that's a good card for watercooling since it has the same VRM as the MSI gaming X cars....... just got a really shitty cooler that you dont care about if your going to put a watercooler on it
nice hair better than before. and wow you did lots of testing on that card. I think you are a lot better than most other techtubers because knowledge and enthusiasm.
I admire your talent and love your Vedio information, I believe Vega will be good when everything is worked out it's a powerful Vedio card and technology. I can't wait when you play with it your way.
can someone explain why i always get no sounds from buildzoids vids? other video/channels are fine its just his. i have to disable my Realtek audio and enable my monitors audio device to hear anything. playback devices shows that there should be sound, but nothing comes out. nothing is muted.
Vega really is bandwidth starved.... heard a lot of people talk about it on OCN. Question for you buildzoid. Considering buying a reference 1080ti, how is the VRM compared to some of the other 1080Ti's? Aside from the binning I could push a reference 1080ti on water to about the same place I could push an AiB one, right?
ZornGodOfAll Vega just like other AMD cards aren't bandwidth starved, unless what you mean is their efficiency lagging behind Nvidia which is all due to Memory Compression Nvidia uses hence why they always have smaller buswidth and bandwidth total. AMD cards are capable of using all of their bandwidth, they just don't if they don't need to, I remember seeing these articles too and thought of just underclocking my VRAM to said amount of maximum of bandwidth my 290X could pull and to my surprise performance was fine until games that pushed the GPU bandwith more actually seen gains of 20FPS+, the most apparent was DOOM 2016. The headroom is actually very helpful with softwares that uses h264 as well. Although if Im wrong it would be need to have an explaination to what I got to witness.
Quick question. Is there a 1080Ti with reference size/dimensions that has the best cooling? Much better than founder edition at least? What card do you recommend? Thanks.
Honestly I cant say. Seems like all the heatsinks are crap and fans aren't much better. I can't keep my 1060 FTW under 70C regardless of what I do when its stressed, that's why I want to put a 1080Ti under an AIO, it'll keep temps down and the clocks up.
Could the security coprocessor be SHA256 hashing the bios or a portion of it on boot and comparing it to a stored value? Surely it would have to be something less secure than that or AMD could never release an update if it has to. I guess it could just be signed, with them including a hash key buried in the bios that would sign it to 12 0s or something. Lord knows they have the GPU power to mine a key out like that.
miners still buy cards, lowkey, amd loves them because they are guaranteed sales, rumors have them increasing prices of vega since it will sell out anyways, the only way to get a good deal is with the packs which are super smart since amd knows that miners wont use the perks and will just eat the premium meaning more$$$ for them. ORRRRR AMD nerfs the mining of all vega cards except a certain skew with a mining unlocked bios that is more expensive than consumer vega.
im curious how You can push vega 64 forward in OC by Your way mod's to hit 1080 or TI or better score/fps in games/benchmarks - is it possible to ? Wuld You even try it ?
You may be able to use the Linux FW push mechanism and still get into windows by using virtualization and passing the entire gpu into a virtual machine with gpu passthough and IOMMU. The GPU passthrough should work fine on recent Linux kernels, with Ryzen cpus and some Intel chips, and it should not have a significant performance penalty. th-cam.com/video/aLeWg11ZBn0/w-d-xo.html
Interesting the Linux bios unlock. My RX Vega 64 in Mac OS High Sierra in open CL app Luxmark ball lists 1630MHz it is a single fan reference model at 1546MHz boost. The Mac Drivers must be setting the clock speed and getting past the bios lock as well.
If the coprocessor that checks the bios is separate from the GPU die, would it be possible to completely remove said coprocessor and jump the contacts to bypass the BIOS check?
First off, it might be a BGA chip, making it hard and dangerous to remove. Also, the coprocessor might talk to the GPU with some proprietary communication protocol. Inter-chip communication with only one high or low is rare these days.
Hi, I get that you managed to alter the power limit somehow (didn't get how, I am noob with poor english). Is it possible to change memory timings as well?
I know I'm a bit late on this but I just recently got a Vega 56 red devil edition from power color what is a safe amount to set the memory voltage? I'm only getting 850 MHz at 1050mv and I don't wanna fry my card, could I push 1100 or 1150mv and not fry it. By the way it's hynix memory if that helps
Calvin Miner vega has no bios modding, is hard to overclock, it is not clear if AMD wants users to overclock, and AMD tries to do well but its hard. No video has more money. Buildzoid wants Vega to do well
is it true that there is some sort of a driver coming soon that will really increase the performance of rx vega cards in gaming? an asus 1080ti poseidon is 850$ or even gigabyte GTX 1080 Ti Waterforce is also 850$ a rx vega 64 is 650$(with tax) and a waterblock for it would be like 160$ all in all same price as the 1080TI . i waited so long sins r9 390 for vega , own a freesync monitor. now im in a possition of donno what to buy :)
Just because it happened before doesn't mean it will always happen. Architectures can change things. However, given what we know about the number of features disabled or not optimized on Vega RX, including HBCC, DSBR, the new primitive shader engine, and more. Google for "Some insights from the Vega whitepaper" on the AMD subreddit for more details.
thats a 500$ monitor... vega looks like what i need, but again would vega 64 ever perform any better then a 1080Ti on thi monitor, considering price is the same for both cards... i really want Amd , i really do :)but understand me right , buying vega 64 that is same price with 1080ti ( with watterblock),and performing 30% less,makes me kinda of an AMD fan boy )and im not ... im more into a reasonable sort of things. Now, would that driver that people roumor , bring rx vega 64 to a 1080ti level in future? if it is, then yea... i gain a plus from my freesync monitor, but as iit for now vega 64 with a freesinc monitor wont beat 1080ti on a freesync monitor... heh many thoughts. but thx for input!
I run 64 liquid bios on my 56 but the card won't boot unless you mod the powerplay table to not overload the card in the lower P states. and my card I have to keep just under 1700mhz core 1000mhz hbm2. I can get increased stability with more wattage but the card puts out so much heat it even overwhelms my custom loop after about 10-15 mintues if I go too high. if anyone has a powerplay table that can get my past 1800mhz please post it.
So can you pencilmod the memory VRM on Vega 56 to get it to put out 1.35V or is it too sophisticated for that? BTW, I heard that appearently the BIOS modding is locked because of Secure Boot requirements. Which is bullshit. I hope there's a way to bypass this on Windows.
MrFancypants4 I pencilmod most of the cards I have ;) I pencilmodded the memory VRM on my RX 480 to get it to run tighter timings. If I have to RMA it for some reason I can just wipe the graphite and no one's the wiser.
So if I get it right the hbm2 dress much less power than gddr5(X) ram. That would mean the AMD chip is the main power delinquent whilst Nvidias Chips draws much less?
yep that's correct. AMD's GPU core is so power hungry that they are using HBM2 to stay within the 300W power budget that is somewhat acceptable for high end GPUs. With GDDR5X or GDDR5 you would need more power for the memory chips and a lot more power for the memory controller
what would be nice is if AMD could release a BIOS signing utility for enthusiasts so they can sign their own BIOSes for their own cards (and their own cards only). this would enable those who know what they're doing (or like to pretend) to tell the card their BIOS is legit, but keep malware out of it. as per another poster, modifying one byte of a signed bios will invalidate the hash on it. it would not surprise me if different BIOSes are flushable between cards, so long as they are signed. i'd be trying cards released by the same partner OEM though, as the keys for signing may be either from AMD or embedded into the cards by the third party OEM. i get that you're upset (and i understand why), but security for the mass market on this stuff is far more important. and it doesn't necessarily need to be completely turned off to enable modification, you just need some way of getting the keys updated in the card for an enthusiast user.
7:51 Holy information overload, my brain can't cope with a load of random numbers being thrown at it in quick succession. Mind putting all the data somewhere to view it visually?
Apparently Microsoft also had a thing or two to say regarding bios modding and secure booting, if we go off of Steve's story. It sucks balls, I'll give you that.
How bad then that amd decided to lock bios mod. Polaris hit the nail with timing modding as the community has gained a lot of knowledge in a very short time. A downclocked Vega with modded timings should be a beast at power/performance ratio and a great competitor to Nvidia...
Do you know if it's possible to mod the vega cards into the radeon pro variant? like some cards where you can change some resistors on the PCB to make them report as the pro version?
Yeah given AMDs open source approach to things like Freesync and developer SDKs it's disappointing to see a lack of full customization options on the BIOS on Vega. It's like they always get 80% of the way there and can't follow through. Like what was up with the monitor color calibration controls going missing in Wattman, it's why I have a 1080Ti. Much as I dislike nVidia as a business, AMD just hasn't really had had a winner since the HD6870 and Athlon 64 products.
What do you mean when you say "Its ALMOST as bad as trying to Overclock an Nvidia GPU"? Because not only has my 980 Ti been MASSIVELY overclocked on air alone, but I could take it a step farther still, and load a MODDED BIOS that would allow me to go from 1505 to almost 1600 MHZ due to no restrictions save the 91 C throttle limit. But at 1505 MHZ 8 GHZ VRAM (+220 MHZ core over stock operating boost, + 1 GHZ effective VRAM clock over stock) - I feel no huge need for more performance still at this point, and I am already near/at the point of diminishing returns. So are you talking about Pascal alone? Even then, they OC and scale nearly linearly to the amount of operating frequency added, but have a hard limit around 2.1 GHZ, so are you talking about mostly HARDCORE Overclocking- as opposed to gaming focused Overclocking? Because even then, Vega seems EVERY BIT as Limited as Pascal when it comes to Hardcore OC - from what I know anyway...
Oh dam I forgot to....
FIRST!
still made it good job me.
The Pascal Problem 2.0!
Hey, care to post the link for the "after boot Linux kernal mod" and the "windows power registry mod"? Please? Thanks! ^_^
Actually Hardcore Overclocking i have a question about a GPU: what do you think about the MSI armor 1080ti for water-cooling?
that's a good card for watercooling since it has the same VRM as the MSI gaming X cars....... just got a really shitty cooler that you dont care about if your going to put a watercooler on it
The hair! Nvidia must of turned on hair works..
Or AMD turned on TressFX ...
LightswrathUltimatum
👨😱
must HAVE. please for gods sake
You mean "pure hair".
lol. AHOC, Actually Hair Overclocking. B)
WHERE'S THE MESSY HAIR I DEMAND A REFUND
Digger ich guck all seine videos lol
Steve (GN) is left all alone with no one to talk to about the best shampoo.
Please flash the old Hair back!
Who is this guy? Where is buildzoid!?
nVidia hairworks has been disabled. Can confirm that it is probably still the same person.
enabled*
Buildzoid - the only techtuber who talks about 300 Amps as being 'only 300 amps'...awesome content once more!
Still @360p :D
Already waited for your NEW analysis like really, really HARD :P
Nice try with that HairWorks setting. Should try Ultra after High as next setting
nice hair better than before. and wow you did lots of testing on that card. I think you are a lot better than most other techtubers because knowledge and enthusiasm.
I admire your talent and love your Vedio information, I believe Vega will be good when everything is worked out it's a powerful Vedio card and technology. I can't wait when you play with it your way.
can someone explain why i always get no sounds from buildzoids vids? other video/channels are fine its just his. i have to disable my Realtek audio and enable my monitors audio device to hear anything. playback devices shows that there should be sound, but nothing comes out. nothing is muted.
Had this problem awhile back with another channel. It kind of sorted itself out overtime. No idea why though.
16:56 Won't AIB manufacturers be able to play with the power tables and release cards that do allow for higher HBM overclocks on Vega56?
Maybe but I wouldn't get my hopes up.
Hairworks is on.
Isn't there a HW mod that could be done on the 56 raise HBM voltage, like a voltage divider in the feedback loop, or something along those lines?
great video bro, how can i unlock my hp z600 workstation bios for overclocking my x5650 processor?
Yip Vega has it's own PSP (platform security processor) like ryzen essentially. Checksummed and Signed Flash ROM code.
Vega really is bandwidth starved.... heard a lot of people talk about it on OCN. Question for you buildzoid. Considering buying a reference 1080ti, how is the VRM compared to some of the other 1080Ti's? Aside from the binning I could push a reference 1080ti on water to about the same place I could push an AiB one, right?
The ref 1080Ti really isn't too bad. For daily use it should be perfectly fine.
ZornGodOfAll Vega just like other AMD cards aren't bandwidth starved, unless what you mean is their efficiency lagging behind Nvidia which is all due to Memory Compression Nvidia uses hence why they always have smaller buswidth and bandwidth total. AMD cards are capable of using all of their bandwidth, they just don't if they don't need to, I remember seeing these articles too and thought of just underclocking my VRAM to said amount of maximum of bandwidth my 290X could pull and to my surprise performance was fine until games that pushed the GPU bandwith more actually seen gains of 20FPS+, the most apparent was DOOM 2016.
The headroom is actually very helpful with softwares that uses h264 as well.
Although if Im wrong it would be need to have an explaination to what I got to witness.
Quick question. Is there a 1080Ti with reference size/dimensions that has the best cooling? Much better than founder edition at least? What card do you recommend? Thanks.
Honestly I cant say. Seems like all the heatsinks are crap and fans aren't much better. I can't keep my 1060 FTW under 70C regardless of what I do when its stressed, that's why I want to put a 1080Ti under an AIO, it'll keep temps down and the clocks up.
ZornGodOfAll lmao nice my 480 around 1450mhz its not above 60c
love the intelligent and informative video thank you
Will AIB custom cards feature the security chip preventing Bios flashing?
I've been waiting for this.
well vega is for super computing
next gaming usefull thing will be 7nm navi with modular ryzen-like design
Could you do a pcb breakdown of the ASUS ARES II? I think that would be great to hear your thoughts on it.
there is no level to the bios tamper you touch the image change one bit it will fail the hash check and won't boot
I'm sure they'll be a way to bypass the security on the bios sooner or later
Love this dude and his content
Would you recommend the 64 air and strap a full block on it?
I am planning to watercool my RX Vega 64. Which voltages and clocks on the core and the HBM2 would you recommend for a dayly use?
Do you have a link to the info re. powerplay tweaking on Linux? Tried googling it to no avail.
great now we have to deal with hair at stock clock speeds(notes taken about the memory btw)
Excellent Buildzoid,, TY
Novideo question: Is it possible that my 1050TI doesn't use shunts to measure the board power?
thanks buildzoid, another awesome video!
do you think boardpartner cards will actually pick up some of the issues like hbm voltage?
Could the security coprocessor be SHA256 hashing the bios or a portion of it on boot and comparing it to a stored value? Surely it would have to be something less secure than that or AMD could never release an update if it has to. I guess it could just be signed, with them including a hash key buried in the bios that would sign it to 12 0s or something. Lord knows they have the GPU power to mine a key out like that.
miners still buy cards, lowkey, amd loves them because they are guaranteed sales, rumors have them increasing prices of vega since it will sell out anyways, the only way to get a good deal is with the packs which are super smart since amd knows that miners wont use the perks and will just eat the premium meaning more$$$ for them. ORRRRR AMD nerfs the mining of all vega cards except a certain skew with a mining unlocked bios that is more expensive than consumer vega.
im curious how You can push vega 64 forward in OC by Your way mod's to hit 1080 or TI or better score/fps in games/benchmarks - is it possible to ? Wuld You even try it ?
You may be able to use the Linux FW push mechanism and still get into windows by using virtualization and passing the entire gpu into a virtual machine with gpu passthough and IOMMU. The GPU passthrough should work fine on recent Linux kernels, with Ryzen cpus and some Intel chips, and it should not have a significant performance penalty. th-cam.com/video/aLeWg11ZBn0/w-d-xo.html
Needless to say, this is purely theoretical, and would probably involve at least a week of work to get it setup, if it is at all possible.
TheBackyardChemist this sounds pretty neat!
Interesting the Linux bios unlock. My RX Vega 64 in Mac OS High Sierra in open CL app Luxmark ball lists 1630MHz it is a single fan reference model at 1546MHz boost. The Mac Drivers must be setting the clock speed and getting past the bios lock as well.
The clocks are not locked, only the maximum power and maximum voltages.
Less hair -> less surface area -> less cooling potential
With LN2 is less of an issue, of course :D
They should ship the chips with different voltages and names. That saves a lot of energy or gets clock up
Buildzoid, how bad I am at silicon lottery if my R9 280X is crashing when I undervolt the darn thing by 0.02v? XD
If the coprocessor that checks the bios is separate from the GPU die, would it be possible to completely remove said coprocessor and jump the contacts to bypass the BIOS check?
First off, it might be a BGA chip, making it hard and dangerous to remove. Also, the coprocessor might talk to the GPU with some proprietary communication protocol. Inter-chip communication with only one high or low is rare these days.
Hi, I get that you managed to alter the power limit somehow (didn't get how, I am noob with poor english). Is it possible to change memory timings as well?
I know I'm a bit late on this but I just recently got a Vega 56 red devil edition from power color what is a safe amount to set the memory voltage? I'm only getting 850 MHz at 1050mv and I don't wanna fry my card, could I push 1100 or 1150mv and not fry it. By the way it's hynix memory if that helps
I have VEGA 64 liquid custom. Where is download this bios mod?
What's the TLDW?
Calvin Miner vega has no bios modding, is hard to overclock, it is not clear if AMD wants users to overclock, and AMD tries to do well but its hard. No video has more money. Buildzoid wants Vega to do well
is it true that there is some sort of a driver coming soon that will really increase the performance of rx vega cards in gaming?
an asus 1080ti poseidon is 850$ or even gigabyte GTX 1080 Ti Waterforce is also 850$
a rx vega 64 is 650$(with tax) and a waterblock for it would be like 160$ all in all same price as the 1080TI .
i waited so long sins r9 390 for vega , own a freesync monitor. now im in a possition of donno what to buy :)
MaKeN since you have a freesync monitor, i would take the vega card. BUT- If you only had a normal monitor then i would take the 1080ti.
Yes rx vega will become faster, just like when rx 480 was slower than a 6gb 1060, now a 480 is faster for a majority of games
Just because it happened before doesn't mean it will always happen. Architectures can change things. However, given what we know about the number of features disabled or not optimized on Vega RX, including HBCC, DSBR, the new primitive shader engine, and more.
Google for "Some insights from the Vega whitepaper" on the AMD subreddit for more details.
thats a 500$ monitor... vega looks like what i need, but again would vega 64 ever perform any better then a 1080Ti on thi monitor, considering price is the same for both cards...
i really want Amd , i really do :)but understand me right , buying vega 64 that is same price with 1080ti ( with watterblock),and performing 30% less,makes me kinda of an AMD fan boy )and im not ... im more into a reasonable sort of things. Now, would that driver that people roumor , bring rx vega 64 to a 1080ti level in future? if it is, then yea... i gain a plus from my freesync monitor, but as iit for now vega 64 with a freesinc monitor wont beat 1080ti on a freesync monitor...
heh many thoughts.
but thx for input!
MaKeN at this point i would recommend the 1080ti
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Why no unlocked bios? Probably for the OEMS, e.g. asus and so on.
How is asus going to sell a vega 64 OC at a markup if AMD gives it away free?
I run 64 liquid bios on my 56 but the card won't boot unless you mod the powerplay table to not overload the card in the lower P states. and my card I have to keep just under 1700mhz core 1000mhz hbm2. I can get increased stability with more wattage but the card puts out so much heat it even overwhelms my custom loop after about 10-15 mintues if I go too high. if anyone has a powerplay table that can get my past 1800mhz please post it.
Anyone got the link to the OCUK bios shim thread?
pls do a hair tutorial
so AIB Vega will have better cooling and better bios allowing higher power limit?
cooling yes. BIOS I have no idea.
So can you pencilmod the memory VRM on Vega 56 to get it to put out 1.35V or is it too sophisticated for that?
BTW, I heard that appearently the BIOS modding is locked because of Secure Boot requirements. Which is bullshit. I hope there's a way to bypass this on Windows.
DrathVader Haha, everything comes full circle, I remember wanting to pencil mod my X1900XTX
MrFancypants4
I pencilmod most of the cards I have ;) I pencilmodded the memory VRM on my RX 480 to get it to run tighter timings. If I have to RMA it for some reason I can just wipe the graphite and no one's the wiser.
Dude, the hair style is cool! If you had a guitar you'd be rocking! But you do the same with GPU's. Thanks for the video!
So if I get it right the hbm2 dress much less power than gddr5(X) ram. That would mean the AMD chip is the main power delinquent whilst Nvidias Chips draws much less?
yep that's correct. AMD's GPU core is so power hungry that they are using HBM2 to stay within the 300W power budget that is somewhat acceptable for high end GPUs. With GDDR5X or GDDR5 you would need more power for the memory chips and a lot more power for the memory controller
Question why do you think Vega is so power-hungry versus the Hawaii chip that's lower
Well this looks like we're gonna see whose aib cooler solution is good and can handle Vegas heat
HBM OC free performance? less than 20w?
I have some sort of reaction in my pants.
Anyone know the junctional temp. Of hbm2?
Your Hair does up-to 400 , 500 watts like the Vega im guessing .
Damn, I'm not early....
I had some great hair jokes
what would be nice is if AMD could release a BIOS signing utility for enthusiasts so they can sign their own BIOSes for their own cards (and their own cards only). this would enable those who know what they're doing (or like to pretend) to tell the card their BIOS is legit, but keep malware out of it.
as per another poster, modifying one byte of a signed bios will invalidate the hash on it. it would not surprise me if different BIOSes are flushable between cards, so long as they are signed. i'd be trying cards released by the same partner OEM though, as the keys for signing may be either from AMD or embedded into the cards by the third party OEM.
i get that you're upset (and i understand why), but security for the mass market on this stuff is far more important. and it doesn't necessarily need to be completely turned off to enable modification, you just need some way of getting the keys updated in the card for an enthusiast user.
where's the updated atiflash
"that's about it ..." with 8 minutes left in the video :)
Buildzoid undervolted his age with that new hair.
7:51 Holy information overload, my brain can't cope with a load of random numbers being thrown at it in quick succession. Mind putting all the data somewhere to view it visually?
Did you just overclock your hair?
Omg your glorious tonsure has removed... :D
Apparently Microsoft also had a thing or two to say regarding bios modding and secure booting, if we go off of Steve's story. It sucks balls, I'll give you that.
LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!!!
all your videos dont have sound on google chrome but on firefox it does
then use firefox.
why no sounds
I am gonna get into my deep freezer, fuck waiting for Navi just have my mom unplug it when it comes out ... I don't wanna go through this shit again
But bios mods will be Vega 2 like the rx580 is a bios mod rx480
Has anyone checked to see if Vega HBM clocks in steps like Fiji?
I did a quick test for it. Didn't really see anything like it.
That hair is a stable overclock. Not compliant to the channel's moniker.
Does Vega benefit from infinity fabric
No
You know you make everyone jealous of your genius..
My God. The hair?! It...it looks good?!?!
Who are you and what have you done with buildzoid
in 2017 with all the modders out there , we cannot find a way to bypass this stupid BIOS restriction :(
who is this person with the under-powered hair ... I dont like strangers
Hair is the only architecture where the cut-down version has reduced overclocking potential
Lol @when wattman tried to OC at boot. Now it resets eveything given a butterfly kiss.
How bad then that amd decided to lock bios mod.
Polaris hit the nail with timing modding as the community has gained a lot of knowledge in a very short time.
A downclocked Vega with modded timings should be a beast at power/performance ratio and a great competitor to Nvidia...
Do you know if it's possible to mod the vega cards into the radeon pro variant? like some cards where you can change some resistors on the PCB to make them report as the pro version?
Your haircut reminds me of playing Final Fantasy XIII on my AMD GPU...
I'm sure you meant 300 watt, not amp, cause I am positive you are not pushing 3600 watts through that little piece of silicon.
1.2v not 12v maybe(?)
Oh why do they all have to be so leaky ;(
RIP in peace hair.
I guess Steve won. 8(
Yeah given AMDs open source approach to things like Freesync and developer SDKs it's disappointing to see a lack of full customization options on the BIOS on Vega. It's like they always get 80% of the way there and can't follow through. Like what was up with the monitor color calibration controls going missing in Wattman, it's why I have a 1080Ti. Much as I dislike nVidia as a business, AMD just hasn't really had had a winner since the HD6870 and Athlon 64 products.
Jetpil0t the 7970 gigahertz edition was the most powerful card in games and compute it's been awhile since then tho
Oh my goshness! I wasn't expecting a 12 year old! I should know better
Did you get electrocuted?
When you literally roll out of bed to hard core OC!!
I prefer the old hair
What do you mean when you say "Its ALMOST as bad as trying to Overclock an Nvidia GPU"? Because not only has my 980 Ti been MASSIVELY overclocked on air alone, but I could take it a step farther still, and load a MODDED BIOS that would allow me to go from 1505 to almost 1600 MHZ due to no restrictions save the 91 C throttle limit. But at 1505 MHZ 8 GHZ VRAM (+220 MHZ core over stock operating boost, + 1 GHZ effective VRAM clock over stock) - I feel no huge need for more performance still at this point, and I am already near/at the point of diminishing returns.
So are you talking about Pascal alone? Even then, they OC and scale nearly linearly to the amount of operating frequency added, but have a hard limit around 2.1 GHZ, so are you talking about mostly HARDCORE Overclocking- as opposed to gaming focused Overclocking?
Because even then, Vega seems EVERY BIT as Limited as Pascal when it comes to Hardcore OC - from what I know anyway...
try a ace ventura haircut!
So this is the part where I ask if there is a power supply capable of handling 4 of these things in crossfire. I don't care about high power draw
you need to hook up several PSUs
Actually Hardcore Overclocking damn so I'm guessing two 1000 watt power supplies or should I look higher?
There is a 2000 w psu it should do the trick
Walidooo Gaming who makes said 2kw psu?
hmm Vega sounds like my 970, no overclocks if you cant keep it bellow 60C lol
You should've gotten your haircut done all the way. Or is your barber BIOS locked?
u look awsome on ur new hair cut dude 👍 *miss ur mess hair soon 😂👻