Clean, precise, very wel explained. you are the best on youtube by miles.
I saw this and had to try tying it, thanks For another great pattern.
I tried making a dubbing loop for the deer hair instead of spinning it, it worked out great.
Thanks again.👍
Beauty fly. That looks like it would catch fish forever. Unfortunately, looks like it would take forever to tie... Good thing Alberta, Canada winters are long.
Cool version. I like it best!
Hi Davie. I've tied the Stimulator body with chenille or dubbing I've never seen it with spun deer hair. Great! It should float like a cork!
very nice tye Davie, cheers..
All the best,
James
Just Wow! Thanks Davie.
This is a great method for the stimulator. I will have to give it a try sometime!
Thanks for the recipe for the fly. The most difficult thing about trimming deer hair, in my opinion, is learning when to stop! I really enjoy working with the different animal hair, my housekeeper (you remember my wife is ill) I don't think she cares for it much. She has to be here for so many hours anyway, so she might as well have something to clean. (sure hope she doesn't read this) It took me at least five different flies before I got one that I consider passable. All the best, Sean
on these type of flys , i find that squirrel tail hair works great for a wing
Thanks for the reply, Davie. I've used the "packer" (actually a Biro/BIC pen with the ink cartridge removed) to good effect on a number of the muddler wet fly variations that keep cropping up on the UK forums. It creates a nice tight head when required. Thanks again, and keep up the great work.
Aaron
I'll be tying one tonight. Thanks Davie ATB!!!
nice fly tying davie.
Great video and great fly but leaves an unheavenly mess on the table, as always with deer hair flies. Thank you for a great vid!
this is the fly I'm looking for. very buoyant. only a small number. thank you.
Beautiful fly
Well done indeed.
Amazing!
Trying this right now...started 30 mins ago. Triming deer hair ....now...
Annnnd...done. lol
Hey Davie ,
Greetings from California . I am a big fan , I love watching you tie to learn , I also find myself slip into a very relaxed state while watching. Thank you
Any ways, here every summer we have a great salmon fly hatch that drive the rainbows wild. Most patterns I tie , and have seen are big and foamy. I wonder if you can tie your version. It would be greatly appreciated .
Thank you kindly
Colbee
Hi Colbee,
I'm glad you like the videos and the flies that I tye. I have seen a few videos of the salmon fly that you get coming off on your waters and I have to honest I have seen many good and well tested patterns from your country which have been tied to represent this fly and I would find it hard to do better..Thank you again for your very kind words....
All the very best Davie
excellent as usual Davie. that has to do the damage on stillwaters looks excellent
many thanks
Kenny
Hi, Davie. Very interesting bait, I call it - "grasshopper". Today I caught a good fish on the river)) the cock's feather on the fly's body was torn off by a fish. I will try to strengthen it with a thread. Thanks
Quel talent ...
excellent fly
SUPERBE +++++ ;-) belle maitrise du poil de cervidé , bravo !! ( france )
@CommissarNorval I use the deer underhair all the time! Bag that up! Especially when tying bass bugs I end up with all different color dubbing etc. I use it for dries and nymphs.
The other thing I will do is when tying with Rabbit strips you can comb out some underfur from that as well to thin it out (here in Massachusetts USA thinning out the rabbit straps can be KEY for salt and fresh) :)
one should always have a few stimulators in the box!
@laing2002 Packers are more difficult if not impossible to use when there is already an underbody as in this video. Packers work best when the hook shank is bare, and so does spinning deer hair. But you won't often have a bare hook shank to work with as in this video. good question.
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Hi davie quick question could I use deer belly hair in place of the elk hair and have the same result I'm fishing in trout fisheries thanks in advance all the best fae RAB.
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muy buena mosca.
Nice tye! Really love the way you use deer hair for the body. Next time you are using deer hair in a pattern could you show how you get the deer hair in the stacke? I'm always having a problem getting it from the hide to the stacker, hais upside down, not all go into the stacker and so on.
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good.
What size hook do you use in your demo. How small can you go to for river fishing. Great fly 🤪👍
Hi Giuliano Masetti,
I have mostly tyed these on size 8s and 6s though it's been a long while since I have tyed a few..You can tye them down to a size 12 ok but it starts to get a bit much in the small sizes..I'm glad you enjoyed the video..
All the very best Davie..
It would be nice to know the materials needed right in the beginning of the video to make sure I have them all.
Hey Hunterman, do you have a nor-vise? I do, but I also still have my other vise. I find it fun when tying articulated flies to have two vises holding hooks until I either cut the front one off. Or in some cases, I use one hook point down, and the other keel style on some of my flies. I love my norvise and use it more often than my older vise. I don't like the small vise adapter much now that you have to guess where center is. Thanks for your posting. Good luck with your nor-vise. Later, Sean
Just had a chance to watch your video. Excellent as always. I have a small question... I wondered why you don't use a "packer" to tighten up the deer hair between applications? I struggled with trimmed deer hair for the longest time until I started to pack and compress the spun deer hair. I ask because in your description you make comments about minimizing "space" between the applications.
Aaron
Davie,
I've fished with a variety of bombers for Atlantic salmon. This deer/ elk hair stimulator dry looks to be just the ticket for something both similar yet different that would entice the finicky Atlantics to the surface. I'm certainly going to tie some of these using a few colours of deer hair. Have you ever used or heard from anyone on the success of this fly, to tempt steelhead or Atlantic salmon?
hi davie,
i was wondering if you would have a pattern for a small black snail representation. the trout on the lough do be full of them and it would be a handy pattern to have in the box they when there on them as they take nothing else.
would appreciate it phil.
Hi Davie nice tying, what brand of saddle do you use?
👍
I have found the recipes for some of your flies in the comments and have saved them so I can take them to the tying bench. I don't see the recipe for this one. Is there one?
Does the deer hair body help float better
Thanks
Davie what hook are you using on this video?
I was referring to the packer that looks like a V and has a notch to fit around the hook shank. thats the packer i have and it definitely won't work for this. I can see where an empty pen or something like that would work
Davie I have a question. Is the deer hair fluff good to use for dubbing I have many colours of deer hair and I thought it was a waste to throw it out.
Hi Jason,
If there's enough then any natural hair works. I have used deer hair as dubbing and leaving the underfur to help hold it on some dry flies so I would recommend trying it...Thank you for the kinds words.
All the very best Davie....
Thank you for getting back Davie. Your flies are awesome i have learned a lot watching you tie best wish thos year fishing as well.
Just to put my 2 cents in (and keep in mind I am nowhere near the skill level of Davie), but I have found that deer underfur dubs quite well; almost to the consistency of superfine, actually. I can't say it holds or sheds water as different dubbings do (I just don't know), but on nymphs 100% it will work, and dries that have a buoyant compositions should be no problem either. My first fly tying lesson was from davie when I watched one of his videos in 2014. I tie almost every day, and my knowledge and technique have improved exponentially. All the best to you and Davie.
Is this used for salmon as well as trout?
Hi Parndell Bursey,
It is used for both trout and salmon as it's a great fly...
ATB Davie
Hey,
Great video as always. I love the stimulator, it's one of my favourite flies. Just one quick question though. When tying the wing in, my thread always slides off the deer hair, how can I avoid it.
One way is to do 3 wraps of the wing hair, lift the butt ends and do a couple or 3 thread wraps under those butt ends, Then continue tying down the butt ends. The wraps underneath create a little bump that helps hold the wing hair and thread from sliding.
great fly. I have never seen this fly tied with spun deer hair. I have only used this fly in sizes 12 - 18, so spun deer hair would be too bulky for my tastes. I usually use dubbing or floss, and have even caught some fish with one tied like a Royal Wulff. for the thorax, i usually use a yellow or other bright color of dubbing. Why, don't know, but it works in Missouri.
The the typical way I do them, work great here in Alberta too.