With the amount of classes that have cdr on their offensive cds, im kinda glad they brought the trinket down to a 90 second cd. 2 minutes made sense when most classes had 1-2 minute offensive cds, but most of those are now 45-90 second cds with built in cdr everywhere.
I understand a lot of the feedback about lowering skill cap, but I think it's time the game needs to get over itself a little bit. Skill cap is fun but new players shouldn't feel like they need to pre fade incoming cc in order to have success in arena. I enjoy the outplay potential, but I also want to start welcoming new blood into arenas. With modern games being so easy to access, if we want new faces in the game, we need to bring the skill cap down a bit (which I think they are doing well with removing the bloat of some classes and the healer trinket change)
Ya for real, can outplay enough with trading cooldowns and positioning, trying to pre fade or pre sav or pre death a hunter trap or you die when your just gonna get stunned into a trap anyways feels really bad
As an observation we are witnessing the change of WoW’s PvP scene from that of a skill based gameplay to button smashing. They neerfed CC and buffed ways to get out of CC. So what must happen to end games in a reasonable time? Buff burst dmg and/or dampening games aka PvEPvP
Sheeesh big changes for warr. Honestly want changes to feral and rogue, don't feel they get much attention pvpwise but we will see. All in all exciting changes though imo.
I would love to see Enhancement Shaman more represented in the AWC. Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't recall seeing one make an appearance in AWC at all in Dragonflight.
Ah, thanks for correcting me friend. Was that the only time? I watch AWC from time to time, not religiously so I might have missed a few appearances.@@OverlordMoon
@@Vourne While F Tier played that comp as a one trick, I think they were the only one who played Enhancement Shaman. I don't recall seeing any teams try Turbo at all since most Warrior teams were playing with a caster? I agree with you though that I'd love to see more Enh Shaman as well. I had a ton of fun playing mine recently.
they trying to figure out how to make healers to queue pvp. well it's very simple, as healer you have to heal, dps and cc. this is too much work, it's too complicated, where as dps, you just have to dps, or dps and cc. this is on top of the fact that climbing rating as healer, is much harder. instead of trying these stupid workarounds. make healers do only 2 jobs. heal/dps, or heal/cc. and make it easier to climb rating, and whoa, all of a sudden people will start playing healers. if blizzard thinks that reducing trinkets' cd and buffing healing by 10% or will make healers want to come back. they are wrong. cause, neither reduces the hardship of playing a healer, neither makes it easier to climb rating.
I find climbing as a healer pretty easy just use half of your braincell and stop blaming your dpsers, push in with your warriors or stay back and kite with your casters. Healers blame their dpsers when going 0 6 in ahuffle but how did the other guy go 6 0 with the same ones
it's not about using brain cells. i took 6 toons to 1800, this season. sure not a gladiator, but still a decent feat of strength in heavily deflated season. Problem with healers is that you have to play a ton more games, when compared to dps. quiet often, you can not carry the game, plus your cr put against only 1 player. you can't go 3/6 and gain rating. you still lose 30 for going 2/6. and very often you get fresh healer stacked against you, probably an alt, where for going 4/6 you get like 5 rating. with DPS it's not like that. ye you still lose 30 rating for 2/6, but for 3/6 70% of the time you get rating, like 5-9. for going 4/6 you get 30 rating. and you can carry lobbies. plus as healer, you have to dps, heal and cc. do 3 jobs at the time. while as dps, either dps straight up, or dps cc. which is less work. way less. @@Undertaker257
I swear they are HARD pushing this game to balance around Solo Shuffles only. Maybe make Solo Shuffle it’s own thing with different rewards and PvP effects
As per usual, shaman seems to have been forgotten about, or rather just had some percentage adjustments thrown in at the last minute. Really missing the mark, every other healer has had meaningful adjustments to its kit over the course of the expansion, left feeling like the black sheep of the healing family.
As per usual, [insert class I play] seems to have been forgetten about, or rather just had some percentage adjustments thrown in at the last minute. Really missing the mark, every other [insert class role that I play] has had meaningful adjustments to its kit over the course [whatever expansion], left feeling like the black sheep of the [role I play] family.
@@QuantumV just because this could apply to several classes or individuals does not make the argument any less valid. Lack of adjustments to a class I enjoy playing disincentivises me from playing the game. I’m merely voicing my frustration.
@@jackaljr666666 I’m not asking for rshams to be OP, would just be interesting if there was a shake up on the healing rotation and get to use some long forgotten buttons to n a new interesting way. How bout a patch where chain heal is useful, perhaps a chance to proc a fast cast chain heal. Or be rewarded for getting some damage out, x amount of lava bursts increased the power of your next riptide for example. Personally pressing totem, totem, riptide, riptide feels a bit stale after all this time and a bit lack lustre.
Blizzard has to decide if pvp will be about ss or 2s and 3s. As it comes to ss, changes are kind of good, cause every average healer (including my self 😂) cant avoid most of cc due to lack of positioning. As it comes ti 2s and 3s changes are kind of bad cause games will last longer, making kill windows more difucult to be found. For me ss needs to become non rated again, glad mount and more rewards should be applied in both 2s and 3s. Glad mount should probably be awarded at 2,2k and more transmog options should be given as you progress towards the high end of the ladder. Pvp offers NOTHING to most players (non streamers avarage 1.8-2.2 players) who try to grind their mains so most ppl compromise by playing their armies of alts, trying to reach 1.8 for the transmig sets. This will not last another ssn i believe and the majority of players will stop pvp, if they haven't already.
The warrior pvp buffs are ridiculous. They already stick to you like glue but self heal more than demon hunters while not being NEARLY as squishy as those classes like rogues, monks, and DHs that can stick to you so well. DKs, for example, are anti-casters and have tools to close distance, but they have to be smart about it to keep you near. Meanwhile, warriors roll their heads across the keyboard, do max damage, while being stuck to you, taking so little damage, and self-healing... and Blizz gives them more...
My only concern is that fury still has to take a pvp talent for their MS when they are adding all these pvp talents, they put dh MS in the tree? Why not fury.
@Undertaker257 Oh, no, I'm not a mage. I'm a balance druid and used to be able to kite with form changes and roots, etc, while needing to be clever about it (like I still do with dks, dhs, rogues and monks). But warriors are just excessive now with double whirlwind immunity and 100 roots and stuns that even my forms can't get out of (while full healing all my dot damage), I just give up, stand there, and take it like a champ. 🤣🥲
blizz must fire quickly warrior devs. every expansion every patch they are making warrior most imbalanced non-brain zugzug with most damage+cc+defensive+utility+mobility class with zero effort
@@MrZeuz666I don't understand their priority list with changing classes. This expansion makes the most sense to to do a lot of changes and reworks to shamans (elements surging in the continent), yet they change up rogues/paladins/spriest etc
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With the amount of classes that have cdr on their offensive cds, im kinda glad they brought the trinket down to a 90 second cd. 2 minutes made sense when most classes had 1-2 minute offensive cds, but most of those are now 45-90 second cds with built in cdr everywhere.
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Warrior can give anyone 20% damage reduction with two charges and a small cd, meanwhile dks strongest defensive is 30% damage reduction with a 3min cd
Same goes with ferals. Although a bit higher dmg reduction, still a massive cd with no way of reducing the cd... :')
@supatease you the man!!!
I understand a lot of the feedback about lowering skill cap, but I think it's time the game needs to get over itself a little bit. Skill cap is fun but new players shouldn't feel like they need to pre fade incoming cc in order to have success in arena. I enjoy the outplay potential, but I also want to start welcoming new blood into arenas. With modern games being so easy to access, if we want new faces in the game, we need to bring the skill cap down a bit (which I think they are doing well with removing the bloat of some classes and the healer trinket change)
Ya for real, can outplay enough with trading cooldowns and positioning, trying to pre fade or pre sav or pre death a hunter trap or you die when your just gonna get stunned into a trap anyways feels really bad
As an observation we are witnessing the change of WoW’s PvP scene from that of a skill based gameplay to button smashing.
They neerfed CC and buffed ways to get out of CC. So what must happen to end games in a reasonable time? Buff burst dmg and/or dampening games aka PvEPvP
They fixed hunters, guys. Now we will live 2 more seconds when being trained by a melee after they broke/avoided all our cc and are nowhere near dead.
Sheeesh big changes for warr.
Honestly want changes to feral and rogue, don't feel they get much attention pvpwise but we will see.
All in all exciting changes though imo.
There's ALOT of rogue changes imo...this patch they focused on rogues and DHs...check general class changes not only pvp ones.
awesome info like always ty
war on top
Lets go TSG now has a freedom!!! DK/War/x to the moon!
Hell yeah! About time to return yo the most manly specs in the game and not these spacebar spamer bit hes
I would love to see Enhancement Shaman more represented in the AWC. Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't recall seeing one make an appearance in AWC at all in Dragonflight.
F tier played Windwalker/Enhancement Shaman/Holy Paladin last season
Ah, thanks for correcting me friend. Was that the only time? I watch AWC from time to time, not religiously so I might have missed a few appearances.@@OverlordMoon
@@Vourne While F Tier played that comp as a one trick, I think they were the only one who played Enhancement Shaman. I don't recall seeing any teams try Turbo at all since most Warrior teams were playing with a caster? I agree with you though that I'd love to see more Enh Shaman as well. I had a ton of fun playing mine recently.
they trying to figure out how to make healers to queue pvp. well it's very simple, as healer you have to heal, dps and cc. this is too much work, it's too complicated, where as dps, you just have to dps, or dps and cc. this is on top of the fact that climbing rating as healer, is much harder. instead of trying these stupid workarounds. make healers do only 2 jobs. heal/dps, or heal/cc. and make it easier to climb rating, and whoa, all of a sudden people will start playing healers. if blizzard thinks that reducing trinkets' cd and buffing healing by 10% or will make healers want to come back. they are wrong. cause, neither reduces the hardship of playing a healer, neither makes it easier to climb rating.
I find climbing as a healer pretty easy just use half of your braincell and stop blaming your dpsers, push in with your warriors or stay back and kite with your casters. Healers blame their dpsers when going 0 6 in ahuffle but how did the other guy go 6 0 with the same ones
it's not about using brain cells. i took 6 toons to 1800, this season. sure not a gladiator, but still a decent feat of strength in heavily deflated season. Problem with healers is that you have to play a ton more games, when compared to dps. quiet often, you can not carry the game, plus your cr put against only 1 player. you can't go 3/6 and gain rating. you still lose 30 for going 2/6. and very often you get fresh healer stacked against you, probably an alt, where for going 4/6 you get like 5 rating. with DPS it's not like that. ye you still lose 30 rating for 2/6, but for 3/6 70% of the time you get rating, like 5-9. for going 4/6 you get 30 rating. and you can carry lobbies. plus as healer, you have to dps, heal and cc. do 3 jobs at the time. while as dps, either dps straight up, or dps cc. which is less work. way less.
@@Undertaker257
So resto shaman healing stream 20% buff, surge 10% buff ,wave 6% nerf ,primordial 20% nerf+ the healing wave nerf ascedanance 20%nerf already mediocre cd🤔
yes but also all healer base stats are getting a buff so the nerfs wont do much
They fucking hate Rsham
You should look at changes as a whole instead of just class changes
Healer stats are getting buffed.
Smh
Its still shit just like the game
how many times do patch notes make affliction look 'dangerous' or 's-tier' just for them to be floppy, ineffective melee training dummies again
and imagine after warrior buff, can't be rooted, can't be slowed, the class will have every toolkit in the game x')
@@azznokyes as it was always supposed to be! Begone fiends
Hi Supa, Are you aware that RBGs are coming in SOLOQ in 10.2?
I swear they are HARD pushing this game to balance around Solo Shuffles only. Maybe make Solo Shuffle it’s own thing with different rewards and PvP effects
Played some ss yesterday, aff is stupid broken broken
The healer buff is insane nice
Melee mega in season 3 confirmed 😂
can we talk more about ele doing 600k dmg in 1 global & how we can do it too?
How do u feel about the s3 glad-mount? %-(
As per usual, shaman seems to have been forgotten about, or rather just had some percentage adjustments thrown in at the last minute. Really missing the mark, every other healer has had meaningful adjustments to its kit over the course of the expansion, left feeling like the black sheep of the healing family.
As per usual, [insert class I play] seems to have been forgetten about, or rather just had some percentage adjustments thrown in at the last minute. Really missing the mark, every other [insert class role that I play] has had meaningful adjustments to its kit over the course [whatever expansion], left feeling like the black sheep of the [role I play] family.
@@QuantumV just because this could apply to several classes or individuals does not make the argument any less valid. Lack of adjustments to a class I enjoy playing disincentivises me from playing the game. I’m merely voicing my frustration.
Rshams have some of the most insane tools, def dont need "meaningful adjustments". They just need their healing buttons to heal
@@jackaljr666666 I’m not asking for rshams to be OP, would just be interesting if there was a shake up on the healing rotation and get to use some long forgotten buttons to n a new interesting way. How bout a patch where chain heal is useful, perhaps a chance to proc a fast cast chain heal. Or be rewarded for getting some damage out, x amount of lava bursts increased the power of your next riptide for example. Personally pressing totem, totem, riptide, riptide feels a bit stale after all this time and a bit lack lustre.
So if I CoT a healer it will dot him? Don’t know if that’s a good or bad thing since it can break CC.
Will only break cc if you use it on a already cced target
Blizzard has to decide if pvp will be about ss or 2s and 3s. As it comes to ss, changes are kind of good, cause every average healer (including my self 😂) cant avoid most of cc due to lack of positioning. As it comes ti 2s and 3s changes are kind of bad cause games will last longer, making kill windows more difucult to be found. For me ss needs to become non rated again, glad mount and more rewards should be applied in both 2s and 3s. Glad mount should probably be awarded at 2,2k and more transmog options should be given as you progress towards the high end of the ladder. Pvp offers NOTHING to most players (non streamers avarage 1.8-2.2 players) who try to grind their mains so most ppl compromise by playing their armies of alts, trying to reach 1.8 for the transmig sets. This will not last another ssn i believe and the majority of players will stop pvp, if they haven't already.
@@XeLLKiller no problem diaria
When can we expect 10.2 to drop?
End of fall is my guess
we don't know yet
Start/Mid of november would be my personal guess
Incoming trashfire
WTF Warriors!!!! time to dust of my boy xD
These buffs make me wanna quit ngl lol
Only BM feel so Bad haha
They nerfed disc priest even more? Lmfaooo
The warrior pvp buffs are ridiculous. They already stick to you like glue but self heal more than demon hunters while not being NEARLY as squishy as those classes like rogues, monks, and DHs that can stick to you so well. DKs, for example, are anti-casters and have tools to close distance, but they have to be smart about it to keep you near. Meanwhile, warriors roll their heads across the keyboard, do max damage, while being stuck to you, taking so little damage, and self-healing... and Blizz gives them more...
If warrior is sticking to you like glue then you are the problem xD and also whole season 2 was pretty miserable for warrior until last few weeks
@Undertaker257 Alrightie there, meister, whether I'm a good player or not, doesn't mean I'm wrong. 🤣👍
@@djbedu i guess 7 blinks arent enough, im joking but the only class i can rly stick to is shadow priest
aff lock getting buffed again .... wtf
lock buffs are disgusting
why straight to 1minute 30 sec...why not 1min 45 sec and see how that goes??? why the fuck does everything have to be so drastic???
Cus 15s would be hardly noticeable, since most cds are at about 1.5m after cdr or just baseline, (think tyrant, avatar, and so on)
My only concern is that fury still has to take a pvp talent for their MS when they are adding all these pvp talents, they put dh MS in the tree? Why not fury.
Slaughterhouse should just be passive tbh… imagine if you had to talent for mortal strike hd lol
Great another season full of warriors
Yes sir! Was about time
@Undertaker257 Oh, no, I'm not a mage. I'm a balance druid and used to be able to kite with form changes and roots, etc, while needing to be clever about it (like I still do with dks, dhs, rogues and monks). But warriors are just excessive now with double whirlwind immunity and 100 roots and stuns that even my forms can't get out of (while full healing all my dot damage), I just give up, stand there, and take it like a champ. 🤣🥲
blizz must fire quickly warrior devs. every expansion every patch they are making warrior most imbalanced non-brain zugzug with most damage+cc+defensive+utility+mobility class with zero effort
Strange take. I would just say delete rogues myself if we doing that.
wife's boyfriend plays war, can confirm
After I got to the end of the video I have to agree this time around at least. That’s way too OP.
@@MrZeuz666I don't understand their priority list with changing classes. This expansion makes the most sense to to do a lot of changes and reworks to shamans (elements surging in the continent), yet they change up rogues/paladins/spriest etc
@@FatherCosmic Can confirm what?